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foe · 05-22-2003, 09:12 PM

my

gone i wil go kill myself now

[dfo] · 05-22-2003, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
you think the owners of WSB left with lots of cash?

of course, I'm sure they knew they were going under months ago. They knew if they kept promising payouts that some people would still keep pushing wsb sites and subsequently fill up their pockets before shutting up shop

kmanrox · 05-22-2003, 09:16 PM

note to the wise, now may be a good time to start exploring ways to process for yourself somehow =)

[dfo] · 05-22-2003, 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by eRock

I'm in the same boat as you. I'm owed thousands...and all them rebills just went down the fucking tubes too! I haven't been paid since feb. 16th till now...

Of course, the schmucks kept takin' everyone's money up till the last fuckin' minute.

Can't blame TripleXcash tho...

you definately can't blame triplex, but it would be nice if they helped out people who got fucked by bumping up payout percentages, at least for a short time.

it'd be a nice gesture if anything.

Raven · 05-22-2003, 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by [dfo]

you definately can't blame triplex, but it would be nice if they helped out people who got fucked by bumping up payout percentages, at least for a short time.

it'd be a nice gesture if anything.

You're kidding, right?

WarChild · 05-22-2003, 09:19 PM

Yeah .. the thing is they couldn't have figured out they were going out of business, 5 minutes before they did.

If we assume that's true, and we know that they did in fact keep promising payouts would come, and everything was fine. I know this is true, because they did it to me.

Doesn't this consitute fraud under US law? And if so, wouldn't any directors of WSB be liable for that? Corporation or no corpation, you can't commit fraud.

Maybe we should just call the FBI.

Daymon

[dfo] · 05-22-2003, 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by Raven

You're kidding, right?

not at all..

Raven · 05-22-2003, 09:23 PM

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Originally posted by NetRodent

Sypro, Heh! I went to a job interview with them, it was like 3 guys in rundown building with a very scary elevator.

And, the honeyed words that flowed out of their mouths...ah, yes...as we hoped for any payment, we were busily talking to CC Bill, who hooked us up...

We lost our rebills but we were still in business, without missing a beat, thanks to CC Bill....who made it very clear they would help all the Sypro clients....I will never forget that.

Zprogramz · 05-22-2003, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox
note to the wise, now may be a good time to start exploring ways to process for yourself somehow =)

You are so right. We got our own merchant accounts and went with Netbilling a couple of years ago. It is the best move we ever made.

Z

eRock · 05-22-2003, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WarChild
Yeah .. the thing is they couldn't have figured out they were going out of business, 5 minutes before they did.

If we assume that's true, and we know that they did in fact keep promising payouts would come, and everything was fine. I know this is true, because they did it to me.

Doesn't this consitute fraud under US law? And if so, wouldn't any directors of WSB be liable for that? Corporation or no corpation, you can't commit fraud.

Maybe we should just call the FBI.

Daymon

They haven't answered my emails or answered phones in weeks...

RedShoe · 05-22-2003, 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by [dfo]

not at all..

you must be.

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=136272

[dfo] · 05-22-2003, 09:37 PM

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Originally posted by RedShoe

you must be.

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=136272

maybe I should have read some more threads. ;)

that's great news, you are truly stand up guys over there.

m0rph3us · 05-22-2003, 09:38 PM

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Originally posted by Zprogramz

You are so right. We got our own merchant accounts and went with Netbilling a couple of years ago. It is the best move we ever made.

Z

hey I gotta ask you a quick q. do you have ICQ or email ?

Zprogramz · 05-22-2003, 09:54 PM

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Originally posted by m0rph3us

hey I gotta ask you a quick q. do you have ICQ or email ?

[email protected]

DatingGold · 05-22-2003, 09:59 PM

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Originally posted by woodman
Worst case is that the bank holds the funds for awhile to cover future chargebacks and refunds. Even so, they will walk with no less than 50% of what they have on deposit currently and that is if they have a very high chargeback rate over the following months.

Just because they stop processing does not give the bank the right to hold the funds unless they were doing something illegal to begin with. The bank can hold the funds for x amount of time to cover their exposure.

They took bad business, they knew that when they took it, and now all their webmasters are paying for it.

If there are reserves in the bank there should be some legal actions against it.

DatingGold · 05-22-2003, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zprogramz

You are so right. We got our own merchant accounts and went with Netbilling a couple of years ago. It is the best move we ever made.

Z

can you contact me? got a question for you :-)

thanks

WarChild · 05-22-2003, 10:08 PM

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They haven't answered my emails or answered phones in weeks...

I talked to Carmen on wednesday.

At first she pretended it wasn't her on the phone, but I recognized her voice.

She said, and I paraphrase here "We are still waiting on hold backs from the bank. What happened is some of our customers were up to no good, and this caused the bank to hold our deposits. They can't hold them forever, they will eventually be released, but we don't know when. Everything is fine though, we are processing as normal."

Either she was making stuff up or .. More likely, she was snowed by her bosses to some extent. Somebody should have realized people were making promises that nobody intended to keep. Somebody at the top should be responsible.

Daymon

Jay_StandAhead · 05-22-2003, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by clubsexy

I just started selling good for you too. I hadn't checked my stats, but I had 3 sales this week and 12 so far.

What's gonna happen to HypnoTrick?

Guess I should point out that we don't use WSB for hypnotrick and never did, but the money WSB owes us is for CollegeFuckFest.

quiet · 05-22-2003, 10:48 PM

That is terrible news. And it's only going to get worse.

sextoyking · 05-22-2003, 10:52 PM

This sucks for anyone who used WSB.

I remember the sypro failure, it was bad but nothing like the DMR fuck up, man alot of my friends got hurt the day they closed shop.

I would recommend to pull up your boot straps, contact CCBill, Epoch, Jettis, etc.

I bet wsb will never send 1 cent out to anyone...

Sucks....

Were in a high risk biz, things like this happen, I know nobody wants to hear that, but.....

BJ · 05-22-2003, 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
That is terrible news. And it's only going to get worse.

well....

no shit......

at least someone has their head on straight.......

its not like you open a restaurant and process with ccbill....

jxt-never · 05-22-2003, 11:32 PM

Hello Jeff ,

Yes i know you are the best(?) one in the industry (it seems like that ). But why CCbill doesnt works with Turkish webmasters? Do you think all the Turkish people , especially webmasters are BANDIT ???
Do you know all the ROBBERS where come from?
Read the answer:
I lost alot of money about $3000 , at first (2 years ago) Lancelot(USA) after oxbill (europa based)and now websitebilling (USA&UK)!
I m sure %99 of them are HONEST but think again to work with webmasters from USA and Europa.(?)

Turkiye is an europian country and much more better then most of europian countries.!

Now i m in contact with ibill for my sites (i trust them for now), and i want to add another one. Because i learned only one think in this industry there is no one HONEST cc proccesor company. Most of them are legal PARASITE..! May be CCbill is not but I dont have any luck to learn it. Because i m a Turkish webmaster.

I m proud to be a TURK!

Thanks for your time to read and best wishes for you.

----------------*------------*-------------------------------------

Cavinguy,

CCBill EU has been in full compliance with Visa & Mastercard from the very beginning. CCBill is currently in good standing and plans to continue processing for our European clients.

If we can be of any help please do not hesitate to contact our sales department at [email protected] or contact me.

Jeff N.
Sales Director
Jeff@CCBill
888 906 0666 ex 153

Madball · 05-22-2003, 11:32 PM

Does anybody know which EU aquiring bank WSB was using?

4Pics · 05-22-2003, 11:49 PM

Anyone who hasn't already should get a Netbilling and CCbill account and stop fucking around with the unknown's or those who might be shaky!

EscortBiz · 05-22-2003, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PureMeds

well....

no shit......

at least someone has their head on straight.......

its not like you open a restaurant and process with ccbill....

Kimmykim · 05-23-2003, 12:36 AM

Oh for fucks sake, you people drive me nuts.

I like the guys at WSB personally, but you know what?

From what I understood last fall, they, like some others that I surely don't even need to mention, chose the course of NOT DOING WHAT THE FUCK THEY WERE TOLD TO DO BY VISA.

But ohhhhhh,myyyy, all the fucking boohooing over $750 to register sites properly and be in compliance and how bad the Big Three or whatever you want to call them were for charging such a thing and registering people properly and staying in compliance with Visa...

I'm in complete and utter disbelief that it surprises anyone that a third party biller that was not in compliance with Visa to start with is now out of business.

That's what happens when Visa US is now in charge of compliance for Visa International too. All the people that thought they were going to get away with something are starting to figure out that shit ain't gonna fly and they will be put in a position where they have to do things for customers in order to try and stay ahead of the game that only put them even further into trouble in the end.

You want to be smart? Get with a compliant processor. That is the ONLY thing that is wise at the moment. There is a reason that big sites don't process on their own merchant accounts any more, they don't like the risk level against their own credit.

And thats the end of that rant.

the indigo · 05-23-2003, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Oh for fucks sake, you people drive me nuts.

I like the guys at WSB personally, but you know what?

From what I understood last fall, they, like some others that I surely don't even need to mention, chose the course of NOT DOING WHAT THE FUCK THEY WERE TOLD TO DO BY VISA.

But ohhhhhh,myyyy, all the fucking boohooing over $750 to register sites properly and be in compliance and how bad the Big Three or whatever you want to call them were for charging such a thing and registering people properly and staying in compliance with Visa...

I'm in complete and utter disbelief that it surprises anyone that a third party biller that was not in compliance with Visa to start with is now out of business.

That's what happens when Visa US is now in charge of compliance for Visa International too. All the people that thought they were going to get away with something are starting to figure out that shit ain't gonna fly and they will be put in a position where they have to do things for customers in order to try and stay ahead of the game that only put them even further into trouble in the end.

You want to be smart? Get with a compliant processor. That is the ONLY thing that is wise at the moment. There is a reason that big sites don't process on their own merchant accounts any more, they don't like the risk level against their own credit.

And thats the end of that rant.

What is your position on the "Offshore Billers" like ACPay and Globill?

Kimmykim · 05-23-2003, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by the indigo

What is your position on the "Offshore Billers" like ACPay and Globill?

Was that a joke or did you just not read my post?

You DO NOT fuck with Visa. They are way more sensible than Mastercard is and they seem to have settled down for the time being, at least with those in compliance.

bignosejimmy · 05-23-2003, 01:02 AM

Anyone remember DMR?

quiet · 05-23-2003, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bignosejimmy
Anyone remember DMR?

yes. this has a different flavor to it...

SGS · 05-23-2003, 01:33 AM

Sorry to hear the bad news for you guys and news like this sends shivers down all of our spines...

SGS · 05-23-2003, 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by DatingGold

If there are reserves in the bank there should be some legal actions against it.

Not under UK law I am afraid.

funkmaster · 05-23-2003, 01:43 AM

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Originally posted by bignosejimmy
Anyone remember DMR?

... yes, but I was sending all traffic to fantasyman that day and unlike today he showed manners and payed up ...

European Lee · 05-23-2003, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SGS
Not under UK law I am afraid.

Errrr actually...

If a limited company goes under in the UK and has assets (as the funds in their bank accounts would be) those assets are legally supposed to be used to clear their debts. However, the only thing you cant do under UK law to a LTD company is try to aquire assets of the individual directors of the said company. Also, shareholds of any LTD company may also be liable for unpaid shares etc etc etc...

So in fact you could take legal proceedings against WSB due to the fact they owe you money (also known as a debt of the company.)

Didnt attend business management courses for nothing it seems

Regards,

Lee

the indigo · 05-23-2003, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

Was that a joke or did you just not read my post?

You DO NOT fuck with Visa. They are way more sensible than Mastercard is and they seem to have settled down for the time being, at least with those in compliance.

Well both ACPay and Globill said they were 100% in compliance with Visa.

Two of the "Big Three" (IBill and Epoch) are in trouble right now... but everything works fine with the 2 biggest international/offshore billers.

So no, it is not a joke. Tell me your position on these billers... or maybe you don't have a clue about how they work without charging the $750 fees?

SGS · 05-23-2003, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee

Errrr actually...

if a limited company goes under in the UK and has assets (as the funds in their bank accounts would be) those assets are legally supposed to be used to clear their debts. However, the only thing you cant do under UK law to a LTD company is try to aquire assets of the individual directorys of the said company. Also, shareholds of any LTD company may also be liable for unpaid shares etc etc etc...

So in fact you could take legal proceedings against WSB due to the fact they owe you money (also known as a debt of the company.)

Didint attend business management courses for nothing it seems

Regards,

Lee

We have a UK limited company ourselves (as well as Spanish and US limited companies) and over the years have been owed money by other UK limited companies that have gone bust. The bottom line is don?t hold your breath as the preferential creditors will be a very long and lonely list and any legal action would just be a way of burning a lot more money for very little chance of return.

Kimmykim · 05-23-2003, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by the indigo

Well both ACPay and Globill said they were 100% in compliance with Visa.

Two of the "Big Three" (IBill and Epoch) are in trouble right now... but everything works fine with the 2 biggest international/offshore billers.

So no, it is not a joke. Tell me your position on these billers... or maybe you don't have a clue about how they work without charging the $750 fees?

I can tell you I'm the Queen of England but that don't make it so.

If you are a US company and you are processing with someone who is settling outside of the US -- which would mean that you did NOT pay the fee and register as Visa is REQUIRING, then I'd be thinking about my future.

Especially since you are NOT allowed to acquire in multiple regions for the same sites, that can get you terminated and blacklisted.

IBill and Epoch are not in trouble, I don't know where you come up with that -- Jettis has also admitted to being fined under the STUPID Mastercard monopoly and I will bet you every dime you own that EVERY other processor has been as well, but is just keeping quiet about it.

IBill has a massive corporation behind them, one that just posted something like a 62% increase in profits for the quarter. That is certainly not in trouble. Epoch didn't pass the Mastercard bs fines on to their clients, so that doesn't sound like they are in trouble either.

As to how they work without charging the $750? While I am no genie, my guess is not going to be too fucking well once Visa gets through with them... they'll either be charging the fee and registering folks properly or Visa will take action --

but then again you already knew that the guys from Compliance for Visa US have taken over Compliance for Visa International, right?

OY · 05-23-2003, 02:11 AM

IT IS GETTING TIRING TO SAY THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN, BUT HERE IT IS AGAIN:

Take control yourself and use multiple processor with a cascading solution and this will not happen to you!!!

MPA2 use the best processors in this industry. Both ISPS's and gateways for those using their own merchant account. With a click of a button you can disable a processor if something like DMR (now that was a good one back in the days) and WSB happens.

So start being smart and invest in your own future!!!

PS. Mansion Productions will pay all the VISA reg. fees for new MPA2 clients..

Calvinguy · 05-23-2003, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein
IT IS GETTING TIRING TO SAY THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN, BUT HERE IT IS AGAIN:

Take control yourself and use multiple processor with a cascading solution and this will not happen to you!!!

MPA2 use the best processors in this industry. Both ISPS's and gateways for those using their own merchant account. With a click of a button you can disable a processor if something like DMR (now that was a good one back in the days) and WSB happens.

So start being smart and invest in your own future!!!

SPAM

OY · 05-23-2003, 02:24 AM

Calvinguy - Not really, I have said it over and over and over again...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=114166

funkmaster · 05-23-2003, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein
IT IS GETTING TIRING TO SAY THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN, BUT HERE IT IS AGAIN:

Take control yourself and use multiple processor with a cascading solution and this will not happen to you!!!

... so the MPA system also covers payouts whenever a processor goes down? or will you pay them out of your pockets ??

... no offence, but your system hasn´t got anything to do with this thread.

NoCarrier · 05-23-2003, 03:02 AM

Funny how some people still believe they are going to get paid even after this announcement.

HELLLLO? (Slap in the face) It's fucking over. Websitebilling = gone. Some people are drinking margaritas on a beach with your money. Get over it. It's fucking over. The End.

Geez.

I can't believe you guys actually believed in that company. Do a search on GFY about "websitebilling". Print all the threads and read them all over again... Maybe you will understand how ignorant and stupid some people were and how propaganda really works.

OY · 05-23-2003, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster

... so the MPA system also covers payouts whenever a processor goes down? or will you pay them out of your pockets ??

... no offence, but your system hasn´t got anything to do with this thread.

Funkyfunk - MPA2 has everything to do with this thread. MPA2 puts the webmaster in better control over the processors that are handling your money. Period.

No offence taken...

RedShoe · 05-23-2003, 03:30 AM

MPA2 is one bad ass set up!

Number1Thumb · 05-23-2003, 03:49 AM

The chant gets louder in my ear everyday CCBILL-CCBILL-CCBILL

Number1Thumb · 05-23-2003, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Andersen
SCRUB-SCRUB-SCRUB , anyway, better with scrub then being shut down i guess

YEP CHECK EVERY WEDNESDAY-CHECK EVERY WEDNESDAY-CHECK EVERY WEDNESDAY and not a bad one at that. I just feel sick for all the guys out of cash. Im sure many a guys were needin that money to stay a float and live. Wether its 200 or 20k

cotsios · 05-23-2003, 05:30 AM

FUCK WBST

We are down because of them and now we are looking for a new processor again

cotsios · 05-23-2003, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein

Funkyfunk - MPA2 has everything to do with this thread. MPA2 puts the webmaster in better control over the processors that are handling your money. Period.

No offence taken...

Were thinking to use you but you are very expensive.

Master_Yoba · 05-23-2003, 05:51 AM

bad day

They owe us a lot of money. Yes, we switched around 1.5 months ago but we still have rebills with them. It's actually good that wsb was just backup processor for us. CCBill rules

We have a dump of all wsb members' emails and we're going to offer them to initiate charge back processes. I know that we will not get our money but members can get it from that fucking bank and fucking VISA/MC. It will be porn for free action

Madball · 05-23-2003, 05:53 AM

Good idea. Teach your members how to do chargebacks...

05-22-2003, 10:52 PM	#120
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	This sucks for anyone who used WSB. I remember the sypro failure, it was bad but nothing like the DMR fuck up, man alot of my friends got hurt the day they closed shop. I would recommend to pull up your boot straps, contact CCBill, Epoch, Jettis, etc. I bet wsb will never send 1 cent out to anyone... Sucks.... Were in a high risk biz, things like this happen, I know nobody wants to hear that, but..... __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

05-23-2003, 01:33 AM	#131
SGS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mallorca - Nottingham Posts: 5,176	Sorry to hear the bad news for you guys and news like this sends shivers down all of our spines... __________________ See sig...

05-23-2003, 02:11 AM	#138
OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	IT IS GETTING TIRING TO SAY THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN, BUT HERE IT IS AGAIN: Take control yourself and use multiple processor with a cascading solution and this will not happen to you!!! MPA2 use the best processors in this industry. Both ISPS's and gateways for those using their own merchant account. With a click of a button you can disable a processor if something like DMR (now that was a good one back in the days) and WSB happens. So start being smart and invest in your own future!!! PS. Mansion Productions will pay all the VISA reg. fees for new MPA2 clients.. __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within! Last edited by OY; 05-23-2003 at 02:14 AM..

05-23-2003, 02:24 AM	#140
OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	Calvinguy - Not really, I have said it over and over and over again... http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=114166 __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

05-23-2003, 03:02 AM	#142
NoCarrier We need more free porn Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 16,356	Funny how some people still believe they are going to get paid even after this announcement. HELLLLO? (Slap in the face) It's fucking over. Websitebilling = gone. Some people are drinking margaritas on a beach with your money. Get over it. It's fucking over. The End. Geez. I can't believe you guys actually believed in that company. Do a search on GFY about "websitebilling". Print all the threads and read them all over again... Maybe you will understand how ignorant and stupid some people were and how propaganda really works. __________________

05-22-2003, 09:12 PM	#101
foe Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: CT Posts: 5,246	my gone i wil go kill myself now

05-22-2003, 09:16 PM	#103
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	note to the wise, now may be a good time to start exploring ways to process for yourself somehow =)

05-22-2003, 09:19 PM	#106
WarChild Let slip the dogs of war. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Posts: 17,263	Yeah .. the thing is they couldn't have figured out they were going out of business, 5 minutes before they did. If we assume that's true, and we know that they did in fact keep promising payouts would come, and everything was fine. I know this is true, because they did it to me. Doesn't this consitute fraud under US law? And if so, wouldn't any directors of WSB be liable for that? Corporation or no corpation, you can't commit fraud. Maybe we should just call the FBI. Daymon

05-22-2003, 10:48 PM	#119
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	That is terrible news. And it's only going to get worse.

05-22-2003, 11:32 PM	#122
jxt-never Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: any where Posts: 102	Hello Jeff , Yes i know you are the best(?) one in the industry (it seems like that ). But why CCbill doesnt works with Turkish webmasters? Do you think all the Turkish people , especially webmasters are BANDIT ??? Do you know all the ROBBERS where come from? Read the answer: I lost alot of money about $3000 , at first (2 years ago) Lancelot(USA) after oxbill (europa based)and now websitebilling (USA&UK)! I m sure %99 of them are HONEST but think again to work with webmasters from USA and Europa.(?) Turkiye is an europian country and much more better then most of europian countries.! Now i m in contact with ibill for my sites (i trust them for now), and i want to add another one. Because i learned only one think in this industry there is no one HONEST cc proccesor company. Most of them are legal PARASITE..! May be CCbill is not but I dont have any luck to learn it. Because i m a Turkish webmaster. I m proud to be a TURK! Thanks for your time to read and best wishes for you. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Cavinguy, CCBill EU has been in full compliance with Visa & Mastercard from the very beginning. CCBill is currently in good standing and plans to continue processing for our European clients. If we can be of any help please do not hesitate to contact our sales department at [email protected] or contact me. Jeff N. Sales Director Jeff@CCBill 888 906 0666 ex 153

05-22-2003, 11:32 PM	#123
Madball Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 748	Does anybody know which EU aquiring bank WSB was using?

05-22-2003, 11:49 PM	#124
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	Anyone who hasn't already should get a Netbilling and CCbill account and stop fucking around with the unknown's or those who might be shaky!

05-23-2003, 12:36 AM	#126
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Oh for fucks sake, you people drive me nuts. I like the guys at WSB personally, but you know what? From what I understood last fall, they, like some others that I surely don't even need to mention, chose the course of NOT DOING WHAT THE FUCK THEY WERE TOLD TO DO BY VISA. But ohhhhhh,myyyy, all the fucking boohooing over $750 to register sites properly and be in compliance and how bad the Big Three or whatever you want to call them were for charging such a thing and registering people properly and staying in compliance with Visa... I'm in complete and utter disbelief that it surprises anyone that a third party biller that was not in compliance with Visa to start with is now out of business. That's what happens when Visa US is now in charge of compliance for Visa International too. All the people that thought they were going to get away with something are starting to figure out that shit ain't gonna fly and they will be put in a position where they have to do things for customers in order to try and stay ahead of the game that only put them even further into trouble in the end. You want to be smart? Get with a compliant processor. That is the ONLY thing that is wise at the moment. There is a reason that big sites don't process on their own merchant accounts any more, they don't like the risk level against their own credit. And thats the end of that rant.

05-23-2003, 01:02 AM	#129
bignosejimmy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: B.C, Canada Posts: 136	Anyone remember DMR?

05-23-2003, 03:30 AM	#144
RedShoe 赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111 Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Valley Posts: 14,831	MPA2 is one bad ass set up! __________________ SPECIALTY COSTUMES • PROPS • FX Superheroes • Monsters • Robots PM for details For any manufacturing needs. Adult or otherwise. aka BonsHigh on Insta Bonsai weed plants

05-23-2003, 03:49 AM	#145
Number1Thumb Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,135	The chant gets louder in my ear everyday CCBILL-CCBILL-CCBILL

05-23-2003, 05:30 AM	#147
cotsios Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,371	FUCK WBST We are down because of them and now we are looking for a new processor again __________________ SIGNATURE FOR SALE - SEND Icq 149389211

05-23-2003, 05:51 AM	#149
Master_Yoba Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dagobah Posts: 1,273	bad day They owe us a lot of money. Yes, we switched around 1.5 months ago but we still have rebills with them. It's actually good that wsb was just backup processor for us. CCBill rules We have a dump of all wsb members' emails and we're going to offer them to initiate charge back processes. I know that we will not get our money but members can get it from that fucking bank and fucking VISA/MC. It will be porn for free action __________________ WATCH MORE PORN

05-23-2003, 05:53 AM	#150
Madball Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 748	Good idea. Teach your members how to do chargebacks...