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MrPopup · 06-09-2003, 01:24 PM

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anyways....

Q. How can webmasters and others involved with the adult industry be encouraged to use legitimate non-pirated software?

Roald · 06-09-2003, 01:25 PM

Lower the price

Martin · 06-09-2003, 01:26 PM

Give it to me for free..

AdultNex · 06-09-2003, 01:37 PM

Couple it with gimmicks or lower the prices, or when software companies put a big stand on pirated software.

Seriously, when one has downloaded pirated warez, they will keep doing it until they can no longer download.

freeadultcontent · 06-09-2003, 01:38 PM

I only use non pirated software. I have a firm belief in copyright laws.

Dildozer · 06-09-2003, 01:46 PM

lower the price i say

Project-Shadow · 06-09-2003, 02:03 PM

Lower price... To be honest most starting webmasters wont be able to afford $2k for a copy of adobe :P

NetRodent · 06-09-2003, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup
okay this one might be for publication so please no fancy HTML...

anyways....

Q. How can webmasters and others involved with the adult industry be encouraged to use legitimate non-pirated software?

Give users a reason to buy it. Perhaps updates, support or something else positive. You could also start distributing virus infected copies of the software to warez sites.

NBDesign · 06-09-2003, 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by freeadultcontent
I only use non pirated software. I have a firm belief in copyright laws.

Me too, especially since I sell web software (scripts) and have been ripped off and had my stuff resold and given away....

Fuck you theives!!!

manilaheat · 06-09-2003, 02:12 PM

Give adult webmasters a special price, like Microsoft gives College Students deals on their software.

MrPopup · 06-09-2003, 02:13 PM

Overwhemingly so far I see webmasters complaining about price.

But what makes a webmaster any different than any other small business? Do all small businesses deserve the same break?

Roald · 06-09-2003, 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by NetRodent
......You could also start distributing virus infected copies of the software to warez sites.

Haha now that would be a good way to elliminate a lot of bizz I guess

asuna · 06-09-2003, 02:17 PM

start making as many programs login based, you want to use it? pay a flat fee for a year or something, and have the program get authorization from the company

MrPopup · 06-09-2003, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by asuna
start making as many programs login based, you want to use it? pay a flat fee for a year or something, and have the program get authorization from the company

i agree....make the software free. pay-per-day or pay-per access might be the way to go.

Roald · 06-09-2003, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by asuna
start making as many programs login based, you want to use it? pay a flat fee for a year or something, and have the program get authorization from the company

Yeah lets hope they don't host it at Like Whoa then

asuna · 06-09-2003, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by QuaShe

Yeah lets hope they don't host it at Like Whoa then

manilaheat · 06-09-2003, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup
Overwhemingly so far I see webmasters complaining about price.

But what makes a webmaster any different than any other small business? Do all small businesses deserve the same break?

Most small businesses don't have proper copies of software either...

manilaheat · 06-09-2003, 02:21 PM

And just for the record, since this is getting published, we do not use any pirated software

Ironhorse · 06-09-2003, 02:22 PM

Government incentives..no really cost is key

Tala · 06-09-2003, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by QuaShe

Yeah lets hope they don't host it at Like Whoa then

Machete_ · 06-09-2003, 02:28 PM

I had the same problem when I sold Videoediting systems. Some of the customers dident have the money upfront to buy the software, or wasent sure that it was the right software for them.

We introduced a "subscribtion system" like the one microsoft tryed to use. The customer "leased" the software from us for a specific project or period. In the end of the period the customer could buy the software for the salesprice - the lease price, or he could simply return it to us.

It worked great for us, but it was a bitch to sell the idear to the customer and the software producer, but in the end they all liked it.

amacontent · 06-09-2003, 02:28 PM

MrPopup · 06-09-2003, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ebus_dk
I had the same problem when I sold Videoediting systems. Some of the customers dident have the money upfront to buy the software, or wasent sure that it was the right software for them.

We introduced a "subscribtion system" like the one microsoft tryed to use. The customer "leased" the software from us for a specific project or period. In the end of the period the customer could buy the software for the salesprice - the lease price, or he could simply return it to us.

It worked great for us, but it was a bitch to sell the idear to the customer and the software producer, but in the end they all liked it.

great answer ebus_dk

Roald · 06-09-2003, 02:32 PM

I think when Adobe lowers the price for PS in general they would sell way more then they are doing now. When I started to do designing I wanted to buy a new version of PS but ended up with a much older version of it as back then I couldn't/wouldn't want to pay that much for it. Same for the updates.

gothweb · 06-09-2003, 02:45 PM

I think Adobe inc. knows more about marketing than we do, and have every right to set their pricing. I think people stealing is people stealing.

Roald · 06-09-2003, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
I think Adobe inc. knows more about marketing than we do, and have every right to set their pricing. I think people stealing is people stealing.

Agreed, but with the prices they have I can imagine people getting Kazaa to get their stuff.

Machete_ · 06-09-2003, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup

great answer ebus_dk

... sometimes I even surprices myself

ServerGenius · 06-09-2003, 03:08 PM

A lot of companies have benefitted from pirated versions of their
software. Adobe, Microsoft, Virus scanners. Those companies
give fuck all about you using the software and not paying.

They are interested in the companies that do buy those licenses.
As soon as you start making some bucks with help of that
software you start to get interesting for those companies.

You think Bill Gates gives a fuck about all those illegal copies of
Windows XP, 98, 2K? No way man, they only give a fuck if you
are a big company with a lot of money and don't have licenses.

DynaMite

machineg · 06-09-2003, 03:30 PM

Price is totally one point ..
especially the amount of software we use in the adult industry as compared to others ..
Myself I worked design for a year on a $79 program before I could afford adobe LOL . the price they ask is fucking outrageous .. but worth the investment if you can make it pay off.

I dunno about 2k though .. I paid $1100 CND

another point is " one use" software .. some of the programs are too expensive considering the amount of time one might actually use them , I paid $59CND for XARA 3d and I have used it all of twice or three times .

Specific targeted software bundles would be cool at discounted prices .

MrPopup · 06-10-2003, 10:53 AM

bump. reply people.

Cassie · 06-10-2003, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup
Overwhemingly so far I see webmasters complaining about price.

But what makes a webmaster any different than any other small business? Do all small businesses deserve the same break?

because the adult biz is more innovative then mainstream! if you give webmasters the option to try it free for say 15 days with the option to purchase the product at a reduced price over what a normal customer would be charges, then they are more likely to a) give better feedback and b) purchase the product.

not only does the company get accurate feedback on any bugs that may need fixing, they may also get the sale.

just my

Sassyass · 06-10-2003, 11:08 AM

I bet a lot of webmasters need less than they think.

Book on HTML/ ASP/ PHP / JAVA/ C++/ PERL $30.00 each
Used copy of Interdev pro edition $60.00 on ebay now
Note pad FREE
HTML Editor FREE
Ulead photo impact $80.00
Movie Maker FREE

With a few months of study, and $240 bucks, you can do what ever you need.

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