FREE Trials / 30 min previews - GoFuckYourself.com

Matt Frackas · 06-12-2003, 01:10 PM

I'm starting some new sites.
Does anyone have experience with those FREE TRIAL billing options?

For example: "Free 30 min preview"

Thanks

Matt

Airwood Media
http://www.airwoodmedia.com

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 06-12-2003, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt Frackas
I'm starting some new sites.
Does anyone have experience with those FREE TRIAL billing options?

For example: "Free 30 min preview"

Thanks

Matt

Airwood Media
http://www.airwoodmedia.com

I quit doing trials.. it only takes them about 30 minutes to download all the content and leave....I found so very few would turn it into a monthly membership. trials are nice for the freeloaders.

detoxed · 06-12-2003, 01:15 PM

I hate them. I had 4 joins to a sponsor like this, all 4 were declined after the 30 minutes was up. People with $1 on a debit card can join and get 30 minutes free (they only need 5 minutes to do what they gotta do)
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Unless you can "authorize" them for $39.95 or whatever before they get access, and just not charge them when they cancel, i wont promote them.

AOLGuy · 06-12-2003, 01:18 PM

with 30 minutes, they're gonna cancel ASAP.

with 3 days, they might forget to cancel

with 7 days, there's a good chance they'll forget to cancel

with a month, well, welcome to where the money is.

Darren · 06-12-2003, 01:22 PM

trials are good if u have a quality site.

obviously ur site was shit.

AOLGuy · 06-12-2003, 01:24 PM

as a consumer, even if the site is quality... that just means I will buy a trial again at some point if it is offered.

I can get by jacking off to a quality site for 3 days every other month or so for only $7.95.

AaronM · 06-12-2003, 01:25 PM

So far today:

60% from free 30 minute trial to paid trial and 80% of yesterdays paid trials have gone to full memberships. These are the actual stats from Epoch as of this very minute for tonifreeland.com

My point is that it depends on the site. We have something very different to offer our members in that site but some of our other sites do not do as well with the same set up.

It's common sense....If you have a run of the mill everyday kinda site then I would not suggest a trial....BUT...If you have 100% exclusive content and other bonus content then you might wanna give it a shot.

VideoVoyeur · 06-12-2003, 01:26 PM

If you have enough content to keep them then they'd definatley stay, regardless of 30 minutes or not.

I think 30 minutes is a good idea, too many times I have joined an adult site (Yes im a perv) just to find less then 100 images and maybe 1 or 2 movies.

Pack it with content, even the free content you find on the web that are free plugins, videorooms, stuff like that.

ANY webmaster could easily double the size of their site with the number of free use adult games, video rooms and images that can be found.

Darren · 06-12-2003, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VideoVoyeur
If you have enough content to keep them then they'd definatley stay, regardless of 30 minutes or not.

I think 30 minutes is a good idea, too many times I have joined an adult site (Yes im a perv) just to find less then 100 images and maybe 1 or 2 movies.

Pack it with content, even the free content you find on the web that are free plugins, videorooms, stuff like that.

ANY webmaster could easily double the size of their site with the number of free use adult games, video rooms and images that can be found.

quick question do u make money?

Packing ur site with all types of shit is USELESS and actually turns the surfer off, they have seen the same 2,000 plugins again and again they want somethind different something unique,

If u have niche site and give them top quality stuff they want then they will stay just like that FTV site.

If ur thinking plugins <spam www.uniqueplugins.com spam>

AaronM · 06-12-2003, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darren

quick question do u make money?

Packing ur site with all types of shit is USELESS and actually turns the surfer off, they have seen the same 2,000 plugins again and again they want somethind different something unique,

If u have niche site and give them top quality stuff they want then they will stay just like that FTV site.

If ur thinking plugins <spam www.uniqueplugins.com spam>

VideoVoyeur · 06-12-2003, 01:33 PM

Yes actually I do make money, heh see the screenshot of my stats for one month>?

Yes alot of surfers will have seen the same plugins over and over that is true, but you MUST assume that every surfer that comes to your site WANTS to see porn and HASNT seen those plugins yet.

And some like me, even if Ive seen a plugin before, might like to jerk off again to it.

Yes content is King, but without the filler content, you wont even keep a member long enough to make money.

What Im saying is, you spend alot of money you buy Matrix content, you open a site, you only have a few thousand images but your gonna give it a go.

Your member comes in and sees your images, maybe stays for a day or 2.

Now, Billy Bob on the other hand has NO Matrix content, ya know, he only has about 50k images that are all free image plugins hosted somewhere else, and video rooms., and maybe a few movies.

Who would keep a member longer...

AaronM · 06-12-2003, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VideoVoyeur
Yes actually I do make money, heh see the screenshot of my stats for one month>?

Yes alot of surfers will have seen the same plugins over and over that is true, but you MUST assume that every surfer that comes to your site WANTS to see porn and HASNT seen those plugins yet.

And some like me, even if Ive seen a plugin before, might like to jerk off again to it.

Yes content is King, but without the filler content, you wont even keep a member long enough to make money.

What Im saying is, you spend alot of money you buy Matrix content, you open a site, you only have a few thousand images but your gonna give it a go.

Your member comes in and sees your images, maybe stays for a day or 2.

Now, Billy Bob on the other hand has NO Matrix content, ya know, he only has about 50k images that are all free image plugins hosted somewhere else, and video rooms., and maybe a few movies.

Who would keep a member longer...

Who cares? They are both idiots.

VideoVoyeur · 06-12-2003, 01:36 PM

Not everyone has the money to start with a mega site, most are actually sites as I described above...

Darren · 06-12-2003, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM

Who cares? They are both idiots.

Darren · 06-12-2003, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VideoVoyeur
Not everyone has the money to start with a mega site, most are actually sites as I described above...

then do not start a MEGA site... use ur head and start a niche site, for starters conversions will be better and retention will be even better.

AaronM · 06-12-2003, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VideoVoyeur
Not everyone has the money to start with a mega site, most are actually sites as I described above...

Yeah? And a lot of them also use stolen content too. Does that also make them sucessful?

If you can not afford to get into the biz with your own paysites then stick to the TGP's or stay in mainstream altogether. There are enough shitty sites out there already.

If you think that you are gonna make more money because your shitty site has more shitty, oversaturated content than the other guys shitty site then you can probably make more money by flipping burgers.

MetaMan · 06-12-2003, 01:47 PM

im not a trial fan, to many freeloaders but i guess it depends where ur traffic is flowing from.

06-12-2003, 01:10 PM	#1
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06-12-2003, 01:22 PM	#5
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06-12-2003, 01:15 PM	#3
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	I hate them. I had 4 joins to a sponsor like this, all 4 were declined after the 30 minutes was up. People with $1 on a debit card can join and get 30 minutes free (they only need 5 minutes to do what they gotta do) <br><br> Unless you can "authorize" them for $39.95 or whatever before they get access, and just not charge them when they cancel, i wont promote them.

06-12-2003, 01:18 PM	#4
AOLGuy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,261	with 30 minutes, they're gonna cancel ASAP. with 3 days, they might forget to cancel with 7 days, there's a good chance they'll forget to cancel with a month, well, welcome to where the money is.

06-12-2003, 01:24 PM	#6
AOLGuy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,261	as a consumer, even if the site is quality... that just means I will buy a trial again at some point if it is offered. I can get by jacking off to a quality site for 3 days every other month or so for only $7.95.

06-12-2003, 01:25 PM	#7
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	So far today: 60% from free 30 minute trial to paid trial and 80% of yesterdays paid trials have gone to full memberships. These are the actual stats from Epoch as of this very minute for tonifreeland.com My point is that it depends on the site. We have something very different to offer our members in that site but some of our other sites do not do as well with the same set up. It's common sense....If you have a run of the mill everyday kinda site then I would not suggest a trial....BUT...If you have 100% exclusive content and other bonus content then you might wanna give it a shot.

06-12-2003, 01:26 PM	#8
VideoVoyeur So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 2,181	If you have enough content to keep them then they'd definatley stay, regardless of 30 minutes or not. I think 30 minutes is a good idea, too many times I have joined an adult site (Yes im a perv) just to find less then 100 images and maybe 1 or 2 movies. Pack it with content, even the free content you find on the web that are free plugins, videorooms, stuff like that. ANY webmaster could easily double the size of their site with the number of free use adult games, video rooms and images that can be found.

06-12-2003, 01:33 PM	#11
VideoVoyeur So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 2,181	Yes actually I do make money, heh see the screenshot of my stats for one month>? Yes alot of surfers will have seen the same plugins over and over that is true, but you MUST assume that every surfer that comes to your site WANTS to see porn and HASNT seen those plugins yet. And some like me, even if Ive seen a plugin before, might like to jerk off again to it. Yes content is King, but without the filler content, you wont even keep a member long enough to make money. What Im saying is, you spend alot of money you buy Matrix content, you open a site, you only have a few thousand images but your gonna give it a go. Your member comes in and sees your images, maybe stays for a day or 2. Now, Billy Bob on the other hand has NO Matrix content, ya know, he only has about 50k images that are all free image plugins hosted somewhere else, and video rooms., and maybe a few movies. Who would keep a member longer...

06-12-2003, 01:36 PM	#13
VideoVoyeur So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 2,181	Not everyone has the money to start with a mega site, most are actually sites as I described above...

06-12-2003, 01:47 PM	#17
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	im not a trial fan, to many freeloaders but i guess it depends where ur traffic is flowing from.