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Old 06-09-2003, 11:07 AM   #1
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:stop Regarding geting ripped off - Even if Tom Davis TRIED to pull a scam on you, read:

There has got to be at least 5 people he has successfully ripped off. I was going to call the Attorney General's office earlier this morning, but I wanted to take a nap & give him the opportunity to see quiet's e-mail & this thread. Still no answer, though.

I think it makes the most sense to compile a list of ALL the people who have been ripped off AND all the people who have stories of how he has tried to get money out of you with the same scam.

If any of you would please, in the next few hours, either post your story, with some legitemate contact information for the police in this thread or ICQ 163385497 or e-mail me at Machine at Machine-fuck.com

It's time to bring this fucker and his business down.

He's known as Magicman, xxxinovations & Rockstar.

His contact information is:

Tom Davis
213 Fleming Street
Rocky Mount North Carolina
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Please don't be afraid to bring legal repercussion to a fucking scumbag bitch.
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Old 06-09-2003, 11:08 AM   #2
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wow, whats this all about. I must've missed a good thread.

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wow, whats this all about. I must've missed a good thread.

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Old 06-09-2003, 11:16 AM   #4
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He's AKA magicman too? The content guy??
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Old 06-09-2003, 11:23 AM   #5
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The only thing I know about Tom Davis is that he's sent me several sign ups. I haven't had any problems with him. He asked me for $200 a few days ago but I didn't have time to talk about it at the moment.

If he promised to do gallery submissions for you I'm sure he'll do them.
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Old 06-09-2003, 11:25 AM   #6
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The only thing I know about Tom Davis is that he's sent me several sign ups. I haven't had any problems with him. He asked me for $200 a few days ago but I didn't have time to talk about it at the moment.

If he promised to do gallery submissions for you I'm sure he'll do them.
This guy has used the same $200 gallery submission scheme on like 5 people I know of successfully and ripped them all off, and yes he was magicman and selling stolen content as well... there are many people who will attest to this, including Va2K and Tam at PIB whom he also scammed.. Don't fall for it.
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The only thing I know about Tom Davis is that he's sent me several sign ups. I haven't had any problems with him. He asked me for $200 a few days ago but I didn't have time to talk about it at the moment.

If he promised to do gallery submissions for you I'm sure he'll do them.
And what about all the other people he's done this too?

That's gonna be a hell of a lot of submissions to do for people when he somehow reappears.
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http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ht=Tom+Dav is
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I'm not at my computer, but I'll help you out anyway you can hybrid. I think the first time his scam when through was through his girlfriend/wife...but I have all the details at home. I also have to pull up the part where he says he's got deals with Marks, Snakesworld and a few others where he's preapproved (which is also why I think some of us would have used him - hard to get in those TGP's)

Will pull all the goodies out later......ciao
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Old 06-09-2003, 01:02 PM   #12
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you arent talking about xxxinnovations that posts on this board are you? i do a lot of tshirt business with them and havent had any trouble at all. they are 123 ez tees out of pa.
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Old 06-09-2003, 01:44 PM   #13
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This explains why he called me twice over the weekend and sent an email asking if I was around...

He did some submissions for me in April.

It was my first time contracting out TGP submissions.

He apparently did some, because I saw some traffic out of it. However, I got no major listings from the 30 days worth he did.

I never got any clear answers about where they were sent to or access to his server logs of hits and traffic.

I just expect someone to be way on top of things if I am FedEx'ing them a check.

After reading the rip-off posts, however, I was a bit scared having sent him 600 or so images for promo...
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you arent talking about xxxinnovations that posts on this board are you? i do a lot of tshirt business with them and havent had any trouble at all. they are 123 ez tees out of pa.
Nope. Hes not talking about xxxinnovations
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Old 06-09-2003, 01:53 PM   #15
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yep, I know this guy. MagicMan, icq: 56290467

he tried to pull the same shit on me, getting me to buy his content, saying he "needed $50 to take his girl out to a bar"

His icq profile sais he is 36 years old, born in 1963?
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Alright, update.

I contacted the Attorney General in my state, who are thankfully helpful as fuck. They said they will launch an investigation, and try to conotact him on my behalf to see what the deal is. I just have to fill out a form online.

The good 'ol boys in North Carolina are a different story, this fucking idiot tells me after repeatedly asking over and over again to explain what a "galleray submit sorvice is sposed ta be" that I can't file a report because there's no crime commited yet. He says "you gotta give the boy a fightin' chance" and "he could be sleeping, or dead for all you know". To which I asked how he would feel if he payed 200 dollars and never heard a word. He just came across as lazy. Long story short, If I can't prove anything [which in my opinion, is their fucking job] All I can do is file a civil suit through North Carolina's Magistrate.

Unless:

I can get more people who have kept documented information of him trying to scam and or actually getting scammed by this piece of shit. In this case, I can file a criminal report.

Funny thing is, if I can get him liable in a civil suit, then criminal charges will be brought against him. WHat the fuck? You know the first thing a judge is going to say is "why did'nt you file a police report?".

Bullshit.

ANyway, hopefully, my local government will help me out, but I really need all the people that complained about this fuck to step forward. The more evidence we give these rednecks, the less their going to dig into adult. Which I would imagine would be a good thing considering the level of ignorance with this gentleman I talked to.
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there's a fraud investigator around here that is by no means afraid of crossing state borders or the internet. he's rather rabid, might be able to get him to help...
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The following is what I am out with him:

Amount: $130.00
Transaction ID: 57451407CT769881B
Subject: Payment for Content
Note: Hi Tom, this is for payment for the 8000 pics we discussed.
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Amount: $69.95
Transaction ID: 7HF83498KH309694L
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Item/Product Name: Content Set One
Item/Product Number: k-set001
Buyer: Tammy Spradling
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I wouldn't have minded so bad but seeing as how I can't use this damn content and THEN he comes BACK at me as someone else, it REALLY pisses me off...... to think I even THOUGHT about giving up more money to him..... now mind you, the newest company he worked with took care of me on it........ but this still really eats my ass that when I didn't have much money at ALL and someone to take advantage of that...... just eats me alive.

I am doing better financially NOW, but at the time it was literally ALL I had and this fuck knew it.. and no I don't get REALLY pissed often on these boards, but ripping people off for ANY reason just eats me alive. People think that because we don't walk into an office and physically do business that THIS is a right for them to just walk around ripping people off, well I got news for anyone....... I treat this as I would ANY business I conduct whether it be here or in person and I conduct myself accordingly and it really eats my ass when people don't do the same thing with me.

It bugs me most when someone takes advantage of the kindness of others and walks all over them........

Ok, I'll shut up..... this one is just REALLY close to home with me because had I not been warned, I was headed right into the SAME fucking mess......... and people wonder why half us are so damn paranoid to deal with anyone anymore....... HA!!!!!

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I am very resistant to speak negatively of others.

However, Tom Davis did do some contract TGP submitting for me for a period of about 60 days.

He did OK, and I could tell by the traffic he was actually doing some work.

Now, a few days ago, he called me at home, said he had a very important bill to pay, and offered me a very good deal on doing some contract submitting. He needed me to western union him $200 within the hour. He sounded somewhat distressed.

I sensed there was something up, but my midwestern upbringing has been to believe people, particularly when I have done business with them in the past. Luckily, $200 isn't very much $.

He said he would get back to me later in the day with some particulars, after he received the money.

I got a receipt from western union that he picked up the $ in Rocky Mount NC.

The only reason I write this is just to tip others off.

I mostly feel sad that someone who could be making real money with me is in a life situation that he might need to do something like this. I make deals with people all the time by my word. I fedexed Mr. Davis several thousand dollars for work he said he would do, and I believe he did do.

Now it comes to this.

Tom, I hope at some time you can get your situation together.

And, I will always try to look for the good in others.
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I am very resistant to speak negatively of others.

However, Tom Davis did do some contract TGP submitting for me for a period of about 60 days.

He did OK, and I could tell by the traffic he was actually doing some work.

Now, a few days ago, he called me at home, said he had a very important bill to pay, and offered me a very good deal on doing some contract submitting. He needed me to western union him $200 within the hour. He sounded somewhat distressed.

I sensed there was something up, but my midwestern upbringing has been to believe people, particularly when I have done business with them in the past. Luckily, $200 isn't very much $.

He said he would get back to me later in the day with some particulars, after he received the money.

I got a receipt from western union that he picked up the $ in Rocky Mount NC.

The only reason I write this is just to tip others off.

I mostly feel sad that someone who could be making real money with me is in a life situation that he might need to do something like this. I make deals with people all the time by my word. I fedexed Mr. Davis several thousand dollars for work he said he would do, and I believe he did do.

Now it comes to this.

Tom, I hope at some time you can get your situation together.

And, I will always try to look for the good in others.
He's been doing the phoning people asking for $200 thing a lot in the last few weeks.. What I don't fucking get is doesn't this asshole realize it's going to get out on the boards? People are going to put two and two together and figure his shit out? I don't want to see him rip off any more of my friends. I'd dearly love to see him in jail. He gives all people in the adult industry a bad name.
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I'm going to ICQ him and see if I can borrow $200 until my ATM card is fixed.
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Bump this motherfucker up right now.
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damn, he scammed Tam too :/

Tam I agree 100% with you on everything you posted.
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Haha i remember in november i almost bought alot of content from him for a cheap price. Glad LM talked me into getting content from jact instead. I woulda got ripped :[
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How to contact the Rocky Mount, NC police department by phone or email.

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Thanks, man, but about 5 posts up, I posted this:



Alright, update.

I contacted the Attorney General in my state, who are thankfully helpful as fuck. They said they will launch an investigation, and try to conotact him on my behalf to see what the deal is. I just have to fill out a form online.

The good 'ol boys in North Carolina are a different story, this fucking idiot tells me after repeatedly asking over and over again to explain what a "galleray submit sorvice is sposed ta be" that I can't file a report because there's no crime commited yet. He says "you gotta give the boy a fightin' chance" and "he could be sleeping, or dead for all you know". To which I asked how he would feel if he payed 200 dollars and never heard a word. He just came across as lazy. Long story short, If I can't prove anything [which in my opinion, is their fucking job] All I can do is file a civil suit through North Carolina's Magistrate.

Unless:

I can get more people who have kept documented information of him trying to scam and or actually getting scammed by this piece of shit. In this case, I can file a criminal report.

Funny thing is, if I can get him liable in a civil suit, then criminal charges will be brought against him. WHat the fuck? You know the first thing a judge is going to say is "why did'nt you file a police report?".

Bullshit.

ANyway, hopefully, my local government will help me out, but I really need all the people that complained about this fuck to step forward. The more evidence we give these rednecks, the less their going to dig into adult. Which I would imagine would be a good thing considering the level of ignorance with this gentleman I talked to.
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I know Tom Davies tried to screw Brujah by selling him heaps of content for $99 apparently her needed the money urgently because his car had broken down. Thankfully Brujah contacted me and we figured out that he was scamming webmasters to send money directly to him via western union.

va2k will be able to give you information about being screwed by Tom Davies as well.

the fucker!
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I know Tom Davies tried to screw Brujah by selling him heaps of content for $99 because his car had broken down. Thankfully Brujah contacted me and we figured out that he was scamming webmasters to send money directly to him via western union.

va2k will be able to give you information about being screwed by Tom Davies as well.

the fucker!
He gave me the same shit except it was his GF getting towed and he needed the money
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Do any of you guys have saved logs - proof?

I can't press any charges unless you guys come with some shit.
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Tom Davis AKA MagicMan owes me a refund on the content. Straight to hell with him!


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Thanks, man, but about 5 posts up, I posted this:
Saw that. Read the whole thing. Are you saying you were talking about the local police, and not the North Carolina Attorney General ?
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damn, he scammed Tam too :/

Tam I agree 100% with you on everything you posted.
Yup and dumbass me almost walked RIGHT back into the lions den..... thank GOD FAProductions took good care of their people THIS time.....
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It's a shame, because people like him give Gallery submitters a bad rep. I personally know of two really great and honest submission services that do outstanding work.

1) Creative Online Solutions - http://www.creativeonlinesolutions.com
Trix (TomsPics) and Siccmade do great stuff.

2) Gallery Submit Service - http://www.gallerysubmitservice.com
DrinkingHard is a very upfront guy.

It seems I see a lot of threads that reflect negatively on submission services, there are still an honest bunch of us around.
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Old 06-10-2003, 08:13 AM   #40
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