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Old 06-11-2003, 09:51 AM   #1
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Why won't the Israel leave the Palestinians alone?

Have you seen the news ?


JERUSALEM (CNN) -- A suicide bomber set off a blast Wednesday that killed 16 people and injured more than 60 others, eight of them seriously, Jerusalem police and medics said.

Within minutes, Israeli helicopter gunships attacked three targets in Gaza, Palestinian security sources said. Two Hamas militants -- Masoud Al-Tito and Suhel Abu Hamad -- were killed in the attacks, the sources said.

The attacks come as the cycle of violence between Israelis and Palestinians threatens to derail the U.S.-backed "road map" to peace.

The suicide bomb detonated on Bus 14 as it drove down Jaffa Road, one of the main routes into Jerusalem city center, shortly after 5:30 p.m. local time (10:30 a.m. ET). The bomber died in the blast.

Israeli police spokesman Gil Kleiman said: "A suicide bomber on the bus blew himself or herself up. We have wounded and dead."

A fleet of 45 ambulances rushed to the scene of the terror bombing. "The damage is really huge," said Avi Zohar of Magen David, the Israeli ambulance service.

Zohar said people were injured from screws, nails -- possibly a suitcase with explosives -- and parts of the bus.

In Gaza, Israeli helicopters were seen in the air firing on targets.


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Hopes for the peace process faltered Tuesday when an Israel helicopter strike targeted Hamas leader Abdel Aziz Rantissi, a move which drew criticism from the United States and the Palestinian Authority, and prompted threats of revenge from the militant Islamic group
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Why wont they leave Palestinians alone? Because they count on OUR tax dollars to support Isreal. If we stop supporting them, they would fall off the face of the earth in 6 months, not to mention, we would have world peace. Isreal is a bad seed on earth.
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Why wont they leave Palestinians alone? Because they count on OUR tax dollars to support Isreal. If we stop supporting them, they would fall off the face of the earth in 6 months, not to mention, we would have world peace. Isreal is a bad seed on earth.
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Why shouldn't they retaliate against shit like that?
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Sen. John Warner was just on CNN saying he wants to have US troops in Israel now.

Like we need to get in the middle of that fiasco.
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Hopes for the peace process faltered Tuesday when an Israel helicopter strike targeted Hamas leader Abdel Aziz Rantissi, a move which drew criticism from the United States and the Palestinian Authority, and prompted threats of revenge from the militant Islamic group
maybe that was their plan......

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Sen. John Warner was just on CNN saying he wants to have US troops in Israel now.
What for, they have the most powerful military in the M.e.,thanks to you know who,but he want U.s. troops blood to spill for them
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Why shouldn't they retaliate against shit like that?
because Israel is trying to drive the Palestinians away from their homes ? Whith tanks and bulldozers.
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Fuck Isreal, I hope that gov dies and burns in hell
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Look at Sharon's track record. That dude never wanted peace, it was absolutely clear long before he had any political clout.
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Israel will defend it's home land, people, etc at any cost. If homicide bombers come knocking they can expect a swift and harsh response from Israel.

That's how it should be...
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you mean the government of Israel i'm sure the average Israeli wants peace,both sides are being used as pawns becase,"someone" wants the Greater Israel
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Israel will defend it's home land, people, etc at any cost. If homicide bombers come knocking they can expect a swift and harsh response from Israel.

That's how it should be...
LOL, if every retaliation brings another suicide bombing (as you know it does) where the fuck does that get anyone?
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LOL, if every retaliation brings another suicide bombing (as you know it does) where the fuck does that get anyone?
more welfare from the U.s.
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you mean the government of Israel i'm sure the average Israeli wants peace,both sides are being used as pawns becase,"someone" wants the Greater Israel
Ugh, if the two Israelis living in the apartment beneath me are in any way average, I'll back the palestinians all the way.
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Every nation has a right to defend itself. If Israel attacked Via terror or war then it should strike back Quick and with 10 Times the amount of force that it was attacked with.

The Arabs will never allow peace. How can there be peace with one group has in there constitution the words " Destruction of Israel"


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Every nation has a right to defend itself. If Israel attacked Via terror or war then it should strike back Quick and with 10 Times the amount of force that it was attacked with.

The Arabs will never allow peace. How can there be peace with one group has in there constitution the words " Destruction of Israel"


Think before you speak my friend.
The Israelis are just smarter...they don't say "Destruction of Palestine"
Two sides of the same coin. They deserve every suicide bomber they get.
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They deserve every suicide bomber they get.
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Ugh, if the two Israelis living in the apartment beneath me are in any way average, I'll back the palestinians all the way.
my fault,i was reffering to
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Fuck Isreal, I hope that gov dies and burns in hell
i didn't fully read,i though it said Fuck Israel in general,but some Jews I've spoken to feel Israel shouldn't exisit until the Messiah comes back,but that's a whole nother story,,,,
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Every nation has a right to defend itself. If Israel attacked Via terror or war then it should strike back Quick and with 10 Times the amount of force that it was attacked with.

The Arabs will never allow peace. How can there be peace with one group has in there constitution the words " Destruction of Israel"


Think before you speak my friend.

Israel is taking Palestinian lands and is destroying their houses.
You think Palestinians gonna sit and watch ?
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The Israelis are just smarter...they don't say "Destruction of Palestine"
Two sides of the same coin. They deserve every suicide bomber they get.

I would say you are very misinformed. or blinded by your own hatred for Israel no matter what they do.

your statement they "deserve ever bomber they get" answers that pretty quickly.

Do not forget that it was a couple of years ago that Israel allowed the Palestinians to police themselves and even gave them weapons which they then turned on the Israel.

Fact is Israel got fucked with they elected a moderate government, so they elected a more radical government.

sometimes you have to fight fire with fire. You attack me ill hit you back 10 fold. that's how it works.
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this issue is more on a Religious battle and not political.
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Good points, you hit the nail on the head

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Another misinformed fool.

Israel took that land while defending herself against 4+ Arab nations. Israel kicked there asses and took part of there countries, now there going to complain about losing there land.
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this issue is more on a Religious battle and not political.
In a way I would agree 100% with you. Muslims think all Non Muslims are infidels. How can you deal with people like that.
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Palestinians target women, children, and innocents.

They are like the vast majority of the other Arabs in the region. Murderous thugs who treat women like shit and hate everyone who has progressed past the stone age.
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Palestinians will never give up, they have nothing to loose. The current generation was born in the war era, and have no idea what peace is.
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sometimes you have to fight fire with fire. You attack me ill hit you back 10 fold. that's how it works.
So it's OK for the Israelis to think that way, and wrong for the Palestinians?
And no, I'm not misinformed or blinded by hatred
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Palestinians target women, children, and innocents.
And the Israelis don't?
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This week, Israel's Prime Minister Ariel Sharon told President Bush that he would start to dismantle some illegal Jewish settlements on the West Bank as part of an agreement with the new Palestinian Prime Minister.
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This was a story ion 60 minutes this last sunday.....Thought it was interesting

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And the Israelis don't?
Innocent people are always a casualty in any conflict.

If you can't determine which group targets as its main objective the killing of as many civilians as possible with each attack then you are a fool.
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Fuck Isreal, I hope that gov dies and burns in hell
I dont think Jews believe in a "hell".

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In a way I would agree 100% with you. Muslims think all Non Muslims are infidels. How can you deal with people like that.
I may be ignorant/misinformed, but is this not a battle to control the West Bank?
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no shit, I always thought that bastards shooting 10 year old kids with snipers are israelis.
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And the Israelis don't?

Go back in history my friend and you will see who started the aggression.
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Innocent people are always a casualty in any conflict.

If you can't determine which group targets as its main objective the killing of as many civilians as possible with each attack then you are a fool.
And you're an idiot
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no shit, I always thought that bastards shooting 10 year old kids with snipers are israelis.

Shoot 10 year old kids with snipers. Come on grow up. If you have to make up lies to make a point then you have already lost this battle and should give up.
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Good points, you hit the nail on the head

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Here's another classic post that is evidence of why I have absolutely no respect for anyone that supports Israel.

Eroticacash's points were hugely one-sided. But that's the problem with all jews that support israel, they only see one side, support one side, and can't see anything else.

Call it ignorance.

Call it stupidity.

It is what it is.

Need I remind anyone that Israel was founded on terrorism, by terrorists?

Need I remind anyone that the UN then helped found Israel.

That was the UN opinion that the jews then wanted the world to respect.

The same UN that israel now ignores on a daily basis.

In conclusion: Israel was founded and run by terrorists, and is supported by naive hypocrites.
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This is an amazing thread, Im really shocked by the amount of ignorant people in the world.

Ok so lets Kill the Jews, Black, Gays and all people not like you.

Once this is done who will you blame for your failure's???
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just another useless political post...
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This is an amazing thread, Im really shocked by the amount of ignorant people in the world.

Ok so lets Kill the Jews, Black, Gays and all people not like you.

Once this is done who will you blame for your failure's???
LOL
Now you're gonna call us racist for opposing zionism?
I don't say kill the jews, I say the zionists deserve every suicide bomber they get. There's a huge distinction.
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Here's another classic post that is evidence of why I have absolutely no respect for anyone that supports Israel.

Eroticacash's points were hugely one-sided. But that's the problem with all jews that support israel, they only see one side, support one side, and can't see anything else.

Call it ignorance.

Call it stupidity.

It is what it is.

Need I remind anyone that Israel was founded on terrorism, by terrorists?

Need I remind anyone that the UN then helped found Israel.

That was the UN opinion that the jews then wanted the world to respect.

The same UN that israel now ignores on a daily basis.

In conclusion: Israel was founded and run by terrorists, and is supported by naive hypocrites.

From what I get from your post. Your Non Respect is a badge of Honor


Israel was Founded on Terrorism. In a way you are correct, they fought the British for the land. One thing you forgot to mention is that this terror was aimed at British Troops. Do you not see a difference between targeting children and targeting troops.

In regards it the UN, well from what they have done over the past few years we all know there useless.
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LOL
Now you're gonna call us racist for opposing zionism?
I don't say kill the jews, I say the zionists deserve every suicide bomber they get. There's a huge distinction.

Your welcome to support your views. You can oppose zionism thats fine thats not racism. But dont hate other for Supporting it
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read the bible.
you might understand the real reasons behind this over 2000 year battle.
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Old 06-11-2003, 11:06 AM   #46
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Have you seen the news ?


JERUSALEM (CNN) -- A suicide bomber set off a blast Wednesday that killed 16 people and injured more than 60 others, eight of them seriously, Jerusalem police and medics said.

Within minutes, Israeli helicopter gunships attacked three targets in Gaza, Palestinian security sources said. Two Hamas militants -- Masoud Al-Tito and Suhel Abu Hamad -- were killed in the attacks, the sources said.

The attacks come as the cycle of violence between Israelis and Palestinians threatens to derail the U.S.-backed "road map" to peace.

The suicide bomb detonated on Bus 14 as it drove down Jaffa Road, one of the main routes into Jerusalem city center, shortly after 5:30 p.m. local time (10:30 a.m. ET). The bomber died in the blast.

Israeli police spokesman Gil Kleiman said: "A suicide bomber on the bus blew himself or herself up. We have wounded and dead."

A fleet of 45 ambulances rushed to the scene of the terror bombing. "The damage is really huge," said Avi Zohar of Magen David, the Israeli ambulance service.

Zohar said people were injured from screws, nails -- possibly a suitcase with explosives -- and parts of the bus.

In Gaza, Israeli helicopters were seen in the air firing on targets.


http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/...ast/index.html
Some pictures from today's terror attack in israel :







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Old 06-11-2003, 11:09 AM   #47
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This is my last post on this subject because I stand by my views 100%, and I know I am right.

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From what I get from your post. Your Non Respect is a badge of Honor
A badge of honor?

If being against ignorance and hypocrisy is a badge of honor, then yes.

People like you and sextoyking are both ignorant, narrow-minded, and hypocritical when it comes to issues of Israel.

I have no respect for that.

Israel is currently a state run by terrorists. Anyone who therefore supports Israel is therefore very misguided, and I care nothing about them nor their opinions.

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Israel was Founded on Terrorism. In a way you are correct, they fought the British for the land. One thing you forgot to mention is that this terror was aimed at British Troops. Do you not see a difference between targeting children and targeting troops.
Terrorism is terrorism. Is it not?

Are you saying it is right in any form?

Israel was founded by terrorists, and by flooding Israel with european jews, against the wishes (going from memory) of the US.

It is obviously one of the most stupid places to put a country.

The equivalent would be Africans starting a new town in the middle of an area filled with KKK members.

Even if was your 'ancestors land' (a ridiculous statement if I ever heard one - get over it, it was 2,000 years ago) it is obviously a very foolish thing to do.

So in that effect, Israel deserves everything it gets. It certainly didn't go into the situation blind.

And about terrorism again - British soldiers were killed, but also kidnapped and tortured.

Doesn't exactly sound like rules of war does it?

In other words - the founders of your 'country' are only very marginarlly better than suicide bombers.

If you think they're scum, you're really not much better are you?

No wonder the world looks down on Israel.

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In regards it the UN, well from what they have done over the past few years we all know there useless.
Beside the point.

If you want the world to respect the UN opinions on one occasion, and then you ignore UN opinions that you don't agree with, what is that if not outright hypocrisy?


The world looks down on Israel because of the way it is acting.

The world looks down on anyone that supports Israel with the way it is acting right now.

But the fact supporters of Israel can't see the bigger picture means this whole issue will go on for a very long time.

Which means many more jews will die.

But hey, you've only got yourselves to blame after all.
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Old 06-11-2003, 11:11 AM   #48
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Thats like saying why wont the US leave Osama alone
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Old 06-11-2003, 11:13 AM   #49
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Mule your stupid do you even know what zionism is?
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Old 06-11-2003, 11:29 AM   #50
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Well, I'm not a fan of either party, but anyone who think that the land being faught for is for Isreal... is a complete jack ass. Israelis dont belong there, well... they dont have a right to establish a fucking government there. Theyre breaking UN laws and unfortunetaly we, here, in the US of A support that crime.

Isreali leader Sharon is a fucking murderer, allways has been. Just because he is politically correct when referring to his crap. The palestinians can do the same, but instead, they say "Yep, we did it, now get the fuck out"

But people refuse to see Isreal tearing down houses WHILE PEOPLE ARE IN THEM, for no fucking reason. Yes, for no reason, this has been going on WAY before the Palestinians decided to use suicide bombing as their form of defense. They have nothing, theyre up against choppers and tanks.

Kill the Isreali Government, and 80% of the worlds problems will be solved isntantly.

Oh, and Isreal... Can we have Florida back please???
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