Would you promote a 1:200 program that pays $20 PSU?

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  • Mr. Marks
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    • Jun 2001
    • 7517

    #1

    Would you promote a 1:200 program that pays $20 PSU?

    Assuming that this program converts decently at 1:200 or better, would you bother with this per sign up program?
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  • freeones
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    • Jul 2001
    • 3406

    #2
    sure gimme the URL

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    • detoxed
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      • Jan 2003
      • 17798

      #3
      yes

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      • Mutt
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Sep 2002
        • 34431

        #4
        of course. you're getting money upfront which is always nice.
        if the conversions are really 1:200 and under it's a great deal. also when somebody offers more modest PPS payout it tells me that they are likely to be honest people.
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        • Makingcoin
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          • Aug 2002
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          #5
          Yes, but I would choose one that pays $35 or 40 per sign up first

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          • quiet
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            • Sep 2001
            • 25115

            #6
            1:200 on what kind of traffic?
            we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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            • Jason
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2002
              • 4287

              #7
              we convert less than 1:200 for the majority of the webmasters that send.


              and we pay $25 PSU.
              I stay busy.

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              • Mr. Marks
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                • Jun 2001
                • 7517

                #8
                Originally posted by Mutt
                of course. you're getting money upfront which is always nice.
                if the conversions are really 1:200 and under it's a great deal. also when somebody offers more modest PPS payout it tells me that they are likely to be honest people.
                Thanks for input, Mutt. Much appreciated. As The Doc once noted on an earlier thread, the math all works out, there's really no need to shave.

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                • Mr. Marks
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                  • Jun 2001
                  • 7517

                  #9
                  Originally posted by PornDollar
                  we convert less than 1:200 for the majority of the webmasters that send.


                  and we pay $25 PSU.
                  Is that first page hits and raw hits?

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                  • Jason
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 4287

                    #10
                    We count before the surfer even hits the site.

                    The system counts your Raws / Signups in real time through out the day. At the end of the day we calculate your uniques and payout.

                    BTW, all real time data is broken down by the hour.
                    I stay busy.

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                    • Mr. Marks
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                      • Jun 2001
                      • 7517

                      #11
                      Is that 1:200 throughout your whole network or just certain webmasters? Also, will this rate also hold true for TGP traffic, exit / blind traffic, 404 traffic [basically, the differing flavors of traffic out there without factoring in higher quality filtered free site, 3d stage email, and AVS traffic]?


                      Originally posted by PornDollar
                      We count before the surfer even hits the site.

                      The system counts your Raws / Signups in real time through out the day. At the end of the day we calculate your uniques and payout.

                      BTW, all real time data is broken down by the hour.

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                      • Jason
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                        • Dec 2002
                        • 4287

                        #12
                        Each webmaster's traffic is differant. Those who send do great numbers off thier exit traffic.

                        It's all about your traffic.
                        I stay busy.

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                        • Mr. Marks
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                          • Jun 2001
                          • 7517

                          #13
                          Originally posted by PornDollar
                          Each webmaster's traffic is differant...
                          so even with this reality, are you still claiming that you convert 1:200-1:300 across the board? or are you just hijacking my thread?

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                          • Jason
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                            • Dec 2002
                            • 4287

                            #14
                            Our webmasters do great numbers are across the board.

                            You can judge for yourself about the program.

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                            • nocostporn
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                              #15
                              lol
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                              • Jason
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                                • Dec 2002
                                • 4287

                                #16
                                or are you just hijacking my thread?

                                I think I have a bit more class than that.
                                I stay busy.

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                                • Mr. Marks
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                                  • Jun 2001
                                  • 7517

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by PornDollar



                                  I think I have a bit more class than that.
                                  LoL, and more subtlety.

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                                  • Jason
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                                    • Dec 2002
                                    • 4287

                                    #18
                                    I stay busy.

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                                    • Hustlin Entertainment
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • May 2002
                                      • 2326

                                      #19
                                      Makingcoin Yes, but I would choose one that pays $35 or 40 per sign up first
                                      What if they shaved you like some mach 3? Would you still take it?
                                      Last edited by Hustlin Entertainment; 06-01-2003, 04:52 PM.

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                                      • goBigtime
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                                        • Nov 2002
                                        • 7761

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Hustlin Entertainment


                                        What if they shaved you like some mach 3? Would you still take it?
                                        Mach 3 shavers are the best

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                                        • Theo
                                          HAL 9000
                                          • May 2001
                                          • 34515

                                          #21
                                          it's 10cents/click
                                          probably yes

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                                          • Mr. Marks
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jun 2001
                                            • 7517

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Hustlin Entertainment


                                            What if they shaved you like some mach 3? Would you still take it?
                                            There's no need to shave, there's enough revenue streams built into a 30% retaining PSU setup for it to work. I posed the question cuz I'm interested in gauging volume.

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                                            • Mr. Marks
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                                              • Jun 2001
                                              • 7517

                                              #23
                                              Besides the good conversion rate, anyone have any ideas re what kind of premiums to offer to webmasters? prizes? redeemable points? trips?

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                                              • Snake Doctor
                                                I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                • Mar 2001
                                                • 13449

                                                #24
                                                The only problem with your theory is that everyone and their brother "claims" to convert 1 in 200 or some shit like that...so I really don't think you'd have webmasters rushing to your door to promote you.

                                                If you're that confident in the conversions you could break it down and pay per click, a much bigger headache of a program to run, but you'd most DEFINITELY get a lot more webmaster traffic that way.

                                                1 in 200 at $20 per breaks down to 10 cents a click.
                                                Knock off 2 cents to cover the increased labor and software costs of a click program. At 8 cents a click you'd get more traffic than you know what to do with.
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                                                • Mr. Marks
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                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                  • 7517

                                                  #25
                                                  Problem with PPC is fraud, unfortunately. It appears, correct me if I am worng, that fraud escalates in PPC as compared to PSU.


                                                  Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                  The only problem with your theory is that everyone and their brother "claims" to convert 1 in 200 or some shit like that...so I really don't think you'd have webmasters rushing to your door to promote you.

                                                  If you're that confident in the conversions you could break it down and pay per click, a much bigger headache of a program to run, but you'd most DEFINITELY get a lot more webmaster traffic that way.

                                                  1 in 200 at $20 per breaks down to 10 cents a click.
                                                  Knock off 2 cents to cover the increased labor and software costs of a click program. At 8 cents a click you'd get more traffic than you know what to do with.

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                                                  • Mr. Marks
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                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                    • 7517

                                                    #26
                                                    I am confident that it would convert decently...I just can't say the same for webmasters who send 5th page exit popups or 404s/blinds.
                                                    Hence, the little Q + A about "network" stats and "practical" stats.

                                                    Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                    The only problem with your theory is that everyone and their brother "claims" to convert 1 in 200 or some shit like that...so I really don't think you'd have webmasters rushing to your door to promote you.

                                                    If you're that confident in the conversions you could break it down and pay per click, a much bigger headache of a program to run, but you'd most DEFINITELY get a lot more webmaster traffic that way.

                                                    1 in 200 at $20 per breaks down to 10 cents a click.
                                                    Knock off 2 cents to cover the increased labor and software costs of a click program. At 8 cents a click you'd get more traffic than you know what to do with.

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                                                    • Snake Doctor
                                                      I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                      • 13449

                                                      #27
                                                      Oh of course the fraud will go up, WAY up, which is why I said it would be more labor intensive.
                                                      You'd have to have a crew of people checking referring urls all day long, and an iron clad set of rules to protect yourself.

                                                      But if I'm not mistaken Lensman has made a buck or two paying per click
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                                                      • the indigo
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                                                        • Sep 2001
                                                        • 2016

                                                        #28
                                                        Dumbest question of the week.

                                                        1:200 @ $20 = 1:500 @ $50

                                                        Oh yeah, would you promote a 1:100 program that pays $10 PSU?
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                                                        • Mr. Marks
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                          • 7517

                                                          #29
                                                          Not so quick, Corky. You're forgetting fraud issues, very few programs offer $50 on trial.

                                                          Originally posted by the indigo
                                                          Dumbest question of the week.

                                                          1:200 @ $20 = 1:500 @ $50

                                                          Oh yeah, would you promote a 1:100 program that pays $10 PSU?

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                                                          • inthestars
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                            • 2021

                                                            #30
                                                            Porn Dollar, I can't login to my stats!!!

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                                                            • Mr. Marks
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                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                              • 7517

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by inthestars
                                                              Porn Dollar, I can't login to my stats!!!
                                                              oh geez

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                                                              • Jason
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                • 4287

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by inthestars
                                                                Porn Dollar, I can't login to my stats!!!

                                                                what is your account?
                                                                I stay busy.

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                                                                • Jason
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                  • 4287

                                                                  #33
                                                                  you can contact me via ICQ 116242107

                                                                  I'm sure its nothing. The system is flawless.
                                                                  I stay busy.

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                                                                  • Snake Doctor
                                                                    I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                    • Mar 2001
                                                                    • 13449

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Papichulo, I'm guessing this program you're talking about will be a free trial or a $1 for a month deal?

                                                                    The more I think about it the more I realize that conversion ratios really don't have anything to do with what a member is worth.
                                                                    If you have a hot site or a hot niche then its going to convert regardless of what the payout is.

                                                                    How much the member is worth has more to do with the pricing strategy and how well you run your back end.
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                                                                    • Reak
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                      • 17920

                                                                      #35
                                                                      1:200 with wich traffic? What kinda program ?

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                                                                      • Jason
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                                        • 4287

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by inthestars
                                                                        Porn Dollar, I can't login to my stats!!!

                                                                        I have logged into our system with a number of differant webmaster accounts.

                                                                        The system is working perfectly for those accounts, so I will assume that you may of misspelled or forgot your password.

                                                                        If you feel that is not the case, like I stated above, you may contact me via ICQ. If there is an issue, it will be resolved.


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                                                                        • ItBurnsWhenIpee
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                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                          • 1288

                                                                          #37
                                                                          It's all about the size of the check!

                                                                          Wait, size doesn't matter? Shit.

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                                                                          • Mr. Marks
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                                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                                            • 7517

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by ItBurnsWhenIpee
                                                                            It's all about the size of the check!

                                                                            ....
                                                                            That's true.

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                                                                            • jimmyf
                                                                              OU812
                                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                                              • 12651

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                                              The only problem with your theory is that everyone and their brother "claims" to convert 1 in 200 or some shit like that...so I really don't think you'd have webmasters rushing to your door to promote you.
                                                                              1/200 HELLO, I have been doing this for a few years and have seen this 1/200 so many fucking times I could I have ONE sponsor that has converted for me for years at around 1/125 not weeks, months, but years. All others I have tried are pure shit.
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                                                                              • Mr. Marks
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by jimmyf
                                                                                1/200 HELLO, I have been doing this for a few years and have seen this 1/200 so many fucking times I could I have ONE sponsor that has converted for me for years at around 1/125 not weeks, months, but years. All others I have tried are pure shit.
                                                                                I don't blame you for being bitter and jaded. such promises do abound. However, if a program is tweaked heavily to adjust to differing types of traffic and representative sources, this goal should be easier to reach compared to a blind release.

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                                                                                • B Sandwich
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                  • 1600

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by the indigo


                                                                                  Oh yeah, would you promote a 1:100 program that pays $10 PSU?
                                                                                  on that note, would you promote a 1:1 program that pays $.10 PSU?
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                                                                                  • Mr. Marks
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                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                    • 7517

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by B Sandwich


                                                                                    on that note, would you promote a 1:1 program that pays $.10 PSU?
                                                                                    I guess it all boils down to traffic volume and traffic mix. In theory 1:200 paying $20 is statistically similar to 1:500 paying $50 or 1:1 paying $.10. However, if you factor in how probabilities work, most people would probably take comfort in 1:200 since it may take a long time for 1:500 to adjust itself to that ratio, the same with 1:1. This is particularly important if you have a fixed amount of traffic and don't diversify.

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                                                                                    • Rich
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                      • 11486

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Who's counting the clicks?

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                                                                                      • Mr. Marks
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                                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                                        • 7517

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Those of you that chose YES, how many of you guys promote the Gay niche? I'm looking at a subniche of gay.

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                                                                                        • Mr. Marks
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                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                          • 7517

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Thanks for the feedback, guys. Definitely much appreciated. Stay tuned for the program announcement soon.

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                                                                                          • B Sandwich
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                                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                                            • 1600

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            ok
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                                                                                            • Porn Mickey
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                                                                                              • Nov 2001
                                                                                              • 2840

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by the indigo
                                                                                              Dumbest question of the week.

                                                                                              1:200 @ $20 = 1:500 @ $50

                                                                                              Oh yeah, would you promote a 1:100 program that pays $10 PSU?
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