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  • jerkygo
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2022
    • 106

    #1

    anyone has private contact to fris?

    hey guys

    i made a deal with fris couple days back..he doesnt reply anymore via email (i know he is not a scammer)
    anyone has private contact with him?
  • CaptainHowdy
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Dec 2004
    • 94727

    #2
    He posts in here so just wait . . .

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    • jerkygo
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      • Jan 2022
      • 106

      #3
      Originally posted by CaptainHowdy
      He posts in here so just wait . . .
      sure if you send someone money and he doesnt deliver you just wait

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      • TheLegacy
        SEO & GEO Connoisseur
        • Apr 2003
        • 18078

        #4
        Fris in one of te most honest people on gfy - he'll see this and you'll be fine
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        • jerkygo
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2022
          • 106

          #5
          Originally posted by TheLegacy
          Fris in one of te most honest people on gfy - he'll see this and you'll be fine
          i already made a couple deals with him..i know he doesnt scam

          he wasnt online here since 18.06.
          its just a little weird

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          • mainstreammix
            Make GFY Great Again
            • May 2022
            • 11191

            #6
            It's Juneteenth weekend brother.
            Stop asking me about AI, the answer is yes.

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            • CaptainHowdy
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Dec 2004
              • 94727

              #7
              Originally posted by jerkygo
              sure if you send someone money and he doesnt deliver you just wait
              I understand your hecticness . . .

              Originally posted by TheLegacy
              Fris in one of te most honest people on gfy - he'll see this and you'll be fine
              I wouldn't go that far . . . again, he does posts here.

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              • Shoplifter
                Richest man in Babylon
                • Jan 2002
                • 5844

                #8
                Fris has gone above and beyond helping me out. I wouldn't worry. Also it may be a holiday weekend where he is, not sure.

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                • mopek1
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 3191

                  #9
                  That has happened to me as well. I have done a few deals with him in the past and all went well.

                  Then, every so often, he doesn't reply to my emails. Then after a few weeks, he does and that pattern continues.

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                  • lemonlinx
                    Confirmed User
                    • Apr 2025
                    • 169

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TheLegacy
                    Fris in one of te most honest people on gfy - he'll see this and you'll be fine
                    so 2 days pass and Fris hasn't seen this yet?
                    I'm not seeing any replies from him

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                    • Publisher Bucks
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2018
                      • 1330

                      #11
                      Originally posted by lemonlinx
                      so 2 days pass and Fris hasn't seen this yet?
                      I'm not seeing any replies from him
                      It was the weekend, give him a chance, jesus fucking christ, you people...
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                      • lemonlinx
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                        • Apr 2025
                        • 169

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Publisher Bucks
                        It was the weekend, give him a chance, jesus fucking christ, you people...
                        It has nothing to do with the weekend you fucking idiot
                        Fris has been known to do this shit, he took my friends money for a Mechbunny custom theme and never finished it, dragged it on for months just to come back with an unfinished product

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                        • jerkygo
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                          • Jan 2022
                          • 106

                          #13
                          Originally posted by mopek1
                          That has happened to me as well. I have done a few deals with him in the past and all went well.

                          Then, every so often, he doesn't reply to my emails. Then after a few weeks, he does and that pattern continues.
                          interesting...always happens after you paid? before he replied fast?
                          he replied to me yesterday..still not finished the deal should have started Wednesday last week

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                          • jerkygo
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                            • Jan 2022
                            • 106

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Publisher Bucks
                            It was the weekend, give him a chance, jesus fucking christ, you people...
                            weekends dont mean shit in the online world
                            he has an iphone..simple message im away for the weekend get back to you on monday..would be fine..
                            its not only the time its also the way he replies..i dont know maybe its jsut me but if i take money from someone and something doesnt work out like i thought..i dont let them in the open

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                            • machinegunkelly
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 3304

                              #15
                              Fris is one of the very, very few I trust in this biz.

                              "a few days back" and you're posting on GFY already?
                              I Hope he tells you to GFY.

                              I havent checked my email in a minute, most don't... he's a busy man, one of the few still doing something... IMO

                              Work, live whatever they call it.
                              dead.

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                              • jerkygo
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2022
                                • 106

                                #16
                                Originally posted by machinegunkelly
                                Fris is one of the very, very few I trust in this biz.

                                "a few days back" and you're posting on GFY already?
                                I Hope he tells you to GFY.

                                I havent checked my email in a minute, most don't... he's a busy man, one of the few still doing something... IMO

                                Work, live whatever they call it.
                                i guess you are missing the whole point

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                                • mopek1
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jun 2004
                                  • 3191

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jerkygo
                                  interesting...always happens after you paid? before he replied fast?
                                  he replied to me yesterday..still not finished the deal should have started Wednesday last week
                                  Any and all. Sometimes I want to pay and don't get a reply. Sometimes I have paid and then have to follow up with him for weeks until I get a reply. I haven't been scammed by him but like I said, the pattern of doing regular business and then not replying for weeks cycle has been there for a long time.

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                                  • fris
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 55679

                                    #18
                                    i sent you an email, i havent been on gfy as i dont check he forum daily like others do.

                                    if you want my telegram or ms teams i can send you that to speak live.
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                                    • WebcamWealth
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Oct 2024
                                      • 90

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by jerkygo
                                      hey guys

                                      i made a deal with fris couple days back..he doesnt reply anymore via email (i know he is not a scammer)
                                      anyone has private contact with him?
                                      Originally posted by jerkygo
                                      sure if you send someone money and he doesnt deliver you just wait


                                      Originally posted by mopek1
                                      That has happened to me as well. I have done a few deals with him in the past and all went well.

                                      Then, every so often, he doesn't reply to my emails. Then after a few weeks, he does and that pattern continues.
                                      Yikes!

                                      Originally posted by lemonlinx
                                      so 2 days pass and Fris hasn't seen this yet?
                                      I'm not seeing any replies from him
                                      Seems he likes to do this quite a bit.

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                                      • O MARINA
                                        I'm clockin' ya, Versace shade watchin' ya
                                        • Mar 2003
                                        • 13796

                                        #20
                                        I sale icq # to reach him asap

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                                        • Publisher Bucks
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2018
                                          • 1330

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by O MARINA
                                          I sale icq # to reach him asap
                                          'Sail' ICQ ;)
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                                          • fris
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Aug 2002
                                            • 55679

                                            #22
                                            tubeace is back with another fake nick
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                                            • YoAdrian
                                              Registered User
                                              • Oct 2017
                                              • 2

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by lemonlinx
                                              It has nothing to do with the weekend you fucking idiot
                                              Fris has been known to do this shit, he took my friends money for a Mechbunny custom theme and never finished it, dragged it on for months just to come back with an unfinished product
                                              I've just had the same experience (despite the support and positive reviews here). I paid a chunk for 2 sites back in Feb and as of last week one was 80% complete and the other hadn't been started. Communication using WhatsApp and email has been sporadic at best waiting 1wk + for replies. I locked him out last week, enough was enough, I got tired of th excuse machine.

                                              I appreciate all the good reviews but Fris hasn't lived up to any of them for us. I've asked for a refund for work not completed and seeing as we're both in Ontario Canada I'll likely file in small claims court to get what I can back. Once upon a time he may have been good at what he did but, IMO, that time has passed

                                              PS: I hate that after all this time on gfy this is my first post.
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                                              • jerkygo
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jan 2022
                                                • 106

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by YoAdrian
                                                I've just had the same experience (despite the support and positive reviews here). I paid a chunk for 2 sites back in Feb and as of last week one was 80% complete and the other hadn't been started. Communication using WhatsApp and email has been sporadic at best waiting 1wk + for replies. I locked him out last week, enough was enough, I got tired of th excuse machine.

                                                I appreciate all the good reviews but Fris hasn't lived up to any of them for us. I've asked for a refund for work not completed and seeing as we're both in Ontario Canada I'll likely file in small claims court to get what I can back. Once upon a time he may have been good at what he did but, IMO, that time has passed

                                                PS: I hate that after all this time on gfy this is my first post.
                                                at the end of the day he was telling me coupe times he sent traffic...never saw any in my analytics..he told me switch to google analytics (which i did) and all of a sudden i saw traffic coming in..guess what it was all fake traffic..he is either using trafficbooster to fake google analytics or some kind of other software...was easy to see because google analytics showed like 10k traffic but absoluetely no ad impression was registered

                                                i told him to refund because of fake traffic...should have refunded yesterday..but as i expected he didnt do it

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                                                • asorelli
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                                                  • Feb 2024
                                                  • 464

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by O MARINA
                                                  I sale icq # to reach him asap

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                                                  • asorelli
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Feb 2024
                                                    • 464

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jerkygo
                                                    at the end of the day he was telling me coupe times he sent traffic...never saw any in my analytics..he told me switch to google analytics (which i did) and all of a sudden i saw traffic coming in..guess what it was all fake traffic..he is either using trafficbooster to fake google analytics or some kind of other software...was easy to see because google analytics showed like 10k traffic but absoluetely no ad impression was registered

                                                    i told him to refund because of fake traffic...should have refunded yesterday..but as i expected he didnt do it
                                                    What do your server logs show? I think that's really the best way to analyze the traffic if you have those concerns.

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                                                    • Yamato
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                                                      • Apr 2023
                                                      • 349

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by asorelli
                                                      What do your server logs show? I think that's really the best way to analyze the traffic if you have those concerns.
                                                      Well, well, well. Not only I feel very strong SPR vibe here, but also look who is here again. Same "Ass sore lately" nik as in previous threads.

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                                                      • asorelli
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Feb 2024
                                                        • 464

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Yamato
                                                        Well, well, well. Not only I feel very strong SPR vibe here, but also look who is here again. Same "Ass sore lately" nik as in previous threads.
                                                        Like I said previously, projection at it's finest. You do like to troll and follow me around, don't you? And listen dumbass, don't get me started. I know you're too stupid to realize it, but I'll give you a tip. If I was SPR as you have claimed before, I would have already jumped on a different user in this thread. Let's see how perceptive or stupid you really are. Now run along and go burry your head in the sand somewhere. K, thanks!

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                                                        • Yamato
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                                                          • Apr 2023
                                                          • 349

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by asorelli
                                                          Like I said previously, projection at it's finest. You do like to troll and follow me around, don't you? And listen dumbass, don't get me started. I know you're too stupid to realize it, but I'll give you a tip. If I was SPR as you have claimed before, I would have already jumped on a different user in this thread. Let's see how perceptive or stupid you really are. Now run along and go burry your head in the sand somewhere. K, thanks!
                                                          Oh baby boy, you’re absolutely right, the only reason you haven’t gone full keyboard-warrior on everyone here is out of the goodness of your heart.. And thank you so much for the ‘tip’ , I’ll be sure to file it right next to your other brilliant observations, like ‘bury’ being spelled with RR. Run along now, champ. Your fan club of delusion twats awaits. See you in one of my future topics, punk

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                                                          • asorelli
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Feb 2024
                                                            • 464

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Yamato
                                                            Oh baby boy, you’re absolutely right, the only reason you haven’t gone full keyboard-warrior on everyone here is out of the goodness of your heart.. And thank you so much for the ‘tip’ , I’ll be sure to file it right next to your other brilliant observations, like ‘bury’ being spelled with RR. Run along now, champ. Your fan club of delusion twats awaits. See you in one of my future topics, punk
                                                            Please do share how my comment is even remotely attacking, unlike most of yours, or maybe even a few others in this same thread? Or are your feelings still hurt because I posted in 'YOUR' thread where you became unhinged and attacked many? Please, do go look up the definition of an open forum, because this isn't a private boys club buddy.

                                                            I know it's difficult for you to understand, so let me explain it for you:

                                                            Maybe the media analytics or whatever he was looking at are not properly showing the data he is expecting. Server logs will show more than enough info to determine the traffic source. Now, again, please tell me who did I attack? The end results can go either way. Or, is that not what the outcome should be? Good lord, the level of stupid you display is much more than my accidental typo.

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                                                            • Jman
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Sep 2003
                                                              • 22837

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by YoAdrian
                                                              I've just had the same experience (despite the support and positive reviews here). I paid a chunk for 2 sites back in Feb and as of last week one was 80% complete and the other hadn't been started. Communication using WhatsApp and email has been sporadic at best waiting 1wk + for replies. I locked him out last week, enough was enough, I got tired of th excuse machine.

                                                              I appreciate all the good reviews but Fris hasn't lived up to any of them for us. I've asked for a refund for work not completed and seeing as we're both in Ontario Canada I'll likely file in small claims court to get what I can back. Once upon a time he may have been good at what he did but, IMO, that time has passed

                                                              PS: I hate that after all this time on gfy this is my first post.
                                                              Funny he told me he was living in Arizona not to long ago.
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                                                              • jerkygo
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                                                                • Jan 2022
                                                                • 106

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by asorelli
                                                                What do your server logs show? I think that's really the best way to analyze the traffic if you have those concerns.
                                                                dont even need that. i removed google anaytics script days ago and still getting his "traffic" in ga

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                                                                • asorelli
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                                                                  • Feb 2024
                                                                  • 464

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by jerkygo
                                                                  dont even need that. ...


                                                                  Sig for sale. Generated $40k in last thread with yoyo the clown Where the ballers @? HMU

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                                                                  • jerkygo
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                                                                    • Jan 2022
                                                                    • 106

                                                                    #34
                                                                    just for anyone doing business with him...he sent fake traffic..got caught..said he will refund..he didnt do it last week as he said and doesnt reply anymore

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                                                                    • WebcamWealth
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                                                                      • Oct 2024
                                                                      • 90

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Another GFY success story!

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                                                                      • CaptainHowdy
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Dec 2004
                                                                        • 94727

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by WebcamWealth
                                                                        Another GFY success story!
                                                                        . . .

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                                                                        • CyberHustler
                                                                          Masterbaiter
                                                                          • Feb 2006
                                                                          • 28725

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Fris out here hitting licks 🤣
                                                                          “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                                                          • ~Evilin~
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                                                                            • Nov 2005
                                                                            • 2126

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by fris
                                                                            i sent you an email, i havent been on gfy as i dont check he forum daily like others do.

                                                                            if you want my telegram or ms teams i can send you that to speak live.

                                                                            wow you registered at telegram? )

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                                                                            • jerkygo
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                                                                              • Jan 2022
                                                                              • 106

                                                                              #39
                                                                              2 weeks now..no message..no refund i guess its fair to call him a scammer now

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                                                                              • asorelli
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                                                                                • Feb 2024
                                                                                • 464

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by jerkygo
                                                                                2 weeks now..no message..no refund i guess its fair to call him a scammer now
                                                                                In fairness, he has been around on this board for a long time and from what I've seen he has done business with others without issues. Seems odd to be scamming for a few dollars. Perhaps he is not well. Does anyone have personal contact with him?

                                                                                I don't know what you bought or how much you spent and it's not my business, but yeah, it sucks to lose money (whatever the amount). I'm not taking any sides, perhaps something happened to him. Maybe times are tough, I don't know. Maybe someone else who posted in here can assist.

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                                                                                • WebcamWealth
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                                                                                  • Oct 2024
                                                                                  • 90

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by asorelli
                                                                                  In fairness, he has been around on this board for a long time and from what I've seen he has done business with others without issues. Seems odd to be scamming for a few dollars. Perhaps he is not well. Does anyone have personal contact with him?

                                                                                  I don't know what you bought or how much you spent and it's not my business, but yeah, it sucks to lose money (whatever the amount). I'm not taking any sides, perhaps something happened to him. Maybe times are tough, I don't know. Maybe someone else who posted in here can assist.
                                                                                  A wife can be faithful to her husband for 10+ years and then not be.

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                                                                                  • asorelli
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                                                                                    • Feb 2024
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by WebcamWealth
                                                                                    A wife can be faithful to her husband for 10+ years and then not be.
                                                                                    My apologies, I didn't know you and fris were a thing. But, which one of you is the wife?

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                                                                                    • WebcamWealth
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                                                                                      • Oct 2024
                                                                                      • 90

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      asorelli, why are you defending a scumbag like fris?

                                                                                      He is clearly scamming GFY members.

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                                                                                      • asorelli
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                                                                                        • Feb 2024
                                                                                        • 464

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by WebcamWealth
                                                                                        asorelli, why are you defending a scumbag like fris?

                                                                                        He is clearly scamming GFY members.
                                                                                        Yeah, no. If it was Wen or Thur, maybe I might engage. It's Friday my man, no interest. But, here are some other targets for you. Have fun with that.

                                                                                        Originally posted by CaptainHowdy
                                                                                        He posts in here so just wait . . .
                                                                                        Originally posted by TheLegacy
                                                                                        Fris in one of te most honest people on gfy - he'll see this and you'll be fine
                                                                                        Originally posted by mainstreammix
                                                                                        It's Juneteenth weekend brother.
                                                                                        Originally posted by Shoplifter
                                                                                        Fris has gone above and beyond helping me out. I wouldn't worry. Also it may be a holiday weekend where he is, not sure.
                                                                                        Originally posted by Publisher Bucks
                                                                                        It was the weekend, give him a chance, jesus fucking christ, you people...
                                                                                        Originally posted by machinegunkelly
                                                                                        Fris is one of the very, very few I trust in this biz.

                                                                                        "a few days back" and you're posting on GFY already?
                                                                                        I Hope he tells you to GFY.

                                                                                        I havent checked my email in a minute, most don't... he's a busy man, one of the few still doing something... IMO

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                                                                                        • WebcamWealth
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                                                                                          • Oct 2024
                                                                                          • 90

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          This thread was started over a month ago.

                                                                                          It's been 2 weeks since fris ran off and hasn't been seen since after promising refunds.

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                                                                                          • jerkygo
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                                                                                            • Jan 2022
                                                                                            • 106

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by asorelli
                                                                                            In fairness, he has been around on this board for a long time and from what I've seen he has done business with others without issues. Seems odd to be scamming for a few dollars. Perhaps he is not well. Does anyone have personal contact with him?

                                                                                            I don't know what you bought or how much you spent and it's not my business, but yeah, it sucks to lose money (whatever the amount). I'm not taking any sides, perhaps something happened to him. Maybe times are tough, I don't know. Maybe someone else who posted in here can assist.
                                                                                            1000$
                                                                                            if i see what others here do for 20$ i think im pretty fair
                                                                                            i saw red flags in the beginning at our email convo..so its my own fault
                                                                                            but saying maybe he is not well or this and that who cares...his intention from the beginning was to scam...he thought ppl are dumb enough not to see that he is sending bot traffic.

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                                                                                            • jerkygo
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                                                                                              • Jan 2022
                                                                                              • 106

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              the fucker is just acting dead..messaged him yesterday via his website..he replied right away

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                                                                                              • fris
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                                • 55679

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by jerkygo
                                                                                                2 weeks now..no message..no refund i guess its fair to call him a scammer now
                                                                                                call me a scammer all you want, go ahead and do what you please, but you addressing me as a fucktard over email, just lost all your chance of me sending you anything.

                                                                                                i havent been on for a reason. yes i anwer email because its on my phone that is all im doing.

                                                                                                once you insulted me over email, i just didnt bother with replying to you.

                                                                                                yes it was cute you signed up to a seperate gmail account to contact me, i do genally reply to people who dont call me a fucktard over email.
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                                                                                                • OnlineAnarchy
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  lol guys...

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                                                                                                  • jerkygo
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                                                                                                    • Jan 2022
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by fris
                                                                                                    call me a scammer all you want, go ahead and do what you please, but you addressing me as a fucktard over email, just lost all your chance of me sending you anything.

                                                                                                    i havent been on for a reason. yes i anwer email because its on my phone that is all im doing.

                                                                                                    once you insulted me over email, i just didnt bother with replying to you.

                                                                                                    yes it was cute you signed up to a seperate gmail account to contact me, i do genally reply to people who dont call me a fucktard over email.
                                                                                                    it doesnt even make sense..all my other emal did go to the same email lol
                                                                                                    you did scam...you didnt replied to any email before that..stop acting like you got offended by a stupid word while what you did is way worse

                                                                                                    you took 1000$ didnt deliver what you said..you said you refund and you got dead silence after that for over a month now...naming someone that does that a fucktard over email yeah thats really the thing here

                                                                                                    but this is how i know you..acing liek things didnt happen and jsut react on things you wanna react..common tell the ppl why you didnt refund after you said you refund?

                                                                                                    you just take that now as a excuse why you dont refund..

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