The current Google status explained - GoFuckYourself.com

jojojo · 05-25-2003, 03:10 AM

I have been watching Google and WW for the last 3 weeks intensively and here is what I know so far:

On May 5th the update began and it used the data from Feb/March's Deepbot crawl instead of April's. On the non-public datacenters we began seeing those SERPS showing these old results in varioud different ways as they apparently tested several aspects of their algo and new changes that have been made to them. Over the last 20 days we have seen freshbot listings mixed in, sites completely dropped and then appear again several days later and several different datacenters feeding www and aol and yahoo.

The PR you see is/was fluctuating between this old data's PR (from March) and the most recent PR you had.

The backlinks you see are from the same old time frame also.

All 9 datacenters are basically lined up now but not quite.

www had pretty much settled today but now some other weird things are happening and it appears their is a mix of datacenters or something going on because some SERPS are changing their rankings a bit.

There was a lot of talk that the once a month update was going to be replaced by a continual rolling update but that is now being dowplayed by 'Googleguy' (he works for Google and posts on WW)

Originally he said they would gradually add in the new backlinks and new spam filters etc but now he is basically saying that it will happen at the next update and also to expect to see the same traditional style update each month for the next few months.

So all that really happened is that Google went backwards a few months with their data while they tested some new things.

On June 5-15th you will see the next update happen and should be current - using April's deepbot data but also be ranking the pages and calculating backlinks differently - in apparently a more evolved way.

So the bottom line is - don't worry if you have dropped in rankings or out completely or anything for that matter - everything will become clear and return to where they should be very soon

Nysus · 05-25-2003, 04:15 AM

Cool, thanks for that.

Cheers,
Matt

Damian_Maxcash · 05-25-2003, 04:44 AM

That shit scares me...... I dont know how you guys can get your heads around that stuff

PornBroker · 05-25-2003, 07:42 AM

thanks for the info
explains the weirdo shit happening

nxventures · 05-25-2003, 07:45 AM

I hope it happens soon, Google isn't even useful as a search engine any more, all the sites you get back are complete and utter shit... not to mention adwords have been giving SHITTY traffic recently.

adamneve · 05-25-2003, 07:48 AM

thanks for the update jojo

jojojo · 05-25-2003, 12:55 PM

np - I'll update GFY when something significant happens

funkmaster · 05-25-2003, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by jojojo
I have been watching Google and WW for the last 3 weeks intensively and here is what I know so far:

On May 5th the update began and it used the data from Feb/March's Deepbot crawl instead of April's. On the non-public datacenters we began seeing those SERPS showing these old results in varioud different ways as they apparently tested several aspects of their algo and new changes that have been made to them. Over the last 20 days we have seen freshbot listings mixed in, sites completely dropped and then appear again several days later and several different datacenters feeding www and aol and yahoo.

The PR you see is/was fluctuating between this old data's PR (from March) and the most recent PR you had.

The backlinks you see are from the same old time frame also.

All 9 datacenters are basically lined up now but not quite.

www had pretty much settled today but now some other weird things are happening and it appears their is a mix of datacenters or something going on because some SERPS are changing their rankings a bit.

There was a lot of talk that the once a month update was going to be replaced by a continual rolling update but that is now being dowplayed by 'Googleguy' (he works for Google and posts on WW)

Originally he said they would gradually add in the new backlinks and new spam filters etc but now he is basically saying that it will happen at the next update and also to expect to see the same traditional style update each month for the next few months.

So all that really happened is that Google went backwards a few months with their data while they tested some new things.

On June 5-15th you will see the next update happen and should be current - using April's deepbot data but also be ranking the pages and calculating backlinks differently - in apparently a more evolved way.

So the bottom line is - don't worry if you have dropped in rankings or out completely or anything for that matter - everything will become clear and return to where they should be very soon

...I get my 65k uniques per day and this is all that matters ...

jojojo · 05-25-2003, 03:24 PM

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...I get my 65k uniques per day and this is all that matters ...

Bling.

Shoplifter · 05-25-2003, 03:28 PM

What data center's are previewing the next results now?

StupidFuckingWhore · 05-25-2003, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by funkmaster

...I get my 65k uniques per day and this is all that matters ...

and you wonder why you make so much more money than some ppl? i sure hope you're making killer cash with those kinds of hits from google. wanna show me to how to?

funkmaster · 05-25-2003, 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by StupidFuckingWhore

and you wonder why you make so much more money than some ppl? i sure hope you're making killer cash with those kinds of hits from google. wanna show me to how to?

... I buy expired domains with pageranks above 3 ... link them all to doorway pages and redirect the incoming traffic ...

gruffy · 05-25-2003, 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by funkmaster
... I buy expired domains with pageranks above 3 ... link them all to doorway pages and redirect the incoming traffic ...

Exactly the kind of stuff google is tweaking its algo to exclude.

StupidFuckingWhore · 05-25-2003, 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by gruffy

Exactly the kind of stuff google is tweaking its algo to exclude.

yeah good idea but google doesn't like doorway sites.

funkmaster · 05-25-2003, 03:55 PM

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Originally posted by StupidFuckingWhore

yeah good idea but google doesn't like doorway sites.

... correct, my tricks stopped working today ... watch out sleazy, I´ll get into TGP now !!

gruffy · 05-25-2003, 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by StupidFuckingWhore

yeah good idea but google doesn't like doorway sites.

Just certain types of doorways.

I'm not preaching but I'm just saying, its a hell of a thing to try to rank "ethically" and stay there when they keep rewarding spam and punishing real sites with content.

Rockhound · 05-25-2003, 04:10 PM

might explain why my site dropped again in google ... used to be #1 for "busty babes" and is now around 11

Bill8 · 05-25-2003, 05:29 PM

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I'm not preaching but I'm just saying, its a hell of a thing to try to rank "ethically" and stay there when they keep rewarding spam and punishing real sites with content.
---------

Ain't that the truth. Very little that google has done has kept people from exploiting the pagerank of nonadult domains to push no content FPAs to the top of the serps.

ethics are clearly a liability in the SE game.

Anybody think this update has less spam than the epast updates?

Thanks for the report jojojo.

jojojo · 05-25-2003, 05:44 PM

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Anybody think this update has less spam than the epast updates?

No, actually it appears there is more spam than their was before the current www is a mess of old data and old filters.

APPARENTLY there are several new advanced spam filters that will be added prior to/during the upcoming update.

I know that the new expired domain filter and hidden text filter will be added for sure.

gruffy · 05-25-2003, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jojojo

No, actually it appears there is more spam than their was before the current www is a mess of old data and old filters.

APPARENTLY there are several new advanced spam filters that will be added prior to/during the upcoming update.

I know that the new expired domain filter and hidden text filter will be added for sure.

Their filters are pretty scary. I still see very basic cloaking sitting in the ranks for months on end.

This "expired domain filter" thing sounds interesting. Any confirmed details from google?

benthompson · 05-25-2003, 06:04 PM

jojojo · 05-25-2003, 06:11 PM

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This "expired domain filter" thing sounds interesting. Any confirmed details from google

Yes. Google has a representative from their company who posts in webmasterworld.com's 'Google News' forum. He is Google's direct source for conveying information and working witht webmasters in terms of SEO details, etc.

Webby · 05-25-2003, 08:33 PM

Mmmm... I can't see Google having any inclination to give "private" info out on the operation of the engine to anyone other than their "Ari Fleischer" - and that ain't gonna count for half a dime's worth of info

jojojo · 05-25-2003, 10:58 PM

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Mmmm... I can't see Google having any inclination to give "private" info out on the operation of the engine to anyone other than their "Ari Fleischer" - and that ain't gonna count for half a dime's worth of info

It's not private info. They supply the SEO community with as much information as they feel we require. Head over to webmasterworld and you can learn more about what Google is doing and saying.

Webby · 05-25-2003, 11:04 PM

Hi jojojo

Yes, understand! Did not intend to decry your comments - they are appreciated!

My comment was kinda answered by your reply:
"They supply the SEO community with as much information as they feel we require."

funkmaster · 05-26-2003, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jojojo
I know that the new expired domain filter and hidden text filter will be added for sure.

... you seem to know a lot of things, but can you play google ?? I doubt it !!

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05-25-2003, 12:55 PM	#7
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05-25-2003, 04:10 PM	#17
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05-25-2003, 03:10 AM	#1
jojojo Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,318	The current Google status explained I have been watching Google and WW for the last 3 weeks intensively and here is what I know so far: On May 5th the update began and it used the data from Feb/March's Deepbot crawl instead of April's. On the non-public datacenters we began seeing those SERPS showing these old results in varioud different ways as they apparently tested several aspects of their algo and new changes that have been made to them. Over the last 20 days we have seen freshbot listings mixed in, sites completely dropped and then appear again several days later and several different datacenters feeding www and aol and yahoo. The PR you see is/was fluctuating between this old data's PR (from March) and the most recent PR you had. The backlinks you see are from the same old time frame also. All 9 datacenters are basically lined up now but not quite. www had pretty much settled today but now some other weird things are happening and it appears their is a mix of datacenters or something going on because some SERPS are changing their rankings a bit. There was a lot of talk that the once a month update was going to be replaced by a continual rolling update but that is now being dowplayed by 'Googleguy' (he works for Google and posts on WW) Originally he said they would gradually add in the new backlinks and new spam filters etc but now he is basically saying that it will happen at the next update and also to expect to see the same traditional style update each month for the next few months. So all that really happened is that Google went backwards a few months with their data while they tested some new things. On June 5-15th you will see the next update happen and should be current - using April's deepbot data but also be ranking the pages and calculating backlinks differently - in apparently a more evolved way. So the bottom line is - don't worry if you have dropped in rankings or out completely or anything for that matter - everything will become clear and return to where they should be very soon __________________ Learn SEO - make $$ residually - icq me 333485092

05-25-2003, 04:15 AM	#2
Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	Cool, thanks for that. Cheers, Matt

05-25-2003, 04:44 AM	#3
Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	That shit scares me...... I dont know how you guys can get your heads around that stuff

05-25-2003, 07:42 AM	#4
PornBroker Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 686	thanks for the info explains the weirdo shit happening

05-25-2003, 07:45 AM	#5
nxventures Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 574	I hope it happens soon, Google isn't even useful as a search engine any more, all the sites you get back are complete and utter shit... not to mention adwords have been giving SHITTY traffic recently.

05-25-2003, 03:28 PM	#10
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,726	What data center's are previewing the next results now?

05-25-2003, 05:29 PM	#18
Bill8 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,901	--------- I'm not preaching but I'm just saying, its a hell of a thing to try to rank "ethically" and stay there when they keep rewarding spam and punishing real sites with content. --------- Ain't that the truth. Very little that google has done has kept people from exploiting the pagerank of nonadult domains to push no content FPAs to the top of the serps. ethics are clearly a liability in the SE game. Anybody think this update has less spam than the epast updates? Thanks for the report jojojo.

05-25-2003, 08:33 PM	#23
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Mmmm... I can't see Google having any inclination to give "private" info out on the operation of the engine to anyone other than their "Ari Fleischer" - and that ain't gonna count for half a dime's worth of info

05-25-2003, 11:04 PM	#25
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Hi jojojo Yes, understand! Did not intend to decry your comments - they are appreciated! My comment was kinda answered by your reply: "They supply the SEO community with as much information as they feel we require."