Adult affiliate programs that raise the minimum payout so not to pay - GoFuckYourself.com

Tagir · 10-18-2022, 10:29 PM

Now everything is selling very badly, but they deliberately raise the minimum payout in order not to make a payment, because many webmasters simply will not reach it!

$100 has always been the standard! I suggest making a list of these affiliate programs!

caramelcash.com - raised to $500

sexmexcash.com - raised to $300 (these guys have never paid on time, always had to extort money from them for months.)

kuprum · 10-19-2022, 12:01 AM

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fuzebox · 10-19-2022, 12:37 AM

I don't think anyone raises their minimum "not to pay", they raise their minimum because issuing small payments is a pain in the ass.

Klen · 10-19-2022, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

I don't think anyone raises their minimum "not to pay", they raise their minimum because issuing small payments is a pain in the ass.

Why pain in the ass? Is it so hard to write 50$ in internet banking/paxum/whatever instead 500$ ? Lol

todservices · 10-19-2022, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

I don't think anyone raises their minimum "not to pay", they raise their minimum because issuing small payments is a pain in the ass.

they raise minimum DEFINITELY to avoid paying those affiliates who they KNOW will never reach $300 or $500

Making a $100 payment on Paxum is easy and takes the exact same time as doing a $500 payment

brassmonkey · 10-19-2022, 01:33 AM

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DVTimes · 10-19-2022, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Tagir

Now everything is selling very badly, but they deliberately raise the minimum payout in order not to make a payment, because many webmasters simply will not reach it!

$100 has always been the standard! I suggest making a list of these affiliate programs!

caramelcash.com - raised to $500

sexmexcash.com - raised to $300 (these guys have never paid on time, always had to extort money from them for months.)

At one point it used to be $50 or even $0.

Some still pay whatever you make.

I have seen one that min was $1000.

Then some will ask for docs to prove who you.

SpicyM · 10-19-2022, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by todservices

Making a $100 payment on Paxum is easy and takes the exact same time as doing a $500 payment

Making 50 payments of $100 takes much longer than making 10 payments of $500 to affiliates with significant traffic. Not to mention that those 50 tiny payouts must be recorder in accounting, which again means extra work that costs the company extra money.

Klen · 10-19-2022, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM

Making 50 payments of $100 takes much longer than making 10 payments of $500 to affiliates with significant traffic. Not to mention that those 50 tiny payouts must be recorder in accounting, which again means extra work that costs the company extra money.

It does cost extra accounting, but not that big to make it too big cost.
And when you do mass payment, all you had to do is to add extra line as usually most of modern payment systems support mass payment.

mainstreammix · 10-19-2022, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM

Making 50 payments of $100 takes much longer than making 10 payments of $500 to affiliates with significant traffic. Not to mention that those 50 tiny payouts must be recorder in accounting, which again means extra work that costs the company extra money.

So much apologizing for complete nonsense. I've paid people 7 days per week before, scripts make that take zero effort.

SpicyM · 10-19-2022, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen

It does cost extra accounting, but not that big to make it too big cost.
And when you do mass payment, all you had to do is to add extra line as usually most of modern payment systems support mass payment.

You might be right, haven't used Paxum for years and don't plan to use it again. Wire is much more better and hassle free, despite the cost.

But then dealing with small affiliates with tiny traffic is again time consuming, so that might be the reason why they raise the minimum - to simply deter those not worth the time. A large amount of small affiliates means more time spent answering their questions, more time spent checking their sites if they are legit, more time spent preparing promo content for them... only to find out that they are feasting on my site name in Google search results to promote their cam sponsors and sell traffic while having pirated content on their shitty tubes.

If I had an affiliate program, I would set the minimum to $500 as well.

nikki99 · 10-19-2022, 09:42 AM

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brassmonkey · 10-19-2022, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by nikki99

see my sig, SMC revenue

they didn't increase anything

fuzebox · 10-19-2022, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Klen

It does cost extra accounting, but not that big to make it too big cost.
And when you do mass payment, all you had to do is to add extra line as usually most of modern payment systems support mass payment.

I wasn't trying to argue how much time it could take to do small payments, I was correcting the OP that programs are not setting higher minimums for the purpose of stealing dozens of dollars from tiny affiliates.

fuzebox · 10-19-2022, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM

But then dealing with small affiliates with tiny traffic is again time consuming, so that might be the reason why they raise the minimum - to simply deter those not worth the time. A large amount of small affiliates means more time spent answering their questions, more time spent checking their sites if they are legit, more time spent preparing promo content for them... only to find out that they are feasting on my site name in Google search results to promote their cam sponsors and sell traffic while having pirated content on their shitty tubes.

If I had an affiliate program, I would set the minimum to $500 as well.

Exactly

Affiliate programs used to have a level of scale where it made sense to issue a large amount of small payments, and high margins to eat the cost. Nowadays if someone sends 3 sales and demands a $50 payout, they are usually wasting your time.

brassmonkey · 10-19-2022, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Exactly

Affiliate programs used to have a level of scale where it made sense to issue a large amount of small payments, and high margins to eat the cost. Nowadays if someone sends 3 sales and demands a $50 payout, they are usually wasting your time.

yeah gamma is wasting their time. LOL @ tiny affiliates.

plsureking · 10-20-2022, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen

It does cost extra accounting, but not that big to make it too big cost.
And when you do mass payment, all you had to do is to add extra line as usually most of modern payment systems support mass payment.

yo Klen! when are you going to add a like button?

a reply isn't always necessary when a like will do lol

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Klen · 10-20-2022, 12:57 AM

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yo Klen! when are you going to add a like button?

a reply isn't always necessary when a like will do lol

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That's not my department

k0nr4d · 10-20-2022, 02:41 AM

While it's shitty for smaller affiliates, it absolutely makes sense from a financial point of view. It's not to not-pay smaller affiliates - it's to scare them off entirely. You signed up with a smaller min payout, but there are others that will still sign up, see that and just not send traffic.

My accountant wanted to know how many documents I produce a month and priced me out based on that. If I suddenly had to produce 10x the documents because I was doing $50 instead of $500 payouts, it would be much more expensive. Plus the payout fees, I think you have to pay paxum $1 per transaction as a business (also wire fees for instance if you are doing bank transfers etc), Plus the additional labor of doing that many more payouts (more staff hours) etc and the fact that an affiliate that brings in only enough sales to meet a $50 minimum every 3 months isn't really making the program any money - they'd rather focus on larger affiliates making more sales, contacting them, asking what they need to make even more sales...

Denny · 10-20-2022, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Plus the payout fees, I think you have to pay paxum $1 per transaction as a business (also wire fees for instance if you are doing bank transfers etc),

Programs usually charge these fees to the affiliate.

Denny · 10-20-2022, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen

It does cost extra accounting, but not that big to make it too big cost.
And when you do mass payment, all you had to do is to add extra line as usually most of modern payment systems support mass payment.

Klen · 10-20-2022, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

While it's shitty for smaller affiliates, it absolutely makes sense from a financial point of view. It's not to not-pay smaller affiliates - it's to scare them off entirely. You signed up with a smaller min payout, but there are others that will still sign up, see that and just not send traffic.

My accountant wanted to know how many documents I produce a month and priced me out based on that. If I suddenly had to produce 10x the documents because I was doing $50 instead of $500 payouts, it would be much more expensive. Plus the payout fees, I think you have to pay paxum $1 per transaction as a business (also wire fees for instance if you are doing bank transfers etc), Plus the additional labor of doing that many more payouts (more staff hours) etc and the fact that an affiliate that brings in only enough sales to meet a $50 minimum every 3 months isn't really making the program any money - they'd rather focus on larger affiliates making more sales, contacting them, asking what they need to make even more sales...

Get a new accountant, problem solved

So looks like the root of this problem is using overpriced accountants

The Porn Nerd · 10-20-2022, 06:51 AM

That's why you should only promote CCBill products!
Combine your earnings into a single payout, $50 minimum.

Whenever you leave it up to the AP to pay you there's potential for a problem.

plsureking · 10-20-2022, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen

That's not my department

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NatalieK · 10-20-2022, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

I don't think anyone raises their minimum "not to pay", they raise their minimum because issuing small payments is a pain in the ass.

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Originally Posted by Klen

Why pain in the ass? Is it so hard to write 50$ in internet banking/paxum/whatever instead 500$ ? Lol

TBH, not even that kind of hassle, isn´t it computerized?

I think the billing companies have the fault, they up their payment processing costs

NatalieK · 10-20-2022, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny

Programs usually charge these fees to the affiliate.

i´ve always paid the billing fees as a program, and most programs I am with pay the billing fee, the only fee´s I end up paying is banking fees and not the processing as an affiliate

Denny · 10-20-2022, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NatalieK

i´ve always paid the billing fees as a program, and most programs I am with pay the billing fee, the only fee´s I end up paying is banking fees and not the processing as an affiliate

I don't mean billing fees, I mean fees involved when affiliates get paid by Paxum, bank wire etc.

k0nr4d · 10-20-2022, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen

Get a new accountant, problem solved

So looks like the root of this problem is using overpriced accountants

What about stuff like wire fees? I've seen USD wires cost from $20 to even $50. It's not like in europe where we pay 50 cents.

digitalfantasies · 10-20-2022, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

What about stuff like wire fees? I've seen USD wires cost from $20 to even $50. It's not like in europe where we pay 50 cents.

But the cost of transaction/wire fees is for the affiliate, right?

If not, I've been screwed for years lol

martinandrews · 10-20-2022, 12:47 PM

MyFreeSexStore.com affiliate program is 200.00 before a payout.

brassmonkey · 10-20-2022, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by digitalfantasies

But the cost of transaction/wire fees is for the affiliate, right?

If not, I've been screwed for years lol

some of the bigger places dont rip affiliates

fuzebox · 10-20-2022, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

yeah gamma is wasting their time.

The largest paysite affiliate program still operating in the industry. Great example.

brassmonkey · 10-20-2022, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

The largest paysite affiliate program still operating in the industry. Great example.

they pay when you earn

no bullshit. your share is your share. no bitching about how small the amount like you don't have a right to claim your money LOL you trippin!

LeRoy · 10-20-2022, 06:25 PM

Some affiliate programs don't like working with the little guys. They bitch and complain on the boards and this is an example of that. They just want to work with the whale affiliates. Sad but true.

brassmonkey · 10-20-2022, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LeRoy

Some affiliate programs don't like working with the little guys. They bitch and complain on the boards and this is an example of that. They just want to work with the whale affiliates. Sad but true.

well let them close the fucking doors. you call it bitching demanding what is owed?? wow

LeRoy · 10-20-2022, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

well let them close the fucking doors. you call it bitching demanding what is owed?? wow

They're not my programs. I'm just telling it how it is. I've met with these types of program owners at shows too. You should know me by now monkey.. I'm not the type to sugar coat shit!

AMDWarrior · 10-20-2022, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tagir

Now everything is selling very badly, but they deliberately raise the minimum payout in order not to make a payment, because many webmasters simply will not reach it!

$100 has always been the standard! I suggest making a list of these affiliate programs!

caramelcash.com - raised to $500

sexmexcash.com - raised to $300 (these guys have never paid on time, always had to extort money from them for months.)

You have no idea what you're talking about..lol

brassmonkey · 10-20-2022, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LeRoy

They're not my programs. I'm just telling it how it is. I've met with these types of program owners at shows too. You should know me by now monkey.. I'm not the type to sugar coat shit!

i did not say you sugar coated anything...

LeRoy · 10-20-2022, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

i did not say you sugar coated anything...

Ok then stfu! Why bother to respond to me? You know I don't like you. Get to steppin! Go fuck off!

brassmonkey · 10-20-2022, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LeRoy

Ok then stfu! Why bother to respond to me? You know I don't like you. Get to steppin! Go fuck off!

why are you responding? hot tempered as usual

emmasexytime · 10-20-2022, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

While it's shitty for smaller affiliates, it absolutely makes sense from a financial point of view. It's not to not-pay smaller affiliates - it's to scare them off entirely. You signed up with a smaller min payout, but there are others that will still sign up, see that and just not send traffic.

My accountant wanted to know how many documents I produce a month and priced me out based on that. If I suddenly had to produce 10x the documents because I was doing $50 instead of $500 payouts, it would be much more expensive. Plus the payout fees, I think you have to pay paxum $1 per transaction as a business (also wire fees for instance if you are doing bank transfers etc), Plus the additional labor of doing that many more payouts (more staff hours) etc and the fact that an affiliate that brings in only enough sales to meet a $50 minimum every 3 months isn't really making the program any money - they'd rather focus on larger affiliates making more sales, contacting them, asking what they need to make even more sales...

you don't have an affiliate program do you?

Klen · 10-21-2022, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

What about stuff like wire fees? I've seen USD wires cost from $20 to even $50. It's not like in europe where we pay 50 cents.

Cost of wire is passed on affiliate so not really a reason for high minimum. Tho in this case i would apply minimum by myself since it would be pointless to pay 50$ fee for a amount less then 500$ .

k0nr4d · 10-21-2022, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by emmasexytime

you don't have an affiliate program do you?

I'm planning to fire one up soon

Denny · 10-21-2022, 01:58 AM

Of course it doesn't make sense to have $50 minimum when wire fee is $20-$40. Most programs have different minimum for wire (higher) than for Paxum for example.

LeRoy · 10-21-2022, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

why are you responding? hot tempered as usual

Nah.When it comes to affiliate programs. You're just dumb as fuck and it shows. Stick to what you're good at..trolling. How many awards do you have for that now?

brassmonkey · 10-21-2022, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LeRoy

Nah.When it comes to affiliate programs. You're just dumb as fuck and it shows. Stick to what you're good at..trolling. How many awards do you have for that now?

that coming from an affiliate rep on a public forum

ANAL PASTE · 10-21-2022, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LeRoy

Nah.When it comes to affiliate programs. You're just dumb as fuck and it shows. Stick to what you're good at..trolling. How many awards do you have for that now?

You nailed it.

ANAL PASTE · 10-21-2022, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

that coming from an affiliate rep on a public forum

You should open your own affiliate program. www.ClownCash.tk

LeRoy · 10-21-2022, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

that coming from an affiliate rep on a public forum

Wrong again monkey! I left my affiliate manager position back in 2015. I'm a sig whoring affiliate just like you only successful ;)

nikki99 · 10-21-2022, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

they didn't increase anything

my mistake, I misread

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