Hey Nysus

Are you back yet ?? Are you back yet ??

GFY is out of popcorn due to the overwhelming drama...we do have smores on hand though

Everything being what we spoke about?

I am just going to say what you are going to say.

You are going to say I tried to steal an idea of yours, that was mentioned in the car ride back along with many other ideas.

Dictionary.com's first listed meaning for steal is "To take (the property of another) without right or permission."

I asked you Sunday morning if you were going to be using the domain or if I could use it. Hence by asking for permission your assumption of me trying to steal was wrong. Nor was there any ever intention to steal or use the idea with a different domain because I was obviously asking permissions.

I had checked to see if the domain name was registered, it was not, so I decided to ask you. That is all. You ended up blowing up under false pretencies and then began to be the nastiest and most hurtful anyone has been to me in a long time.

Perhaps the initial message wasn't as specific as it should have been, so I am sorry for that.

If you have anything to say, please ICQ me as I don't really care to try to go into a war on GFY.

Or please give me a call, I wanted to call you in the first place. Message me for my number.

Cheers,
Matt

wow..we dont have to wait till tomorrow!

No, you don't, I don't like being wrongly accused of something because of a misunderstanding / misinterpretation.

Cheers,
Matt

was there a story with Nysus ?

I think he's the most polite GFY poster

you'll better talk on icq and solve this issue. You are both top guys and fighting for probably nonsense things is not good.

so what was the idea?

can you drag this out a bit? ive got to have a reason to stay up tonight

This is lame....really.

nysus is a nice guy.. I really don't see him doing shaddy stuff....

Try again sherlock, I think it has to do with something else. I guess we will just have to wait until DH gets back from Montreal to hear the full story.

I like my popcorn salty and butter flavoured

That's about as compressed as I can make it, but here's a shot:

I'm not sure where to start though I will say that he picked myself and Daymare (Jeff, my good local friend) went to Cybernet Expo together. Cameron who's a reviewer for some some sites and Raja his work partner were also with us.

I had asked if I could hitch a ride with DrinkingHard and Daymare and crash in their room as they were already planning to go and get a room with two double beds. They were both cool with it as it wouldn't of required anymore driving and I ended up pitching (and will soon pay for the rest of my share for the room bill).

So basically we all hung out and talked the whole way to Montreal, hung out a lot during Cybernet Expo and had a great time, each of us individually and as a group. This is where we all started to become friends and bond, and with friendship and bonding comes trust building.

We left Saturday afternoon as planned, and all agreed that another night of partying would have been too much, I agreed because I had only had 30 minutes of broken sleep Saturday night and was drinking until 9am.

Anyways. During the drive back there were lots of things talked about, among them being various ideas and brainstorms and thoughts of certain events and people floating around.

The next day after I was home, Sunday, I remembered a domain name that DrinkingHard had mentioned and thought it was a good idea. I looked up the domain to see if he had registered it, though he had not, so I thought maybe he was not serious/not going to do it, so I decided to ask him.

I asked him if I could register the domain, and instead of getting the "No, I'm going to use it man" or something similar, DrinkingHard exploded and then began to threaten and say very nasty and hurtful things towards me. Had been more specific and direct as to my intentions perhaps the misunderstanding / misinterpretation would not have come this far on DrinkingHard's part. I don't know.

That is the original misunderstanding that I was trying to steal the domain or idea from him. I have talked to a few people and I can somewhat see how my initial non-specific question of the domain could of been distorted with negative assumptions.

Here is the second part that I imagine MakingCoin is talking about:

As I mentioned above many things were mentioned in the car including opinions of certain people.

DrinkingHard had begun to talk about Jason, the owner of vidsvidsvids.com who he had talked to at the conference the night before, saying how he mocked him with everything he said and that he was full of himself, egotistical, and hoped that he would fail with all of his sites, etc.. I really don't remember specifics of what he said, DrinkingHard's impressions were wrong about him.

Yes, that was also told in the car ride back, and in confidence, and yes I told Jason what DrinkingHard had said because he was becoming a friend of mine as well. He invited me out with his good friend and their girlfriends to drink and had a really good time.

I was hurt from what DrinkingHard had said the night before and was asking friends to see if he was justified with being angry by getting different people's thoughts. The reason I told Jason was because I knew DrinkingHard didn't really give Jason any chance of getting to know him, and that he is actually a really nice guy. I told Jason not to worry or make anything of it because I knew DrinkingHard's opinion of who Jason really was was wrong.

I can't think of there being anything else that could be made public by DrinkingHard. I do apologize for telling Jason what you thought of him, though I wanted to let him know partially so he could talk to you so you'd get to know the actual Jason.

However, I am still hurt by the nasty things DrinkingHard said, I can understand with wrongful assumptions why he would get angry, but not the hurtful things he did.

I just wish this whole thing could be dropped and apologies exchanged.

Cheers,
Matt

Nah without kidding, I know Nysus as a cool guy.

so you ran and snitched right after he told you something in CONFIDENCE?

I've heard shit from people about other people and I would be cool with both of them, but I"m not gonna run like a bitch and tattletale what one party said about the other....that can only breed hatred.....

Darren - Sorry, that I would definitely not tell anyone. Good try though.

Soul_Rebel - That is what I wanted to do from the start, though he had said he didn't want me to contact him again. I got more replies out of him, but he still didn't sway from his original view. I can only try.

toodamnfli - I could have let this become a 50 page thread though I'd really rather not when it is so personally affecting. You can keep bumping the thread though so everyone can read the thread if you want.

Eric - People sometimes need to vent in various ways and GFY seems to be a liked way.

flashfreak - Thank you.

MakingCoin - I hope I covered everything. If there's anything else I'm unaware of, I hopefully I have a legitimate defense.

XXXManager - Do you like your cum salty and creamy too?

Cheers,
Matt

Thanks. Means a lot.

Cheers,
Matt

It's an assumption made that things would be said would be in confidence to whomever is around.

It wasn't meant to spread hatred and I told Jason that to begin with. Jason had even told me that he was bullshitting and trying to act all high and mighty when he was talking with DrinkingHard. I wanted to try to help make things right between DrinkingHard and Jason.

Ran? Snitched? I ran, from what? It wasn't snitching. If you read what I said you would have realized that. I think this whole thing happened because of misunderstanding, and it's even continuing with your reply BVF.

Dictionary.com's definition of SNITCH - "To steal (something, usually something of little value); pilfer. See Synonyms at steal."

Dictionary.com's first listed meaning for STEAL - "To take (the property of another) without right or permission."

The first thing I did was asked him about the domain. I really don't have time to defend everyone elses' accusations/or attempts at being picky to attempt to create more problems as the GFY way goes.

I'd still like to talk to DrinkingHard over the phone. Or on ICQ.

Cheers,
Matt

funny how everyone takes drama to GFY first.

Well, it wasn't the first place because I had already explained the same as above to him on ICQ, though he still did not seem understand.

Cheers,
Matt

American's definition of SNITCH - "A tattle-tale, a snake in the grass, someone who will convey information that was told to them in confidence to another party who shouldn't be receiving that information"

I didn't say you ran from anything or stole anything....When I said you "ran and snitched", I meant "you went and tattle-taled"

Ah.

I am off to walk Kylie and get some chores done.

Cheers,
Matt

See where gossip leads to? You're all a bunch of gay homosexuals.

Oh shit drama..

i was too busy drinking and helping strippers work their way through school. I cant believe people find time for drama at a convention. Even labret and 12clicks came back as...well....they didnt fight to the death.

First of all, Nysus.. If your friend is going to have nuff cash on him, and you tell your other friend.. And he wants to rob the guy.. ANd you say no.. And he says fuck off I'll do what I want... Yer in a situation... At that point you're forced to choose sides because of your honesty. You think that because you're honest and a nice guy, that your duties end there.. But even you solving someone elses problem may cause a problem for you.. Like what happened here.

So, if you chose to tell your friend about something DH said in conversation, at that point you chose your loyalty. I certainly hope it was worth it.

Secondly, and more importantly, PEOPLE, Nysus is a nice guy. He's been nothing but polite and honest, and really does mean well. I think he deserves at least one break here!

And the moral of the story? Smoke a joint instead of getting drunk - things will go more smoothly.

I'm just about to jump on the plane to head home to Vancouver.

Nysus, only 6 more hours until I release ALL the info.

DH

P.S. Jason I will message you when I get back to resolve issues, my ICQ is fucked up on this piece of shit Compaq laptop.

pathetic...
if you have smth to say say it now... otherwise it's clear: you're just an attention whore!

What was the domain name?

You grab the domain, im gonna call nysus and trash all my friends and we'll meet back here to see who gets fried first. hehehe

haha...money in the bank

i never share ideas that matter with anyone but the people i work for.


lifelesson #2 billion

http://user-nix.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1532

remove the "-" from the URL

Nysus:
I don't care what the taste of cum is as long as she swallows ;)

As to the upcoming story..
I think its gay of DrinkingHard not to tell us now and wait 6 hours or whatever. What do you think man? that you are running a promo to a movie? LOL

Nysus:
Unless you consider Jason as a friend and DH as just another guy, you made a grave mistake "passing on the word". Just my opinion.
If two people you regard as friends/buddies talk trash about one another or even if only one side does that, you should keep silent on that. Its their problem. If you wanted, you could hint to Jason that you think DH got the wrong impression about him and maybe they should meet up - that is assuming you care about making peace between the two.

As to the domain name issue... I know you are a good guy and I also know you are a sensitive guy.. So you should have known that this subject is something you should approach with more care ESPECIALLY after you "ran and tell" Jason what DH said about him.. You should have expected DH not to act like fonzey about that...
he overreacted? Well maybe, but that doesn't matter.
Unless you thought its an idea that you both own and created you should have approached him with somethign like
"DH, listen, I really think the domain/idea you talked about the other day is good and worth doing. I was wondering if you are doing anything with it, in which case I would be happy to take part.. OR alternatively, if you have no intentions doing anything with it, would it be ok with you if I picked up the idea?"

If someone gets angry with you after such a question I would say that someone is a dick.
You have to be careful when handling issues of intelectual property, ideas and money. People tend to take that shit offensively.

My personal stand of that matter is that, there are so many ideas out there and enough good ones that its best to stay away from friction and contraversy. Whenever in doubt about such matters, just move on.

That being said, I think there is no reason flaming about anything but just talk like adults and come to an agreement between you.

Bashing you on GFY will get DH nowhere since you already told the story (unless we miss a crucial piece of the story ;)) since wise people can guess how DH see's the same story from his point of view.

MUHAHAHA

Nysus, if that post has anything to do with the idea DH has, you are asking for trouble..
Trying to openly raising investment on an idea of someone else which you claim he doesn't want to do while saying its a goldmine... Well...

Where's the popcorn smiley

What a snake.. Nysus next time I see you I'm going to have Hungryman sit on you and I'm going to shave off that fucking eyebrow of yours..haha..

you forgot a period there.

now I see why webmasters parties encourage drinks...to get all the great ideas through liquor...wheres my tinfoil hat!

Wow. I take a nap and all this. Hold please while I respond to everyone. Thanks to most of you for your responses.

Cheers,
Matt

Is there a condensed version?

how old is that thread... ?

BTW if Nysus is a thief ( of ideas ), then I no more trust anyone here

fuck, why is that url banned ?!?

Lensman bans anything that competes with him.
Get used to it. Talk about AP etc or talk about nothing. lol

ah when I met drinking hard it was 4 in the morning I was piss drunk and with my friends,

when he walked over his was with jeff and nysus,

nysus, was good with me ,and jeff too,

they both seemed liek nice guys a bit nervous and real fans of my site and respected me,

and I imediatly liked them and talked with them

I agreed to list there gallerys better and even took nysus drinking the next night when I saw him in the lobby,

as for DH, he walked up to me all smooth with a big chat all cool, kissing my ass,

I was not in the mood to be played and bullshited, so I acted like a big shot, saying I love meeting fans, and I introduced my friend as my personal dentist, because hes in dentist school,

shit like that,

DH was fonny with me talking about how great he is and shows, he was drunk so was I, I agreed to link his galleries better and increase my trade with his site throat pockers,

now when nysus told me how DH pissed on him,

well I dont know if nysus stole anything but I think its obious DH is the big dog, and doing the barking, and I always like to stick up for the little guy,

and what he told me about DH talking trash shit about me in the car,

thats fine, haters are everywhere, I dont know what shit talk he said or how disrespectful I was not there,

Ill tak with DH, and depending on how pissed I am, well see,

but its probably not that big a deal,

so I dont know what this sily thread is about, but I think people should leave nysus alone,

and DH, I look forward to hearing from you,

later