Tagir

I just found out(((

Now all that's left are checks and ACH (U.S. Banks Only)

How can get payments now?

BigFurry

Whole EU or just UK?

There was someone reporting earlier that CCBILL wouldn't set up SEPA for UK bank accounts.

Hentai Center

cause of what reason?

redwhiteandblue

Is this what they've told you? Are you in the EU?

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kikk2020

I get my payout 1/4 to my Yoursafe account and I just went on CCBILL live support to confirm when I read your post, no issue at all, so not sure what your issue is but ask the support and they will help you.

MaDalton

Don't think a separate SEPA account for UK would be necessary.

I also don't understand what is so difficult in 2024 - they can just open a SEPA account, transfer money there and then pay people from this.

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BigFurry

Of course. What I meant is that they refuse to send SEPA to UK bank accounts apparently. Even though it should work without any issues, the same as to any other SEPA country. (Because UK remained in the SEPA system after Brexit.)

KinkyKinkyTom

it doesn't appear to be UK related. My bank account is in Germany, SEPA capable, but same thing, CCBill required me to switch to checks.

redwhiteandblue

It's not about UK bank accounts. The compliance team first told me that they could see the IBAN code was SEPA compatible. But then they told me that their accounts team informed them that SEPA is "not accessible for affiliates at this time". They didn't single out the UK in that.

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Captcha

they gonna pay you with a thing from the Paleozoic Era called "check"

femdomdestiny

Isn't yoursafe asking money to be sent to their company name? Since CCbill sends money this way (not in your name)?

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kikk2020

They send to my Yoursafe company account and that account is owned by the same company that I have my CCbill account.

BigFurry

Yoursafe EUR bank accounts are under your own name with your own IBAN, can be used for receiving SEPA directly.

However if you want to receive another currency (for example USD Wire), the sender has to send to it to Yoursafe's bank account that's under their company name, and add your account to the Wire memo text.

Captcha

So, can I receive CCbill money with Yoursafe?
CCBill pay with US Dollars, right? Well, at least in Yoursafe site, only biz accounts is allowed to receive US dollars

fuzebox

Will they send to Wise?

Captcha

No. I tried once


Seems each one of us is getting an answer, but support said:

Tagir

Apparently they won't pay anymore! Because most simply cannot use the remaining payment methods! Ideal scheme(((((

Pornopat

Yes. Dollar/euro

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Tagir

Apparently Ccbill will rip soon((((

The management has decided to remove SEPA payment method for affiliates! Even the support said that this was an unexpected decision for them. But they left it for the merchants!

There may be a refusal to pay affiliates altogether, although even now not many can receive checks or ACH!

This is strange, Ccbill has nothing unique, epoch has paypal, centro has crypto, they have nothing special! They also increase the fees!

sawaporn

it was a really unpleasant surprise. It would seem that it could be even worse - outdated software, with bugs, errors, a slow interface, broken links. But here you have paper checks in envelopes. I already imagined a postman from a western loading a box of letters onto his stagecoach. Well, it’s time for me to travel - I’m going to Europe, I need to deliver these letters to affiliates. We'll meet in a couple of years...if there are no robbers along the way.

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BigFurry

So it's real. Damn, that's a big blow. A lot of EU affiliates will leave CCBILL programs.

Captcha

they said once again, wise is not an option

MaDalton

I have not seen a paper check in 10+ years - and even back then my bank had exactly one person who knew what to do with it.

Plus a $40 fee to cash it

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TBFS

I dont have wise, so i cant test this yet, but why would this not be an option with the ACH payment method? wise accepts ACH payments after all


yeh its horrid... here in the entire country you are even unable to cash any cheques at all (been this way since 2021)

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BigFurry

They should add Paxum as an option if they can't send bank transfers worldwide anymore

TBFS

Yeh i would be happy with that (heck, any payment method i can actually receive would be nice :P)

Not much use promoting a program if they cant pay me

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Denny

Glad, I don't actively promote any CCbill program anymore.

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Tagir

Judging by the number of responses in this thread, it seems that indeed very few affiliates promote any ccbill programs((((

The Porn Nerd

Running a CCBill Program (several actually) this upsets me BIG TIME. It would seem the way to go for us PO's is to switch to NATS but include CCBill in the payment cascade so that those (US-based) affiliates who do not want to change links can continue to get paid via CCBill while EU-based affiliates can get paid via Paxum or whatever.

Another added cost but if it means retaining over half my affiliates then I would do it. What say you, GFY community? Is this a solution?

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CrazyMartin

i still promote many ccbill programs, but its time to remove all ccbill links

this is the beginning of end of ccbill

femdomdestiny

now they bare asking me shitload of documents, after 15 or more years being an affiliate.

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mechanicvirus

Do people in this thread not realize that CCbill does billing for onlyfans? They will be fine, doubt they are going anywhere.

Fotex

That is, without having a US bank account, there's absolutely no way to receive ACH in Europe?

femdomdestiny

why are they shutting down the established business model and ruining non-USA webmasters?

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Axeman

And even if they didn't, the make a killing with their data centers these days.

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femdomdestiny

I am trying to find a solution as an affiliate but I can't. We should call this mess by its proper name.
CCbill is holding money. There are probably tons of small affiliates from Europe that will just give up and quit on that money which will stay at CCbill.

Most importantly, how it is possible not to notify affiliates they will lose the option to get paid? As we all know ACH is not working in Europe and checks are not a solution for any country that managed to for every state that managed to move away from 1885.

I just wanted to withdraw over 3K from there, but in other words. they won't pay, no matter how politely email communication is tailored.

In previous decades, I always used to say that if I have trust in someone, then it is CCbill. Even more than a fucking bank. They never missed a payment and no matter how bad their tracking software was, I could rely on them. This is insane. Are they trying to get away from affiliate business model and this is their way?

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femdomdestiny

I am reading on some forums Wise is also planning to move away from small users and concentrate on B2B. Not sure if is this true.

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femdomdestiny

They are talking shit. Every time I needed their service, something was missing in the process. Last info, they are not accepting INCOMING ach, only outgoing. Idiots.

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Temma

terrible situation

redwhiteandblue

I wonder what has caused them to do this? Surely sending out SEPA payments is easier than mailing a ton of checks every week? I just wonder if they're getting ready to drop the affiliate capability altogether like Epoch did.

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BigFurry

Probably banking issues. Hopefully they will find a provider that can handle their worldwide affiliate payments.

I think it's not a valid argument that they don't care because they bill for OnlyFans. That's probably not set in stone, companies switch billing companies all the time when they get a better offer. CCBILL can't bet their whole future on a single customer.

femdomdestiny

this was my thought immediately, relying on one or a few big partners would be crazy. Still, many companies are doing this. Knowing the history of CCbill, this kind of behavior is unexpected and strange.

But the most frustrating and stupidest thing is a decision not to notify affiliates about such an important thing. It will ruin credibility from this moment. Also, not telling where the problem is and are planning to fix it is another problem.

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BigFurry

Hopefully they didn't announce because they don't consider it final, and they are hoping to find a solution in a short timeframe.

Fotex

Has anyone tried using payoneer.com, wise.com or another service to accept ACH payments to Europe?

JasonCollins

Is anyone still active on GFY from the CCBill team?

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just a punk

I thought UK uses BACS...

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Temma

terrible situation

Tagir

CCBill doesn't have any issues with SEPA payments; they continue to accept them on websites, but they've simply decided not to use them to pay affiliates!

Sec

Wise doesn't allow adult content such as pornography, so Wise may terminate your Wise account if you receive payments to it from CCBill.