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  • Speigelau
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2007
    • 3032
    #31
    Originally posted by gregdumas
    It was just an example to show 0 traffic with an affiliate ID and revenue associated with it. I wasn't intending on giving any context other than that. It's not necessary to understand the problem. The point I am trying to make is that the revenue you see in that example doesn't exist anymore and those affiliate IDs are $0. That's strange.
    Its not strange if you don't provide any context. How many monthly unique spenders on each whitelabel made up that revenue? If you don't understand your stats then how can you figure out the issue? How can you say it's not necessary to understand the problem? You've asserted that chaturbate has made a drastic change in the way they count affiliate's revshare. If you can't articulate the problem other than saying your stats are zero then how do you expect anyone to believe your accusation.

    2 spenders could have made up 90% of that period revenue, once they leave then revenue drops to zero. If you told me that you averaged 30 unique spenders each month across all your whitelabels and then suddenly it went to zero by showing a screenshot of cb-stats, then you'd definitely have proof that something occurred outside the norm.

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      • Christianx
        Rubber Duck Collector
        • Sep 2005
        • 159
        #32
        this is the same thing OnlyFans did a few years ago. They were giving people 5 percent revenue for life if you signed someone up to onlyfans. Then they realized that everyone who what onlyfans was and they didnt need affiliates and that lifetime revenue went down to 5percent for the first year or 50,000 total whichever came first.

        Chaturbate is just following the OnlyFans lead on this
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          • LouiseLloyd
            SO FUCKING SCAMMED
            • Mar 2010
            • 1429
            #33
            Originally posted by Christianx
            this is the same thing OnlyFans did a few years ago. They were giving people 5 percent revenue for life if you signed someone up to onlyfans. Then they realized that everyone who what onlyfans was and they didnt need affiliates and that lifetime revenue went down to 5percent for the first year or 50,000 total whichever came first.

            Chaturbate is just following the OnlyFans lead on this
            Chaturbate haven't changed their revshare agreement?

            I am still seeing revshare from signups a decade ago.

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              • mechanicvirus
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2005
                • 4219
                #34
                Originally posted by LouiseLloyd
                Chaturbate haven't changed their revshare agreement?

                I am still seeing revshare from signups a decade ago.
                This thread is full of amazing fan fiction. "Chaturbate is just doing what the Dutch East India company did in 1750! Open your eyes people!"

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                  • LouiseLloyd
                    SO FUCKING SCAMMED
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 1429
                    #35
                    Originally posted by mechanicvirus
                    This thread is full of amazing fan fiction. "Chaturbate is just doing what the Dutch East India company did in 1750! Open your eyes people!"
                    I am not disputing that there certainly appears to be issues, well the number of claims back that up, but having never used whitelabel as a promo method I am not seeing anything that backs up the claim that revshare terms have changed…

                    Yesterday my biggest spender was from 2016!

                    I think the tracking switchover may have resulted in some issues. I too have vented my frustration in this thread, but to make a claim the CB is doing an OF and the terms of the revshare program have changed, I'm sorry my stats don't substantiate that claim.

                    If I do see this, I will certainly have the bottle to come here and say it's true.

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                      • Shoplifter
                        Richest man in Babylon
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 5843
                        #36
                        Originally posted by mechanicvirus
                        This thread is full of amazing fan fiction. "Chaturbate is just doing what the Dutch East India company did in 1750! Open your eyes people!"
                        Yeah and that's an issue because there is no one who is really able to provide a compelling argument as to what the problem is. At best I am able to say there is a problem in some regards:

                        If I go and look at my last xxx number of transactions the only older sales I see are not from white labels, their tracking is for the Chaturbate domain itself. All of my recurring white label spenders disappeared after February and I only have very recent spenders there.

                        At the end of April all of the engaged hits for White Labels ceased being recorded.

                        As of the end of April the raw traffic has not been counted fully on my white labels.

                        I made a post about this last month here and contacted Chaturbate support.

                        I see this as factual, but what conclusion can be drawn from it is a different matter.

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                          • emmasexytime
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2015
                            • 4512
                            #37
                            To test this you would need to have a whitelabel that has had many sign ups in the past, now not be a whitelabel, so you could assume if any sales there were now being done through chaturbate .com

                            Sometimes people think the real site is the whitelabel so would never know about chaturbate, but there would be some that end up on chaturbate. Wouldn't they still have the same log in details on chaturbate as their old whitelabel login?
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                              • mopek1
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 3191
                                #38
                                Originally posted by WiredGuy

                                I've been sending traffic to Chaturbate for my unsold traffic for the past 5 years, direct to CB, no whitelabels.
                                Is this targeted webcam traffic or just general adult traffic?

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                                  • Jman
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Sep 2003
                                    • 22837
                                    #39
                                    Hey Greg, hope you are well. I've been trying to get in touch with you. Do you have TG?
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                                    Email: [email protected] TG: @jman1216

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                                      • lemonlinx
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Apr 2025
                                        • 167
                                        #40
                                        If I sign in to Chaturbate with my account, I can also sign in with that account on my whitelabels, it works without any issues

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                                          • gregdumas
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Aug 2004
                                            • 144
                                            #41
                                            Originally posted by Jman
                                            Hey Greg, hope you are well. I've been trying to get in touch with you. Do you have TG?
                                            I sent you an DM on TG
                                            Greg Dumas
                                            https://www.domainoptions.com
                                            AVN Lifetime Achievement Award (2023)

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                                              • gregdumas
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2004
                                                • 144
                                                #42
                                                Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                I tried to diversify with CamBuilder at the start of the year but it was nothing but problems. Their XML tracking didn't work for several weeks and two test campaigns had terrible results. Sad to say there haven't been many good alternatives lately.
                                                WG
                                                This is discouraging because I just created about 30 white labels on Cambuilder. It's not enough time for results but now you have me worried.

                                                Any thoughts on Stripcash?
                                                Greg Dumas
                                                https://www.domainoptions.com
                                                AVN Lifetime Achievement Award (2023)

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                                                  • gregdumas
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                    • 144
                                                    #43
                                                    Originally posted by Shoplifter
                                                    Yeah and that's an issue because there is no one who is really able to provide a compelling argument as to what the problem is. At best I am able to say there is a problem in some regards:

                                                    If I go and look at my last xxx number of transactions the only older sales I see are not from white labels, their tracking is for the Chaturbate domain itself. All of my recurring white label spenders disappeared after February and I only have very recent spenders there.

                                                    At the end of April all of the engaged hits for White Labels ceased being recorded.

                                                    As of the end of April the raw traffic has not been counted fully on my white labels.

                                                    I made a post about this last month here and contacted Chaturbate support.

                                                    I see this as factual, but what conclusion can be drawn from it is a different matter.
                                                    This is part of the problem. The communication from the company is horrible. I get a better response trying to contact a govt agency. If I could just get someone there to understand what's going on with MY SITUATION which I am sure many others are having too. I'd be happy to post the solution or lack thereof.

                                                    Yes, it's communication but it's also the fact that they completely eliminated revenue that was there one pay period and not there the following pay period. It just disappeared like it never existed. I know it's because of their change to tracking affiliates but they should have considered the revenue that was generated by old affiliate IDs that don't get new traffic to the affiliate link but are tracked by their system to allocate the payouts accordingly. That's the problem.

                                                    This isn't a small amount of revenue, gross or net. It might be accidental but it's a complete violation to the entire business model of revenue sharing. And the fact that no one will at least listen only makes it worse.
                                                    Greg Dumas
                                                    https://www.domainoptions.com
                                                    AVN Lifetime Achievement Award (2023)

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                                                      • gregdumas
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                        • 144
                                                        #44
                                                        Originally posted by Speigelau
                                                        Its not strange if you don't provide any context. How many monthly unique spenders on each whitelabel made up that revenue? If you don't understand your stats then how can you figure out the issue? How can you say it's not necessary to understand the problem? You've asserted that chaturbate has made a drastic change in the way they count affiliate's revshare. If you can't articulate the problem other than saying your stats are zero then how do you expect anyone to believe your accusation.

                                                        2 spenders could have made up 90% of that period revenue, once they leave then revenue drops to zero. If you told me that you averaged 30 unique spenders each month across all your whitelabels and then suddenly it went to zero by showing a screenshot of cb-stats, then you'd definitely have proof that something occurred outside the norm.
                                                        With all respect, I don't think you understand what I am trying to say here. I am not publicly displaying my stats but I can say that it's more than 80% of my overall affiliate revenue. I said it in a prior post. They're not crediting affiliates with revenue that isn't generated by active links. They are withholding the revenue from users who were tagged to an affiliate long before these changes. Plus, no one responds.
                                                        Greg Dumas
                                                        https://www.domainoptions.com
                                                        AVN Lifetime Achievement Award (2023)

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                                                          • mainstreammix
                                                            Make GFY Great Again
                                                            • May 2022
                                                            • 11191
                                                            #45
                                                            I really hope it's a mistake. Never used the white labels enough to check and normal stats are fine but these guys have been paying fair since the free site days. Must have recommended it to 1000+ people by now as an example of a legit company.
                                                            Stop asking me about AI, the answer is yes.

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