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  • NatalieK
    Natalie K
    • Apr 2010
    • 20114

    #1

    1400% increase in signups on protonVPN

    Brits aren´t going to pay for AVS...

    https://mashable.com/article/proton-...cation-signups

    or is this nothing to do with money, & the whole AVS system is floored within the first weekend, with no one wanting to show Identity, or worse, under 18´s looking at porn?


    Either way, this could be the end of AVS, it´s gone before it´s started
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  • mainstreammix
    Make GFY Great Again
    • May 2022
    • 11191

    #2
    Why would they pay for it in the first place? It's the providers that pay not the viewers.
    Stop asking me about AI, the answer is yes.

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    • Marshal
      Biz Dev and SEO
      • Jun 2005
      • 15219

      #3
      The whole age verification idea is based on a flawed assumption. It's the parents' job to monitor what their kids are doing online - not the responsibility of content creators.

      Forcing websites to take on that role doesn't work, and isn't enforceable, especially when things like VPNs make it easy to bypass restrictions.
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      Busy ranking websites on Google...

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      • mainstreammix
        Make GFY Great Again
        • May 2022
        • 11191

        #4
        Originally posted by Marshal
        The whole age verification idea is based on a flawed assumption. It's the parents' job to monitor what their kids are doing online - not the responsibility of content creators.

        Forcing websites to take on that role doesn't work, and isn't enforceable, especially when things like VPNs make it easy to bypass restrictions.
        It's definitely enforceable and they are already working on just that.
        Stop asking me about AI, the answer is yes.

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        • asorelli
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2024
          • 464

          #5
          Originally posted by NatalieK
          Either way, this could be the end of AVS, it´s gone before it´s started
          Wishful thinking.

          Did you get any customers to bite the bullet yet and pay the fee?

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          • plsureking
            bored
            • Aug 2003
            • 4904

            #6
            UK is a communist country. they will ban VPN next, which is easily detectable.

            they don't want porn in the UK since it goes against sharia law.

            the total sales of porn in the UK is a pretty small percentage. the US laws are much more lenient. let the tubes fight over UK traffic.

            #
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            • NatalieK
              Natalie K
              • Apr 2010
              • 20114

              #7
              Originally posted by mainstreammix
              Why would they pay for it in the first place? It's the providers that pay not the viewers.
              Where did you see this rule

              We charge the viewer, a one time fee and they can view our sites...

              Originally posted by Marshal
              The whole age verification idea is based on a flawed assumption. It's the parents' job to monitor what their kids are doing online - not the responsibility of content creators.

              Forcing websites to take on that role doesn't work, and isn't enforceable, especially when things like VPNs make it easy to bypass restrictions.
              absolutely, it´s the parents responsibility

              Originally posted by mainstreammix
              It's definitely enforceable and they are already working on just that.
              yes, this is true

              Originally posted by asorelli
              Wishful thinking.

              Did you get any customers to bite the bullet yet and pay the fee?
              yes, we´ve had sales over the weekend, from both our websites & on platforms, Brits from the UK

              Originally posted by plsureking
              UK is a communist country. they will ban VPN next, which is easily detectable.

              they don't want porn in the UK since it goes against sharia law.

              the total sales of porn in the UK is a pretty small percentage. the US laws are much more lenient. let the tubes fight over UK traffic.

              #
              VPN will need to be banned if this continues, & yes, the UK, stealing freedom
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              • Roald
                SecretFriends.com
                • May 2001
                • 27910

                #8
                Awesome times for VPN companies. Send out PR's with crazy high increases and everybody will talk about it. Doesn't matter if it's rigth or not lmao.


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                • mainstreammix
                  Make GFY Great Again
                  • May 2022
                  • 11191

                  #9
                  Originally posted by NatalieK
                  Brits aren´t going to pay for AVS...

                  or is this nothing to do with money, & the whole AVS system is floored within the first weekend, with no one wanting to show Identity, or worse, under 18´s looking at porn?


                  Either way, this could be the end of AVS, it´s gone before it´s started
                  =====

                  Originally posted by NatalieK
                  Where did you see this rule

                  We charge the viewer, a one time fee and they can view our sites...
                  Putting a thumbs up after an insanely idiotic statement doesn't make it less stupid. If you're dealing with 3 customers with a personal connection you might get 2 to go pay for age verification but that's not how any of this works or will work in the future.

                  So your in a VPN thread saying that

                  1) Brits aren't going to pay for AVS.

                  2) This will end the AVS system as if it's not required by law.

                  3) You charge your own customers for AVS. (See 1)

                  Are you drunk or just talking out of your ass for funsies?

                  When a customer visits a porn site that uses Age Verification Services (AVS), the porn site (or its parent company) is the one who pays the AVS provider—not the customer.

                  Breakdown:
                  Porn Site Responsibility: Adult websites are legally responsible for ensuring their users meet age requirements. To comply with age verification laws, they integrate an AVS solution and pay for it—usually on a per-verification, monthly, or tiered usage basis.

                  AVS Business Model:

                  Some AVS providers charge per verification attempt.

                  Others offer flat monthly fees or enterprise contracts depending on traffic and risk.

                  The AVS provider may use methods like checking government ID, mobile phone verification, credit card validation, or third-party ID databases.

                  User Experience:

                  Users are typically not charged.

                  Some systems may ask the user to verify using a credit card (to prove age), but the AVS company or site is still the one covering backend costs.

                  In some regions, like the UK or EU, a government-regulated or centralized verification system may be used, still funded by sites or mandated platforms.

                  In short:
                  �� The porn site pays the AVS company.
                  Not the customer, unless the verification method involves a credit card charge (which is rare and often refunded).
                  Stop asking me about AI, the answer is yes.

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                  • NatalieK
                    Natalie K
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 20114

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mainstreammix
                    =====



                    Putting a thumbs up after an insanely idiotic statement doesn't make it less stupid. If you're dealing with 3 customers with a personal connection you might get 2 to go pay for age verification but that's not how any of this works or will work in the future.

                    So your in a VPN thread saying that

                    1) Brits aren't going to pay for AVS.

                    2) This will end the AVS system as if it's not required by law.

                    3) You charge your own customers for AVS. (See 1)

                    Are you drunk or just talking out of your ass for funsies?
                    already a huge petition has been signed and going to parliament...

                    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903

                    I´m saying that if people start using the VPN to avoid the AVS, it will end the AVS before it´s even got going...

                    Idiotic, no, just keeping it real. I see more smut on terrestrial TV these days, and nudity on the red carpet...

                    damn, music stars like Taylor Swift show so much body that´s not porn, and it´s meant for youth, I can see the AVS law being turned around & placing the situation to parental control, it should have been this way from the start...


                    why do your posts sound like you´re wanting AVS and against freedom?
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                    Email: [email protected] - "Converting traffic into income since 2005"

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                    • mainstreammix
                      Make GFY Great Again
                      • May 2022
                      • 11191

                      #11
                      The law isn't going away because people bypass it. And I've been using AVS to cash out from a casino for at least a year, people will use it when they really want but they damn sure won't pay for it.

                      The government goes after the sites regardless of what the customers do anyhow. Comply or die.
                      Stop asking me about AI, the answer is yes.

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                      • NatalieK
                        Natalie K
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 20114

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mainstreammix
                        The law isn't going away because people bypass it. And I've been using AVS to cash out from a casino for at least a year, people will use it when they really want but they damn sure won't pay for it.

                        The government goes after the sites regardless of what the customers do anyhow. Comply or die.
                        exactly as i´m doing, adapt or die, we´re here to stay in the adult business...

                        however, like people want to use VPN rather than AVS, there´s people that will pay for AVS and enjoy what they want to see. Besides, it´s only 2 quid for life, it´s not a massive problem
                        My official site / Custom vids / Make money links / First time girls
                        Email: [email protected] - "Converting traffic into income since 2005"

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                        • mainstreammix
                          Make GFY Great Again
                          • May 2022
                          • 11191

                          #13
                          Originally posted by NatalieK
                          exactly as i´m doing, adapt or die, we´re here to stay in the adult business...

                          however, like people want to use VPN rather than AVS, there´s people that will pay for AVS and enjoy what they want to see. Besides, it´s only 2 quid for life, it´s not a massive problem
                          What's the conversion comparison with vs without?

                          There is no shot you wouldn't lose almost all viewers.
                          Stop asking me about AI, the answer is yes.

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                          • NatalieK
                            Natalie K
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 20114

                            #14
                            Originally posted by mainstreammix
                            What's the conversion comparison with vs without?

                            There is no shot you wouldn't lose almost all viewers.
                            I will say one thing, since the AVS was applied to the ModelCentro sites, I noticed a dip in my traffic on my official subscription site.

                            This is what I find curious & would like to know where it come from though...

                            I notice on Saturday, just gone, the 26th July and 27th, a huge increase in traffic, similar to the same as before the AVS was applied a month or so ago.

                            Could this be Brits on VPN. I will look into this, but this is very strange to see the spike in traffic & join hits & joins.
                            My official site / Custom vids / Make money links / First time girls
                            Email: [email protected] - "Converting traffic into income since 2005"

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