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Old 05-21-2003, 11:59 PM   #1
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Things that haunt your mind....

On mothers day in 1997 I went for a drive with a buddy of mine. We ended up doing some off road shit that almost killed both of us. I was driving in a shallow spot of this creek and was just coming out of the water when the rocks started to slide and the current caught the back of my brand new Explorer, spun us around, and sucked us downstream with the power windows rolled up and the power locks not functioning. Even pulling on the door handles was not working even though they were designed to pop the lock as you pull.

Packing a gun has more than one advantage some days. As the water was filling up the vehicle, I pulled my sig and shot out the passenger window so my buddy could get out. Then I did the same to my own. Believe it or not, I never heard the gun fire.

It took 2 towtrucks, a diver, and 9 hours to pull the Explorer out of that hole. I should have died that day. This thought has haunted me for 6 years and today, for the first time since then, I took a drive out to the same place it all happened. I am not sure why , perhaps I was looking for some closure.

I love this area and use to frequent it all the time just to relax, fish, and on that day....swim. (unintentionally) Today things were a little different for me but I still enjoyed the scenery and the company was better looking as well.

The red circle is where the vehicle settled in. Only an inch or 2 of the roof rack could be seen.




For those familiar with the Columbia River area...The area is Eagle Creek and right in front of Rachel is the Columbia River and Bonneville Dam.

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Damn. Nice escape tho

Maybe it was the water pressure that prevented you from opening the doors and not the locks?
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Damn. Nice escape tho

Maybe it was the water pressure that prevented you from opening the doors and not the locks?
As I recall, The locks would not even pop which happens before the doors open. It was very strange. The angle of the drop off would not have permitted the doors to be open afer the pressure was equalized. The creek is pretty narrow there and I had no idea how deep it dropped off.

If I did not have that gun, I would not be here today.
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I have some things that haunt me, but then i saw her ass and all was better.
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I have some things that haunt me, but then i saw her ass and all was better.
I will be sure to pass that on to her. You can look but if you touch, I will break you piece by piece.
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that's seriously amazing. especially being able to put that many rational thoughts together so quickly. pull out gun. shoot out windows.

i rolled a convertible sports car in the summer of 2000 with my brother as the passenger.

i can barely remember it - the adrenaline levels were so high. i was knocked out for maybe 30 seconds, my brother pulled me out, i woke up, and we sat at the side of the road. it was like a dream. the car was fucking disintergrated. when the ambulance arrived, they walked right by us and started trying to get into the car. didn't realize we were the passengers lol.
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I will be sure to pass that on to her. You can look but if you touch, I will break you piece by piece.
I can only ever look.....my wife would kill me otherwise
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that's seriously amazing. especially being able to put that many rational thoughts together so quickly. pull out gun. shoot out windows.

i rolled a convertible sports car in the summer of 2000 with my brother as the passenger.

i can barely remember it - the adrenaline levels were so high. i was knocked out for maybe 30 seconds, my brother pulled me out, i woke up, and we sat at the side of the road. it was like a dream. the car was fucking disintergrated. when the ambulance arrived, they walked right by us and started trying to get into the car. didn't realize we were the passengers lol.
Rational? I left out the part where the engine died and stupid me put the car in park and tried to start it again. When I got out, I freaked because I did not see my friend. Turns out he was already on the far bank. I just sat on the roof and laughed.
Here is the really fucked up thing...When we started to go in...The windows were down. I rolled them up thinking that I could still drive out of the situation without splashing water on the leather seats. Trapped myself in the thing cause once the windows were up, they stopped working.

Rational you say? I call it luck. My Grandfather had died just a few weeks before this and to this day, my mother thinks he was watching over me.

This was also my first real experience with Deja vu. When they were pulling the rig out, I flashed back and realized that I had seen this same scene in a recent dream then I got cold and my body hair was standing on end.

Freaky shit.
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Rational? I left out the part where the engine died and stupid me put the car in park and tried to start it again. When I got out, I freaked because I did not see my friend. Turns out he was already on the far bank. I just sat on the roof and laughed.
Here is the really fucked up thing...When we started to go in...The windows were down. I rolled them up thinking that I could still drive out of the situation without splashing water on the leather seats. Trapped myself in the thing cause once the windows were up, they stopped working.

Rational you say? I call it luck. My Grandfather had died just a few weeks before this and to this day, my mother thinks he was watching over me.

This was also my first real experience with Deja vu. When they were pulling the rig out, I flashed back and realized that I had seen this same scene in a recent dream then I got cold and my body hair was standing on end.

Freaky shit.
that's more like it. i had no real concept of how much time passed. that was the strangest thing of all.

it was like a dream. sitting in the ditch, watching smoke rise from what used to be my sports car. crazy...

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that's more like it. i had no real concept of how much time passed. that was the strangest thing of all.

it was like a dream. sitting in the ditch, watching smoke rise from what used to be my sports car. crazy...

Dude, I can so picture that along with the feeling and the slow motion playback of it all. Realtime has no place in these situations. Things go real slow when you are that close to death. Takes some time for life to catch up to you again.

Been there on a few occasions...I will not go into the others on a message board though. Maybe one day over a few drinks.....

I don't know how long it all took. Strange how something can happen so quickly yet be going on in slow motion at the same time. I get the feeling that you know exactly the type of experience that I am talking about.
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Maybe one day over a few drinks.....

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When I was young 8-12 I used to have nightmares about falling. Never has happened but you know what a pussy I am when it comes to heights.
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Been there on a few occasions...I will not go into the others on a message board though. Maybe one day over a few drinks.....

I don't know how long it all took. Strange how something can happen so quickly yet be going on in slow motion at the same time. I get the feeling that you know exactly the type of experience that I am talking about.
definitely. and... definitely
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When I was young 8-12 I used to have nightmares about falling. Never has happened but you know what a pussy I am when it comes to heights.
Yep...You shake like a bitch.

BTW...Rachel was asking about you the other day. I told her you were still old and ugly.
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WE sure have all our moment when Time just stand still and you wonder when you are going to fuken wake up !

I was 12 year old at the time... My father had a sickness syndrome of many things. Lets jsut say a family thing with alcool and abuse in different forms..

I woke up one nite.. I could hear them fighting My Mother and Him... It seemed like a sec... Time just stood still... Built up adrenaline big time I felt strong but he was stronger of course...

Dammm I tryed to stop him but he was stronger.... I witness my father killing my Mom with his Gun... Just like that .... snap a finger ....she was gone....

Can't explain in words the memory and feelings .. the numnous.. the pain... I could not go back in time... That's how I feel.. I wish I wish... I would of or could of... becasue I felt the tension all nite but never tough he would actually do this...

It's like a video in my head continuously trying to stop this....

But ...Depending on the individual experiences like this can ruine a person life or may Grow stronger and a serviver...

I made a reasech + my experience and built prevention programme on Power Point Presentation Called
Family Violence: : I've had enought ! "
As a nurse I do conferencs in secondary school.... no need to say that My Animanted pictures,,, words , text,, role play and Me sharing my stories about my childhood makes a diffrence...

It's been therapeutic for me and for many kids !!! As in my own way I contribut ways to how to prevent and to stop the cycle of violence.

Helping the futur generation to be more responsible of there actions..

Everything in life happends for a reason... it jsut takes a bit of time to understand why !

Nice thread... THanks, Merci
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I was in a serious car wreck back in '94. My daughter was about 4 months old, and we (my ex and me) were going to my grandmother's house. I don't remember the impact at all -- you know how floppy little babies' heads are, right? When we got hit, I was sitting in the back seat, passenger side, leaning over my daughter and holding my hand over her forehead to keep her head from snapping around when we went over the bump into my grandmother's driveway.

The next thing I remember is coming to -- and coming to was like fighting my way up to the surface of a big, cloudy pool of water -- and finding my ex and my father-in-law (they lived in the apartment above my grandmother) screaming at me to wake up. I looked around, saw that the space where my daughter's car seat had been strapped in was empty, and promptly passed out again.

My family said I woke up again a few seconds later screaming like a wild woman about my daughter, where was she, was she dead, were they hiding her body from me -- that kind of thing. I don't remember that part very well. Anyway, she was fine, she'd been strapped into her infant seat, and they brought her out to the car to show me. Since my grandmother lived out in the boonies, it took about 10 minutes for an ambulance to get there, and apparently I kept passing out and coming to screaming for my child -- they'd show her to me, I'd stop screaming, pass out again...lather, rinse, repeat.

What had happened was that we had been t-boned by a drunk who'd run off the road and actually hit us while we were in my grandmother's driveway. His tiretracks were in the yard, behind the fucking mailbox. It was rainy that day, and my ex had looked for oncoming cars before making a left turn, but due to the rain and the fact that the guy wasn't even on the road, he didn't notice the other car. We got hit while we were nearly stopped and the other guy was going all-fucking-out.

Our car did a 180 and we ended up in the front yard. I had been sitting exactly where the other car hit us, the back passenger-side door -- my head had been thrown through the window I was sitting next to, breaking it out, and one front corner of the guy's hood had torn through the door and left some wreckage sticking through and against my leg, cutting the shit out of it. My ex wasn't hurt, and neither was my baby, but I'd been unconsious and they were afraid to move me.

The weird thing is, I pretty much walked away from it after the hospital released me. I had some cuts and scrapes from the metal of the door, and I was one solid bruise from the side-swell of my right breast all the way down to my knee, but I didn't have a concussion (according to the stupid hospital, I don't agree with them there) and no broken bones. The doctor said the only thing that saved me was that I was relaxed and not tensed up in anticipation of the crash, because I'd never seen it coming.

The other guy was a Mexican national in a borrowed car, with no insurance, so we never got anything out of it, period. He was sobered up pretty well by the time DPS got there, thanks to my grandmother's fuckstick drugdealing neighbors giving him coffee and shit, so the DPS didn't even give him a breathalyzer...and to top it all off, my EX was the one who got a ticket for "not yielding the right-of-way."

That was the only time as an adult that I can remember feeling genuinely afraid I was going to die -- not knowing how bad I was hurt, not being able to move, dropping in and out of consciousness like that...and I will NEVER forget how bone-deep scared I was that my daughter was dead and they'd taken her body out of the car...
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Yep...You shake like a bitch.

BTW...Rachel was asking about you the other day. I told her you were still old and ugly.
Fucking helicopters are fucking dangerous, they killed more US/UK soldiers than the Iraqis.

Give my regards to Rachel. She was still asking about me after 5 months, you see the old Markham charm still works.

Or was she just asking if I was stil alive?

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I don't know how long it all took. Strange how something can happen so quickly yet be going on in slow motion at the same time. I get the feeling that you know exactly the type of experience that I am talking about.
Gotta love that adrenaline...
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Fucking helicopters are fucking dangerous, they killed more US/UK soldiers than the Iraqis.

Give my regards to Rachel. She was still asking about me after 5 months, you see the old Markham charm still works.

Or was she just asking if I was stil alive?
It was more of a pitty thing, I think. She also asked if I thought you would try hitting on her again at the summer Internext.
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aaron, sounds like you have a angel with you . Here's my close call with death.

A couple of friends and me went out drinking one night I was about 17 or so. At around 3am we left the bar with a girl I had picked up and went to burn one and cruise for a little while. There was a dirt road with a couple of bridges that we would ride down to so we wouldnt be really bothered by anyone. Well the guy driving was going a little to fast on the dirt and started fishtailing just as we were coming to the 2nd and biggest bridge. I remember him saying "oh fuck" as I felt the car go off the edge of the bridge, I was laying in the backseat making out with the girl when it happened and I remember feeling the car start to flip over on it's roof as we fell the 30/40 feet to the creek below. As soon as the car hit the water it filled up with water. I remember being in the back seat waiting on the fuckhead that was driving trying to get his seatbelt off as I was holding my breath. Damn it seemed like it took forever. Anyhow, he got out the other guy got out of his side. How both doors opened I dont know. After I got to the surface and called for everyone the girl didnt respond. So I went back down and found her laying in the car. I got her out and got her to the shore and did cpu to get her breathing again. She came to luckly and I carried her 2 miles to the nearest house to call for help. The damn people at the house barely let us use the phone. I guess they thought 4 wet and bloody kids were going to do somehting to them:/ Anyhow, everyone was pretty much Ok, I was the only one to not get a scatch on me. The roof of the car hit a stump and was level with the hood and trunk. I wish I had a picture because you would never know anyone survived at all.

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aaron, sounds like you have a angel with you . Here's my close call with death.

A couple of friends and me went out drinking one night I was about 17 or so. At around 3am we left the bar with a girl I had picked up and went to burn one and cruise for a little while. There was a dirt road with a couple of bridges that we would ride down to so we wouldnt be really bothered by anyone. Well the guy driving was going a little to fast on the dirt and started fishtailing just as we were coming to the 2nd and biggest bridge. I remember him saying "oh fuck" as I felt the car go off the edge of the bridge, I was laying in the backseat making out with the girl when it happened and I remember feeling the car start to flip over on it's roof as we fell the 30/40 feet to the creek below. As soon as the car hit the water it filled up with water. I remember being in the back seat waiting on the fuckhead that was driving trying to get his seatbelt off as I was holding my breath. Damn it seemed like it took forever. Anyhow, he got out the other guy got out of his side. How both doors opened I dont know. After I got to the surface and called for everyone the girl didnt respond. So I went back down and found her laying in the car. I got her out and got her to the shore and did cpu to get her breathing again. She came to luckly and I carried her 2 miles to the nearest house to call for help. The damn people at the house barely let us use the phone. I guess they thought 4 wet and bloody kids were going to do somehting to them:/ Anyhow, everyone was pretty much Ok, I was the only one to not get a scatch on me. The roof of the car hit a stump and was level with the hood and trunk. I wish I had a picture because you would never know anyone survived at all.

I know I have a angel

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Scary story.

The smart ass in me wants to ask if you got laid but the nice guy in me will refrain from asking such a fucked up question.

The diver got some pics of my rig as they were pulling it out but I have not been able to reach him to get copies.

It was the cleanest totaled vehicle you have ever seen though. Not a scratch on it either. The insurace company was going to try to repair it but when they got the interior quote back it was over 12 grand. God only knows what the engine and electrical would have cost.
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I've been in a similar, but less life threatening, situation off roading before...rivers can be brutal
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If you take a strong key or a screw diver or some sort of fairly strong pointy metal object and push it with a bit of force against any submerged car window...it will shatter with ease...

Just for future reference.


I also know how to survive an aligator attack, jump from a burning building, and survive many other obscure life threatening situations...I love the "Worst case scenario" book series...
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Aaron - How much did it cost to have the truck fished out of the river? I've always wondered what they charge for that sort of thing.
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Aaron - How much did it cost to have the truck fished out of the river? I've always wondered what they charge for that sort of thing.
I honestly do not recall. I think it was around $800 or so but would have to find the records to be sure. The insurace company paid for it. The fuckers also called it a collision accident. They said I colided with the water. It was on my driving record for 3 years.
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Scary story.

The smart ass in me wants to ask if you got laid but the nice guy in me will refrain from asking such a fucked up question.

The diver got some pics of my rig as they were pulling it out but I have not been able to reach him to get copies.

It was the cleanest totaled vehicle you have ever seen though. Not a scratch on it either. The insurace company was going to try to repair it but when they got the interior quote back it was over 12 grand. God only knows what the engine and electrical would have cost.

About a week later(she spent 3 days in the hospital) I got some Then she sent me packing, guess it was thanks for saving my life pussy:/
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Old 05-22-2003, 12:21 PM   #32
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I honestly do not recall. I think it was around $800 or so but would have to find the records to be sure. The insurace company paid for it. The fuckers also called it a collision accident. They said I colided with the water. It was on my driving record for 3 years.
You collided with the water? Oh man, that's funny in a "glad it wasn't me" sort of way. I guess they figured that you cost them a lot of money, they were going to get it back through a rate hike.
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Old 05-22-2003, 12:26 PM   #33
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It was more of a pitty thing, I think. She also asked if I thought you would try hitting on her again at the summer Internext.
She was just masking her true feelings to save yours. See how much she loves you.
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I have a few - one of the most resent was driving past one of my friends house, and see here stand in the driveway kissing a guy that wasent here husband. Its the second time this month one of my friends does that - Girls are sluts
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She was just masking her true feelings to save yours. See how much she loves you.
I never questioned her love for me. I know exactly where that stands.

She refers to you as the nice but lonely old man. Please bring Eva on your next trip here. I am sure the two of them would get along well.
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I have a few - one of the most resent was driving past one of my friends house, and see here stand in the driveway kissing a guy that wasent here husband. Its the second time this month one of my friends does that - Girls are sluts
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Dude..Aaron.. you better get a bigger gun if you ever need, (or want) to stop a full grown human......

even my .22 would have blown your buddy's eardrums out from that shot at his window, inside of a closed in environment, and the gun had to be close enough to burn him to get the angle to shoot the window....adrenilane would not have protected this...that is funny though cause all of the people responding don't know shit about guns it looks like, hahaha.....this board has the best drama, I think I am getting addicted this is good stuff...

Aaron you and Boneprone really know how to get a thread going...I salute you Oh El GFY cappyton!!!
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Dude..Aaron.. you better get a bigger gun if you ever need, (or want) to stop a full grown human......

even my .22 would have blown your buddy's eardrums out from that shot at his window, inside of a closed in environment, and the gun had to be close enough to burn him to get the angle to shoot the window....adrenilane would not have protected this...that is funny though cause all of the people responding don't know shit about guns it looks like, hahaha.....this board has the best drama, I think I am getting addicted this is good stuff...

Aaron you and Boneprone really know how to get a thread going...I salute you Oh El GFY cappyton!!!
You are full of shit or retarded.

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In the words of Roger V...

You never lose your girl, you only lose your turn.
"sloppy seconds" sux
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Dude..Aaron.. you better get a bigger gun if you ever need, (or want) to stop a full grown human......

even my .22 would have blown your buddy's eardrums out from that shot at his window, inside of a closed in environment, and the gun had to be close enough to burn him to get the angle to shoot the window....adrenilane would not have protected this...that is funny though cause all of the people responding don't know shit about guns it looks like, hahaha.....this board has the best drama, I think I am getting addicted this is good stuff...

Aaron you and Boneprone really know how to get a thread going...I salute you Oh El GFY cappyton!!!
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I never questioned her love for me. I know exactly where that stands.

She refers to you as the nice but lonely old man. Please bring Eva on your next trip here. I am sure the two of them would get along well.
I'm sure you do and they would.

Cant see it happening for Miami, we got two webmasters out and one of the girls pregnant. Fely fucking lonely that night, after the helicopter ride running around town, all we could find was ear blasting discos full of drunk webmasters. Thanks for looking after the old man.
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Old 05-22-2003, 03:53 PM   #42
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AaronM any flash back anxiaety ?? sometimes ???
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Dude..Aaron.. you better get a bigger gun if you ever need, (or want) to stop a full grown human......

even my .22 would have blown your buddy's eardrums out from that shot at his window, inside of a closed in environment, and the gun had to be close enough to burn him to get the angle to shoot the window....adrenilane would not have protected this...that is funny though cause all of the people responding don't know shit about guns it looks like, hahaha.....this board has the best drama, I think I am getting addicted this is good stuff...

Aaron you and Boneprone really know how to get a thread going...I salute you Oh El GFY cappyton!!!
This is a very true story bro. You ever been hunting and fired at a deer or an elk? You don't really hear the shot but if you fire that same gun at the range...Your ears will be ringing for the rest of the day.

When I was 18 I did a dumb thing and shot my 40 cal through my car door...From inside my car while driving on the freeway. It hurt my ears for a bit but did no damage.

The Sig in question is a P228 9mm. Adrenaline is a powerful thing.

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Nope....Just thoughts of "what if?"

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Nope....Just thought of "what if?"

Wow your luckyy but still think about that in your head often right ?/

I dont know if you read my story up there but I know that after my father did this... tragedy ...the plolice said there was bullet for all my family member in the house and him.... WE could all eeb shoot..... we were lucky... I guess life is full of suprise Hey ?
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I need to say this..... this thread is so different and reality and getting to know people is really this sharing ourselves experience......

the board is fun..but sometimes to much personal attack.. that i dont even care to jsutify myself or defend as this message borad is like a fantasy world,, jsut to let ourselve go crazy and havre fumm
But i most say its refreshing to talk about real thing in life sometimes...


Thanks AAron !! XOXOXOXOXO
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I need to say this..... this thread is so different and reality and getting to know people is really this sharing ourselves experience......

the board is fun..but sometimes to much personal attack.. that i dont even care to jsutify myself or defend as this message borad is like a fantasy world,, jsut to let ourselve go crazy and havre fumm
But i most say its refreshing to talk about real thing in life sometimes...


Thanks AAron !! XOXOXOXOXO
Is this where I tell you to fuck off?
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Is this where I tell you to fuck off?
Awww, does somebody need a hug?
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Is this where I tell you to fuck off?


LMAo You mean fuck me?
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Awww, does somebody need a hug?

Ye you right AAron need a HUg... .... he not a asshole like he pretends to be... He love to play games in ere ... he makes this board ROCK.. e knows hoe to trigger people.... can't wait to see him in person.... see hoe bad he really is...
I could bet his jsut a teddy bear !!!!!
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