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Old 06-08-2003, 08:57 PM   #1
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Let me get this straight...

Charly bitches about the content blowouts going on awhile ago, so J$Styles starts contentblowout.com. So to battle this, everyone and their dog is giving content away free (including Charly)? Just trying to make sure I got this straight.

Should I give some away too?

We need a bleet smiliey.
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Old 06-08-2003, 08:57 PM   #2
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Old 06-08-2003, 09:00 PM   #3
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Old 06-08-2003, 09:39 PM   #4
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Old 06-08-2003, 09:42 PM   #5
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Charly bitches about the content blowouts going on awhile ago, so J$Styles starts contentblowout.com. So to battle this, everyone and their dog is giving content away free (including Charly)? Just trying to make sure I got this straight.

Should I give some away too?

We need a bleet smiliey.

Yes you should ....


Can I get a refund on past purchases during the time of all these blowout sales ?
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Old 06-08-2003, 09:44 PM   #6
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Old 06-08-2003, 09:46 PM   #7
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the ones who ultimately lose are the webmasters,when the content wont convert anymore
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Old 06-08-2003, 09:47 PM   #8
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the ones who ultimately lose are the webmasters,when the content wont convert anymore
it makes great filler content, as well as great free site content.
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Old 06-08-2003, 09:49 PM   #10
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it makes great filler content, as well as great free site content.

If all content was like this then what would be in members areas for paying customers ... sorry I fail to see your logic....


Actually Jact no but seeing as how all the others have gone down in price ... you may be one of the few left that can raise your prices ... except on my account that is
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If all content was like this then what would be in members areas for paying customers ... sorry I fail to see your logic....
TDF mentioned that this was bad for conversions. My logic is don't use it for conversions. Don't build a site around this content or use it in a tour or in a gallery.

But for some sites, this is an extra update.
For others, it's a few extra free sites or an AVS site.

It's free, so you ain't gonna lose money by giving it away for free, especially if you use free hosting.
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Old 06-08-2003, 10:13 PM   #12
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Charly bitches about the content blowouts going on awhile ago, so J$Styles starts contentblowout.com. So to battle this, everyone and their dog is giving content away free (including Charly)? Just trying to make sure I got this straight.

Should I give some away too?
I don't know about blowing out content but we give away a free set now and again to get new contacts in our database. We also shoot and buy content just to use as incentives for more sales. But the give aways always cost way more then they bring in:-) At least on this board.
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Old 06-09-2003, 03:49 AM   #13
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hey jact, you give away free content too...just on a buy one get one free basis. Great stuff
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Old 06-09-2003, 03:53 AM   #14
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I always have to laugh when I see everybody say yeah great
filler content, great for freesites.....

Man the countless times I see ZIPcontent, garage sale stuff as
in the main sections of membersareas it's just amazing.

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Old 06-09-2003, 01:21 PM   #15
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the ones who ultimately lose are the webmasters,when the content wont convert anymore
The example I'm using below is not a science, but I don't think it's too far from accurate:

Let's say "ABCDEFG Content" sells their sets 20 - 30 times.

Then, I do a blowout for them and we sell 100 packages.

That's 120 - 130 times the content has been sold, right?

For arguments sake let's say it was sold 150 times total, ok?

Although we've offered 20 domain licenses, my experience has shown that most webmasters that have purchased the blowout deals have between 1 and 5 sites. (that's based receiving the licensing agreement and seeing the URL's webmasters intend on publishing the content on)

Now let's raise that number to 10 URL's the content will be published on.

So, now the content can be viewed on 1500 sites accross the web?

Let's raise that number to 5,000 sites accross the web with all the TGP submissions etc.

Well, I don't know EXACTLY how many Adult sites there are TOTAL, but I would say that if 5,000 carried one companies content it's still not as saturated as you might believe.

Also, I think it helps conversions if your pushing a free site with certain images and the paysite your promoting has a tour featuring images from the same set.

If the surfer liked the first images and sees similar images on the tour too, it reinforces that he'll see content that he likes if he joins the paysite, making it convert better!

I don't know for sure, but I believe my points are valid.

Just my

Go ahead and rip my hypothosis apart

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Old 06-09-2003, 01:37 PM   #16
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The example I'm using below is not a science, but I don't think it's too far from accurate:

Let's say "ABCDEFG Content" sells their sets 20 - 30 times.

Then, I do a blowout for them and we sell 100 packages.

That's 120 - 130 times the content has been sold, right?

For arguments sake let's say it was sold 150 times total, ok?

Although we've offered 20 domain licenses, my experience has shown that most webmasters that have purchased the blowout deals have between 1 and 5 sites. (that's based receiving the licensing agreement and seeing the URL's webmasters intend on publishing the content on)

Now let's raise that number to 10 URL's the content will be published on.

So, now the content can be viewed on 1500 sites accross the web?

Let's raise that number to 5,000 sites accross the web with all the TGP submissions etc.

Well, I don't know EXACTLY how many Adult sites there are TOTAL, but I would say that if 5,000 carried one companies content it's still not as saturated as you might believe.

Also, I think it helps conversions if your pushing a free site with certain images and the paysite your promoting has a tour featuring images from the same set.

If the surfer liked the first images and sees similar images on the tour too, it reinforces that he'll see content that he likes if he joins the paysite, making it convert better!

I don't know for sure, but I believe my points are valid.

Just my

Go ahead and rip my hypothosis apart

I would agree with that breakdown.

we think there are about 10,000 webmasters or more with about 300-500 members, in the arena to buy our ocntent, then the bigger boys on top of that leaves plenty of scope, without having to price your content out of the market.

Unless your content sucks, in which case discount the fuck out of it, and it'll still go nowehere...
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Old 06-09-2003, 01:51 PM   #17
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How did this go from a statement about people giving content away "FREE" to a discussion about blowing content out cheap?
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