When Will Designers Learn: Simple Galleries Convert Best - GoFuckYourself.com

Donny · 05-27-2003, 07:30 PM

Make it simple. The surfer doesn't care how cool your design is. This is one of my best converting galleries:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/donny/brandice/

The models not even cute. The gallery is just plain and straight forward.

Here's another that converts well:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/w...elle-04-05-03/

SO simple...

Juicy D. Links · 05-27-2003, 07:30 PM

lil2rich4u2 where u at? new galleries for ya

European Lee · 05-27-2003, 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
lil2rich4u2 where u at? new galleries for ya

LMAO

Regards,

Lee

nxventures · 05-27-2003, 07:32 PM

You need to add some 1337 h4x0r DHTML and flash movies to that page.

.

Martin · 05-27-2003, 07:33 PM

I like simple too..

Donny · 05-27-2003, 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by nxventures
You need to add some 1337 h4x0r DHTML and flash movies to that page. .

If my point was to waste bandwidth and convert nothing I'd do just what you suggest.

SpaceAce · 05-27-2003, 07:34 PM

It's not all about conversions, though. I've made some galleries where the conversions aren't so hot but the enormous number of surfers pulled more than makes up for it.

SpaceAce

nxventures · 05-27-2003, 07:37 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips

If my point was to waste bandwidth and convert nothing I'd do just what you suggest.

Pah, you must be a newbie. What you need, are flash flyovers at least 4, and a DHTML page that sets itself as an active desktop. And also loud sounds that say HEY BUY THIS YOU PORN FREAK AND I WILL LET YOU CUM ALL OVER ME.

Just tryin to help a brotha make a dolla bill in this binness.

Pappa · 05-27-2003, 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
lil2rich4u2 where u at? new galleries for ya

I bet lil2goodToCopySourceCode4u2 will be over to "study" them shortly.

dchottie · 05-27-2003, 07:39 PM

I agree that less is more. Some of my best converting galleries before I ever started building my own were Nasty Dollar galleries using their gallery builder.. You can't get any more plain than that but they converted damn well. I don't think it's so much the designer that is doing the graphics heavy flashy galleries I think that's more what the client wants. Usually those that don't or can't design opt to go for the really snazzy looks fantastic type of gallery and snub those that tend to make galleries a little less showy.

pantymaniac · 05-27-2003, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Make it simple. The surfer doesn't care how cool your design is. This is one of my best converting galleries:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/donny/brandice/

The models not even cute. The gallery is just plain and straight forward.

Here's another that converts well:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/w...elle-04-05-03/

SO simple...

simplicity could work maybe in amat niche but
Himmm i dont agree at all .. did you ever tried with nice looking galleries like this ?

http://www.sextronix.com/gallhit.php...all=1051214857

This hosted gallery looks awesome for me ..

bigdaddyc187 · 05-27-2003, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Make it simple. The surfer doesn't care how cool your design is. This is one of my best converting galleries:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/donny/brandice/

The models not even cute. The gallery is just plain and straight forward.

Here's another that converts well:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/w...elle-04-05-03/

SO simple...

I agree from my experiences, also if you are promoting a glamour type site I as a surfer wouldn't want a plain gallery.

Donny · 05-27-2003, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pantymaniac

simplicity could work maybe in amat niche but
Himmm i dont agree at all .. did you ever tried with nice looking galleries like this ?

http://www.sextronix.com/gallhit.php...all=1051214857

This hosted gallery looks awesome for me ..

LOOKS being the key word in that last sentence. How does it convert? I've had galleries like that created for my site. They converted worse than anything I've ever tried.

SpaceAce · 05-27-2003, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pantymaniac

http://www.sextronix.com/gallhit.php...all=1051214857

This hosted gallery looks awesome for me ..

There is a lot of graphical work on that page, but I would still call that "simple". It is a straightforward, top-to-bottom and a fairly uncluttered layout.

SpaceAce

ldinternet · 05-27-2003, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks
lil2rich4u2 where u at? new galleries for ya

pantymaniac · 05-27-2003, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpaceAce

There is a lot of graphical work on that page, but I would still call that "simple". It is a straightforward, top-to-bottom and a fairly uncluttered layout.

SpaceAce

Can you pls post and good , really kick ass hosted gallery exemple pls...
i put on my site

gruffy · 05-27-2003, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pantymaniac

simplicity could work maybe in amat niche but
Himmm i dont agree at all .. did you ever tried with nice looking galleries like this ?

http://www.sextronix.com/gallhit.php...all=1051214857

This hosted gallery looks awesome for me ..

Sweet! I got a 3MB DSL connection and that loads like 56k.

pantymaniac · 05-27-2003, 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by gruffy

Sweet! I got a 3MB DSL connection and that loads like 56k.

Well i have 56k Connection on my computer , top logo makes me wait for the rest

Trolleater · 05-27-2003, 07:51 PM

I've been told my gallery designs convert very well ;)

Samples:

http://www.paysites4sale.com/gallerysamples.html

pantymaniac · 05-27-2003, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trolleater
I've been told my gallery designs convert very well ;)

Samples:

http://www.paysites4sale.com/gallerysamples.html

wohoo clean excellent work for me

Trolleater · 05-27-2003, 08:31 PM

thanks

Gutterboy · 05-27-2003, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Make it simple. The surfer doesn't care how cool your design is. This is one of my best converting galleries:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/donny/brandice/

The models not even cute. The gallery is just plain and straight forward.

Here's another that converts well:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/w...elle-04-05-03/

SO simple...

On my first AVS site I flew the same lame ass newbie gallery design, every fucking day, for 3 years straight. 2 text links, 2 lines of text, 16 pics, and 3-4 recips on top. Converted great. really graet. Sure the conversions went down over time, but never by much.

If I wasn't doing something more profitable now, I'd still be using it.

Snake Doctor · 05-27-2003, 08:34 PM

When did you become the expert on gallery conversions?

My worst converting gallery might do better than your best converting gallery.
Just because its "your" best doesn't mean its "the" best.

And the gallery you posted has 16 pics and 7 sponsor links, it'd be kinda hard not to get clicks off of that, of course getting it listed and getting traffic to it is another story.

DeanCapture · 05-27-2003, 08:36 PM

Nice rack on this one - she's a little cutie

Snake Doctor · 05-27-2003, 08:42 PM

Hey Donovan isn't this your gallery?
http://dirty4free.com/ncg/abigail/index.htm

I think we should all emulate your style and put 67 pics on each gallery, we'd all be making more money then

Paul Markham · 05-27-2003, 08:56 PM

The situation with most people is they tend to think that what they are good at is the thing that matters most, in some instances it's all that matters. Unfortunately in life this is not always the case.

I think content is king, designers thinks design is, some think it's the concept of a site, a lot think traffic is.

Is this because the only way they can effect the the maount they earn is by improving what they are good at and ignotre the things they are weak at.

Design is important, but remember the guy with his CC out also has his dick out. So is he looking at the pretty logo and background or the chicks?

Traffic is important, but no matter how much you drive pass a pieca of shit it still stinks.

The concept is important, but you have to have the ability to present it in the right way so people understand it.

Content is important, but if no one sees it, who knows about it.

Everything is important, it's getting the right mix that matters.

DonovanPhillips
Those galleries convert because the girls look like real amatuers doing it for fun and not $$$. They are HONESTLY laid out, the tours shows what people are getting.

Paul Markham · 05-27-2003, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2
Hey Donovan isn't this your gallery?
http://dirty4free.com/ncg/abigail/index.htm

I think we should all emulate your style and put 67 pics on each gallery, we'd all be making more money then

The thing is to the surfer looking to pay there are 15 pictures, he just repeated each one 4 times. Bad.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-27-2003, 09:28 PM

Whats design got to do with any of this?

Elli · 05-27-2003, 09:28 PM

I've tried fancy and plain, and the middle ground seems to work best for me. This is my best converting gallery of all time. It's still doing great. Of course, it could be the content, too...

This gallery

KRL · 05-27-2003, 10:04 PM

It's all about the girl and her ability to make a sexually stimulating connection with the surfer.

Nothing else matters if that doesn't happen.

Bake · 05-27-2003, 11:21 PM

Simple galleries have there place , Good content that allmost tells the story for you allways helps. Very few use the most powerfull sales tool of all.

Elli · 05-28-2003, 01:12 AM

So what IS the most powerful sales tool of all?

hyper · 05-28-2003, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
So what IS the most powerful sales tool of all?

words

Lee · 05-28-2003, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pantymaniac

Can you pls post and good , really kick ass hosted gallery exemple pls...
i put on my site

If you join the TLC Hosting program you can get all of the Donovan Philips galleries sent via mail. Plus a few other sponsors too.

John3 · 05-28-2003, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Make it simple. The surfer doesn't care how cool your design is. This is one of my best converting galleries:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/donny/brandice/

The models not even cute. The gallery is just plain and straight forward.

Here's another that converts well:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/w...elle-04-05-03/

SO simple...

I was using that template back in 2000 for my Hun galleries. When did you start using it?

Also, I used in in 1999 for my AL4A slots . . .

Theo · 05-28-2003, 02:51 AM

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Originally posted by KRL
It's all about the girl

or the boy

donnovan,thanks for the mails,i didnt manage to reply to 2nd one cause the mailserver has some problem. Definitely i'll find a good use of them.

Bake · 05-28-2003, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
So what IS the most powerful sales tool of all?

Curiosity

flashfreak · 05-28-2003, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by John3

I was using that template back in 2000 for my Hun galleries. When did you start using it?

Also, I used in in 1999 for my AL4A slots . . .

muauhahahahahah... donovanshittyphilips you started again to steal other people work?
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!
FUCK YOU!!!

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=93241

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=2#post1170439

Validus · 05-28-2003, 04:44 AM

I believe that if a designer has a balanced work load, with some creative work and some more ?simpler? work he/she does a better job. Designers are by nature creative people and want to show it, therefore if they get a project they want to show their creative abilities. If at all possible, giving them 2 kinds of project is the best, such as TGP galleries and a new layout for the corporate web site. Just my thoughts.

FlyingIguana · 05-28-2003, 05:01 AM

you mean surfers don't jerk off to fancy logo's? wtf?

Ray@TastyDollars · 05-28-2003, 05:48 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana
you mean surfers don't jerk off to fancy logo's? wtf?

AdultNex · 05-28-2003, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
you mean surfers don't jerk off to fancy logo's? wtf?

Hell yeah, as a designer, I do.

natas · 05-28-2003, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
you mean surfers don't jerk off to fancy logo's? wtf?

hahahaha

magnatique · 05-28-2003, 02:45 PM

my two best galleries ever were way different..

one was totally HTML work... but different then the pack.. simpler, but not like everyone's...

the other one was graphical, with more graphic and a theme that went with the site..

but not simple..

I cannot sell simple... I tried.. not working for me ;)

MetaMan · 05-28-2003, 02:51 PM

when will u ever learn ur 20 teen sites wont converts,
shit new idea hoes on a bus.

ill call it Hoe Bus.

Donny · 05-28-2003, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2
Hey Donovan isn't this your gallery?
http://dirty4free.com/ncg/abigail/index.htm

I think we should all emulate your style and put 67 pics on each gallery, we'd all be making more money then

Let me tell you something about that gallery, dumb ass... it was a gamble that paid off. I took a LOT of heat for that gallery from the people on this board because I sent it to The Hun and got accepted. The Hun saw me getting chewed up here and emailed me personally asking about my conversions off of his traffic.

Since then, because of people like you that ripped on me, he's listed my galleries almost EVERY SINGLE DAY.

So, thanks for ripping me.

Donny · 05-28-2003, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak

muauhahahahahah... donovanshittyphilips you started again to steal other people work?
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!

That gallery was created using Arles Image Web Page Creator and then adding some text.

NOT stolen asshole.

Snake Doctor · 05-28-2003, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips

Let me tell you something about that gallery, dumb ass... it was a gamble that paid off. I took a LOT of heat for that gallery from the people on this board because I sent it to The Hun and got accepted. The Hun saw me getting chewed up here and emailed me personally asking about my conversions off of his traffic.

Since then, because of people like you that ripped on me, he's listed my galleries almost EVERY SINGLE DAY.

So, thanks for ripping me.

Yeah I remember that thread, you told us all to go fuck ourselves because you had 4 signups off of that hun listings and thought you were the bees knees.

4 signups off a hun listing and he's giving us advice on how to make galleries that convert.

05-28-2003, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Make it simple. The surfer doesn't care how cool your design is. This is one of my best converting galleries:
http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/donny/brandice/

The models not even cute. The gallery is just plain and straight forward.
Here's another that converts well:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/w...elle-04-05-03/
SO simple...

I am happy to see this thread.... So many critizie about having fancy stuff... but amateur starts amateur its not static it growsssss... If you don't have the fancy stuff etc... some think you suck....

start slowly but surely...

THanks this is encouraging !!!

05-28-2003, 10:22 PM

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05-27-2003, 07:30 PM	#1
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	When Will Designers Learn: Simple Galleries Convert Best Make it simple. The surfer doesn't care how cool your design is. This is one of my best converting galleries: http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/donny/brandice/ The models not even cute. The gallery is just plain and straight forward. Here's another that converts well: http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/w...elle-04-05-03/ SO simple...

05-27-2003, 07:33 PM	#5
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	I like simple too.. __________________

05-27-2003, 07:39 PM	#10
dchottie Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 894	I agree that less is more. Some of my best converting galleries before I ever started building my own were Nasty Dollar galleries using their gallery builder.. You can't get any more plain than that but they converted damn well. I don't think it's so much the designer that is doing the graphics heavy flashy galleries I think that's more what the client wants. Usually those that don't or can't design opt to go for the really snazzy looks fantastic type of gallery and snub those that tend to make galleries a little less showy. __________________

05-27-2003, 08:34 PM	#23
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	When did you become the expert on gallery conversions? My worst converting gallery might do better than your best converting gallery. Just because its "your" best doesn't mean its "the" best. And the gallery you posted has 16 pics and 7 sponsor links, it'd be kinda hard not to get clicks off of that, of course getting it listed and getting traffic to it is another story. __________________ sig too big

05-27-2003, 08:36 PM	#24
DeanCapture Haters & Trolls SUCK! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9,275	Nice rack on this one - she's a little cutie __________________ Twitter: @DeanCapture Instagram: @TheDeanCapture DeanCapture "at" Gmail.com

05-27-2003, 07:30 PM	#2
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	lil2rich4u2 where u at? new galleries for ya

05-27-2003, 07:32 PM	#4
nxventures Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 574	You need to add some 1337 h4x0r DHTML and flash movies to that page. .

05-27-2003, 07:34 PM	#7
SpaceAce Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Magrathea Posts: 6,493	It's not all about conversions, though. I've made some galleries where the conversions aren't so hot but the enormous number of surfers pulled more than makes up for it. SpaceAce

05-27-2003, 07:51 PM	#19
Trolleater Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,441	I've been told my gallery designs convert very well ;) Samples: http://www.paysites4sale.com/gallerysamples.html

05-27-2003, 08:31 PM	#21
Trolleater Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,441	thanks

05-27-2003, 08:42 PM	#25
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Hey Donovan isn't this your gallery? http://dirty4free.com/ncg/abigail/index.htm I think we should all emulate your style and put 67 pics on each gallery, we'd all be making more money then __________________ sig too big

05-27-2003, 08:56 PM	#26
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	The situation with most people is they tend to think that what they are good at is the thing that matters most, in some instances it's all that matters. Unfortunately in life this is not always the case. I think content is king, designers thinks design is, some think it's the concept of a site, a lot think traffic is. Is this because the only way they can effect the the maount they earn is by improving what they are good at and ignotre the things they are weak at. Design is important, but remember the guy with his CC out also has his dick out. So is he looking at the pretty logo and background or the chicks? Traffic is important, but no matter how much you drive pass a pieca of shit it still stinks. The concept is important, but you have to have the ability to present it in the right way so people understand it. Content is important, but if no one sees it, who knows about it. Everything is important, it's getting the right mix that matters. DonovanPhillips Those galleries convert because the girls look like real amatuers doing it for fun and not $$$. They are HONESTLY laid out, the tours shows what people are getting. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

05-27-2003, 09:28 PM	#28
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05-27-2003, 09:28 PM	#29
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	I've tried fancy and plain, and the middle ground seems to work best for me. This is my best converting gallery of all time. It's still doing great. Of course, it could be the content, too... This gallery __________________ email: [email protected]

05-27-2003, 10:04 PM	#30
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05-27-2003, 11:21 PM	#31
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05-28-2003, 01:12 AM	#32
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05-28-2003, 04:44 AM	#39
Validus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 4,012	I believe that if a designer has a balanced work load, with some creative work and some more ?simpler? work he/she does a better job. Designers are by nature creative people and want to show it, therefore if they get a project they want to show their creative abilities. If at all possible, giving them 2 kinds of project is the best, such as TGP galleries and a new layout for the corporate web site. Just my thoughts.

05-28-2003, 05:01 AM	#40
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	you mean surfers don't jerk off to fancy logo's? wtf?

05-28-2003, 02:45 PM	#44
magnatique Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,830	my two best galleries ever were way different.. one was totally HTML work... but different then the pack.. simpler, but not like everyone's... the other one was graphical, with more graphic and a theme that went with the site.. but not simple.. I cannot sell simple... I tried.. not working for me ;) __________________ Stunner Media Programs: StandAhead \| IndieBucks \| BoyCrushCash \| Phoenixxx \| EmoProfits \| BritishBucks \| HunkMoney \| LatinoBucks Make $$$ with Gay! Lowest Minimum Payouts in the Business, Perfect Track Record, Amazing Sites

05-28-2003, 02:51 PM	#45
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	when will u ever learn ur 20 teen sites wont converts, shit new idea hoes on a bus. ill call it Hoe Bus.