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  • Paolo
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2002
    • 491
    #1

    Websitebilling Out of Business

    We were just told that websitebilling is out ouf business.
    http://www.websitebilling.co.uk/

    If any affiliates out there have links please replace them with the new triplexcash links right ways.

    CCbill referers are still ok.
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    • Machete_
      WINNING!
      • Oct 2002
      • 14579
      #2


      so all the stories they told us was really lies
      - glad I only use CCbill
      Last edited by Machete_; 05-22-2003, 03:13 PM.

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        • EscortBiz
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            • [Labret]
              Registered User
              • May 2001
              • 10945
              #4
              that sucks. never good to see a processor go under.

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                • modF
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 1888
                  #5
                  Doot.

                  Now there is some shit.

                  I do things
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                    • greentea
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2002
                      • 6580
                      #6
                      Dear Valued Clients:

                      We regret to inform you that WebsiteBilling.com Ltd (WebsiteBilling.co.uk), despite our very best efforts, will have no choice but to cease operations on Friday, May 23, 2003. We were recently informed by our European Acquiring Bank (one of the largest banks in Europe and one of the last that was willing to work with Aggregators and "IPSP's") that the Aggregators and IPSP's they work with are being closed due to the pressure and administrative requirements passed down by Visa/MC. By losing this merchant relationship, we have no practical way to maintain our current client database.

                      In the past few months, we have unfortunately dealt with arbitrary fines imposed by card associations, foreign banks and agents taking weeks worth of deposits, and general harassment as the associations have taken very clear aim at the IPSP business model. (see Paycom's current lawsuit as well as WebsiteBilling.com, Inc's. lawsuit from 2001). We have operated with the best of intentions in trying to fighting through these issues and regaining strength, but there is unfortunately nowhere else to turn when our current and primary bank chose to exit the business.

                      We are very proud of the service that we have offered and are grateful to have had the opportunity to work with many terrific individuals. We are very hopeful that the lawsuit mentioned above will bring meaningful change in the way that card associations deal with merchants in our space, but it appears that in the meantime, they have claimed another casualty.

                      We wish you the very best of luck and may be in touch if further information becomes available.

                      Sincerely,

                      Evin Daly
                      Managing Director
                      WebsiteBilling.com Ltd.
                      London
                      blunts

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                        • Ludedude
                          Suck it!
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 4432
                          #7
                          I see their banner is still flying high on top of the board though.

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                            • greentea
                              Confirmed User
                              • Mar 2002
                              • 6580
                              #8
                              I feel bad for all the affiliates that are owed out rageous amounts of money
                              blunts

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                                • Calvinguy
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 1752
                                  #9
                                  It seems that both Ibill and Websitebilling have problems with their european banks. How long will CCbill EU last?

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                                    • Jay_StandAhead
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2002
                                      • 3103
                                      #10
                                      So they won't pay what they owe to people?

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                                        • boneprone
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                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 34415
                                          #11
                                          They seem to be still paying me.

                                          Thats pretty classy!

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                                            • Machete_
                                              WINNING!
                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 14579
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by boneprone
                                              They seem to be still paying me.

                                              Thats pretty classy!
                                              did you get the full amount or 30% like I did?

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                                                • Giorgio_Xo
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                  • 4263
                                                  #13
                                                  Eeks. Through Rectal Rooter I'm owed around $250.

                                                  I feel sorry for those that are owed even more.
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                                                    • nevermind
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                      • 276
                                                      #14
                                                      Where's the link about their 2001 lawsuit?

                                                      I'd like to know what happened with that.

                                                      Apparently not successful I guess.
                                                      Last edited by nevermind; 05-22-2003, 03:21 PM.

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                                                        • stocktrader23
                                                          Let's do some business.
                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                          • 18781
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
                                                          Eeks. Through Rectal Rooter I'm owed around $250.

                                                          I feel sorry for those that are owed even more.
                                                          Be happy that's all you're owed.


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                                                            • Jon
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jun 2002
                                                              • 2578
                                                              #16
                                                              Kerplunk!
                                                              Anotherone bites the dust.

                                                              But yeah, it does suck, I was always a fan of them. I'll bet the other processors are taking their employees out for a celebration of one less fish in the sea.
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                                                                • European Lee
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                  • 7133
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Not to bash them or anything but...

                                                                  If they had any business sense they would put a link to another processor on their site under or above that long release and make some additional $$$ long term through recurring sales

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                                                                    • Theo
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                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                      • 34515
                                                                      #18
                                                                      shit!

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                                                                        • Machete_
                                                                          WINNING!
                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                          • 14579
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                          Not to bash them or anything but...

                                                                          If they had any business sense they would put a link to another processor on their site under or above that long release and make some additional $$$ long term through recurring sales

                                                                          Regards,

                                                                          Lee
                                                                          would you click that link - and make money to the people that just screwed you?

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                                                                            • greentea
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                              • 6580
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Paolo
                                                                              We were just told that websitebilling is out ouf business.
                                                                              http://www.websitebilling.co.uk/

                                                                              If any affiliates out there have links please replace them with the new triplexcash links right ways.

                                                                              CCbill referers are still ok.

                                                                              I think you guys should the take the initiative and pay all CFF webmasters who are owed money from websitebilling out of your pocket.

                                                                              That would really show some class, i don't have any problems with CFF, i just know there a lot of people burned through websitebilling.
                                                                              blunts

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                                                                                • woodman
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                  • 433
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  this is like the first rumble of thunder before a really bad storm.

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                                                                                    • stocktrader23
                                                                                      Let's do some business.
                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                      • 18781
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by greentea



                                                                                      I think you guys should the take the initiative and pay all CFF webmasters who are owed money from websitebilling out of your pocket.

                                                                                      That would really show some class, i don't have any problems with CFF, i just know there a lot of people burned through websitebilling.
                                                                                      CFF was burned worse than anyone being that they forfeited their WSB funds for their affiliates. Regardless of what WSB did CFF made the effort and got double fucked in return. Class act in my book.


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                                                                                        • GrimShawn
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                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                          • 8120
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          That's some crazy shit!

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                                                                                            • Jay_StandAhead
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                                              • 3103
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Can't access the stats anymore...

                                                                                              Guess I should kiss that 5 grand good bye

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                                                                                                • angelsofporn
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                                                  • 3218
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  those fucking shit eating pricks told me just a few weeks ago that i would get what they owed me no problem...3k...scumbags

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                                                                                                    • greentea
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                                                                      • 6580
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by stocktrader23


                                                                                                      CFF was burned worse than anyone being that they forfeited their WSB funds for their affiliates. Regardless of what WSB did CFF made the effort and got double fucked in return. Class act in my book.

                                                                                                      If thats true then CFF is a real class act!

                                                                                                      i no longer promote them, so i have not been in the mix to how they handled that.
                                                                                                      Last edited by greentea; 05-22-2003, 03:29 PM.
                                                                                                      blunts

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                                                                                                        • stocktrader23
                                                                                                          Let's do some business.
                                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                                          • 18781
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by greentea



                                                                                                          If thats true then CFF is a real class act!

                                                                                                          i no longer promote them, so i have not been the mix to how they handled that.
                                                                                                          Yea, they told WSB not to pay them and forward anything they were going to send to their affiliates. I think WSB shafted the affiliates anyway.


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                                                                                                            • aflex
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                                              • 3127
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              assed out of about 200 bux too.. sucks

                                                                                                              seems like most of the bigger guys got paid..

                                                                                                              been with CFF since january, using WSB, recieved 1 payment..
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                                                                                                                • angelsofporn
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                  • 3218
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  and where did the money come from to pay for all the ad spots i see around on different websites? what the hell....if i come to florida can i grab some computers or office equipment to compensate..?

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                                                                                                                    • KRL
                                                                                                                      Entrepreneur
                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                      • 31429
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Put your lifevests on now guys. Seriously, I heard some more shit through the grapevine today about a processor that did not sound good at all.

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                                                                                                                        • rooster
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                                                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                          • 2384
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          i predicted this like a month ago
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                                                                                                                            • GTS Mark
                                                                                                                              Vrume Mark
                                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                              • 20912
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              That fucking sucks.

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                                                                                                                                • Calvinguy
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 1752
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by rooster
                                                                                                                                  i predicted this like a month ago
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                                                                                                                                    • harvey
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                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 9266
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by rooster
                                                                                                                                      i predicted this like a month ago
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                                                                                                                                        • Sin_Vraal
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 465
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          I Host CFF, and I know for a fact that Kevin and Paolo havent been paid in the last 4 months, since they've been redirecting all profits to keeping the webmasters paid. I'm sure everyone is going to be taken care and all seen that after you switch over to the new system, payments WILL be sent along properly.
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                                                                                                                                            • woodman
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 433
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by rooster
                                                                                                                                              i predicted this like a month ago
                                                                                                                                              You mean because they were having trouble paying people, you took that and predicted they may go out of business?

                                                                                                                                              fucking brilliant

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                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 60840
                                                                                                                                                  #37
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                                                                                                                                                    • nevermind
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                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 276
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                                                      Put your lifevests on now guys. Seriously, I heard some more shit through the grapevine today about a processor that did not sound good at all.
                                                                                                                                                      Which one?

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                                                                                                                                                        • XxXotic
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                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 8500
                                                                                                                                                          #39
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                                                                                                                                                            • nocostporn
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                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 5228
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by woodman
                                                                                                                                                              this is like the first rumble of thunder before a really bad storm.

                                                                                                                                                              I agree,happen to them..can happen to anybody
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                                                                                                                                                                • SexySarah
                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 1076
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  cash only

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Thrawn$
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 4596
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      I supose i will not recieve my 32$
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                                                                                                                                                                        • tony299
                                                                                                                                                                          lurker
                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 57021
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Your processor goes out of business, what happens (besides the obvious) Is your gateway still up? Do your members still have access ? Do you still have access to your stats and members email lists so you can inform them of what happened? What can you do to protect yourself if that happens?

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Jay_StandAhead
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                              • 3103
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Thrawn$
                                                                                                                                                                              I supose i will not recieve my 32$
                                                                                                                                                                              What a shame

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Hooper
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 2210
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  I dont think this is a sign of the industry.

                                                                                                                                                                                  WSB was a shitty company with shitty service from day one.

                                                                                                                                                                                  This is just survival of the fittest.
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Backov
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 1600
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Expect others to follow. The shakeout is coming.
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Hooper
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 2210
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          they still seem to be happily accepting transactions however.

                                                                                                                                                                                          https://secure1.websitebilling.com/b...reignID=999999
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Shoplifter
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 5847
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Just wait...Some other IPSP's that use the same bank are in trouble as well.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Ray@TastyDollars
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 6797
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Well well well, this keeps getting better.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I just spent a nice amount of cash, had my lawyer send them a letter. He mailed it yesturday, gues its gonna be a "return to sender" letter, lol.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Im confident Triple X will do their best in keeping their webmasters happy.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jeffne
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 141
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Calvinguy
                                                                                                                                                                                                      It seems that both Ibill and Websitebilling have problems with their european banks. How long will CCbill EU last?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Cavinguy,

                                                                                                                                                                                                      CCBill EU has been in full compliance with Visa & Mastercard from the very beginning. CCBill is currently in good standing and plans to continue processing for our European clients.

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