cordoba

What is the best way to find suitable (paid) banklinks? Is it mainly using a tool like Semrush to analyze rivals and find where they are likely paying for backlinks?

I have never paid for a backlink before in nearly 20 years, but I finally decided that if you can't beat them, join them.

The Porn Nerd

Backlinks help with SEO not necassarily with sales. If this is what you want you should be able to find some good ones here on GFY.

Have luck (as they say).

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mrmister

Simple

If a site gets organic traffic and there's been no huge peaks with drops then buy a link on it

If the site gets no organic traffic then it's useless. Even if the site is DA 80

I've seen tons of people here asking 500 dollars for a link on a site with no organic traffic

If Google doesn't rank that site then how will it help rank yours?

TurboB

Do Links From Pages With Traffic Help You Rank Higher? [Ahrefs Study]
https://ahrefs.com/blog/links-with-traffic-study/

mrmister

To be fair that is 5 years old article and a lot has changed since then. Good read though. Certainly opened my eyes a bit. Still not spending 700 dollars on a blatant link farm though :D

I also think placement of link is important. What do you think?

Tjeezers

good luck in your search!

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TurboB

Well, some people are getting very good results by buying homepage links on PBNs without traffic (general niche, real PBNs on strong expired domains).

Of course, links should be in content - strongest ones.
Footer links maybe has no value at all.
Sidebar - ???
Header or footer site-wide links = spam. At least in general niche. Hard to say about adult.

2intense

Use Semrush and check the competitor's backlink profile. You will be surprised to see that 90% of the backlinks have zero traffic and many are not even indexed on Google.

Conclusion: every backlink counts, even no-follow links are helping with ranking. Don't listen to every shit "SEO experts" are writing or what Google is saying. Backlinks are the #1 ranking factor, every shit can rank with the right backlinks.

Every SEO expert and Google will say to avoid buying backlinks, but every fking brand buys backlinks.

Good luck to you and OP for finding the best backlinks.

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mrmister

I've seen some linklist sites with over 1k refering sites which get like 1k organic monthly and their backlink profile looks strong

Then I've seen others with like 40 refering sites but pulling over 60k plus organic monthly

Google is a strange beast

I mean look at nudelive.com. not many refering domains yet over 1 mil monthly. Not much text and basic desifb

Compare that to cambb. 1k plus refering domains. Immaculate text and design. Yet 100k ( still good )

mrmister

Yeah I've had good success on a site I bought only guest posts for. I even bought links on sex toy sites and mainstream sites " the best xxx sites around " etc and ranked pretty well

2intense

I agree with contextual backlinks(the best ones), but I am not that sure about header-footer- site-wide links. (site bar links were the worst, at least for me)

Regarding header-footer-site-wide: I know many sites that rank very very well with 100 referring domains and 2.8 million total backlinks. These are header-footer-site-wide.

Every domain gets a different impact from those kinds of backlinks. The stronger your domain is, the better it can handle those incoming links. Start with contextual(1 page) links and when your domain is strong enough you can go wild.

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2intense

that 1k organic targeted traffic can make more money than 100k shitty organic traffic. Yes, there is shitty organic traffic.

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TurboB

On August 08-13th I bought backlinks on 6 strong sites (with traffic) homepage sidebars for 2 of my similar sites. The sites are couple of years old, having similar backlink profiles before - WEB2.0s, profiles, forum posts, etc.
The result:





On the same date range I also bought links in the content on very strong sites homepages with huge amounts of traffic for my 3rd site:



There is big drop few months later after these backlinks - I redirected this non-performing domain to a new one (fresh).
The result:



I trying to do good on-page SEO, fast sites.
Maybe this is too much? My sites has headings and 1k words of text, while competitors does not have any text at all and slow websites, and ranking good.

mrmister

Regarding first case. Maybe buying links too quickly was a bit Sus and Google punished you? Did you use branded anchors ?

TurboB

At first case they de-indexed homepage of my site - which was ranking high on good keywords.

I would say the opposite thing - first site is oldest one and had the most backlinks (referring domains).

The first 2 similar sites had mostly "domainname.com" anchors, and for these two I bought links with exact match keywords.

Later I removed these links to penalized first one site - no effect.

On penalized site I have about 0.5% of anchors of exact match keywords (each - it is 3-4).
On second similar site I have 3% of exact match anchors.

However, on site performing well it is 1.5% of "brand" anchors (domainname without .com), while on penalized it is 5%.

To be clear, it is EMD domains, and I consider "domainname" as brand and "domain name" as exact match keyword.

mrmister

I mean on August 15th you got spanked pretty damn hard. I'd be curious to know what happened

TurboB

Also, in GSC indexed pages report homepage exist, and after URL inspection it says it is indexed

I think SEO is a gamble totally.
Or find a working way to automate all things and spam hard.

mrmister

I saw this site https://stripchat.life/ check its backlink profile

all spam. most anchors mis spelt

now check this https://www.semrush.com/analytics/ov...rchType=domain

look at the growth

TurboB

It is using huge network of expired domains PBN. Some of these domains has really good backlink profiles. It is a huge investment. Can't find who sells these links. Many sites has backlinks on this network, but mostly is adult, gambling, pharma.
Also was stripchat.cool, but seems it got hit.

EDIT: And you can see they built big amount of backlinks (referring domains) in a short period of time. As I build 6 referring domains in a single day on 3 years site having ~300 referring domains over time and got homepage deindexed.

cordoba

Half of the first page of results for 'Strip Chat' appear to be the same guy using the same template and the same stripchat domain with a different crappy TLD. And they are linking to each other too.
Seems to be breaking every rule in the book, which suggests it's true that Google just doesn't apply the same rules to adult.
Surely he's also breaking the terms and conditions of Stripchat by using their name in his domain? Unless it is Stripchat trying to outrank affiliates.

cordoba

Thanks for all the advice in this thread, which I'm sure is useful to others too.

mrmister

Pretty sure it's stripchat themselves

TurboB

These same sites are Stripchat's whitelabels to outrank affiliates.

mopek1

I agree. Unless you are going crazy black hat like gsa spamming and just throwing every spammy link you can at your site, it's good to collect lots of links. All the big cam sites buy header links on as many adult websites as possible and spend thousands. They also have web 2.0, pbn and links from sites that look like they are dead.

But as mrmister said, Google is a strange beast. You might spend $50k on links and get 100k monthly traffic, while some newb creates his website and gets 200k monthly doing nothing. Over time links always help.

2intense

When I was talking about "every backlink counts", I wasn't referring to automated spam backlinks. I was referring to high, medium, and low-quality, but legit links.

Depending on your budget you can get only HQ links or a mix of all. For ex: for a site-wide backlink from a tube with 1 mil pages I would make it nofollow.

just my

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mopek1

Yeah I wasn't inferring you were, just adding to your post.

How do you find low quality legit links that are either cheap or free. The HQ and medium quality links are usually for sale and listed on gfy.

Colmike9

I used to make my own sites to trade with my other sites. Worked well.

I also had a secret thing that was so good, I did a test with a hosted tube by just putting up one link and in a couple months I had 2mil uniques from SEs. ...Only made $80 on it, though, lol, but still, the SEO part worked. (Remember how hard those were to rank?)

Don't buy links unless you work for a huge company and it's part of your job..

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Holy Damage

In my experience, you'll only get good results if you are willing spend a good amount of money on hardlinks (5 figures) ... thats why only big guys dominate the first results of google (deep wallet)

Colmike9

That's just what the guys selling links say..

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mopek1

Perhaps you are right. But all the big guys do spend on links. If you know of another way of getting good SEO traffic like the big guys without spending the $$, please let me know.

mrmister

Well if that someone had that information they certainly wouldn't let you know. Probably keep it for themselves :D

Holy Damage

maybe he believes in John Mueller's bullshit...content is king, yeah, all right... in porn everyone has the same shit on their sites and those who have big wallets will dominate serps

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Colmike9

lol not exactly, but you don't have to pay for backlinks to perform well, either.

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mrmister

Insane valuable info. Right on topic also

mopek1

I hear you. People arguing agaist what they can see with their own 2 eyes. Content is king for surfers. But for Google, especially in adult, backlinks are king. Now it doesn't mean you have to buy them, but in that case you need to spend some serious time ( a valuable resource) trying to find links another way; guest posts, a-b-c link trading, creating your own pbn and then having to continuously update them (more time). So either spend the money on backlinks and go back to making good content for your site, or hire someone to do al those other things I suggested (again; spend money). Or, work 14 hours a day trying to do it all and have no life.

Colmike9

Just saying, I didn't say that backlinks weren't important for SEO, just to not buy the links unless it's your job at one of the big companies. You'll run out of money.. lol

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mopek1

Ah, got it

I buy what I can afford and always try to get more. Not nearly what the tubes and big cams sites have but over time it adds up.

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Yeah, I found that out when working for Ruseful. You know, the whole filming with the government building in the background, made the mainstream news and had to pay like a $10,000 fine or something, then made a lot more than that in return..

Helped with branding, too.

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you just did 301 redirect to the new domain or have you used search console to change the address?

TurboB

Redirected 301 page-to-page to a new one, and confirmed change of address in GSC.

TeenCat

buy few domains, build some content on them, go to fiverr, buy some backlinks for them and check results. one in ten can hit good, so give him a job to boost one of your main sites ;) good luck ;)

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mopek1

Does Fiverr allow backlinks to adults sites?

TeenCat

not sure now but year ago or so no problem, and depends on the seller

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V_RocKs

Google is beginning to find this site spammy it seems.

mrmister

They had a good 3 to 6 months near the top. Maybe made a decent amount of money. Although people searching for stripchat may already be members

mrmister

Google is a strange beast. One of my webcam sites is ranking in top 5 for high comp keywords and it only has 45 refering domains. Mostly old sites with no traffic

I have a linklist with 150 refering domains from decent sites which gets hardly anything