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  • Dugmor
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    • Jan 2002
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    #1

    Critique First " Rock Video "

    Ok we just finished editing our first rock video. We used 14 masters with around 120 cuts. We still have a few things to do with color correction. I would like some feed back from those that are video editors or people who are fans of this type of music.

    The band is called Paradise . They will be touring in Europe this summer. I will be heading over to Europe for some of the tour.

    HERE IS THE VIDEO


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    • The Click
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      • Apr 2003
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      #2
      lol - I enjoyed that!


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        • SykkBoy2
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          • Feb 2001
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          #3
          I like the music, enjoyed the pyros, but there were a few times when the singer looked into the camera, it just looked kind of....odd....can't put my finger on it...also, noticed the song was a bit out of sync with the singer's mouth in a few of the closeups....
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            • drunkdollars
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              • Apr 2002
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              #4
              What did you film that with?

              Looks really good to me.
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                • mastamindz
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                  • Feb 2002
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                  #5
                  Its like a mix between Elvis and early 80's glam group.

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                    • Dugmor
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                      • Jan 2002
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                      #6
                      Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                      I like the music, enjoyed the pyros, but there were a few times when the singer looked into the camera, it just looked kind of....odd....can't put my finger on it...also, noticed the song was a bit out of sync with the singer's mouth in a few of the closeups....
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                        • Mutt
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                          • Sep 2002
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                          pretty good

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                            • Dugmor
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by Mutt
                              pretty good

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                                • DirtyDanza
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                                  nice man.... I dig the drummers shirt... the misfits are my fav band .... good job on the vid...... nice look to it... I like it...
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                                    • Dugmor
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                                      • Jan 2002
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                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Mystery Man
                                      the music sucked bigtime
                                      guess the video was ok
                                      We did'nt write or perform the music but I am happy you took the time to watch the video.

                                      Originally posted by Dirty_DS
                                      nice man.... I dig the drummers shirt... the misfits are my fav band .... good job on the vid...... nice look to it... I like it...
                                      Thanks DS.... from what I understand Michel ?Away? Langevin from the band Voivod played drums on there CD.

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                                        • Dugmor
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                                          #11


                                          This is a bands mascot !
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                                            • Quotealex
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                                              • Sep 2001
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                                              #12
                                              There is no storyline in this video, just members of a rock band playing their instrument. You need to spice it up with story, even if it is a thin story that has nothing to do with the song.

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                                                • alm4n
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                                                  • Apr 2003
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                                                  #13
                                                  I enjoyed the short guitar solo near the end
                                                  .

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                                                    • uno
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                                                      #14
                                                      The music was ok, the outfits were pretty horrible(except for the misfits shirt), and i agree with the one person here about some of the close-ups. Aside from that, it was pretty good. Could probably use more panning shots around the band(a la godsmack videos for ex.)
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                                                        • Dugmor
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                                                          • Jan 2002
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
                                                          There is no storyline in this video, just members of a rock band playing their instrument. You need to spice it up with story, even if it is a thin story that has nothing to do with the song.

                                                          That was the first edit, We have to still edit in the shots of the car and the girl .
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                                                            • gothweb
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                                                              • Jun 2002
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                                                              #16
                                                              I liked it. Enjoyed watching it all the way through, actually.

                                                              A few thoughts, though...

                                                              1.) The video looked overexposed at times. Flipping between different exposures of the same basic scene looks even worse than having a bad exposure.

                                                              2.) Some things were hard to judge given the medium. (WMV isn't exactly clear.) I would like to see more visual detail, and see if the audio synch is any good.

                                                              3.) It's all the same scene. I think for a first video, a simple performance like that is great. I would have edited in some outdoor scenes, probably with a bright blue muscle car, given the chance.

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                                                                • uno
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                                                                  • Dec 2002
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Dugmor



                                                                  That was the first edit, We have to still edit in the shots of the car and the girl .
                                                                  Wow, get that girl in there as soon as possible.
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                                                                    • demented
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                                                                      • Dec 2002
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Little blue hurricane?

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                                                                        • KidCock
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                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                          • 788
                                                                          #19
                                                                          The close-ups of the lead singer's face are kind of weird, but not in a good way. He doesn't look very professional.

                                                                          Some of the fades from frame to frame don't look that smooth (though could just be in windows media player)

                                                                          I don't like the set for this kind of music/video, the costumes are great though.

                                                                          Pyro from the guitar is cool.

                                                                          Besides that only other thing I can notice was the audio/visual synching as people already told you...

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                                                                            • Jamdin
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                                                                              • Jan 2001
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              I have to say that I love the song & the concept so much that I put up a link to the website on Jamdin's Dream Realm

                                                                              I love the green guitar and the outfits. The pace of the video fits with the pace of the song: fast. I didn't mind the fact that there was no Hawaiian babe.

                                                                              Great vocals (I could actually hear the words over the instruments) and great riffs. I hope Paradise goes to the top

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                                                                                • slaphappy
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                                                                                  • Oct 2002
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Dugmor



                                                                                  That was the first edit, We have to still edit in the shots of the car and the girl .

                                                                                  When will the video of the girl be edited and uploaded?

                                                                                  In all seriousness. The video is not bad. Most of the suggestions I was going to make have been pointed out. Other than that, good job!

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                                                                                    • Dugmor
                                                                                      The Traffic Cowboy
                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                      • 7687
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by gothweb
                                                                                      I liked it. Enjoyed watching it all the way through, actually.

                                                                                      A few thoughts, though...

                                                                                      1.) The video looked overexposed at times. Flipping between different exposures of the same basic scene looks even worse than having a bad exposure.

                                                                                      2.) Some things were hard to judge given the medium. (WMV isn't exactly clear.) I would like to see more visual detail, and see if the audio synch is any good.

                                                                                      3.) It's all the same scene. I think for a first video, a simple performance like that is great. I would have edited in some outdoor scenes, probably with a bright blue muscle car, given the chance.








                                                                                      Thanks for the comments. We wanted to focus more on the band than use a big story line. Since the band is kind of retro 80's glam rock we wanted to give it that 80's rock video low budget feel. We used a Dodge Swinger with a 340 engine as the musclecar and one of my girl friends Jessica Lee Ann as the beauty. We used a steady cam for some of the shots as you can see in the pictures.
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                                                                                        • Paul Markham
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                                                                                          • Jun 2001
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Production wise it looked fine, except for the over exposure. Either go way over and make it look deliberate or get it right.

                                                                                          But is was just a rock band in a room, maybe filming it someone's garage would have given it a twist.



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                                                                                            • Dugmor
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                                                                                              • Jan 2002
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by charly
                                                                                              Production wise it looked fine, except for the over exposure. Either go way over and make it look deliberate or get it right.

                                                                                              But is was just a rock band in a room, maybe filming it someone's garage would have given it a twist.
                                                                                              Thanks for the comments charly....... I repect your opinion coming from a pro photographer. I agree we may have burnt some of the image using the kino flo lighting. We also used a lot of make up to try to give the musicians that party worn image in there faces.

                                                                                              We where going to use a real garage but we did'nt want there to be gasoline present with the pyro tec's. We where also wanted to shoot it and have it edited for there opening European Tour.
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                                                                                                • SleazyDream
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                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  sweet
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                                                                                                    • DeanCapture
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                                                                                                      • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      That was cool - really enjoyed it - you guys used a ring-light for some of that stuff?

                                                                                                      I noticed a couple of cuts where the camera lens barn-door accidently snuck into the right side of the frame.

                                                                                                      Good stuff though -

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                                                                                                        • Dugmor
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                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by DeanCapture
                                                                                                          That was cool - really enjoyed it - you guys used a ring-light for some of that stuff?

                                                                                                          I noticed a couple of cuts where the camera lens barn-door accidently snuck into the right side of the frame.

                                                                                                          Good stuff though -

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                                                                                                          Thanks for taking the time to look at our work Dean, I really need the feedback from the pro's like yourself.
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                                                                                                            • NBDesign
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Musically, I really like it but you really need a new look.....

                                                                                                              That glitter shit went out witht he 80's.....

                                                                                                              Seriously, change you look and I think you will do very well.

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                                                                                                                • Dugmor
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                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by NBDesign
                                                                                                                  Musically, I really like it but you really need a new look.....

                                                                                                                  That glitter shit went out witht he 80's.....

                                                                                                                  Seriously, change you look and I think you will do very well.


                                                                                                                  THANK YOU so much ! .............I guess you didn't take the time to read anything of the text in this thread and only looked at the video and pictures. That cheezy 80's look is exactly what we where trying to get. The band is a retro cheesy 80's rock band.
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                                                                                                                    • 421Fill
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      I'm not a video pro, but I thought it was really good.

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                                                                                                                        • NBDesign
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Dugmor




                                                                                                                          THANK YOU so much ! .............I guess you didn't take the time to read anything of the text in this thread and only looked at the video and pictures. That cheezy 80's look is exactly what we where trying to get. The band is a retro cheesy 80's rock band.
                                                                                                                          U R correct.... sorry...

                                                                                                                          So if you are trying to get the 80's rock thing.... how come all you guys have short hair? Let it grow man.... or get wigs...

                                                                                                                          Other than that... most excellent! I wish you all the best!

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                                                                                                                            • smack
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              not bad, i couldn't get the sound on it. you might wanna loose the elvis funeral suit though. nice set of ludwigs your drummer got.
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                                                                                                                                • asuna
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                                                                                                                                  • May 2002
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  heh, your sites are pretty cool.. but I think I should send this clip to Dollar Clip on musique plus....

                                                                                                                                  sorry Easton and Dugmor

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                                                                                                                                    • SABAI
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Dirty_DS
                                                                                                                                      nice man.... I dig the drummers shirt... the misfits are my fav band ....
                                                                                                                                      damn i was gonna post that, i have this T shirt.

                                                                                                                                      the editing is ok, but just get rid of the large ensemble shots they are too static compared to the rythm of the editing thats all i can say except that in my humble director's opinion i would have done something other than filming the band on a stage but this is just a personal view.


                                                                                                                                      good job guys , by the way hit me up on icq if you come around paris this summer

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                                                                                                                                        • Angelonfire
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          DUgmor you are full of suprises arent you ? Win*


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                                                                                                                                            • Helix
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                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2002
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Nice job,
                                                                                                                                              A bit overexposed for a few frames, and the rapid in/out zoom
                                                                                                                                              disrupted the flow for me but over all very nice.

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                                                                                                                                                • SL|M!
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by gothweb
                                                                                                                                                  I liked it. Enjoyed watching it all the way through, actually.

                                                                                                                                                  2.) Some things were hard to judge given the medium. (WMV isn't exactly clear.) I would like to see more visual detail, and see if the audio synch is any good.
                                                                                                                                                  Yeah the .WMV compression doesnt do it justice. When you look at it on a regular tv it looks alot better. Those 80's band are really big in Europe, the video is almost a shoe in for MTV Europe when it comes out.

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                                                                                                                                                    • SABAI
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      the overxposure is not a problem it can be fixed in post production anyway

                                                                                                                                                      how do you say "etalonnnage" in english?

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                                                                                                                                                        • SL|M!
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by SABAI
                                                                                                                                                          the overxposure is not a problem it can be fixed in post production anyway

                                                                                                                                                          how do you say "etalonnnage" in english?
                                                                                                                                                          That overexposure gives it a cool look when you look at it on a regular TV, well thats my . But we will sit down with the editor and director of photography and see what they think. Like you said, color corrections and ajusting the overexposure isnt really difficult to do in post-prod.

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                                                                                                                                                            • rowan
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                                                                                                                                                              Just adding in my bit, the video looks great, but one thing that bothers me a little: there are a couple of cuts between two angles of the lead singer where it's obvious they were from separate takes. His expression changes completely between those two shots - but it's a matter of milliseconds in the video... Maybe put something in between them?

                                                                                                                                                              I actually enjoyed the music too for some strange reason.

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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Very nice for your first outing Dugmor! The band has a cool image you could play with so it made it even more interesting. The only thing I would suggest is to make sure you get at least 5 different treatments for the video before you start shooting in the future. I have overseen 15 major label videos so far and the only thing that ensures we don't waste money is making sure the treatment we start with is entertaining or at least different.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • SL|M!
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by rowan
                                                                                                                                                                      Just adding in my bit, the video looks great, but one thing that bothers me a little: there are a couple of cuts between two angles of the lead singer where it's obvious they were from separate takes. His expression changes completely between those two shots - but it's a matter of milliseconds in the video... Maybe put something in between them?

                                                                                                                                                                      I actually enjoyed the music too for some strange reason.
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                                                                                                                                                                        • BabeHunter
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          looking good man
                                                                                                                                                                          pretty good song too
                                                                                                                                                                          Yep

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                                                                                                                                                                            • SABAI
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                                                                                                                                                              Very nice for your first outing Dugmor! The band has a cool image you could play with so it made it even more interesting. The only thing I would suggest is to make sure you get at least 5 different treatments for the video before you start shooting in the future. I have overseen 15 major label videos so far and the only thing that ensures we don't waste money is making sure the treatment we start with is entertaining or at least different.

                                                                                                                                                                              totally agree about that

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                                                                                                                                                                                • s9ann0
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  are they taking the piss ?

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Brat
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      i saw the drummer on st laurent street in a grocery store a little while ago...


                                                                                                                                                                                      wasnt he in another group ? CAFFEINE?

                                                                                                                                                                                      i know this guy's face from anywhere.. it'll be odd if someone looks exactly like him.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Brat
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          ok..

                                                                                                                                                                                          so yeh it is him..

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                                                                                                                                                                                          why is a drummer now?

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                                                                                                                                                                                          oh well.

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