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  • dgraves
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2005
    • 2283

    #1

    Content Shut Down Illegal Tubes!

    Don't let illegal tubes steal your content, time and money!

    Copyright register all your content and fight back!

    I recently took down the follow illegal tubes:

    justswallows.com

    justswallow.net

    pornwild.com

    pornwildnicepornproxy.com

    pornwild.to

    hdpornbay.com

    pornwild.su

    hqcollect.net

    pornez.net

    cumgloryhole.com


    Now these fuckers know what it's like to have their work taken from them! Thanks to the great work from my legal team and DMCAForce.com
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  • OneHungLo
    So Fucking Banned
    • May 2001
    • 40906

    #2
    Thank you!!! Any info on the actual owners?

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    • Lief Thorson
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2023
      • 528

      #3
      All those shitty domains are probably owned by the same guy.

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      • dgraves
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2005
        • 2283

        #4
        Emre Temiz from Turkey is the biggest scumbag. I shut down one of his tubes so far and getting ready to shut down his new one. He's a rat who lives in a cave and can only survive off stealing content. I call theses guys "Click Monkeys" because their only skill is "click-download, click-upload".

        These sites were warned many times to stop posting my videos but they ignored all the legal warnings. Most of them relied heavily on my videos so they figured if they stopped posting my videos then their sites would be dead anyway so they didn't have anything to lose. Pornez.net had 280K stolen videos posted. The lawsuit prevents Registrars from notifying the tube owners about the legal action as well as preventing them from redirecting the traffic or transferring the domains.

        A few tubes took my videos down but it was too late and the Judge suspected that they would just wait for the dust to settle and put them back up so he awarded me the TRO. Too little, too late!

        Tubes might have servers outside US copyright jurisdiction but the domains can be shut down. Registrars don't want to be involved in copyright lawsuits because Judges are awarding producers $15K per video which adds up pretty quick. All the big Registrars have agreed to cooperate as long as we didn't include them in the lawsuits.

        The important part is to register all your videos with the US Copyright Office. It's easy and you can submit the videos online. You pay $65/video and upload a very small version of the video. You get copyright protection right away.

        Using a service like DMCA Force helps a lot because they keep accurate records of all the take-down notices sent. Any tube that doesn't comply can be shut down.

        We're working on a new batch of tubes so I'll keep you guys posted on the progress.
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        • WiredGuy
          Pounding Googlebot
          • Aug 2002
          • 34512

          #5
          How were they monetizing the content?
          WG
          I play with Google.

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          • plsureking
            bored
            • Aug 2003
            • 4904

            #6
            awesome!

            i'm ok with taking down the legal tubes too

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            • Colmike9
              (>^_^)b
              • Dec 2011
              • 7230

              #7
              Any update on the whole user account lawsuit thing in Cali?.. You know, the real reason how big 'legit' tubes got as big as they are today... :x
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              • dgraves
                Confirmed User
                • Nov 2005
                • 2283

                #8
                Some tubes just want the traffic so they can sell ads like cam shows, dating, sex toys, boner meds, etc.

                Some tubes charge fees for "premium" content similar to a member's area.

                Some tubes post links to file lockers under an affiliate account so they get paid each time someone joins the file locker to download the content. The big file lockers comply with DMCA but they play whack-a-mole and have features that allow the thieves to swap links, making it appear that the content was removed.

                So instead of working with producers as affiliates, the thieves decided to cut out the producers completely and just steal their content. They've seen it done for years without any punishment so monkey see...monkey do.

                They will soon have the fear of waking up to a blank page without warning. It takes years to build a big tube site with lots of traffic and now they can be taken down completely with no way of redirecting the traffic, transferring or selling the domain.

                Thieves post comments on here like "adapt or die". I've adapted and they can die.
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                • plsureking
                  bored
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 4904

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dgraves
                  Thieves post comments on here like "adapt or die". I've adapted and they can die.
                  absolutely. great work!

                  there's undoubtedly some illegal site owners here at gfy.



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                  • myleene
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 906

                    #10
                    I wish these would be added to the list:
                    RARBG Dump Search
                    Strangled Torrents
                    https://www.limetorrents.lol/
                    https://tube.perverzija.com/
                    https://rarbg.best/
                    https://rarbg.gg/ (and all clones)
                    https://rarbg.pw/
                    https://torrentgalaxy.to/
                    https://www.cambro.tv/
                    https://www.camwhores.tv/

                    Some of them are hosted on hosts on which it should be easy to get takedowns.

                    I had issues with pornwild as well.

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                    • JesseQuinn
                      feeding the wolves
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 6622

                      #11
                      nicely done dgraves. respect
                      throwing molotav cocktails at the precinct

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                      • 3xmedia
                        Confirmed User
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 5738

                        #12
                        good job
                        ---

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                        • Webster01
                          Confirmed User
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 378

                          #13
                          Very well done

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                          • Klen
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 32235

                            #14
                            Nice, you could create thread with instructions how to shutdown domains and then i can move it to GFY educational series.

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                            • Freedom6995
                              Friends of Venus founder
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 1975

                              #15
                              Well done!

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                              • Dolor
                                Kingmaker
                                • Nov 2016
                                • 283

                                #16
                                Good job
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                                • SpicyM
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2006
                                  • 4575

                                  #17
                                  Thank you for fighting the thieving asswipes!

                                  no sig, sorry

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                                  • avrevenue
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Apr 2004
                                    • 1904

                                    #18
                                    good job!
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                                    • dgraves
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Nov 2005
                                      • 2283

                                      #19
                                      I can do that this week. Thanks!
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                                      • dgraves
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Nov 2005
                                        • 2283

                                        #20
                                        I'll take a look at those site this week. I can have them shut down if they are sharing my videos and don't comply with DMCA.

                                        We might be able to form some kind of coalition to fight theft on a bigger scale.
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                                        • dgraves
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Nov 2005
                                          • 2283

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Klen
                                          Nice, you could create thread with instructions how to shutdown domains and then i can move it to GFY educational series.
                                          I can do that this week. Thanks!
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                                          • dgraves
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Nov 2005
                                            • 2283

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by myleene
                                            I wish these would be added to the list:
                                            RARBG Dump Search
                                            Strangled Torrents
                                            https://www.limetorrents.lol/
                                            https://tube.perverzija.com/
                                            https://rarbg.best/
                                            https://rarbg.gg/ (and all clones)
                                            https://rarbg.pw/
                                            https://torrentgalaxy.to/
                                            https://www.cambro.tv/
                                            https://www.camwhores.tv/

                                            Some of them are hosted on hosts on which it should be easy to get takedowns.

                                            I had issues with pornwild as well.
                                            I'll take a look at those site this week. I can have them shut down if they are sharing my videos and don't comply with DMCA.

                                            We might be able to form some kind of coalition to fight theft on a bigger scale.
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                                            • nikki99
                                              Supermodel
                                              • Nov 2004
                                              • 23087

                                              #23
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                                              • Brad Mitchell
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Nov 2001
                                                • 9813

                                                #24
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                                                • fuzebox
                                                  making it rain
                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                  • 22352

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Brad Mitchell
                                                  or camwhores.tv
                                                  I bet crakrevenue knows.

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                                                  • Half man, Half Amazing
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Feb 2008
                                                    • 372

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Brad Mitchell
                                                    If anyone has suggestions about camshowdownload.com or camwhores.tv (or the other related domains) please hit me up on Skype to discuss

                                                    Brad
                                                    All the sites sponsoring these thieves financially are at EVERY adult awards show being buried under awards and praise. It's not like it's hard to figure out, go to these sites, who's popups are there? What cam whitelabel are they on? What company is their ad provider? What scam dating program is sponsoring them? 99% of the time it's the same people who just won every award at the last circlejerk tradeshow. Some people have been speaking up about this for literally over a decade now and no one gave a shit. Other people finally decided to speak up only when it personally affected them. The rest never gave a shit because they've never created anything in their lives and the only way they can make a penny is scamming bigger dipshits with the same offers that wind up in your junk mail folder. The adult industry not only allowed this to happen, we encouraged it, rewarded it and ostracized the few sane voices.
                                                    Is this gonna get ugly, now? Huh? I hope not. Because I thought what we were here, racial differences notwithstanding, was just a couple of old friends. You know, just both of us Californians.

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                                                    • dgraves
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Nov 2005
                                                      • 2283

                                                      #27
                                                      I wish I had a dollar for every time someone in the biz told me not to focus so much on theft and just focus on making good content. Worst advice ever!

                                                      Content theft isn't just a problem, it's "the" problem! How can anyone sell content that's posted on Friday and shared on every major tube the next day? There's nothing "free" or cheap for that matter about producing content and running a site.

                                                      The thieves can have their awards, I'd rather take their domains.

                                                      Content theft can't be stopped but the tube owners will live in fear wondering when their sites will be taken from them without notice.
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                                                      • plsureking
                                                        bored
                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                        • 4904

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Half man, Half Amazing
                                                        All the sites sponsoring these thieves financially are at EVERY adult awards show being buried under awards and praise. It's not like it's hard to figure out, go to these sites, who's popups are there? What cam whitelabel are they on? What company is their ad provider? What scam dating program is sponsoring them? 99% of the time it's the same people who just won every award at the last circlejerk tradeshow. Some people have been speaking up about this for literally over a decade now and no one gave a shit. Other people finally decided to speak up only when it personally affected them. The rest never gave a shit because they've never created anything in their lives and the only way they can make a penny is scamming bigger dipshits with the same offers that wind up in your junk mail folder. The adult industry not only allowed this to happen, we encouraged it, rewarded it and ostracized the few sane voices.
                                                        100%

                                                        same dipshits at every show trolling for nubes too.

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                                                        • brassmonkey
                                                          Pay It Forward
                                                          • Sep 2005
                                                          • 77396

                                                          #29
                                                          you should not talk like that... they will just build mirrors to piss you off.
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                                                          • fris
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                            • 55679

                                                            #30
                                                            supried camshowdownload hasnt been taken down, its been up for 9 years
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                                                            • SpicyM
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                              • 4575

                                                              #31
                                                              I suggest checking these:

                                                              fullporner . org
                                                              fullporner . com
                                                              pornditt . com
                                                              xfantazy . com
                                                              porntrex . com
                                                              spankbang . com
                                                              porntop .com
                                                              no sig, sorry

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                                                              • dgraves
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Nov 2005
                                                                • 2283

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by fris
                                                                supried camshowdownload hasnt been taken down, its been up for 9 years
                                                                That's part of the problem. Nothing has been done about any of those sites for many years so they keep going like it's ok and other scabs see them untouched so they jump on the wagon. There's nothing hard about stealing porn so it attracts lazy bottom feeders.

                                                                There has to be a few public executions to show them it's not ok and there are consequences. It won't stop theft but it will make them think twice about it and wonder when all there work will be taken from them in a split second.

                                                                I'm not going to lie, this process is time consuming and expensive but so is having content stolen and given away for free.
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                                                                • dgraves
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                  • 2283

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by SpicyM
                                                                  I suggest checking these:

                                                                  fullporner . org
                                                                  fullporner . com
                                                                  pornditt . com
                                                                  xfantazy . com
                                                                  porntrex . com
                                                                  spankbang . com
                                                                  porntop .com
                                                                  Thanks for the list. A few of those are on my radar. I don't want to say which ones because I want the white error page to be a good morning surprise to the owners.
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                                                                  • plsureking
                                                                    bored
                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                    • 4904

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by dgraves
                                                                    I'm not going to lie, this process is time consuming and expensive but so is having content stolen and given away for free.
                                                                    i know you dont need it, but i think you'd get some help from the industry with a gofundme or a buymeacoffee link.

                                                                    there's conference whores on gfy who claim to be 100% supportive of the industry. they should be the first in line to donate.

                                                                    i'd donate at least $5

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                                                                    • dgraves
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Nov 2005
                                                                      • 2283

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by plsureking
                                                                      i know you dont need it, but i think you'd get some help from the industry with a gofundme or a buymeacoffee link.

                                                                      there's conference whores on gfy who claim to be 100% supportive of the industry. they should be the first in line to donate.

                                                                      i'd donate at least $5

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                                                                      I wouldn't expect a lot of producers to chip in. Many have already benefited from my efforts.

                                                                      I think in the future something could be set up.
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                                                                      • plsureking
                                                                        bored
                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                        • 4904

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by dgraves
                                                                        I wouldn't expect a lot of producers to chip in. Many have already benefited from my efforts.

                                                                        I think in the future something could be set up.
                                                                        post here if you do. i'll spam my site owners

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                                                                        • dgraves
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Nov 2005
                                                                          • 2283

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by plsureking
                                                                          post here if you do. i'll spam my site owners

                                                                          #
                                                                          Will do. I'll talk to my lawyer to see what's involved with defending multiple site owners.

                                                                          At the moment I'm only able to file complaints for my content.
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                                                                          • $5 submissions
                                                                            I help you SUCCEED
                                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                                            • 32195

                                                                            #38
                                                                            People have been screaming the title of this thread for ages now and shady tubes are still around

                                                                            What gives?

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                                                                            • dgraves
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Nov 2005
                                                                              • 2283

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Over the years content producers accepted theft as a normal part of business. They believed nothing could be done because big tubes were doing it and getting away with under the "safe harbor" protection of DMCA.

                                                                              We all know sites that had to stop producing content due to theft. Ironic huh? Tube owners share stolen content to make money but destroy the source.
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                                                                              • Klen
                                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                                • 32235

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                                People have been screaming the title of this thread for ages now and shady tubes are still around

                                                                                What gives?
                                                                                There is reason why there is expression "action, not words"

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                                                                                • panel45
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2023
                                                                                  • 16

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Exercise caution. If things take a wrong turn, you may end up footing a huge legal bill. It appears your prior success hinged on the presence of a cool ass judge who granted an atypical order, an act most other members of the judiciary might be reluctant to emulate.

                                                                                  The defendants you encountered were blatantly involved in piracy, and their failure to appear in court resulted in your swift default victory. However, should they choose to defend themselves in the future, the costs associated with legal proceedings may rise sharply. Voluntarily dismissing the case might seem an appealing option if the duration or cost begins to strain your resources, but the situation could quickly worsen.

                                                                                  In the event a defendant lodges a counterclaim, your involvement in the proceedings would dramatically evolve, converting you into a counter-defendant. Such a scenario could potentially trigger a default judgment against you if you decide not to actively pursue the litigation. This could trap you in expensive legal proceedings, especially in copyright cases, these costs can easily exceed $250,000.

                                                                                  If the defendants secure a victory, they might be entitled to have their attorney's fees covered, and could potentially receive damages. On the flip side, even if you win, you may find it difficult, if not impossible, to recover anything from them.

                                                                                  Your recent victory may have bolstered your enthusiasm, but the law is not a tool for personal revenge. The potential repercussions for abusing it are serious and severe. The consequences can be harsh and brutal. The excitement and cheering here, encouraging you to pull off more entertaining stunts and accumulate more internet points, could land you in legal trouble. Therefore, I suggest that you act wisely

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                                                                                  • nikki99
                                                                                    Supermodel
                                                                                    • Nov 2004
                                                                                    • 23087

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by SpicyM
                                                                                    I suggest checking these:

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                                                                                    fullporner . com
                                                                                    pornditt . com
                                                                                    xfantazy . com
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                                                                                    porntop .com
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                                                                                    • RyuLion
                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                      • 32369

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Brad Mitchell
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                                                                                      • Colmike9
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                                                                                        • Dec 2011
                                                                                        • 7230

                                                                                        #44
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                                                                                        • The Porn Nerd
                                                                                          Living The Dream
                                                                                          • Jun 2009
                                                                                          • 19787

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by panel45
                                                                                          Exercise caution. If things take a wrong turn, you may end up footing a huge legal bill. It appears your prior success hinged on the presence of a cool ass judge who granted an atypical order, an act most other members of the judiciary might be reluctant to emulate.

                                                                                          The defendants you encountered were blatantly involved in piracy, and their failure to appear in court resulted in your swift default victory. However, should they choose to defend themselves in the future, the costs associated with legal proceedings may rise sharply. Voluntarily dismissing the case might seem an appealing option if the duration or cost begins to strain your resources, but the situation could quickly worsen.

                                                                                          In the event a defendant lodges a counterclaim, your involvement in the proceedings would dramatically evolve, converting you into a counter-defendant. Such a scenario could potentially trigger a default judgment against you if you decide not to actively pursue the litigation. This could trap you in expensive legal proceedings, especially in copyright cases, these costs can easily exceed $250,000.

                                                                                          If the defendants secure a victory, they might be entitled to have their attorney's fees covered, and could potentially receive damages. On the flip side, even if you win, you may find it difficult, if not impossible, to recover anything from them.

                                                                                          Your recent victory may have bolstered your enthusiasm, but the law is not a tool for personal revenge. The potential repercussions for abusing it are serious and severe. The consequences can be harsh and brutal. The excitement and cheering here, encouraging you to pull off more entertaining stunts and accumulate more internet points, could land you in legal trouble. Therefore, I suggest that you act wisely
                                                                                          Hehe looks like some of these tubes you listed here are feeling the heat and trying to make you back off. The "if you lose it could cost you big time" argument is often used to deter any legitimate legal action.

                                                                                          What would the counter-claims be, btw? "Hey Your Honor this guy is making it harder for us to profit off our illegal activities!"? LOL

                                                                                          Make sure you are on firm legal ground and then proceed. I work 100% with legal tubes who are registered affiliates of mine so if the illegal tubes are brought down (or under control) then it can only mean higher profits for Producers and legit tube owners.
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                                                                                          • panel45
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Feb 2023
                                                                                            • 16

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                                            Hehe looks like some of these tubes you listed here are feeling the heat and trying to make you back off. The "if you lose it could cost you big time" argument is often used to deter any legitimate legal action.

                                                                                            What would the counter-claims be, btw? "Hey Your Honor this guy is making it harder for us to profit off our illegal activities!"? LOL

                                                                                            Make sure you are on firm legal ground and then proceed. I work 100% with legal tubes who are registered affiliates of mine so if the illegal tubes are brought down (or under control) then it can only mean higher profits for Producers and legit tube owners.
                                                                                            I appreciate your passion, and I assure you, my disdain for piracy is as fervent as yours. I have assisted many in battling against it.

                                                                                            However, your comment suggests you might not fully grasp how the legal system operates in the United States. Litigation is not about taking a broad view and assessing whether a situation generally seems fair or not. It's composed of numerous intricate parts, each of which is scrutinized in a mostly isolated context to minimize bias.

                                                                                            To provide a stark illustration: Consider a scenario where a man commits rape and a week prior to the incident, the woman who becomes his victim had stolen his watch, leading to his arrest. The law identifies two separate crimes here, rape, a heinous crime with severe penalties, and theft, which, although lesser in magnitude, is still a criminal act that warrants prosecution. The court won't say, 'Well, you raped this person, so we can overlook their theft of your watch.' Each offense is independently evaluated to ensure justice is served.

                                                                                            A litigation process is complex, and a defendant may identify grounds for a counterclaim in the course of motion practice. For instance, let's say you forget to serve them properly. They can counterclaim that their defense was compromised due to improper service, causing them to lose investors due to the complaint. They might argue that the case could have been resolved quickly if they'd been appropriately informed. Here, we have a counterclaim that requires legal representation to handle—increasing the cost of litigation.

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                                                                                            • dgraves
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Nov 2005
                                                                                              • 2283

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by panel45
                                                                                              Exercise caution. If things take a wrong turn, you may end up footing a huge legal bill. It appears your prior success hinged on the presence of a cool ass judge who granted an atypical order, an act most other members of the judiciary might be reluctant to emulate.

                                                                                              The defendants you encountered were blatantly involved in piracy, and their failure to appear in court resulted in your swift default victory. However, should they choose to defend themselves in the future, the costs associated with legal proceedings may rise sharply. Voluntarily dismissing the case might seem an appealing option if the duration or cost begins to strain your resources, but the situation could quickly worsen.

                                                                                              In the event a defendant lodges a counterclaim, your involvement in the proceedings would dramatically evolve, converting you into a counter-defendant. Such a scenario could potentially trigger a default judgment against you if you decide not to actively pursue the litigation. This could trap you in expensive legal proceedings, especially in copyright cases, these costs can easily exceed $250,000.

                                                                                              If the defendants secure a victory, they might be entitled to have their attorney's fees covered, and could potentially receive damages. On the flip side, even if you win, you may find it difficult, if not impossible, to recover anything from them.

                                                                                              Your recent victory may have bolstered your enthusiasm, but the law is not a tool for personal revenge. The potential repercussions for abusing it are serious and severe. The consequences can be harsh and brutal. The excitement and cheering here, encouraging you to pull off more entertaining stunts and accumulate more internet points, could land you in legal trouble. Therefore, I suggest that you act wisely
                                                                                              I'm not concerned with this one bit. They are guilty and there's no argument, period. I would actually love to have one of these tube owners fight the case. That way they would have to identify themselves and these cowards wouldn't do that. I shut down some big tubes. Isn't it strange that not one of them fought the case?

                                                                                              I'm surprised you would see this as "revenge". If someone was stealing money out of your bank account and you wanted that stopped, would that be considered revenge?

                                                                                              My goal isn't to seek financial compensation. Theses tube owners are typically broke and making pennies off stolen porn. My goal is to stop them from capitalizing off my work.

                                                                                              This thread isn't to cheer people on, it's to expose these sites and to show other content producers that it's possible to fight back. I'm just getting started and I'll fight tooth and nail.

                                                                                              I can't stop people from stealing my videos. A nutless monkey can steal porn. I want the thieves to know that if they take my work, I'm going to take their work.
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                                                                                              • dgraves
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                                                                                                • Nov 2005
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                                                Hehe looks like some of these tubes you listed here are feeling the heat and trying to make you back off. The "if you lose it could cost you big time" argument is often used to deter any legitimate legal action.

                                                                                                What would the counter-claims be, btw? "Hey Your Honor this guy is making it harder for us to profit off our illegal activities!"? LOL

                                                                                                Make sure you are on firm legal ground and then proceed. I work 100% with legal tubes who are registered affiliates of mine so if the illegal tubes are brought down (or under control) then it can only mean higher profits for Producers and legit tube owners.
                                                                                                We use to have a good system where content producers and traffic providers worked together. Somewhere along the way greedy people thought it was a good idea to cut the producers out of the picture and just steal the content.

                                                                                                The problem is theft isn't a very good long-term business plan.
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                                                                                                • SpicyM
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                                                                                                  • Aug 2006
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by panel45
                                                                                                  They can counterclaim that their defense was compromised due to improper service, causing them to lose investors due to the complaint.
                                                                                                  That was a good one...

                                                                                                  These shitbags are anonymous pricks living in shithole countries and hiding their asses as much as they can. No fuckin way they would show up anywhere or reveal their real names... they know they use pirated scenes and they know that's illegal. I highly doubt they pay taxes from this in the countries they live in. That would be money laundering and porn itself might even be banned in those shitholes.

                                                                                                  Every single scumbag like this uses bitcoin for payments and it's not due to convenience... or because of them not trusting the government or the banks, or whoever... They want and need anonymity. Most of those tubes don't even pretend it's user uploaded content - no upload forms on their sites, no replies to emails. Not to mention that every single of them breaks the GDPR.

                                                                                                  They are pure criminals and they are afraid of losing investors? Yeah, right...
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                                                                                                  • dgraves
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                                                                                                    • Nov 2005
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    If they hide themselves to the point where they can't be contacted in order to respond to a take-down notice then that's on them and the sure fire way to have them respond is to take their site down. They never respond to my lawyers but you can bet they contact the Registrars right away.

                                                                                                    BTW, these are willful copyright infringement cases. Either way, they are involved with theft.

                                                                                                    If the cops find a bag of coke in your car, it would be hard to fight it in court claiming you didn't put it there and you can't possibly be responsible for things people may put in your car.

                                                                                                    This is the stupid shit tube sites claim like they have absolutely no control over their sites and the content that's posted. They say they don't monitor uploaded videos but try uploading a video that's not porn related and see how long it stays up. I know because I tried it. They get removed immediately but it takes 3-4 days for them to respond to a DMCA Take-Down Notice.

                                                                                                    They must think we're as stupid as they are.
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