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09-05-2023, 05:47 PM

Hey,

In may, one of my sites got manual action for thin content and Since then I have changed many part of the site.. Added to robots.txt to no index search, photo, tags
Added to search meta no index.
Removed 13k dublicated videos, 23k tags.
Removed my multi language section ( was google translated) and I redirect the subdomains to main.
And still getting rejected... How to find the real issue? Any help/idea please?

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09-06-2023, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by thiva7

Hey,

In may, one of my sites got manual action for thin content and Since then I have changed many part of the site.. Added to robots.txt to no index search, photo, tags
Added to search meta no index.
Removed 13k dublicated videos, 23k tags.
Removed my multi language section ( was google translated) and I redirect the subdomains to main.
And still getting rejected... How to find the real issue? Any help/idea please?

Thanks

not sure, my own experience tells me : in manual action case, better clone the content on a new domain and try again with a bit of remixing , however it depends how much of your content is unique or just copy and paste or cloned (like video embeds), i wouldnt bother to lick googles arse and not waste much time, if you had truly unique content ignore my answer. in this case it only helped me, to wait it out, sometimes even totally spammy sites came back after a few month. trying to optimize never got me anywhere but wasting lots of time and sweat, after all we are considered spammers anway by google and once caught...well...rinse and repeat, my own paranoia goes so far that i even wouldnt bother to use the same google analytics account and just put all my efforts on new site building
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09-06-2023, 05:28 PM

Wait it out... it'll take 12+ months to get that thin content label removed if you've fixed the issue, so bet you can do is just wait it out...
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09-06-2023, 06:06 PM

..You changed a lot of things, but did you fix the thin content issue?...

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09-06-2023, 06:08 PM

You know.. If it's an aggregated site or site full of affiliate promo content and nothing additional added to add value, no unique text, everything copied or spun, videos or galleries that 1000s of other sites use too, then that's the issue.

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09-07-2023, 07:12 AM

Hey , thanks all for your reply

Originally posted by jamezon

not sure, my own experience tells me : in manual action case, better clone the content on a new domain and try again with a bit of remixing , however it depends how much of your content is unique or just copy and paste or cloned (like video embeds), i wouldnt bother to lick googles arse and not waste much time, if you had truly unique content ignore my answer. in this case it only helped me, to wait it out, sometimes even totally spammy sites came back after a few month. trying to optimize never got me anywhere but wasting lots of time and sweat, after all we are considered spammers anway by google and once caught...well...rinse and repeat, my own paranoia goes so far that i even wouldnt bother to use the same google analytics account and just put all my efforts on new site building

is on of my option to go with new domain , but dont want to move one without trying first

Originally posted by WiredGuy

Wait it out... it'll take 12+ months to get that thin content label removed if you've fixed the issue, so bet you can do is just wait it out...
WG

if i find and fix the thin content issue , why should go over 12+ months?

Originally posted by Colmike9

..You changed a lot of things, but did you fix the thin content issue?...

obviously i havent find the issue yet , i am here for some help

Originally posted by Colmike9

You know.. If it's an aggregated site or site full of affiliate promo content and nothing additional added to add value, no unique text, everything copied or spun, videos or galleries that 1000s of other sites use too, then that's the issue.

is not aggregated site , is softcore tube site .
of course i get video around the internet , and made the mistake to have alot of dublicates , but now i have rmeove most of them .

dont know what else to try

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09-07-2023, 07:31 AM

What does ChatGPT say, what caused the drop in traffic?

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09-07-2023, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by thiva7

is not aggregated site , is softcore tube site .
of course i get video around the internet , and made the mistake to have alot of dublicates , but now i have rmeove most of them .

dont know what else to try

It doesn't really matter if it's aggregated or not, my point is still the same.

When you add in sponsor videos, do you add in any extra text or content at all? Banners/tags/etc don't count as adding anything of value, same with presentation.

Also, why are there so many duplicate videos?

You've been removing things to try to fix this, now try adding things

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09-11-2023, 05:17 AM

Originally posted by Colmike9

Also, why are there so many duplicate videos?

Hey Thanks for your reply.

I have made bad choose of sources , so now trying to clean my content

Originally posted by Colmike9

You've been removing things to try to fix this, now try adding things

when you say adding? meaning new content or new text etc in old content?

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09-11-2023, 05:53 AM

Perhaps just turn the site into a basic blog and start fresh with a new site/domain name.

Use the first site as a learning tool.

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09-11-2023, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by DVTimes

Perhaps just turn the site into a basic blog and start fresh with a new site/domain name.

Use the first site as a learning tool.

Hey ,
is not first site , and i have spent a lot of time , you don't think is possible to remove penalty?

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09-11-2023, 10:27 AM

You can do a test with 301 or double 301 to a new domain to pass backlinks juice.
It is hard to say penalty will pass or not.
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09-11-2023, 11:29 AM

Thin content means you contribute nothing original, nothing new to what is already out there.

You say it's a softcore tube site but are your video titles and descriptions unique and longer than 60 characters?

What Google is trying to tell you is that it wants something different. They don't want 370 copies of the exact same thing.

Google is trying to tell you that your site is unoriginal and lacks any value. So give it value. Make something unique about it.

Add features that are unique to just your site.

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09-12-2023, 08:12 AM

This is interesting, as a "manual action" is a human reviewed and flagged event. So Google workers are actually cruising porn as part of their job?

BTW, the "thin content" issue speaks for itself.
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09-12-2023, 01:11 PM

What exactly is considered thin content?
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09-12-2023, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by AIWut?

What exactly is considered thin content?

For example, if you have just video with description and nothing else, so it is recommend to add either long description or "similar videos" section.
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09-13-2023, 12:00 AM

What about Xvideos, Pornhub?
Zero content on video pages.
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09-13-2023, 03:26 AM

Originally posted by TurboB

What about Xvideos, Pornhub?
Zero content on video pages.

They have huge amount of videos (making huge bounce rate) and also huge amount of backlinks(rising overall seo score). But yes pornhub when it comes to internal seo is very badly optimized. For
example, people would upload tons of videos and name with numbers, like part 1 part 2 part 3 and so on which is also bad for seo. But again, nothing what good amount of backlinks cant solve.
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09-14-2023, 09:54 AM

Hey thanks all for replies , help me a lot

Originally posted by TurboB

You can do a test with 301 or double 301 to a new domain to pass backlinks juice.
It is hard to say penalty will pass or not.

you mean backlinks as seo or traffic?

Originally posted by Kelli58

Thin content means you contribute nothing original, nothing new to what is already out there.
You say it's a softcore tube site but are your video titles and descriptions unique and longer than 60 characters?

Add features that are unique to just your site.

The truth is i just checked and from total 40871 videos ,

37093 less than 60
29151 less than 50
15386 less than 40
3446 less than 30
495 less than 20

but all sites that well ranked have around 40 to 50 char .
i already start editing titles anyway. i just trying to understand.

Originally posted by Kelli58

Add features that are unique to just your site.

if was easy

Originally posted by dcortez

This is interesting, as a "manual action" is a human reviewed and flagged event. So Google workers are actually cruising porn as part of their job?

BTW, the "thin content" issue speaks for itself.

so far i have remove many part and content of my site
all rejections come from 2-5 days
most of the time 2 days , so maybe is just algorythm check "wrong" on site and if is fixed going to manual?
don't know..

Originally posted by Klen

They have huge amount of videos (making huge bounce rate) and also huge amount of backlinks(rising overall seo score). But yes pornhub when it comes to internal seo is very badly optimized. For
example, people would upload tons of videos and name with numbers, like part 1 part 2 part 3 and so on which is also bad for seo. But again, nothing what good amount of backlinks cant solve.

one of my competitor even have same videos with different titles , but yeah, i made same mistake with parts as well

QUESTION : does slug matter as duplicate even if content is different ?

example

domain.com/12345/some-slug-of-video
with
domain.com/98745/some-slug-of-video

consider as duplicates?

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09-19-2023, 02:10 AM

The truth is i just checked and from total 40871 videos , but all sites that well ranked have around 40 to 50 char . i already start editing titles anyway. i just trying to understand.

>> Well you kind of just answered your own question there didn't you? You have a video and a title with 40 to 50 characters? Is that really it?

I would suggest treating each video as a blog post. Can you get 300 to 500 words describing each video? If not go feed your movie titles to Caption Queen scene description AI and let it help you.

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09-22-2023, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by thiva7

Hey,

In may, one of my sites got manual action for thin content and Since then I have changed many part of the site.. Added to robots.txt to no index search, photo, tags
Added to search meta no index.
Removed 13k dublicated videos, 23k tags.
Removed my multi language section ( was google translated) and I redirect the subdomains to main.
And still getting rejected... How to find the real issue? Any help/idea please?

Thanks

Make the thin content no longer thin. Google misleads in a number of ways. But, one thing that they do sort of get right is penalizing (or just not ranking) thin content. They get that wrong too sometimes. But, a manual action saying it's thin...add to it.
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09-22-2023, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by thiva7

example

domain.com/12345/some-slug-of-video
with
domain.com/98745/some-slug-of-video

many people here have explained to you what you need to do to remove the google penalty...

make your content full of details.

the descriptions & the niche, tags...

and to answer your post...

domain.com/12345/some-slug-of-video
with
domain.com/98745/many-worm-in-movie

this is different

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09-22-2023, 11:21 PM

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09-23-2023, 04:09 PM

the info in this thread is 15 years out of date

you don't need unique titles, long descriptions, unique content

you need a site where your SE traffic has extremely low bounce rate and extremely high time on site. (unfortunately that's very fucking hard to do...don't get your hopes up.)

it's not any different from the TGP traffic-trading days. the only thing that matters is clicks.

Well...all that, plus an insane link budget.

a few of you know which sites I run so...believe me or don't, its up to you.
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09-27-2023, 06:06 AM

Originally posted by Kelli58

The truth is i just checked and from total 40871 videos , but all sites that well ranked have around 40 to 50 char . i already start editing titles anyway. i just trying to understand.

>> Well you kind of just answered your own question there didn't you? You have a video and a title with 40 to 50 characters? Is that really it?

I would suggest treating each video as a blog post. Can you get 300 to 500 words describing each video? If not go feed your movie titles to Caption Queen scene description AI and let it help you.

That alone will make a massive difference for you.

Caption Queen does not offer API , do any one know any AI that offer api and allow adult?

Originally posted by zzzxxx

Make the thin content no longer thin. Google misleads in a number of ways. But, one thing that they do sort of get right is penalizing (or just not ranking) thin content. They get that wrong too sometimes. But, a manual action saying it's thin...add to it.

Thats why i am here and asking how to add to it

Originally posted by NatalieK

many people here have explained to you what you need to do to remove the google penalty...

domain.com/12345/some-slug-of-video
with
domain.com/98745/many-worm-in-movie

this is different

Thanks , will check how to fix that issue

Originally posted by emmasexytime

if it's the milf site fix your https and how you set it up, that should fix your issue

Not even close.
Ps: on of my compactor does not even have HTTPS/SSL , and rank better than me.

Originally posted by wankawonk

the info in this thread is 15 years out of date

you don't need unique titles, long descriptions, unique content

you need a site where your SE traffic has extremely low bounce rate and extremely high time on site. (unfortunately that's very fucking hard to do...don't get your hopes up.)

I could believe that about bounce rate and time on site , but when i compare my site in similar web ( since i dont have GA data of other sites )

in time on site and bounce i am in better condition than my competitors

my data is

Avg Visit Duration : 00:04:56
Pages per Visit: 9.95
Bounce Rate: 43.8%

Some other site data

Avg Visit Duration : 00:03:54
Pages per Visit: 8.68
Bounce Rate 45.39%

another

Avg Visit Duration 00:04:08
Pages per Visit 4.4
Bounce Rate 49.28%

Another

Avg Visit Duration 00:03:38
Pages per Visit 5.46
Bounce Rate 43.32%

i mean , based on available data is hard to believe that google banned me for bounce rate , and time on site , when out there is sites with same or worst stats .

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