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  • fastball
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2021
    • 6280

    #1

    I know this is called simply business, but...

    there isn't much porn biz going on here anymore. At least at X biz there are discussions about AV problems, OF stats etc. Does anyone here even work in porn anymore? Just asking, because I do (27 years and counting). And there ain't a lot of useful information here anymore. And I don't mean whenwe stories. WTF happened to this place?
  • Dugmor
    The Traffic Cowboy
    • Jan 2002
    • 7687

    #2
    I still do porn but but also main stream. It was an cross over if you understand how the internet works.

    GFY was always about trolling and having fun. Yeah some business came from it but you need to have fun first.
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    • celandina
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jun 2006
      • 11715

      #3
      I am not an expert but I run my site and make content for it since 2003.... I even used to go to conventions Las Vegas, Berlin and Prague ( mostly).. you could meet and discuss business with: modelling agencies, distributors and marketers from " far away" countries, fellow producers ( yes, I have even done a coproduction), tech companies pitching everything from cameras and the like to editing and other software, payment processors and even a few investors and on it went....

      Then in about 2013.... new "beasts" shown up... affiliates, click thru add companies, dating crooks... and the "traditionals" had less and less to meet and talk about.. So I have stopped wasting time and money. A few years later OF chatter companies or similar has shown up and that was the end of the business as it was known...

      I do NOT even know when it happened but everything is now " affiliate" conferences and even a chick with a cell phone in her bedroom who diddles herself is called a creator.

      Look even here, everybody is selling recycled content and the new stuff is just ugly tattooed, plastic and botox enhanced women and "meat and potato" fucking not worth even looking at.

      Over the years I have said here and elsewhere " content is king", but now there is very little of real content being created.

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      • fastball
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2021
        • 6280

        #4
        Originally posted by celandina
        I am not an expert but I run my site and make content for it since 2003.... I even used to go to conventions Las Vegas, Berlin and Prague ( mostly).. you could meet and discuss business with: modelling agencies, distributors and marketers from " far away" countries, fellow producers ( yes, I have even done a coproduction), tech companies pitching everything from cameras and the like to editing and other software, payment processors and even a few investors and on it went....

        Then in about 2013.... new "beasts" shown up... affiliates, click thru add companies, dating crooks... and the "traditionals" had less and less to meet and talk about.. So I have stopped wasting time and money. A few years later OF chatter companies or similar has shown up and that was the end of the business as it was known...

        I do NOT even know when it happened but everything is now " affiliate" conferences and even a chick with a cell phone in her bedroom who diddles herself is called a creator.

        Look even here, everybody is selling recycled content and the new stuff is just ugly tattooed, plastic and botox enhanced women and "meat and potato" fucking not worth even looking at.

        Over the years I have said here and elsewhere " content is king", but now there is very little of real content being created.
        True that. Quite of few content sites have been on auto rotate for awhile now.

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        • Manfap
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2013
          • 2626

          #5
          Thought you were banned from xbiz?

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          • blackmonsters
            Making PHP work
            • Nov 2002
            • 20961

            #6
            Originally posted by Dugmor
            Yeah some business came from it but you need to have fun first.
            Sorry sir; but I made a living for 20 years from the contacts that I made on this site.

            My only regret is that I never got a chance to eat all of the White pussy that I worked for.

            I like to eat White pussy.

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            • blackmonsters
              Making PHP work
              • Nov 2002
              • 20961

              #7
              ^^^

              I'm a programmer, not a performer.
              If I was a performer then I would have eaten 1000 White pussies and been the happiest N-word alive.









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              • Look Chang
                Voyeur
                • Sep 2010
                • 18255

                #8
                IMHO, I prefer eating Asian pussies than white pussies. The smell and taste of Asian pussies is more delicate and exciting and after having tasted Asian girls juice, I cannot anymore eat white pussies.

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                • fastball
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2021
                  • 6280

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Look Chang
                  IMHO, I prefer eating Asian pussies than white pussies. The smell and taste of Asian pussies is more delicate and exciting and after having tasted Asian girls juice, I cannot anymore eat white pussies.
                  I rest my case.

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                  • fastball
                    Confirmed User
                    • Apr 2021
                    • 6280

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Manfap
                    Thought you were banned from xbiz?
                    Have we met? Who are you?

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                    • fuzebox
                      making it rain
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 22351

                      #11
                      Xbiz is just the same 5-6 people winding each other up.

                      I guess not that different from here...

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                      • blackmonsters
                        Making PHP work
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 20961

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Look Chang
                        IMHO, I prefer eating Asian pussies than white pussies. The smell and taste of Asian pussies is more delicate and exciting and after having tasted Asian girls juice, I cannot anymore eat white pussies.
                        OK; but maybe you didn't eat the same White pussy as me.

                        I eat so called "redneck pussy" the most and their feet taste the best.
                        Then I eat Jewish pussy the most after redneck.

                        I have no shame!

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                        • fastball
                          Confirmed User
                          • Apr 2021
                          • 6280

                          #13
                          Originally posted by blackmonsters
                          OK; but maybe you didn't eat the same White pussy as me.

                          I eat so called "redneck pussy" the most and their feet taste the best.
                          Then I eat Jewish pussy the most after redneck.

                          I have no shame!

                          Apparently, you don't. This is not 1997. Time to recognize you may have hit your sell by date.

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                          • blackmonsters
                            Making PHP work
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 20961

                            #14
                            Originally posted by fastball
                            Apparently, you don't. This is not 1997. Time to recognize you may have hit your sell by date.
                            Yo mamma!

                            I ate her pussy too.

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                            • ~Evilin~
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                              • Nov 2005
                              • 2126

                              #15
                              Adult biz still alive. ;)

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                              • CaptainHowdy
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 94727

                                #16
                                This is a zen buddhist temple now . . . a punch is thrown every once in a while but it's mostly a riddling calmness that prevails around here.

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                                • TheLegacy
                                  SEO & GEO Connoisseur
                                  • Apr 2003
                                  • 18078

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by fuzebox
                                  Xbiz is just the same 5-6 people winding each other up.

                                  I guess not that different from here...
                                  Happens daily on the political section except they throw racist comments - attack each others personal business - do far greater damage and breaking GFY policies mostly being ignored. At least on XBiz you don't get away with that crap

                                  The other difference is the other board verifies and vets members much more diligently than on gfy where anyone can put in the common about what website you own - google or gfy.

                                  That being said I'm done with the political section here - don't need that crap and stress in my life. If we wanted to talk politics fine but if we make a habit of attacking one another without any clear argument - even when given an answer they still attack.

                                  Don't need that in my life. Over here - I visit because when people ask good questions I will do my best to help and provide answers that will solve their problem.

                                  Case in point - in 32 years I've never blocked anyone - not even Lawrence Connor - but from the political section I'm up to 2. Stupidity drains me and I don't want to hear anymore what people say at times.
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                                  • VikingMan
                                    Exploiting human weakness
                                    • Jan 2008
                                    • 6858

                                    #18
                                    Half of GFY qualify to live in 55+ retirement communities. At this point taking a healthy shit is more important than business and often is more satisfying than sex.

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                                    • fastball
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Apr 2021
                                      • 6280

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by TheLegacy
                                      Happens daily on the political section except they throw racist comments - attack each others personal business - do far greater damage and breaking GFY policies mostly being ignored. At least on XBiz you don't get away with that crap

                                      The other difference is the other board verifies and vets members much more diligently than on gfy where anyone can put in the common about what website you own - google or gfy.

                                      That being said I'm done with the political section here - don't need that crap and stress in my life. If we wanted to talk politics fine but if we make a habit of attacking one another without any clear argument - even when given an answer they still attack.

                                      Don't need that in my life. Over here - I visit because when people ask good questions I will do my best to help and provide answers that will solve their problem.

                                      Case in point - in 32 years I've never blocked anyone - not even Lawrence Connor - but from the political section I'm up to 2. Stupidity drains me and I don't want to hear anymore what people say at times.
                                      I don't think many people here are in the adult business.

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                                      • TheLegacy
                                        SEO & GEO Connoisseur
                                        • Apr 2003
                                        • 18078

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by fastball
                                        I don't think many people here are in the adult business.
                                        I agree - which is my I mentioned that the other board will not allow you to post unless you are verified as being in the industry. Here - you check out people's profiles and they comment that their website is google or gfy - total bs. Sad thing is those of us in the industry waste our time on these couch potatoes who love to pretend their extraordinary when in fact they aren't - they just pretend.

                                        I'm sure if gfy vetted the names here much of the posters would be gone which means not much activity - which means fewer advertisers who are told there is a great deal of activity from the industry.
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                                        • Mr Pheer
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Dec 2002
                                          • 22083

                                          #21
                                          Is it really considered to be attacking someone’s business when you simply ask how they have been doing SEO longer than webcrawlers have been around though?

                                          It’s a perfectly legitimate question, he just doesn’t like who asked it. He doesn’t like it so much he’s chirped about it twice.

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                                          • 2MuchMark
                                            Mark of 2Much.net
                                            • Aug 2004
                                            • 50969

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Manfap
                                            Thought you were banned from xbiz?
                                            No that was me.

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                                            • 2MuchMark
                                              Mark of 2Much.net
                                              • Aug 2004
                                              • 50969

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by fastball
                                              I don't think many people here are in the adult business.
                                              Maybe more people are further behind the scenes then where they started from... ?

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                                              • fastball
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Apr 2021
                                                • 6280

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by 2MuchMark
                                                Maybe more people are further behind the scenes then where they started from... ?
                                                Very few, I would guess.

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                                                • Manfap
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2013
                                                  • 2626

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by 2MuchMark
                                                  No that was me.
                                                  They let you back in again though. Graham's still banned though I think.

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                                                  • CurrentlySober
                                                    Too lazy to wipe my ass
                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                    • 38940

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by VikingMan
                                                    a healthy shit is more important than business and often is more satisfying than sex.
                                                    Combine all 3 of those into one... &... Here I am!


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                                                    • Brian mike
                                                      #Alberta51
                                                      • Oct 2014
                                                      • 8735

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                                                      Is it really considered to be attacking someone’s business when you simply ask how they have been doing SEO longer than webcrawlers have been around though?

                                                      It’s a perfectly legitimate question, he just doesn’t like who asked it. He doesn’t like it so much he’s chirped about it twice.
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                                                      • fastball
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                                                        • Apr 2021
                                                        • 6280

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Manfap
                                                        They let you back in again though. Graham's still banned though I think.
                                                        We haven't been formally introduced. Your name is?

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                                                        • Huggles
                                                          GFY'S #1 retard
                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                          • 12504

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by fastball
                                                          I don't think many people here are in the adult business.
                                                          I'm still surviving thanks to gettin' paid from porn for nearly 25 yeas now...
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                                                          • fris
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                            • 55679

                                                            #30
                                                            i have to go pee
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                                                            • NatalieK
                                                              Natalie K
                                                              • Apr 2010
                                                              • 20106

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by fastball
                                                              We haven't been formally introduced. Your name is?
                                                              Manfap´s over in our neck of the woods...

                                                              lovely, warm & peaceful here in España


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                                                              i have to go pee
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                                                              • fastball
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Apr 2021
                                                                • 6280

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by NatalieK
                                                                Manfap´s over in our neck of the woods...

                                                                lovely, warm & peaceful here in España




                                                                I just went
                                                                So, he is like Miguel Diego Manfap?

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                                                                • V_RocKs
                                                                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                  • 32447

                                                                  #33
                                                                  In the past 10 years I have done business here. But I did do a lot more business during the 10 years prior.

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                                                                  • AmeliaG
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                    • 10662

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Affiliates were huge in the early 2000s. Anyone who didn't notice them, especially anyone with original content who didn't notice them until 2013, left money on the table.

                                                                    I love that GFY silos the political nonsense elsewhere.

                                                                    XBIZ, on the other hand, sprays politics everywhere, but silos different business roles to be unable to really interact with one another.

                                                                    I certainly miss early 2000s GFY, but still think it is worth stopping by.
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                                                                    • fastball
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Apr 2021
                                                                      • 6280

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I certainly miss early 2000s GFY, but still think it is worth stopping by.
                                                                      I don't miss GFY from back then, but I do miss the pre-tube business. I am curious to see what the post-tube business will look like.

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                                                                      • Look Chang
                                                                        Voyeur
                                                                        • Sep 2010
                                                                        • 18255

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by VikingMan
                                                                        Half of GFY qualify to live in 55+ retirement communities. At this point taking a healthy shit is more important than business and often is more satisfying than sex.
                                                                        I'm old, retired, and no more concerned by business and I really do appreciate to take healthy shits. Regarding sex, my virility is practically extinct but I still enjoy sniffing and eating a juicy and smelling unwashed pussy as I hate vulva that smell like soap. I also like to spread women's buttocks with my hands to point my tongue into their wrinkled anus.

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                                                                        • goodoff
                                                                          Producer and Actor
                                                                          • Mar 2024
                                                                          • 38

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by celandina
                                                                          now there is very little of real content being created.
                                                                          What studios/websites could you give as an example still creating this real content?
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                                                                          • fastball
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                                                                            • Apr 2021
                                                                            • 6280

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by goodoff
                                                                            What studios/websites could you give as an example still creating this real content?
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