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  • Forest
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2001
    • 9135

    #1

    Biggest Scam in Adult History?

    Ibill? Epass? Babenet? There have been so many
  • CaptainHowdy
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Dec 2004
    • 94733

    #2
    Epassporte was a certifiable pandemonium . . .

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    • TheLegacy
      SEO & GEO Connoisseur
      • Apr 2003
      • 18078

      #3
      Excellent question - ya I remember the days of IBill and Epass.. wasnt pretty

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      • datingmaster
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2024
        • 254

        #4
        datetronix?

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        • Christianx
          Rubber Duck Collector
          • Sep 2005
          • 159

          #5
          Bluebird Films
          WWW.PUREMEDIAENTERPRISES.COM

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          • Publisher Bucks
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2018
            • 1330

            #6
            'Credit Card for Verification'.
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            • Huggles
              GFY'S #1 retard
              • Feb 2003
              • 12509

              #7
              DeeCash pre-checked cross sales.

              Sales dropped for a year after that happened!
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              • Simon Arthur
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                • Aug 2025
                • 53

                #8
                Can you give me more details?

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                • blackmonsters
                  Making PHP work
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 20966

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Huggles
                  pre-checked cross sales.
                  People should have gone to prison for that shit.

                  And people wonder why governments are attacking online porn.
                  How many government officials had to do charge backs for their own porn signups?

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                  • Forest
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2001
                    • 9135

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Huggles
                    DeeCash pre-checked cross sales.

                    Sales dropped for a year after that happened!
                    That was a scam on the surfer and everyone was doing it. I’m taking scam on the industry.

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                    • fuzebox
                      making it rain
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 22352

                      #11
                      Prechecked cross sales built this industry. Adult companies were running xsales a decade before Deecash even started.

                      Most people in this thread sent (and still send) traffic to companies that do it. If you sell ads, that is where a lot of the revenue comes from.

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                      • Kelli58
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 2253

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Christianx
                        Bluebird Films
                        That only affected a handful of people he fucked over. For the industry as a whole maybe epass and ibill tied.
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                        • Forest
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                          • Aug 2001
                          • 9135

                          #13
                          Originally posted by fuzebox
                          Prechecked cross sales built this industry. Adult companies were running xsales a decade before Deecash even started.

                          Most people in this thread sent (and still send) traffic to companies that do it. If you sell ads, that is where a lot of the revenue comes from.
                          Only way programs could pay out those huge numbers. I avg 125.00 on a dating joint in 2008. No other way to make that back on a avg 45 day membership without them.

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                          • Forest
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                            • Aug 2001
                            • 9135

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Kelli58
                            That only affected a handful of people he fucked over. For the industry as a whole maybe epass and ibill tied.
                            And how much money was made from the Ibill list after they were gone?

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                            • xxxclusive
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 785

                              #15
                              the big tubes

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                              • Huggles
                                GFY'S #1 retard
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 12509

                                #16
                                Originally posted by fuzebox
                                Prechecked cross sales built this industry. Adult companies were running xsales a decade before Deecash even started.

                                Most people in this thread sent (and still send) traffic to companies that do it. If you sell ads, that is where a lot of the revenue comes from.
                                I had a guy track me down through one of my watermarked domains I was using to promote DeeCash and he threatened my life because his first charge on his $1 trial was something insane like $400 he told me. I can't remember it was so long ago.

                                From my hazy memory, the way this was different was that the prices of the cross sale were in super fine print and were absolutely massive in price. He was banging the credit cards from overseas and just blatantly ripping people off. Do you remember how it went down? It was so long ago, like 2006 I think? Fucking sales tanked for a long time on galleries after that. It was massively noticible.
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                                • ross bleustein
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                                  • Jul 2015
                                  • 233

                                  #17
                                  cross sales

                                  Pre-checked cross sales to me was a way to earn money from the scammers who did Fraudulent chargebacks that would cost three times the actual sale

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                                  • mechanicvirus
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 4219

                                    #18
                                    It's not well known but Perfect 10 tried to sue way above it's weight, not even around anymore. They tried to sue EVERYONE.

                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_10_(magazine)

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                                    • randomuser33
                                      God
                                      • Dec 2001
                                      • 23

                                      #19
                                      Jesus Dialer.

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                                      • Kelli58
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Aug 2006
                                        • 2253

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by mechanicvirus
                                        It's not well known but Perfect 10 tried to sue way above it's weight, not even around anymore. They tried to sue EVERYONE.

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_10_(magazine)
                                        ... by 2015, the company had filed 20 to 30 lawsuits.[4][5]

                                        Uhhh I know companies that file like 200 a month.

                                        But that aside, how is someone trying to protect their assets, an adult industry scam?
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                                        • mechanicvirus
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                                          • Feb 2005
                                          • 4219

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Kelli58
                                          ... by 2015, the company had filed 20 to 30 lawsuits.[4][5]

                                          Uhhh I know companies that file like 200 a month.

                                          But that aside, how is someone trying to protect their assets, an adult industry scam?
                                          Name the companies in porn you know that files 200 lawsuits in a single month every month.

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                                          • Rochard
                                            Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                            • Dec 2001
                                            • 75733

                                            #22
                                            magic join links

                                            lol.

                                            Rip.
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                                            Brooklyn, NY

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                                            • Forest
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2001
                                              • 9135

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Rochard
                                              magic join links

                                              lol.

                                              Rip.
                                              Paul and I were friends but that was some funny shit. 😂😂

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                                              • Kelli58
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2006
                                                • 2253

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by mechanicvirus
                                                Name the companies in porn you know that files 200 lawsuits in a single month every month.
                                                I mean the first one that comes to mind would be Vixen. There are two others that are well that are just as litigious to protect their copyrights.
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                                                • natkejs
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                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                  • 1640

                                                  #25
                                                  lost a few bucks with globill, but other than that never been scammed in the industry.

                                                  epass comes to mind though, I remember some dude killing himself which came off as pretty hardcore in our little industry back then.

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                                                  • TubesBooster
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                                                    • Oct 2024
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                                                    #26
                                                    epassporte
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                                                    • Publisher Bucks
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                                                      • Oct 2018
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                                                      #27
                                                      Suprised nobody mentioned Acacia yet, they made millions scamming the industry…
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                                                      • Major (Tom)
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                        • 32492

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Huggles
                                                        DeeCash pre-checked cross sales.

                                                        Sales dropped for a year after that happened!
                                                        Did you know that his site after deecash was nomorerack.com ? Now it’s just full of after pics of top surgeries

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                                                        • EddyTheDog
                                                          Just Doing My Own Thing
                                                          • Jan 2011
                                                          • 25433

                                                          #29
                                                          As we are talking pre-checked sales then you have to talk about 12Clicks - That guy is a piece of work - I remember once there was a hidden pre-checked cross sale on a porn site for a children's gaming site - lol...

                                                          Sorry Forest - I know that wasn't the question - It's just that story always makes me laugh.....

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                                                          • Forest
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                            • 9135

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Major (Tom)
                                                            Did you know that his site after deecash was nomorerack.com ? Now it’s just full of after pics of top surgeries
                                                            I remember a story about Dee. When he wanted to travel and go gambling he would bang cards for 1.00 for his gambling money. Millions 😂😂

                                                            He paid to have former president Bush at some event in Canada.

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                                                            • Huggles
                                                              GFY'S #1 retard
                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                              • 12509

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Forest
                                                              I remember a story about Dee. When he wanted to travel and go gambling he would bang cards for 1.00 for his gambling money. Millions 😂😂


                                                              I literally got harassing phone calls in the middle of the night from some dude in the USA who thought I had scammed him and he said he was going to fly to Canada and get me. He calmed down eventually and realized it wasn't me. Also had a bunch of angry emails over at goldgalleries.com and platinumgalleries.com from surfers because my whois was public.

                                                              Hate to stereotype but literally every event in my life where someone got scammed it has involved an Indian person! My Indian landlord tried to scam me just this summer when his phone was hacked and my etransfer for rent was intercepted by a "hacker" and then when I told him, "sorry, that's on you and your phone security" he told me "the money never was in my bank account, this is a you problem!" Like somehow his phone being hacked and the thief knowing the landlord well enough to guess the password is my fault.

                                                              Holy fuck, then when I worked managing a pallet yard before COVID, an Indian guy gave us a fake bank draft that looked 100% real to my boss and he foolishly accepted it without going to the bank first. Never saw or heard from them again, $20,000+ dollar load of repaired pallets vanished! Then back in like 2014-2015, I had been working on a compact automatic joint-roller the size of a like a portable hard disk drive... and the small devices engineer I hired with a friend took off with the seed money to build the first prototype, like $1200!

                                                              But hey... butter chicken is soooooo good... I don't actually mind. You take the Ws with the Ls in life.
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                                                              • mechanicvirus
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                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                • 4219

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Kelli58
                                                                I mean the first one that comes to mind would be Vixen. There are two others that are well that are just as litigious to protect their copyrights.
                                                                Do you know of the other companies at all? I know X-art was doing a lot of lawsuits at one point.

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                                                                • Jman
                                                                  Already an AI veteran
                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                  • 22838

                                                                  #33
                                                                  sex.com early days was the biggest CC fraud, I am sure you know ;)
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                                                                  • Forest
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                                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                                    • 9135

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Jman
                                                                    sex.com early days was the biggest CC fraud, I am sure you know ;)
                                                                    Ahh the sex.com drama. Those were the days 😂

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                                                                    • datingmaster
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                                                                      • Jan 2024
                                                                      • 254

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Forest
                                                                      I remember a story about Dee. When he wanted to travel and go gambling he would bang cards for 1.00 for his gambling money. Millions ����

                                                                      He paid to have former president Bush at some event in Canada.
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                                                                      • JayMoyes
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jul 2006
                                                                        • 319

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Publisher Bucks
                                                                        Suprised nobody mentioned Acacia yet, they made millions scamming the industry…
                                                                        SOMEBODY WENT THERE!!! This was like THE big scam Adult Video News was covering when I worked at AVN.

                                                                        And it came up as a red flag when Sherry and I got suckered into working with an "Adult Investment" guy. Somehow Acacia came up in conversation and kinda fondly, he was like "oh yeah, I knew that guy..."

                                                                        We should have dropped the SOB like a hot rock right there but it was September of 2008 and things were really tight. Overlooking that and a couple of other red flags almost cost us the house too. January 2009 I still remember the bastard on the phone screaming in panic for Sherry and I keep working for him.
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                                                                        • Jman
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                                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                                          • 22838

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Forest
                                                                          Ahh the sex.com drama. Those were the days 😂
                                                                          Some people became millionaires, but we will leave it at that
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                                                                          • Forest
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                                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                                            • 9135

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Jman
                                                                            Some people became millionaires, but we will leave it at that
                                                                            And very few people here today have no idea who.

                                                                            😂😂

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                                                                            • marcop
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Nov 2005
                                                                              • 4150

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Publisher Bucks
                                                                              Suprised nobody mentioned Acacia yet, they made millions scamming the industry…
                                                                              Those fuckers sent me a demand for money when the only website I had was my cat's, and all the content on the site was still images. Their patent was a joke, and eventually invalidated.

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                                                                              • Huggles
                                                                                GFY'S #1 retard
                                                                                • Feb 2003
                                                                                • 12509

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Acacia... were those the people who claimed to have the patent on streaming or hosting video or something? I think I remember they emailed me...
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                                                                                • Rochard
                                                                                  Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                  • 75733

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Forest
                                                                                  Paul and I were friends but that was some funny shit. 😂😂
                                                                                  I never liked Paul and never liked his content. We had never met until years after the Magic Join links. We met up in Prague; The only mail reason he attended was to sit down with me. He was a nice enough guy I guess.

                                                                                  RIP.
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                                                                                  • Major (Tom)
                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                                    • 32492

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Huggles
                                                                                    Acacia... were those the people who claimed to have the patent on streaming or hosting video or something? I think I remember they emailed me...
                                                                                    It was called Acacia, btw.

                                                                                    What about Zango

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                                                                                    • emmasexytime
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                                                                                      • Jan 2015
                                                                                      • 4512

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Jman
                                                                                      Some people became millionaires, but we will leave it at that
                                                                                      And they are no longer on here
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                                                                                      • VikingMan
                                                                                        Exploiting human weakness
                                                                                        • Jan 2008
                                                                                        • 6861

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Hands down children! The biggest scam in adult was not a person , or a company, nor was it a sketchy billing procedure.

                                                                                        The biggest scam in adult history was a dental procedure.

                                                                                        Chris Malik scammed a NASA scientist., the Webmaster community, and many Hollywood stars. His secret weapon was his flaming white veneers. It transfixed you sheep like high beams transfix a deer.

                                                                                        I swear to God, I saw him driving his BMW in Marina del Rey and I recognized him by his teeth from a good distance away.

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                                                                                        • Jman
                                                                                          Already an AI veteran
                                                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                                                          • 22838

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by emmasexytime
                                                                                          And they are no longer on here
                                                                                          You would be surprised
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                                                                                          • shimmy2
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                                                                                            • Mar 2009
                                                                                            • 3271

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by VikingMan
                                                                                            Hands down children! The biggest scam in adult was not a person , or a company, nor was it a sketchy billing procedure.

                                                                                            The biggest scam in adult history was a dental procedure.

                                                                                            Chris Malik scammed a NASA scientist., the Webmaster community, and many Hollywood stars. His secret weapon was his flaming white veneers. It transfixed you sheep like high beams transfix a deer.

                                                                                            I swear to God, I saw him driving his BMW in Marina del Rey and I recognized him by his teeth from a good distance away.
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                                                                                              • CaptainHowdy
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Dec 2004
                                                                                                • 94733

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by VikingMan
                                                                                                Hands down children! The biggest scam in adult was not a person , or a company, nor was it a sketchy billing procedure.

                                                                                                The biggest scam in adult history was a dental procedure.

                                                                                                Chris Malik scammed a NASA scientist., the Webmaster community, and many Hollywood stars. His secret weapon was his flaming white veneers. It transfixed you sheep like high beams transfix a deer.

                                                                                                I swear to God, I saw him driving his BMW in Marina del Rey and I recognized him by his teeth from a good distance away.
                                                                                                Like moths to the flame with those shiny dentures . . .

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                                                                                                  #49
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