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Amputate Your Head 05-24-2003 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz


I use many designers, WebInc, FlashFreak, and so many others on this forumNEVER do I argue over price never do I fuck with payment, if I like the work I use them.

But its no a missed deadline here that bothered me, it was the ignoring and trying to justify it by a deal she gave on FPA's.

okay... I wasn't involved, so I don't know.... but maybe she really was gone? Or maybe she was just busy with other things? It may not seem right to you, but the reality of it is, if Client A is paying me $5K for something, and you're getting 3 FPAs for $40 bucks.... sorry, you just got the bitch position in the backseat. So, I understand what you're saying about not justifying lack of response based on the deal, but the truth is, sometimes they go hand in hand.


Anyway... that's my 2 cents. Not trying to stir shit with you, but I do think you over reacted.

thefreakybeaver 05-24-2003 12:29 AM

I have to agree with those on this one that said it got blown out of proportion. Seems a little miscommunication was going on being there was a middleman involved.

Espcially since she has a full time job, didnt' get a date they were needed by etc. To think that because you are "well known" or some kind of important person to everyone in the adult biz, gives you the right to freak on someone because you "think" they are ignoring your icq's was way out of line. You were nothing to her but a client for a few full page ads and a few banners.

Scott or yourself could have left a more detailed icq message saying she needed to get ahold of one of you as soon as she possibly could. I know some nights I'm so tired I just want to crawl in bed and to answer a simple "are you there" icq message could mean hours more of time I just don't have at the moment.

WendyB 05-24-2003 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jellohead

EscortBizPro (11:05 PM) :
and no im not drunk

EscortBizPro (11:05 PM) :
you mistreated me for no god dam reason

Amazing.

What a fucking (EB) idiot.

EscortBiz 05-24-2003 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WendyB


Amazing.

What a fucking (EB) idiot.

thanks

galleryseek 05-24-2003 01:02 AM

escort did you start juicing?? :winkwink:

EscortBiz 05-24-2003 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by galleryseek
escort did you start juicing?? :winkwink:
someone asked me that on ICQ too lol the answer is yes, did I really overreact, I guess this shit is kicking in fuckin roid rage

galleryseek 05-24-2003 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz


someone asked me that on ICQ too lol the answer is yes, did I really overreact, I guess this shit is kicking in fuckin roid rage

niceee. i'm trying to perfect my diet before i start... basically tryin to get as much protein as i can (not using protein drinks), and focusing on the right amounts of carbs, and when to take n' such... lotta research involved in this crap, heh.

what're you takin?

mule 05-24-2003 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
Regardless what happened I am paying for your time and work and thats the end of it.
EscortBiz, you're well-respected here, but I definitely think that you overreacted massively, and that the topic of this thread calls for an apology, not a "that's the end of it"
This was a misunderstanding, and also it seems a lack of communication between you and Scott, you've blown it way out of proportion.
Cool down and place this thing in perspective, dude :)

EscortBiz 05-24-2003 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mule

EscortBiz, you're well-respected here, but I definitely think that you overreacted massively, and that the topic of this thread calls for an apology, not a "that's the end of it"
This was a misunderstanding, and also it seems a lack of communication between you and Scott, you've blown it way out of proportion.
Cool down and place this thing in perspective, dude :)

no the problem is not with my communication with scott, read and read again and then comment.

EscortBiz 05-24-2003 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by galleryseek


niceee. i'm trying to perfect my diet before i start... basically tryin to get as much protein as i can (not using protein drinks), and focusing on the right amounts of carbs, and when to take n' such... lotta research involved in this crap, heh.

what're you takin?

Ok my very first cycle I took BS, like Sust and Deca, I needed to get off of the stuff for a while.

This time I had a doc look over the stuff and after a blood test etc. told me what to do, now this may or may not apply to you.

I am drinking 4 Myoplex meal replacments a day (mixed with water not milk. (each 42gm)

I am taking Testosterone Cyp (by upjohn) 400mg weekly (first 4 weeks 200mg)

Nandrolone Deconate 200mg weekly (start with 100mg first 4 weeks)

I also take Clomid just started after seeing a friend use it with success keeps the mam boobs (gyno) away and controls acne etc.

I also rotate the shots (sholders, bis etc.)

And with that heavy CONTROLD lifting

mule 05-24-2003 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
I am taking Testosterone Cyp (by upjohn) 400mg weekly (first 4 weeks 200mg)
I think this might be causing the problem
*grin*
Seriously man, I DID read it all again, and I still think this thread isn't doing doing your reputation any good.

EscortBiz 05-24-2003 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mule

I think this might be causing the problem
*grin*
Seriously man, I DID read it all again, and I still think this thread isn't doing doing your reputation any good.

my reputation is doing just fine tons of people here do work for me get paid get tiped etc.

If someone doesnt want to deal with me because of this fuck them I dont care. Straight up people make lots of money with me bullshitters regret ever knowing my name.

Time to go to sleep it is now just about 24 hours of being up

CDSmith 05-24-2003 02:03 AM

I will never do business with Jellohead.



Escrotebiz's word is good enough for me. :D

EscortBiz 05-24-2003 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
I will never do business with Jellohead.



Escrotebiz's word is good enough for me. :D

One thing about people from canada they stick up for each other thats very nice

Goodnight CD Smith

CDSmith 05-24-2003 02:18 AM

Hey, Canukistanis are family.



(no inbreeding jokes please)

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-24-2003 02:38 AM

Lets see what she did on those 40 dollar FPA's and the banners.

Curious about her work.

prostock 05-24-2003 02:41 AM

EscortBiz



Escortbiz ,
i know you seem to be a cool guy here and i know you seem to be always looking for workers content makers and all that good shit but man , give people a BREAK over a freaking icq that aperson not get to you that day or the next i think i even icq one or two times and you not hit me right back hell that is life ,
I know i am in and out of here all the time my icq is on 99% of the time that doesnt mean i am here , i am shooting all the time , and flying in and out of bankok al the time and in and out of the hospital all the time with my lung cancers and i have some big players that get stuff from me and i have never had one go off on me for not hiting the icq to them right that minute like you did .
If i am getting this all right , you feel if the icq is they should be there right that minute , man sorry to tell you that just isnt the way it is for alot of people .

Hell i talk to you over content a couple of times shit i worry over that , hel if i was to make it for you shit while i am doing it and i am not home i better turn the ciq off or you will think i am trying to piss you off or hide from you and that would never happen


:2 cents:

nuclei 05-24-2003 04:01 AM

Jellohead: drop me an email, I would like to see your work.

william at perlcoders dot com

SGS 05-24-2003 04:13 AM

Is this a new problem with on-line businesses or just something that has always been an issue? The main problem seems to be that ? quite understandably the very best sub contractors, artists, service providers, etc are in high demand and have a waiting list for new projects but the sheer nature of owning a pay site means that 99 times out of 100 things crop up and plan changes and new projects need to be sorted last minute and as quickly as possible.

I try to think back to when we started out with just one PC in the corner of the bedroom and I am sure that we used to get fucked about and hear the same old lame excuses back then as now but as we were having far less work done perhaps it wasn?t such a problem? We turn over the kind of money now that would have made our eyes bleed back then and this is now a serious cutthroat business pretty much like any other?

The problem is that we still get caught out from time to time and end up having to trust work to those that perhaps don?t have the same experience, drive or commitment? More than likely they are just in the same position that we were back five or six years ago in the corner of the bedroom sharing a dial-up connection with the telephone. The mistake that these people make is that they think that everyone is in the same position that they are and they need a bit of a wake up call. :2 cents:

JamesK 05-24-2003 05:16 AM

oh ffs this is complete bullshit.

u guys act like kids.

jimmyf 05-24-2003 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spunky1
Give her a break. ICQ screws up constantly and I think you really should have tried to contact her before going to GFY.:2 cents:
true

jimmyf 05-24-2003 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
Escort.... you really blew this up into something it wasn't. Sorry man, I gotta go with jellohead on this one. Just because someone is gone for a few days doesn't mean they 'disappeared'.

Never forget the base rule: Lack of planning on your part does not necessarily constitute an emergency on mine.

You did get a screaming deal on the FPAs. Shit.... $40 for 3 FPAs? You should be licking jello's feet right now.

You're out of line bro.

Yep looks like it 2 me also.

gruffy 05-24-2003 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

Anyway... that's my 2 cents. Not trying to stir shit with you, but I do think you over reacted.


I'd have to agree. Flippin out like some stalker-chick who isn't getting her IMs answered.



I KNOW YOU ARE THERE! ANSWER ME! YOU ARE CHEATING ON ME AREN'T YOU!?!?!?!?

alias 05-24-2003 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gruffy



I'd have to agree. Flippin out like some stalker-chick who isn't getting her IMs answered.

LOL, yeah I don't see what the big deal is really. You don't like this designer now? Don't hire her again.. .

Jakke PNG 05-24-2003 09:41 AM

Mental note:
Don't piss off escortbiz.:2 cents:

fiveyes 05-24-2003 09:48 AM

Good management is what good management does. Unfortunately, there's none of that here that I see...

Luc Duboi 05-24-2003 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WendyB


Amazing.

What a fucking (EB) idiot.

Are you racist ?

Tala 05-24-2003 10:07 AM

Okay folks. He went off and blew things up too far out of proportion. That said, let it die. Stop telling him how he went overbeoard. He's got that part already.

I'll say that I can't think of a better person to work for, bar none. As long as you're honest and keep him informed of what's going on (as you should with any employer), he's cool and understanding. Just don't feed him a line of shit or "forget" to Q him when you're behind deadline, and you're good to go.

CDSmith 05-24-2003 10:38 AM

Sorry, I was juiced last night and thought that this jellohead thing was a joke.



For the record, I have nothing against anyone who may or may not be named jellohead.



This has been a paid public service announcement.



Thank you.

EscortBiz 05-24-2003 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tala
Okay folks. He went off and blew things up too far out of proportion. That said, let it die. Stop telling him how he went overbeoard. He's got that part already.

I'll say that I can't think of a better person to work for, bar none. As long as you're honest and keep him informed of what's going on (as you should with any employer), he's cool and understanding. Just don't feed him a line of shit or "forget" to Q him when you're behind deadline, and you're good to go.

Thanks exactly, you did work for me and great work at that I took care of my part and you where always updating me.

Thanks

jellohead 05-24-2003 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
Escort.... you really blew this up into something it wasn't. Sorry man, I gotta go with jellohead on this one. Just because someone is gone for a few days doesn't mean they 'disappeared'.

Never forget the base rule: Lack of planning on your part does not necessarily constitute an emergency on mine.

You did get a screaming deal on the FPAs. Shit.... $40 for 3 FPAs? You should be licking jello's feet right now.

You're out of line bro.

actually i did them for $40 each but its still cheap

FATPad 05-24-2003 10:49 AM

Maybe I don't understand or something, but all I see in the ICQ logs is one person looking for a target for his anger and picking his designer.

EscortBiz 05-24-2003 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
Maybe I don't understand or something, but all I see in the ICQ logs is one person looking for a target for his anger and picking his designer.
thats after posting and bumping a thread over and over looking for someone who was doing work for me and after ICQing them.

get your facts straight before opening your pisk.

CDSmith 05-24-2003 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
get your facts straight before opening your pisk.
Should I? Should I?

I think I shall......


<b>Pisk</b>
"The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the Dictionary search box to the right. "

Suggestions for pisk:
1. Pasic
2. pikes
3. piques
4. piques
5. Pikes
6. piss
7. Pinsk
8. piso
9. Pisa
10. piezo-
11. piazza
12. Piozzi

Can't be #1, Pasic was a former premier of Serbia.

Hmm.... #6 looks close. Did you perhaps mean something along the lines of pisshole?


I love new words :D

EscortBiz 05-24-2003 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
Should I? Should I?

I think I shall......


<b>Pisk</b>
"The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the Dictionary search box to the right. "

Suggestions for pisk:
1. Pasic
2. pikes
3. piques
4. piques
5. Pikes
6. piss
7. Pinsk
8. piso
9. Pisa
10. piezo-
11. piazza
12. Piozzi

Can't be #1, Pasic was a former premier of Serbia.

Hmm.... #6 looks close. Did you perhaps mean something along the lines of pisshole?


I love new words :D

Its a mouth.

goBigtime 05-24-2003 11:13 AM

I think the footnotes went something like:

EB: "Where you been?"
JH: "::looks around at other designers::... who me? Oh.. I've umm.. well I took a vacation for a couple days and..."

EB: "Bitch where's my banners?!"
JH: "..I..I...I gave you some banners the other day, I'm tired eb.. I can't work anymore tonight"

EB: "Bitch I ain't trying to hear that -- where's my banners!?"
JH: "..But I'm trying to go legit.. I got a JOB...."

EB: "Damn straight you have a job! Your job is to make me banners!"
JH: "But EB your're giving me way less than...

EB: "Bitch did I come to you?? No. You came to me. You said "Please EB let me make some banners for you!" you better remember that..."
JH: "::crying::... ok ok EB... I'm sorry I was holding on you... heres your banners... ::sobs::

juice 05-24-2003 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime
I think the footnotes went something like:

EB: "Where you been?"
JH: "::looks around at other designers::... who me? Oh.. I've umm.. well I took a vacation for a couple days and..."

EB: "Bitch where's my banners?!"
JH: "..I..I...I gave you some banners the other day, I'm tired eb.. I can't work anymore tonight"

EB: "Bitch I ain't trying to hear that -- where's my banners!?"
JH: "..But I'm trying to go legit.. I got a JOB...."

EB: "Damn straight you have a job! Your job is to make me banners!"
JH: "But EB your're giving me way less than...

EB: "Bitch did I come to you?? No. You came to me. You said "Please EB let me make some banners for you!" you better remember that..."
JH: "::crying::... ok ok EB... I'm sorry I was holding on you... heres your banners... ::sobs::


hehe, yeah...
I've seen people starting thread because they have been screwed for thousands of $$$

But an angry thread for couple of low cost banners delivered a day or two late..?? :eek7

(p.s. how much was it per banner?)

notjoe 05-24-2003 11:21 AM

1) EB, i honstly believe you did waaaaaaaaaaaaaay over-react with this. The fact you got your FPA ontime should have been your first clue that shit chick was alright to work with, and it was because you got her to do some banners for you.

2) Not everyone in the industry hangs out here on GFY, they should but they dont. Having to go through here to get to someone who isnt a regular probably isnt the best way of communication.

3) If you were that pissed over it why didnt you just say fuck it. Give me my money and take your shit back? I dont think the 2 day thing was much of an issue because if it was i think you would have done that, i know i would have.

4) ICQ is the most unstable peice of shit IM there is. You cannot base any sort of work ethic because of someone's ICQ status!

Dont get me wrong, i think you're a man of your word and follow through but every now and then you need to cut people some slack.. what if there was a death in her family, you would have ended up looking pretty stupid for starting this thread.

Dont get mad at me, love me or hate me this is just how i see it

and thats my :2 cents:

Tala 05-24-2003 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime
I think the footnotes went something like:

EB: "Where you been?"
JH: "::looks around at other designers::... who me? Oh.. I've umm.. well I took a vacation for a couple days and..."

EB: "Bitch where's my banners?!"
JH: "..I..I...I gave you some banners the other day, I'm tired eb.. I can't work anymore tonight"

EB: "Bitch I ain't trying to hear that -- where's my banners!?"
JH: "..But I'm trying to go legit.. I got a JOB...."

EB: "Damn straight you have a job! Your job is to make me banners!"
JH: "But EB your're giving me way less than...

EB: "Bitch did I come to you?? No. You came to me. You said "Please EB let me make some banners for you!" you better remember that..."
JH: "::crying::... ok ok EB... I'm sorry I was holding on you... heres your banners... ::sobs::

You know, that shouldn't be as funny as it is.

EscortBiz 05-24-2003 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by notjoe
1) EB, i honstly believe you did waaaaaaaaaaaaaay over-react with this. The fact you got your FPA ontime should have been your first clue that shit chick was alright to work with, and it was because you got her to do some banners for you.

2) Not everyone in the industry hangs out here on GFY, they should but they dont. Having to go through here to get to someone who isnt a regular probably isnt the best way of communication.

3) If you were that pissed over it why didnt you just say fuck it. Give me my money and take your shit back? I dont think the 2 day thing was much of an issue because if it was i think you would have done that, i know i would have.

4) ICQ is the most unstable peice of shit IM there is. You cannot base any sort of work ethic because of someone's ICQ status!

Dont get me wrong, i think you're a man of your word and follow through but every now and then you need to cut people some slack.. what if there was a death in her family, you would have ended up looking pretty stupid for starting this thread.

Dont get mad at me, love me or hate me this is just how i see it

and thats my :2 cents:

Look it is very clear that everyone from canada is all excited over this, and the ladies are bitching.

You know what dont do business with me and thats it.

I know what I do and when I do it.

Good luck

LadyMischief 05-24-2003 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Luc Duboi
ahh... but she's from Canada.... That's the problem.
I'm from Canada, and I've done work for Escortbiz :P That's generally NOT a problem :P

EscortBiz 05-24-2003 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief


I'm from Canada, and I've done work for Escortbiz :P That's generally NOT a problem :P

Thanks alot hun

psyko514 05-24-2003 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz


Look it is very clear that everyone from canada is all excited over this, and the ladies are bitching.

You know what dont do business with me and thats it.

I know what I do and when I do it.

Good luck

Jesus fucking christ... Is your ego so big that you can't fucking admit that you fucked up and apologize?
Up until now, I had nothing but respect for you and I had heard nothing but good things. But now it seems you're starting to show your true colours. I don't know if it's really who you are, or if your attempt to boost your ego more by taking steroids is fucking with your mind, but maybe you should take a day off a rethink your business plan.

A good business man has more than one way of contacting his employees. I'm sure jellohead has an email account and a phone number.

A good business man values those that are making him money. Telling them to no longer do business with them because he's not man enough to apologize is poor business practice.

A good business values anyone who can potentially make money for him, be it one sale or a thousand sales. And you're telling dozens of people here not to do business with you. Sure, you may have only lost a dozen sales, but you may have lost several thousand as well.

Rethink your status around here and in this industry. Very few of us (if any) rely solely on you to get by. You're nothing but a drop in the bucket of the online industry, and you're definetly not the big man you seem to think you are (or at least you're not the big man you told jellohead you were).

And all you people who are sitting here thinking EscortBiz acted professionally, you're all just a bunch of yes-men and pussies who are afraid EscortBiz might cancel your affiliate accounts with him if you speak against him.

CDSmith 05-24-2003 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
Its a mouth.
In what language?

LadyMischief 05-24-2003 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz


Thanks alot hun

You know I'm witchoo :)

EscortBiz 05-24-2003 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514


Jesus fucking christ... Is your ego so big that you can't fucking admit that you fucked up and apologize?
Up until now, I had nothing but respect for you and I had heard nothing but good things. But now it seems you're starting to show your true colours. I don't know if it's really who you are, or if your attempt to boost your ego more by taking steroids is fucking with your mind, but maybe you should take a day off a rethink your business plan.

A good business man has more than one way of contacting his employees. I'm sure jellohead has an email account and a phone number.

A good business man values those that are making him money. Telling them to no longer do business with them because he's not man enough to apologize is poor business practice.

A good business values anyone who can potentially make money for him, be it one sale or a thousand sales. And you're telling dozens of people here not to do business with you. Sure, you may have only lost a dozen sales, but you may have lost several thousand as well.

Rethink your status around here and in this industry. Very few of us (if any) rely solely on you to get by. You're nothing but a drop in the bucket of the online industry, and you're definetly not the big man you seem to think you are (or at least you're not the big man you told jellohead you were).

And all you people who are sitting here thinking EscortBiz acted professionally, you're all just a bunch of yes-men and pussies who are afraid EscortBiz might cancel your affiliate accounts with him if you speak against him.

Listen you really dont know all the facts, again you are from canada.

Dont get a heart attack over there.

CDSmith 05-24-2003 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief
You know I'm witch poo :)
LM, why the quick edit?

EscortBiz 05-24-2003 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
LM, why the quick edit?

because she felt like it.

notjoe 05-24-2003 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz


Look it is very clear that everyone from canada is all excited over this, and the ladies are bitching.

You know what dont do business with me and thats it.

I know what I do and when I do it.

Good luck

That isnt it at all my friend. I'm not all excited, i really dont know jellohead and couldnt give a flying fuck about her.

I do know you and how you handle your biz and i would have to say you are about one of the few people on the board who are a man of their word.

I know you've always paid everyone you were supposed to, you always held up your end of the bargin and i have heard absolutely 0 bad things about you... That in itself says it all.

I never ever said not to do biz with you or that i wouldnt do biz with you should that ever come up but that i wouldnt rely on ICQ to communicate really because it is prone to problems and i would probably have gone through the same thing as jellohead did if i couldnt get in touch with your or you couldnt get in touch with me

If i offended you in any way/shape/form i'm sorry, maybe i should have keep my yap shut but come on, it wasnt like she was gone for a week+.

This is the first time i ever saw someone let loose on someone over a day or two of no communication.. Didnt the FPA's getting done on time and being of great quality tell you something about jellohead? All im saying is maybe you should have cut her some slack (Taking the FPA's into consideration).

I could see you doing this, with all the reason to do it if she never did any work for you and it was her first job from you and she did this but that wasnt the case.

Whether you like me more or like me less is really up to you, but what is fair is fair and i just think that jellohead kind of got the shitty end of the stick for no real good reason.


PS: this has nothing to do with being canadian or not, this isnt a Canada Vs. USA, this is about right or wrong, and in my humble opinion which probably means fuckall to you or anyone else i think it was wong.

CDSmith 05-24-2003 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
because she smelt like it.
Dude, why the quick edit?


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