WSB... Down the toilet..... Is ibill next?

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  • necoeds
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2002
    • 2453

    #1

    WSB... Down the toilet..... Is ibill next?

    I can't help but think.... Is ibill next?

    I know lensman has repeatedly said that they are fine... but i'm starting to wonder....

    I remember how all the trouble started with WSB... trouble with banks and such.... and now ibill is having trouble is their eu banks.....
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  • eRock
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2001
    • 3112

    #2
    I think WSB was just spending all our money. I mean, where did all that money go?
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    • scoreman
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2001
      • 1491

      #3
      No, id be more worried if i was using Jettis.

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      • gruffy
        So Fucking Banned
        • Feb 2003
        • 776

        #4
        Originally posted by necoeds
        I can't help but think.... Is ibill next?

        Hopefully. I hate those fuckers.

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        • m0rph3us
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2001
          • 2033

          #5
          Originally posted by scoreman
          No, id be more worried if i was using Jettis.
          why?
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          • SleazyDream
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            • Jul 2001
            • 41470

            #6
            Originally posted by m0rph3us


            why?
            I'll second that -WHY?
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            • iroc409
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              • Jan 2003
              • 4728

              #7
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              • dmv69
                Confirmed User
                • Nov 2002
                • 452

                #8
                i hope ibill doesnt go down yet. at least they can go down once i convince the paysite owner to change cc processors. i cant sell bukkake if it dont pay me my money...


                in other news, i havent received my ibill check yet for last month... all output and no input will ruin me i tell ya.
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                • yall
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 175

                  #9
                  I hope iBill dies. Fucking fraud bastards.
                  SEE SIG!

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                  • woodman
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 433

                    #10
                    Originally posted by yall
                    I hope iBill dies. Fucking fraud bastards.
                    be very careful what you wish for

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                    • tony299
                      lurker
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 57021

                      #11
                      ibill isnt going anywhere, you got remember out of all the third party processors , they are the only one ran by a big company. That company reported for the first quarter a profit of 65.2 million dollars (even after the MC fine) up 62.4% from first quarter 2002 40.2 million. Money isnt a problem, they are big now thats why you dont see their CEO on the board. They are cleaning things up, getting rid of problem webmasters, now it costs $15 dollars for a cb and they upped the percentage. They are working on making ibll profitable. This isnt Mom/ Pop which is good and bad. The bad is no personal service like ccbill and epoch, the good is they have lots of cash. My checks come like clock work and cash everytime.

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                      • ajthegreat
                        Registered User
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 61

                        #12
                        I hope those lying bastards go under too. For 2 months they lied to me that the wire was sent, then they just flat ass refused to pay. Really wish I had recorded the conversation when the premiums department told me my wire had already went out.

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                        • PostWhore
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 4720

                          #13
                          funny how Lensman protects iBill...
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                          • KRL
                            Entrepreneur
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 31429

                            #14
                            Originally posted by tony404
                            ibill isnt going anywhere, you got remember out of all the third party processors , they are the only one ran by a big company. That company reported for the first quarter a profit of 65.2 million dollars (even after the MC fine) up 62.4% from first quarter 2002 40.2 million. Money isnt a problem, they are big now thats why you dont see their CEO on the board. They are cleaning things up, getting rid of problem webmasters, now it costs $15 dollars for a cb and they upped the percentage. They are working on making ibll profitable. This isnt Mom/ Pop which is good and bad. The bad is no personal service like ccbill and epoch, the good is they have lots of cash. My checks come like clock work and cash everytime.
                            Tony where you been the past three years? Big companies can go flipity dipity too. American Airlines just narrowly missed going belly up and the situation is still fluid.

                            Things can change overnight in this industry. Companies with huge followings have come and gone and I'md sure we haven't seen the last of it.

                            The only thing you can reliably bank on is change. So prepare for it and diversify so you have hedged bets all over. Whatever you do, don't put all your eggs with one sponsor, or one processor, or one whatever. Spread and protect.
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                            • tony299
                              lurker
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 57021

                              #15
                              Thats why I signed up for Stormpay baby Also the first check that doesnt come I will have a new processor the next day and incentives for my members to move.Homey dont play lol.

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                              • Theo
                                HAL 9000
                                • May 2001
                                • 34515

                                #16
                                Originally posted by scoreman
                                No, id be more worried if i was using Jettis.
                                well?

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                                • DatingGold
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                                  • Feb 2003
                                  • 13185

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by tony404
                                  Thats why I signed up for Stormpay baby Also the first check that doesnt come I will have a new processor the next day and incentives for my members to move.Homey dont play lol.
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                                  • Dax
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Apr 2002
                                    • 3161

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by scoreman
                                    No, id be more worried if i was using Jettis.


                                    Well.... talk.. why do you say that.. I know you defend ibill till death do you appart.. but why take a shot at jettis?

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                                    • tony299
                                      lurker
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 57021

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by DatingGold


                                      how well do incentives to move work?

                                      Who knows but it would be worth a try as opposed to losing them all . lol

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                                      • sweetcuties
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2002
                                        • 5859

                                        #20
                                        Bottom line, save and bank your $$... there's no guarantee about tomorrow. I spent 100k last yr on dumb shit and I don't have that much to show... BANK, BANK, BANK!!!!

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                                        • ajthegreat
                                          Registered User
                                          • Apr 2003
                                          • 61

                                          #21
                                          I think unless you are using DMR or Lancelet Security for your processing you are all fools

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                                          • HardProfits
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Jan 2003
                                            • 346

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by KRL


                                            Tony where you been the past three years? Big companies can go flipity dipity too. American Airlines just narrowly missed going belly up and the situation is still fluid.

                                            Things can change overnight in this industry. Companies with huge followings have come and gone and I'md sure we haven't seen the last of it.

                                            The only thing you can reliably bank on is change. So prepare for it and diversify so you have hedged bets all over. Whatever you do, don't put all your eggs with one sponsor, or one processor, or one whatever. Spread and protect.
                                            Hey KRL _ I will have to call you out here

                                            The BIG difference between iBill and American Airlines is that iBill is owned by InterCept that keeps making good profits (including this last year).

                                            You really cannot compare the two buddy

                                            My 2 Cents: I think that Visa and MasterCard are going to reduce the number of IPSP's in the market place and only deal with the stronger companies that attempt to work within their guidleines (or some more major lawsuits).

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                                            • 4Pics
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Dec 2001
                                              • 7952

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by ajthegreat
                                              I think unless you are using DMR or Lancelet Security for your processing you are all fools
                                              Epoch is no better then these 2 companies...

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                                              • PbG
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • May 2003
                                                • 1025

                                                #24
                                                Oh lawd not DMR . . . Bitch betta have mah money!!


                                                Originally posted by ajthegreat
                                                I think unless you are using DMR or Lancelet Security for your processing you are all fools

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                                                • Kevin2
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • May 2003
                                                  • 1429

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by scoreman
                                                  No, id be more worried if i was using Jettis.
                                                  scoreman are you going to repsond to everyone here that have asked WHY? I would like to know because I am planning on using jettis in the future.

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                                                  • Brent
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                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 939

                                                    #26
                                                    ibills customer service needs to improve drastically.
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                                                    • DTK
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                      • 4546

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by scoreman
                                                      No, id be more worried if i was using Jettis.
                                                      OK, I'll be the sixth person to ask you to clarify
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                                                      • Nosmo King
                                                        Registered User
                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                        • 33

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by DTK


                                                        OK, I'll be the sixth person to ask you to clarify
                                                        Maybe he was referring to the fact that Jettis, like iBill and Epoch is one of the processors that received a hefty credit card fine.

                                                        There is also another thread on Jettis concerns here:

                                                        http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=152148

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                                                        • Filter
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                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                          • 457

                                                          #29
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                                                          • vapewiz
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                            • 1530

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Brent
                                                            ibills customer service needs to improve drastically.
                                                            That's no joke ibill has the absolute WORST support and PR i have ever had to deal with and seen in this biz.

                                                            Also i remember when i was a newbie and epoch took months to send me my checks... anyone remember this? Was like 2-3 years ago and now everyone seems to love them... why do you handle you own payouts with them or they finally send checks out on time?

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