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  • asorelli
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2024
    • 464
    #51
    FIDDY MILLION FAKES

    Originally posted by mainstreammix
    You are literally the dumbest asshole around here. Either you are doing a damn good job of trolling as one dumb MF or you need some milk.

    https://www.facebook.com/reel/1571836240444753

    And if we used average affiliate earnings to decide if affiliate programs are good your results would sandbag everyone.
    You're just big mad I made you look like an idiot, AGAIN! How those baby videos working for ya?

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      • mainstreammix
        Make GFY Great Again
        • May 2022
        • 11191
        #52
        Man you got the top secret Discord rolling.



        Stop asking me about AI, the answer is yes.

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          • NatalieK
            Natalie K
            • Apr 2010
            • 20110
            #53
            10% of OF are on 2k monthly & above, the 20% are earning $500 & above a month, 30% of OF earn over $200 a month & then decreases rapidly to less than $50 a month from under 40%...

            half of the OF models earn less than $50 a month!


            This is fact from self earnings & personally have only been between the 10% & 30% myself, usually running at about 30%.

            I know for fact, from other models, anyone less than 50% don´t earn enough to be creating on OF...

            it´s only the top 5% earning big bucks
            My official site / Custom vids / Make money links / First time girls
            Email: [email protected] - "Converting traffic into income since 2005"

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              • xxxclusive
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2012
                • 785
                #54
                Originally posted by NatalieK
                10% of OF are on 2k monthly & above, the 20% are earning $500 & above a month, 30% of OF earn over $200 a month & then decreases rapidly to less than $50 a month from under 40%...

                half of the OF models earn less than $50 a month!


                This is fact from self earnings & personally have only been between the 10% & 30% myself, usually running at about 30%.

                I know for fact, from other models, anyone less than 50% don´t earn enough to be creating on OF...

                it´s only the top 5% earning big bucks
                This and every successful one is managed by an agency and has to give away 50%. Plus we have to consider that all growth ends and saturation kicks in (like in classic and cam), the last turnover figures are from 2023. But the amount of creators already increase from 3.2 to over 4 million.

                Once the size of the cake is set the single pieces for each one get even smaller.

                Also conservative politics will take care further of OF as it's a big red flag in their eyes.

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                  • mainstreammix
                    Make GFY Great Again
                    • May 2022
                    • 11191
                    #55
                    Originally posted by xxxclusive
                    This and every successful one is managed by an agency and has to give away 50%. Plus we have to consider that all growth ends and saturation kicks in (like in classic and cam), the last turnover figures are from 2023. But the amount of creators already increase from 3.2 to over 4 million.

                    Once the size of the cake is set the single pieces for each one get even smaller.

                    Also conservative politics will take care further of OF as it's a big red flag in their eyes.
                    What a load of cope. No, every successful OF creator is not managed by an agency, you are not as important as you think.

                    She don't need you bro.
                    Stop asking me about AI, the answer is yes.

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                      • xxxclusive
                        Confirmed User
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 785
                        #56
                        Originally posted by mainstreammix
                        What a load of cope. No, every successful OF creator is not managed by an agency, you are not as important as you think.

                        She don't need you bro.
                        It's normal market development, as you never saw a business school from inside you pretending troll can't know this of course.

                        Fucked some 1% models and shot content with them for their OF, they have tens of thousands users who want to chat daily with them, it's only possible with agency chatters.

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                          • mainstreammix
                            Make GFY Great Again
                            • May 2022
                            • 11191
                            #57
                            Originally posted by xxxclusive
                            It's normal market development, as you never saw a business school from inside you pretending troll can't know this of course.

                            Fucked some 1% models and shot content with them for their OF, they have tens of thousands users who want to chat daily with them, it's only possible with agency chatters.
                            False. I have taught models how to generate their own funds for more than 20 years and not once ever in history used, needed or even recommended trying some dog shit agency run by a pompous ass guy like you.
                            Stop asking me about AI, the answer is yes.

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                              • xxxclusive
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 785
                                #58
                                Originally posted by mainstreammix
                                False. I have taught models how to generate their own funds for more than 20 years and not once ever in history used, needed or even recommended trying some dog shit agency run by a pompous ass guy like you.
                                20 years and so clueless? You sound like you are just 20 years old max, are you allowed to drink alc already?

                                Sure, your trailer park or Kensington Ave tier thots with their couple dozen simps don't need agencies. But attractive models with 1000's of fans need chatters, social media managers and pro content prods as they don't have the time and nerves to chat with 1000s of simps daily.

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                                  • mainstreammix
                                    Make GFY Great Again
                                    • May 2022
                                    • 11191
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by xxxclusive
                                    20 years and so clueless? You sound like you are just 20 years old max, are you allowed to drink alc already?

                                    Sure, your trailer park or Kensington Ave tier thots with their couple dozen simps don't need agencies. But attractive models with 1000's of fans need chatters, social media managers and pro content prods as they don't have the time and nerves to chat with 1000s of simps daily.
                                    There is automation that doesn't involve your goofy ass.

                                    Stick to shooting cheap models and learn to not talk straight out of your ass. I have ONLY promoted amateur style content for decades now, nobody needs your dumb ass opinion with your fake shit content. You guys haven't learned to shoot what is interesting in a business that thrives on real. To this day not a single content provider has legitimate amateur content that can be used on socials or to promote cams or OF style content. Imagine being so pompous you think you know better than the backbone of this industry.
                                    Stop asking me about AI, the answer is yes.

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                                      • xxxclusive
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Oct 2012
                                        • 785
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by mainstreammix
                                        There is automation that doesn't involve your goofy ass.

                                        Stick to shooting cheap models and learn to not talk straight out of your ass. I have ONLY promoted amateur style content for decades now, nobody needs your dumb ass opinion with your fake shit content. You guys haven't learned to shoot what is interesting in a business that thrives on real. To this day not a single content provider has legitimate amateur content that can be used on socials or to promote cams or OF style content. Imagine being so pompous you think you know better than the backbone of this industry.
                                        There is AI chat software now and guess who runs them, kiddo? Also agencies, as most girls are not smart enough to use software.

                                        You are likely a kid who once did $1000 pocket money with refering cam models and now pretends to be the "backbone" on gfy. Pompous? You suffer from projection.

                                        And what's your obsession with raging against content creators?

                                        I can tell you good content with top girls always sells.

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                                          • Mr Pheer
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Dec 2002
                                            • 22083
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by xxxclusive
                                            There is AI chat software now and guess who runs them, kiddo? Also agencies, as most girls are not smart enough to use software.

                                            You are likely a kid who once did $1000 pocket money with refering cam models and now pretends to be the "backbone" on gfy. Pompous? You suffer from projection.

                                            And what's your obsession with raging against content creators?

                                            I can tell you good content with top girls always sells.
                                            I used to fight with the guy over the top positions on the clickcash webmaster list, consistently for a couple years. With him and me posting in here now, plus fuzebox, you've got three guys in here now that have made over a million on webcams alone. Bring in WiredGuy and you get four.

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                                              • mechanicvirus
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2005
                                                • 4219
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                                                I used to fight with the guy over the top positions on the clickcash webmaster list, consistently for a couple years. With him and me posting in here now, plus fuzebox, you've got three guys in here now that have made over a million on webcams alone. Bring in WiredGuy and you get four.

                                                Hey what about us who made millions pushing the stupidest fucking "non-nude" content before boomers figured out how to goon on onlyfans.

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                                                  • Mr Pheer
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                    • 22083
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by mechanicvirus
                                                    Hey what about us who made millions pushing the stupidest fucking "non-nude" content before boomers figured out how to goon on onlyfans.

                                                    I don't know you. I don't know what you've done therefore i don't mention it

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                                                      • mainstreammix
                                                        Make GFY Great Again
                                                        • May 2022
                                                        • 11191
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                                                        I don't know you. I don't know what you've done therefore i don't mention it
                                                        Ignoring the dollar amounts I'm confident you know that

                                                        a) Promo material for amateur stuff has always needlessly sucked and most promotional content misses the mark.

                                                        b) There is a fortune to be made in cams / actual amateurs pushing "their own" content regardless of whether or not either of us do it.

                                                        c) You can automate an effective chatbot if you really want to. My AOL bot from me manually editing response trees on that script the teen whiz kid made way back was not detected by surfers.

                                                        My landers weren't even nude, which made it extra fun.
                                                        Stop asking me about AI, the answer is yes.

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                                                          • Mr Pheer
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                            • 22083
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by mainstreammix
                                                            Ignoring the dollar amounts I'm confident you know that

                                                            a) Promo material for amateur stuff has always needlessly sucked and most promotional content misses the mark.

                                                            b) There is a fortune to be made in cams / actual amateurs pushing "their own" content regardless of whether or not either of us do it.

                                                            c) You can automate an effective chatbot if you really want to. My AOL bot from me manually editing response trees on that script the teen whiz kid made way back was not detected by surfers.

                                                            My landers weren't even nude, which made it extra fun.
                                                            After about a week of rseponding manually, I had developed several scripts. It was easy to figure out the process... all scripts said the same shit, just in many different ways. Was never detected for spam because it was so damn random... 450+ domains with some creative fucking error handling, massive IP spread from GotWebHost/Mojo and i ran 1000+ bots at all times, running on 20 machines at home. A peeker bot in the chat feeding the usernames to the outside bots.

                                                            Poor fuckers would join a chat and then "You've got mail!" to fucking death... Rinse and repeat on MSN and Yahoo.

                                                            My big ifriend landers were pages I made for Kristen Bronu and that Lori Anderson chic that used to post here. i must have sent her several hundred thousand visitors to her profile but not a single thank you

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                                                              • mechanicvirus
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                • 4219
                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                                                                I don't know you. I don't know what you've done therefore i don't mention it
                                                                No worries, the standard has been set now.

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                                                                  • xxxclusive
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Oct 2012
                                                                    • 785
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Nowhere is so much lied as with the amount of money and women

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                                                                      • Mr Pheer
                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                                        • 22083
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by xxxclusive
                                                                        Nowhere is so much lied as with the amount of money and women
                                                                        I have no reason for that. I made far more in cams than i did in dating, and i can easily show you a screenshot from today showing just one of my dating affiliate accounts with 7 figures paid out. An account that I havent really sent traffic to for quite a while.

                                                                        I stopped doing cams in 2004 and went almost exclusively dating, except for a little $80k run I did to PussyCash over three months in 2014. I havent really sent any dating traffic since 2020, I was pretty sick for a while and when I got better I just didn't do anything adult anymore. All of my old domains just refresh to AFF now until they eventually expire.

                                                                        It may be embarrassing to you to be proved wrong, so I'm just asking if you really want to see.

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                                                                          • mainstreammix
                                                                            Make GFY Great Again
                                                                            • May 2022
                                                                            • 11191
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                                                                            After about a week of rseponding manually, I had developed several scripts. It was easy to figure out the process... all scripts said the same shit, just in many different ways. Was never detected for spam because it was so damn random... 450+ domains with some creative fucking error handling, massive IP spread from GotWebHost/Mojo and i ran 1000+ bots at all times, running on 20 machines at home. A peeker bot in the chat feeding the usernames to the outside bots.

                                                                            Poor fuckers would join a chat and then "You've got mail!" to fucking death... Rinse and repeat on MSN and Yahoo.

                                                                            My big ifriend landers were pages I made for Kristen Bronu and that Lori Anderson chic that used to post here. i must have sent her several hundred thousand visitors to her profile but not a single thank you
                                                                            I for sure saw your stuff, I just didn't know it was your stuff at the time.

                                                                            In 2001 I started my mornings by loading 30+ new AOL chatrooms with a similar "say close to the same thing" with a variety of options so by the time you ever saw a repeated line it was an hour later and they assume you're talking to the new guy. 24 hours a day of undetected "chat."

                                                                            No links, just a little teaser text in the profile and a link to a fake but operational profile type site that pushed cams hard AF. I think it was 2003 before I got big into Yahoo and 90% was not the chatrooms you were pounding. I still remember logging in once a day to delete 50,000 messages from Indians sending "BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ" or wtf ever it was that shook your screen.

                                                                            When that AOL script added auto responders with a timer to IM's I was in heaven.
                                                                            Stop asking me about AI, the answer is yes.

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                                                                              • fuzebox
                                                                                making it rain
                                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                                • 22351
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                                                                                I made far more in cams than i did in dating
                                                                                I'm the opposite, I find cams a tough sell but dating is easy. All my cam sales are just upsells from dating.

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                                                                                  • mechanicvirus
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                                                    • 4219
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                                                                                    I have no reason for that. I made far more in cams than i did in dating, and i can easily show you a screenshot from today showing just one of my dating affiliate accounts with 7 figures paid out. An account that I havent really sent traffic to for quite a while.

                                                                                    I stopped doing cams in 2004 and went almost exclusively dating, except for a little $80k run I did to PussyCash over three months in 2014. I havent really sent any dating traffic since 2020, I was pretty sick for a while and when I got better I just didn't do anything adult anymore. All of my old domains just refresh to AFF now until they eventually expire.

                                                                                    It may be embarrassing to you to be proved wrong, so I'm just asking if you really want to see.
                                                                                    I've seen this tactic on GFY before. They try to get you to prove big revenues then hit you up endlessly about new ideas and other shit to invest in. He'll probably triple down on the replies based on what I said alone.

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                                                                                      • Mr Pheer
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                                                        • 22083
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by mechanicvirus
                                                                                        I've seen this tactic on GFY before. They try to get you to prove big revenues then hit you up endlessly about new ideas and other shit to invest in. He'll probably triple down on the replies based on what I said alone.
                                                                                        Well I'm retired so it ain't gonna work

                                                                                        xxxclusive, nobody here is lying to you bro

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                                                                                          • Mr Pheer
                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                                            • 22083
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                                            I'm the opposite, I find cams a tough sell but dating is easy. All my cam sales are just upsells from dating.
                                                                                            I could never convert any other cams like I could with ifriends, so when I walked away from that it was the end of cams for me. I just didn't spend any more time on it until 2014 for a quick backpage thingy. Or maybe 2013 I don't remember. The three months before backpage got shut down. The same year you saw me in Playe Del Carmen.

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                                                                                              • mainstreammix
                                                                                                Make GFY Great Again
                                                                                                • May 2022
                                                                                                • 11191
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                                                                                                I could never convert any other cams like I could with ifriends, so when I walked away from that it was the end of cams for me. I just didn't spend any more time on it until 2014 for a quick backpage thingy. Or maybe 2013 I don't remember. The three months before backpage got shut down. The same year you saw me in Playe Del Carmen.
                                                                                                Me either until Chaturbate, $1 vs $40+++. When they added revshare I only moved over a tiny % of my traffic and last time I counted years ago I was at $9 or $10 per join and still get checks today.
                                                                                                Stop asking me about AI, the answer is yes.

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                                                                                                  • Mr Pheer
                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                                                    • 22083
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by mainstreammix
                                                                                                    Me either until Chaturbate, $1 vs $40+++. When they added revshare I only moved over a tiny % of my traffic and last time I counted years ago I was at $9 or $10 per join and still get checks today.
                                                                                                    I couldn't even convert chaturbate

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                                                                                                      • Killswitch
                                                                                                        REVOLUTIONARY
                                                                                                        • Oct 2012
                                                                                                        • 2569
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        So many big dicks in here right now, if I were gay (I'm not) I would totally give you all handies (with my mouth)

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                                                                                                          • mainstreammix
                                                                                                            Make GFY Great Again
                                                                                                            • May 2022
                                                                                                            • 11191
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                                                                                                            I couldn't even convert chaturbate
                                                                                                            I snuck into some real amateur communities and they did all of the promoting naturally. I never tried the old methods on that one.
                                                                                                            Stop asking me about AI, the answer is yes.

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                                                                                                              • Mr Pheer
                                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                • 22083
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by Killswitch
                                                                                                                So many big dicks in here right now, if I were gay (I'm not) I would totally give you all handies (with my mouth)
                                                                                                                Not sure if I am excited or not. Call me.

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