Andrew Tate BOMBSHELL As Accusers Now Claim It's All A LIE! - GoFuckYourself.com

jscott · 01-10-2023, 11:36 PM

Another camgirl & live-in friend speaks up

asshole or not, we all know this arrest is all over power, control & theater.

mopek1 · 01-11-2023, 05:28 AM

This all sucks.

The media, authorities and a small group of women are making it difficult for any woman who has a REAL case of abuse or rape etc., because we'll be less likely to believe her. In high profile cases I mean.

This isn't a game.

sarettah · 01-11-2023, 07:40 AM

think i'll just leave this right here

https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromos...leaked_to_the/

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TRANSCRIPT 1: Andrew Tate manipulates one of the victims into flying to Romania by promising marriage, then discusses said victim as a commodity to be used for making money.

Source: https://spynews.ro/monden/showbiz-in...na-297133.html

TRANSCRIPT 2: Supports the prosecutions case that Andrew Tate is the leader of the organised criminal group and there is a hierarchy with Andrew Tate at the top

Source: https://www.gandul.ro/actualitate/cu...lusiv-19903663

TRANSCRIPT 3: Andrew Tate admits to victim that he "has to hide" what he is really doing and that he does money laundering, exploiting women by using them to do illegal activities for him such as moving money and illegal items/documents, he also claims "he would never do that" to the victim, presumably another form of manipulation to make the victim feel "special" and that he "cares" about her:

Source: https://www.digi24.ro/stiri/actualit...le-lor-2207105

TRANSCRIPT 4: Tate's "angels", the 2 women arrested along with Tate, make violent threats including death threats to one of the victims saying that if she does not post pornographic content to Onlyfans/Tiktok she will be "thrown off the balcony" by Andrew Tate.

Source: https://www.romaniatv.net/noi-stenog...t_7137791.html

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SBJ · 01-11-2023, 07:48 AM

This guy is a POS! This old video tells you all you need to know about him.

jscott · 01-11-2023, 08:01 AM

Dude's an arrogant asshole, no doubt about that.

Question is, can any of the evidence hold up? Some faked? Many who know him personally or ex's seem to believe this is all bullshit, and that's very believable with all the illegitimate attacks he's had from media (especially social media), ex employees, & those out there who feel freedom of speech is a threat. Silencing those with ideologies different from their own (look what they're doing with JBPeterson right now)

mopek1 · 01-11-2023, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

think i'll just leave this right here

Seriously? Two X chromosomes subreddit perspective? An internet woman's group on Tate. No bias at all I'm sure.

Look, I can't say for sure if he's guilty or not but I'm starting to strongly take Tate's side. Why? Because for years now he's had so many accusations against him, so many people try to take him down and when I looked into it most of it was made up or fake.

So now I roll my eyes when more accusations are put up against him.

To everyone in internet-land, "Stop fucking crying wolf. It will make future, legit accusations that much harder to believe."

BTW, I'm not a fan of his, nor am I against him. He makes these videos for shock value to build his brand. Nothing special about that. Some truths said in a way to make people mad, lots of aggrandizement.

King Mark · 01-11-2023, 08:32 AM

Every side is bias. One side full of shit tho.

Tate is only a super power hero to incels. There's no power, control and theater for taking down a guy majority of the world doesn't know exist. Just justice IF he's guilty.

trevesty · 01-11-2023, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by King Mark

Every side is bias. One side full of shit tho.

Tate is only a super power hero to incels. There's no power, control and theater for taking down a guy majority of the world doesn't know exist. Just justice IF he's guilty.

Yup.

Tate's only cool or special to dorky punks who wouldn't know pussy if it sat on their face.

jscott · 01-12-2023, 01:41 AM

Some real weaklings in this thread that feel threatened by Tate and/or by free speech.

Fuck him if he's guilty, but if not, he should be free no matter how much of an asshole he appears to be.

mopek1 · 01-12-2023, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jscott

Fuck him if he's guilty, but if not, he should be free no matter how much of an asshole he appears to be.

I agree.

I don't care if he goes to jail because maybe down the line he's legitimately found guilty. I'm not a fan of his.

I am a fan of people being able to be assholes if they want to be. I don't think he's an asshole but do think he's like many on social media, being provocative and coming off as crass for views.

King Mark · 01-12-2023, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

I am a fan of people being able to be assholes if they want to be.

Same. But there's consequences to be an asshole. Gotta accept it. I know I'm an asshole, and I take everything that comes with it.

But I also don't commit any crimes, so... without them demons in my closet and nothing to hide it's a lot easier to be an asshole without worrying about pizza boxes and things of that nature.

DVTimes · 01-12-2023, 10:02 AM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...er-abused.html

Two women who claim to be named among the accusers of Andrew Tate say they are friends with him and never filed a complaint with police.

The influencers, named only as Beatrice and Jasmina, who have tattoos saying Tate Girl on their body, say they see the millionaire 'Webcam King' as part of their 'family'.

Prosecutors said they have identified six victims in the human trafficking case who were subjected to 'acts of physical violence and mental coercion' and were sexually exploited by the group comprising Tate, his brother Tristan and two Romanian women, they say.

One of the six alleged victims has also accused one of the brothers of rape.

DVTimes · 01-12-2023, 10:02 AM

V_RocKs · 01-12-2023, 10:22 AM

Live by social media, die by social media

mopek1 · 01-12-2023, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by King Mark

But there's consequences to be an asshole. Gotta accept it.

Yeah for sure. People will criticize you, send you hate and call you all sorts of names if you are an asshole and that's fine.

But trying to cancel someone, to get them fired, to hurt them financially or to try to get them arrested or charged is criminal in itself.

King Mark · 01-12-2023, 10:42 PM

Roleplay?

SBJ · 01-12-2023, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by King Mark

Roleplay?

The more you disliked it the more it turned me on..

I love the song the stripper dance is always hotter when the girl is crying but this is a guy saying the more she disliked being raped the more he enjoyed it.. Fuck this guy!!

If you can still stick up for this guy you are a POS!

jscott · 01-12-2023, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SBJ

If you can still stick up for this guy you are a POS!

Hopefully you're not confusing people defending constitutional rights with them "sticking up for" Andrew Tate.

jscott · 01-13-2023, 03:31 AM

If you want to form your own opinion on Tate, whether you love or hate him, this video is worth checking out, it covers the most topics I've seen so far:

jscott · 01-14-2023, 11:55 PM

A little more context to those "I love to rape you" messages:

I wonder why Vice chose to exclude the other messages.

gtsix · 01-15-2023, 12:55 AM

everything is different out of context, all that shit can be fabricated too... btw I had not one girlfriends who literally asked me to rape them for fun, no permanent injuries and shit for sure, it's just that submissive things turned them on... all this was mostly before the meetoo aberration... damn explaining this shit on a porn forum like I'd have to feel bad about it or something

"fucking clown world"

SBJ · 01-15-2023, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jscott

A little more context to those "I love to rape you" messages:

I wonder why Vice chose to exclude the other messages.

those are text msgs that are easily faked but the video above was audio voice messages left that can't be faked as easily.

I mean I can buy a burner phone and text it as if she was my GF and respond back and forth but does that make it real?

This guy reminds me of Marilyn Manson who manipulated girls into BDSM relationships they didn't really want to be a part of.

DWB · 02-02-2023, 09:48 AM

I've met Andrew and Tristan both a few times. We have a mutual friend in the cam business.

In person, both of them have been very kind to me and direct. We talk about the industry, cam studios, traveling, etc. There were a few comments about women that took me off guard, but nothing compared to what I've seen in his videos. Nothing even remotely close to that. Also nothing that made me believe they forced women to work. More on this later.

Making all of those videos was the dumbest possible thing they could have ever done, especially Andrew. Not the motivational ones, those are fine, but the ones against women or bragging about being with underage girls, taking their virginity, etc. Holy fuck that was vile and stupid. I honestly can't believe he would say such terrible things on video and none of it was necessary. They could have stuck with basic motivation videos and been fine.

Do I believe they are guilty?
Yes, I do. Here's why. One thing I noticed about them in person, as nice as they were to me, is that are operating from a different place mentally. They look at things through a different lens. The impression I got from them is that the law doesn't apply to them. Some things they said made it sound like they were above law enforcement in every country simply because they are rich and "know people." They lean HEAVILY on their network. That being said, I believe they didn't necessarily know they were breaking some laws, but absolutely broke them. There are countless people in prison for breaking laws they didn't know they were breaking.

Human trafficking? Yea. Guilty. Andrew's method if making a woman fall in love with him, move to Romania, and then get her to work on cam, is by definition the lover boy method of human trafficking. Andrew himself is on video bragging about how he did exactly this more than once. Did he know it was illegal? Probably not. But he still did it.

Trafficking doesn't have to mean you kidnapped someone. The method he has admitted to and the police mentioned is the lover boy method. He's guilty as fuck on this, even if he didn't realize it at the time.

What about money laundering? If he gets nailed on anything, it will be this. They did talk about how they handled money, crypto, etc. They are big on crypto. Well, at least they were when we met. Then add casinos to the mix. He bragged to us how he'll never pay taxes to the West and it was impossible to catch him. I remember this vividly because I knew he was wrong. I didn't debate it with him, I just let him talk. He was interesting to listen to so that's what I did most of the time.

Organized crime? Given his self admitted connections to the Romania mafia and how they operated schemes out of his War Room, I'm going to go with guilty here as well. Not in an Al Capone kind of way, but in a sloppy guy with bad advice who didn't understand what he was setting up kind of way.

Rape? Can't say. That's difficult to prove either way. I do know he doesn't need to do that to get a woman, but it's about power and control for him, so who knows. My guess is this won't stick.

This hasn't been said yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if they toss tax evasion into the mix. That might happen there, or in one of his home countries. Probably a slam dunk that will go hand and hand with money laundering.

The women who are claiming they are not victims are a red herring. There are still multiple women who claim otherwise but all everyone is talking about are the couple who say they are not. It also moves the conversation away from money laundering and organized crime. The Tate's have said many times on camera that they are master manipulators. Andrew loves to play chess and looks at life like a giant chess board. Controlling the narrative is what he likes to do, and what he's doing now. His War Room bros are involved in a lot of this (social media narrative control) from what I understand.

These are very serious crimes and if found guilty, they are going to prison for quite some time. They could also plead guilty instead of going to trial for a reduced prison vacation. I'd bet this is what they will do because there won't be any shortage of evidence once they go to trial. A few years is better than 20. The prosecutor will want a conviction either way and will probably get one.

I think they are two guys who came from nothing and got caught up in their own fame and circumstance and they let it erode their morals and judgement. Money and fame can do that to people. As some of you know, money will only amplify what and who you really are.

Justice will run its course here. The entire world is watching this case so it's unlikely Romania will pull any nonsense. From everything I've looked at, they are following the letter of their law so far, even with the detainment. What's happening seems unjust to many people, but that's how they do things there. They can be held for 180 days maximum while the investigation finishes. Then they will file official charges and set a trial date. The judges are 75% women, which isn't good for them. There is no jury. The prosecutor only has to provide enough evidence to convince the judges of their guilt. Andrew chose Romania for it's high level of corruption but never thought in a million years it would backfire on him. This goes back to what I said about believing they were above the law. They really believe that shit.

They have now hired a hot shot US attorney. Surprisingly, a female. From what I understand, she can not speak in court in Romania and can only meet with them, not practice. This makes me wonder if the USA is cooking up charges as well. Very possible all things considered. There are some laws that will follow US citizens beyond the borders of the USA.

Those of you who know me know that I've been around a bit, made porn in many sketchy countries, been arrested, bribed foreign police, and so on. I've been there and done that abroad when it comes to the adult business. I have a pretty good insight on how some of this works. One thing I've learned through all of that, is that people who get this much stacked against them are in for a VERY rough ride. The time to bribe their way out of this is long gone. I also know that none of these nations are going to take any pity whatsoever on someone found guilty of human trafficking. Neither will his cell mates in prison. There are some things you just don't do, and that's one of them, even if it's by mistake.

TL;DR - I've met them. Know a little about their operations. I believe they are in for a world of hurt, even if some of their crimes were committed accidentally.

Cheers!

CaptainHowdy · 02-02-2023, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Cheers!

I'm stunned . . .

NoWhErE · 02-02-2023, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

I don't think he's an asshole

.... have you ever watched any of his content? I'm afraid to ask what you'd consider being an asshole if this dude doesn't qualify.

jscott · 02-02-2023, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE

.... have you ever watched any of his content? I'm afraid to ask what you'd consider being an asshole if this dude doesn't qualify.

Some people are tight with Tate's and probably have more insight on how they treat people, for example:

&

@DWB thanks for sharing your experiences with them and your opinion on them.

I'm sure everyone agrees they were foolish for saying many things they said in interviews and videos. But also remember, nothing they said has broke any laws. And if somebody believes they broke any laws there is a need of evidence, and seems like there is none.

One more thing, you mentioned: "bragging about being with underage girls", where have they done this, article, video, link please?

J. Falcon · 02-02-2023, 11:41 AM

OP's idol is going to prison LOL

mopek1 · 02-02-2023, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

, is by definition the lover boy method of human trafficking.

I didn't know that was a thing. Good thing they send heavily armed soldiers to your door when you do that.

MaDalton · 02-02-2023, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

I've met Andrew and Tristan both a few times. We have a mutual friend in the cam business.

In person, both of them have been very kind to me and direct. We talk about the industry, cam studios, traveling, etc. There were a few comments about women that took me off guard, but nothing compared to what I've seen in his videos. Nothing even remotely close to that. Also nothing that made me believe they forced women to work. More on this later.

Making all of those videos was the dumbest possible thing they could have ever done, especially Andrew. Not the motivational ones, those are fine, but the ones against women or bragging about being with underage girls, taking their virginity, etc. Holy fuck that was vile and stupid. I honestly can't believe he would say such terrible things on video and none of it was necessary. They could have stuck with basic motivation videos and been fine.

Do I believe they are guilty?
Yes, I do. Here's why. One thing I noticed about them in person, as nice as they were to me, is that are operating from a different place mentally. They look at things through a different lens. The impression I got from them is that the law doesn't apply to them. Some things they said made it sound like they were above law enforcement in every country simply because they are rich and "know people." They lean HEAVILY on their network. That being said, I believe they didn't necessarily know they were breaking some laws, but absolutely broke them. There are countless people in prison for breaking laws they didn't know they were breaking.

Human trafficking? Yea. Guilty. Andrew's method if making a woman fall in love with him, move to Romania, and then get her to work on cam, is by definition the lover boy method of human trafficking. Andrew himself is on video bragging about how he did exactly this more than once. Did he know it was illegal? Probably not. But he still did it.

Trafficking doesn't have to mean you kidnapped someone. The method he has admitted to and the police mentioned is the lover boy method. He's guilty as fuck on this, even if he didn't realize it at the time.

What about money laundering? If he gets nailed on anything, it will be this. They did talk about how they handled money, crypto, etc. They are big on crypto. Well, at least they were when we met. Then add casinos to the mix. He bragged to us how he'll never pay taxes to the West and it was impossible to catch him. I remember this vividly because I knew he was wrong. I didn't debate it with him, I just let him talk. He was interesting to listen to so that's what I did most of the time.

Organized crime? Given his self admitted connections to the Romania mafia and how they operated schemes out of his War Room, I'm going to go with guilty here as well. Not in an Al Capone kind of way, but in a sloppy guy with bad advice who didn't understand what he was setting up kind of way.

Rape? Can't say. That's difficult to prove either way. I do know he doesn't need to do that to get a woman, but it's about power and control for him, so who knows. My guess is this won't stick.

This hasn't been said yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if they toss tax evasion into the mix. That might happen there, or in one of his home countries. Probably a slam dunk that will go hand and hand with money laundering.

The women who are claiming they are not victims are a red herring. There are still multiple women who claim otherwise but all everyone is talking about are the couple who say they are not. It also moves the conversation away from money laundering and organized crime. The Tate's have said many times on camera that they are master manipulators. Andrew loves to play chess and looks at life like a giant chess board. Controlling the narrative is what he likes to do, and what he's doing now. His War Room bros are involved in a lot of this (social media narrative control) from what I understand.

These are very serious crimes and if found guilty, they are going to prison for quite some time. They could also plead guilty instead of going to trial for a reduced prison vacation. I'd bet this is what they will do because there won't be any shortage of evidence once they go to trial. A few years is better than 20. The prosecutor will want a conviction either way and will probably get one.

I think they are two guys who came from nothing and got caught up in their own fame and circumstance and they let it erode their morals and judgement. Money and fame can do that to people. As some of you know, money will only amplify what and who you really are.

Justice will run its course here. The entire world is watching this case so it's unlikely Romania will pull any nonsense. From everything I've looked at, they are following the letter of their law so far, even with the detainment. What's happening seems unjust to many people, but that's how they do things there. They can be held for 180 days maximum while the investigation finishes. Then they will file official charges and set a trial date. The judges are 75% women, which isn't good for them. There is no jury. The prosecutor only has to provide enough evidence to convince the judges of their guilt. Andrew chose Romania for it's high level of corruption but never thought in a million years it would backfire on him. This goes back to what I said about believing they were above the law. They really believe that shit.

They have now hired a hot shot US attorney. Surprisingly, a female. From what I understand, she can not speak in court in Romania and can only meet with them, not practice. This makes me wonder if the USA is cooking up charges as well. Very possible all things considered. There are some laws that will follow US citizens beyond the borders of the USA.

Those of you who know me know that I've been around a bit, made porn in many sketchy countries, been arrested, bribed foreign police, and so on. I've been there and done that abroad when it comes to the adult business. I have a pretty good insight on how some of this works. One thing I've learned through all of that, is that people who get this much stacked against them are in for a VERY rough ride. The time to bribe their way out of this is long gone. I also know that none of these nations are going to take any pity whatsoever on someone found guilty of human trafficking. Neither will his cell mates in prison. There are some things you just don't do, and that's one of them, even if it's by mistake.

TL;DR - I've met them. Know a little about their operations. I believe they are in for a world of hurt, even if some of their crimes were committed accidentally.

Cheers!

Now here is someone who I believe.

ANAL PASTE · 02-02-2023, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

I've met Andrew and Tristan both a few times. We have a mutual friend in the cam business.

In person, both of them have been very kind to me and direct. We talk about the industry, cam studios, traveling, etc. There were a few comments about women that took me off guard, but nothing compared to what I've seen in his videos. Nothing even remotely close to that. Also nothing that made me believe they forced women to work. More on this later.

Making all of those videos was the dumbest possible thing they could have ever done, especially Andrew. Not the motivational ones, those are fine, but the ones against women or bragging about being with underage girls, taking their virginity, etc. Holy fuck that was vile and stupid. I honestly can't believe he would say such terrible things on video and none of it was necessary. They could have stuck with basic motivation videos and been fine.

Do I believe they are guilty?
Yes, I do. Here's why. One thing I noticed about them in person, as nice as they were to me, is that are operating from a different place mentally. They look at things through a different lens. The impression I got from them is that the law doesn't apply to them. Some things they said made it sound like they were above law enforcement in every country simply because they are rich and "know people." They lean HEAVILY on their network. That being said, I believe they didn't necessarily know they were breaking some laws, but absolutely broke them. There are countless people in prison for breaking laws they didn't know they were breaking.

Human trafficking? Yea. Guilty. Andrew's method if making a woman fall in love with him, move to Romania, and then get her to work on cam, is by definition the lover boy method of human trafficking. Andrew himself is on video bragging about how he did exactly this more than once. Did he know it was illegal? Probably not. But he still did it.

Trafficking doesn't have to mean you kidnapped someone. The method he has admitted to and the police mentioned is the lover boy method. He's guilty as fuck on this, even if he didn't realize it at the time.

What about money laundering? If he gets nailed on anything, it will be this. They did talk about how they handled money, crypto, etc. They are big on crypto. Well, at least they were when we met. Then add casinos to the mix. He bragged to us how he'll never pay taxes to the West and it was impossible to catch him. I remember this vividly because I knew he was wrong. I didn't debate it with him, I just let him talk. He was interesting to listen to so that's what I did most of the time.

Organized crime? Given his self admitted connections to the Romania mafia and how they operated schemes out of his War Room, I'm going to go with guilty here as well. Not in an Al Capone kind of way, but in a sloppy guy with bad advice who didn't understand what he was setting up kind of way.

Rape? Can't say. That's difficult to prove either way. I do know he doesn't need to do that to get a woman, but it's about power and control for him, so who knows. My guess is this won't stick.

This hasn't been said yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if they toss tax evasion into the mix. That might happen there, or in one of his home countries. Probably a slam dunk that will go hand and hand with money laundering.

The women who are claiming they are not victims are a red herring. There are still multiple women who claim otherwise but all everyone is talking about are the couple who say they are not. It also moves the conversation away from money laundering and organized crime. The Tate's have said many times on camera that they are master manipulators. Andrew loves to play chess and looks at life like a giant chess board. Controlling the narrative is what he likes to do, and what he's doing now. His War Room bros are involved in a lot of this (social media narrative control) from what I understand.

These are very serious crimes and if found guilty, they are going to prison for quite some time. They could also plead guilty instead of going to trial for a reduced prison vacation. I'd bet this is what they will do because there won't be any shortage of evidence once they go to trial. A few years is better than 20. The prosecutor will want a conviction either way and will probably get one.

I think they are two guys who came from nothing and got caught up in their own fame and circumstance and they let it erode their morals and judgement. Money and fame can do that to people. As some of you know, money will only amplify what and who you really are.

Justice will run its course here. The entire world is watching this case so it's unlikely Romania will pull any nonsense. From everything I've looked at, they are following the letter of their law so far, even with the detainment. What's happening seems unjust to many people, but that's how they do things there. They can be held for 180 days maximum while the investigation finishes. Then they will file official charges and set a trial date. The judges are 75% women, which isn't good for them. There is no jury. The prosecutor only has to provide enough evidence to convince the judges of their guilt. Andrew chose Romania for it's high level of corruption but never thought in a million years it would backfire on him. This goes back to what I said about believing they were above the law. They really believe that shit.

They have now hired a hot shot US attorney. Surprisingly, a female. From what I understand, she can not speak in court in Romania and can only meet with them, not practice. This makes me wonder if the USA is cooking up charges as well. Very possible all things considered. There are some laws that will follow US citizens beyond the borders of the USA.

Those of you who know me know that I've been around a bit, made porn in many sketchy countries, been arrested, bribed foreign police, and so on. I've been there and done that abroad when it comes to the adult business. I have a pretty good insight on how some of this works. One thing I've learned through all of that, is that people who get this much stacked against them are in for a VERY rough ride. The time to bribe their way out of this is long gone. I also know that none of these nations are going to take any pity whatsoever on someone found guilty of human trafficking. Neither will his cell mates in prison. There are some things you just don't do, and that's one of them, even if it's by mistake.

TL;DR - I've met them. Know a little about their operations. I believe they are in for a world of hurt, even if some of their crimes were committed accidentally.

Cheers!

Given that it's in Romania he is looking at 5 years. Tops. Will be out in 1 or time served.

NoWhErE · 02-02-2023, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jscott

Some people are tight with Tate's and probably have more insight on how they treat people, for example:

How does that even begin to address my comment? Please explain the relevance

jscott · 02-02-2023, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE

How does that even begin to address my comment? Please explain the relevance

Calm your tits, that was meant in response to DWB.

You did mention about him/them being assholes, they probably are, but there needs to be evidence for the crimes they supposedly committed. So many quick to judge them, why not wait for that evidence, because aren't they innocent until proven guilty? Anyone remember when that used to mean something?

DVTimes · 02-03-2023, 04:41 AM

mainstreammix · 02-03-2023, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by King Mark

Every side is bias. One side full of shit tho.

Tate is only a super power hero to incels. There's no power, control and theater for taking down a guy majority of the world doesn't know exist. Just justice IF he's guilty.

You're wrong on this one bro. Andrew Tate hates the incels.

mainstreammix · 02-03-2023, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE

.... have you ever watched any of his content? I'm afraid to ask what you'd consider being an asshole if this dude doesn't qualify.

I did, the long form version.

DWB · 02-03-2023, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

I'm stunned . . .

i miss you

DWB · 02-03-2023, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ANAL PASTE

Given that it's in Romania he is looking at 5 years. Tops. Will be out in 1 or time served.

Maybe.

They could also be setting an example. No idea what they are cooking up.

I've read a few things about Romania being under immense international pressure to clean up trafficking in their country.

DWB · 02-03-2023, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

Now here is someone who I believe.

Hey man! Hope you're well.

DWB · 02-03-2023, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

I didn't know that was a thing. Good thing they send heavily armed soldiers to your door when you do that.

Well, it wasn't just that. It was alleged human trafficking in addition to organized crime and rape. He's also shown weapons in various videos. They were taking precautions.

I've been on the receiving end of that before. A few dozen showed up with machine guns, tackled us onto the floor, etc. When there's a risk, they don't fuck around. In our case, it was a misunderstanding and we were eventually let go. I think I wrote about it here when it happened. Total shit show.

MaDalton · 02-03-2023, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Hey man! Hope you're well.

no complaints here, hope all is good with you too!

DWB · 02-03-2023, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jscott

Some people are tight with Tate's and probably have more insight on how they treat people, for example:

@DWB thanks for sharing your experiences with them and your opinion on them.

I'm sure everyone agrees they were foolish for saying many things they said in interviews and videos. But also remember, nothing they said has broke any laws. And if somebody believes they broke any laws there is a need of evidence, and seems like there is none.

One more thing, you mentioned: "bragging about being with underage girls", where have they done this, article, video, link please?

I could give a lot more insight, but I respect their privacy. I would do the same for you, and would hope they or you would do the same for me.

Also, I should have said in the previous post that I don't want anyone to go to jail for a crime they didn't commit. No one. But if they are found guilty, then they need to pay the piper just as any of us would in the same situation. Those of us who produce porn in other countries or run cam studios in dodgy places all know the risks we're taking. We do our best to reduce that risk through various connections, but sometimes your luck just runs out and they want you out. It's the risk many in our industry take, including those in conservative States in the USA.

In regards to them saying things that have broken the law, you're correct. Saying it alone isn't against the law. But when they can connect those statements to actual crimes, that's where the trouble starts. If you say XYZ and then they find evidence of XYZ, it's your ass.

We do know they had enough evidence to detain them under a pre-trial arrest. That's the first red flag. The second thing that is worrisome, is the judge specifically used one of their videos against them to deny their release (as one of the reasons). There was a video where Andrew was bragging about owning many passports, impossible to stop, etc. Paraphrasing there, but that's the message. That one video made them a flight risk and is partly why they are still in detention instead of on house arrest.

If you're interested, use translation in your browser and dig through the DIICOT website. They are the ones who do the raids and make public releases of their findings. There are several reports on this case. You'll need to dig for all of them, but here's one to get you started, it's the original release for when they were first arrested.

https://diicot.ro/mass-media/3829-co...esa-29-12-2022

The videos about them talking about minors... there are a few. Tristan is actually the one who says it the most, but both of them have talked about 16-17 year olds and virgins.

Both of them say that's the legal age in Romania, but since they are also US citizens, the PROTECT Act applies to them abroad. The federal legal age for Americans overseas is 18 and that law follows all US citizens wherever we go. AFAIK, they have not been charged for this, but the hiring of the US attorney makes me wonder about a lot of possibilities. She can't legally work in Romania, so she has to serve a better purpose than a media mouthpiece. We'll see. I'm only speculating at her involvement.

Here's one video. I've seen a few different ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5F-md2MGJ8

This one doesn't mention age, but it looks really bad given their other statements about underage girls. He sounds like a predator, which is the opposite of what he wants to be looking like right now.
https://youtu.be/0823HiPQbyY?t=64

There are a few more if you dig. However, you're probably noticing many of their "bad" videos are bring removed from the internet quickly. Smart move. I've seen YouTubers and TikTokers on reddit complaining about DMCA take downs on some of their videos recently. Considering they have so many terrible videos out there, it makes sense to scrub as many of them as you can right now so fewer can be held against you.

There's also the daughter of a Romanian politician who claims they tried to lure her and some of her friends on dates through DMs on IG. This is alleged. I'm not making a claim, just sharing. Could be a smear campaign. You can look that story up.

These things don't help their cause, but I don't want to go down that rabbit hole though because it's not relevant to their current situation at this time.

Romania has around 120 more days to wrap up their investigation and can legally hold them during that time. 180 total days is the max they can hold them without charges. At that time, they either let them go and risk getting their balls sued off by the Tates, or file formal charges and set a trial date.

Whatever the case, I hope they get a fair trial.

J. Falcon · 02-03-2023, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Maybe.

They could also be setting an example. No idea what they are cooking up.

I've read a few things about Romania being under immense international pressure to clean up trafficking in their country.

Good, here's hoping they start with this asshole.

CaptainHowdy · 02-03-2023, 04:30 PM

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DWB · 02-04-2023, 05:46 AM

Ouch. Turns out when they raided his home and took all of his devices, they also got his wallet and just seized 300k worth of crypto according to what's breaking in Romania now.

This is why their investigation process is long, there's a lot to unravel in some of these cases. Especially when you're dealing with people who have many sources of income, many alleged victims, and globe trot.

jscott · 02-10-2023, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Ouch. Turns out when they raided his home and took all of his devices, they also got his wallet and just seized 300k worth of crypto according to what's breaking in Romania now.

This is why their investigation process is long, there's a lot to unravel in some of these cases. Especially when you're dealing with people who have many sources of income, many alleged victims, and globe trot.

Horrible. They ain't getting a penny of that back, that's for sure

Btw, they had no victims, until one finally came forth, and she's not really believable, an England chick I believe, anyone heard of this?

Also, this guy breaks down the Tate situation quite well https://twitter.com/ShaykhSulaiman/s...76976365207554

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CaligulaDrusilla · 03-08-2024, 01:50 PM

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I've met Andrew and Tristan both a few times. We have a mutual friend in the cam business.

In person, both of them have been very kind to me and direct. We talk about the industry, cam studios, traveling, etc. There were a few comments about women that took me off guard, but nothing compared to what I've seen in his videos. Nothing even remotely close to that. Also nothing that made me believe they forced women to work. More on this later.

Making all of those videos was the dumbest possible thing they could have ever done, especially Andrew. Not the motivational ones, those are fine, but the ones against women or bragging about being with underage girls, taking their virginity, etc. Holy fuck that was vile and stupid. I honestly can't believe he would say such terrible things on video and none of it was necessary. They could have stuck with basic motivation videos and been fine.

Do I believe they are guilty?
Yes, I do. Here's why. One thing I noticed about them in person, as nice as they were to me, is that are operating from a different place mentally. They look at things through a different lens. The impression I got from them is that the law doesn't apply to them. Some things they said made it sound like they were above law enforcement in every country simply because they are rich and "know people." They lean HEAVILY on their network. That being said, I believe they didn't necessarily know they were breaking some laws, but absolutely broke them. There are countless people in prison for breaking laws they didn't know they were breaking.

Human trafficking? Yea. Guilty. Andrew's method if making a woman fall in love with him, move to Romania, and then get her to work on cam, is by definition the lover boy method of human trafficking. Andrew himself is on video bragging about how he did exactly this more than once. Did he know it was illegal? Probably not. But he still did it.

Trafficking doesn't have to mean you kidnapped someone. The method he has admitted to and the police mentioned is the lover boy method. He's guilty as fuck on this, even if he didn't realize it at the time.

What about money laundering? If he gets nailed on anything, it will be this. They did talk about how they handled money, crypto, etc. They are big on crypto. Well, at least they were when we met. Then add casinos to the mix. He bragged to us how he'll never pay taxes to the West and it was impossible to catch him. I remember this vividly because I knew he was wrong. I didn't debate it with him, I just let him talk. He was interesting to listen to so that's what I did most of the time.

Organized crime? Given his self admitted connections to the Romania mafia and how they operated schemes out of his War Room, I'm going to go with guilty here as well. Not in an Al Capone kind of way, but in a sloppy guy with bad advice who didn't understand what he was setting up kind of way.

Rape? Can't say. That's difficult to prove either way. I do know he doesn't need to do that to get a woman, but it's about power and control for him, so who knows. My guess is this won't stick.

This hasn't been said yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if they toss tax evasion into the mix. That might happen there, or in one of his home countries. Probably a slam dunk that will go hand and hand with money laundering.

The women who are claiming they are not victims are a red herring. There are still multiple women who claim otherwise but all everyone is talking about are the couple who say they are not. It also moves the conversation away from money laundering and organized crime. The Tate's have said many times on camera that they are master manipulators. Andrew loves to play chess and looks at life like a giant chess board. Controlling the narrative is what he likes to do, and what he's doing now. His War Room bros are involved in a lot of this (social media narrative control) from what I understand.

These are very serious crimes and if found guilty, they are going to prison for quite some time. They could also plead guilty instead of going to trial for a reduced prison vacation. I'd bet this is what they will do because there won't be any shortage of evidence once they go to trial. A few years is better than 20. The prosecutor will want a conviction either way and will probably get one.

I think they are two guys who came from nothing and got caught up in their own fame and circumstance and they let it erode their morals and judgement. Money and fame can do that to people. As some of you know, money will only amplify what and who you really are.

Justice will run its course here. The entire world is watching this case so it's unlikely Romania will pull any nonsense. From everything I've looked at, they are following the letter of their law so far, even with the detainment. What's happening seems unjust to many people, but that's how they do things there. They can be held for 180 days maximum while the investigation finishes. Then they will file official charges and set a trial date. The judges are 75% women, which isn't good for them. There is no jury. The prosecutor only has to provide enough evidence to convince the judges of their guilt. Andrew chose Romania for it's high level of corruption but never thought in a million years it would backfire on him. This goes back to what I said about believing they were above the law. They really believe that shit.

They have now hired a hot shot US attorney. Surprisingly, a female. From what I understand, she can not speak in court in Romania and can only meet with them, not practice. This makes me wonder if the USA is cooking up charges as well. Very possible all things considered. There are some laws that will follow US citizens beyond the borders of the USA.

Those of you who know me know that I've been around a bit, made porn in many sketchy countries, been arrested, bribed foreign police, and so on. I've been there and done that abroad when it comes to the adult business. I have a pretty good insight on how some of this works. One thing I've learned through all of that, is that people who get this much stacked against them are in for a VERY rough ride. The time to bribe their way out of this is long gone. I also know that none of these nations are going to take any pity whatsoever on someone found guilty of human trafficking. Neither will his cell mates in prison. There are some things you just don't do, and that's one of them, even if it's by mistake.

TL;DR - I've met them. Know a little about their operations. I believe they are in for a world of hurt, even if some of their crimes were committed accidentally.

Cheers!

How much money did they actually make from the cam business? Did they do anything different to make so much as they've claimed? And also when was this since I've seen conflicting dates regarding when it was setup.

Huggles · 03-08-2024, 02:01 PM

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How much money did they actually make from the cam business? Did they do anything different to make so much as they've claimed? And also when was this since I've seen conflicting dates regarding when it was setup.

The Tate brothers are 100% connected to the feds. They are artificially astroturfed.

AmeliaG · 03-08-2024, 10:22 PM

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The Tate brothers are 100% connected to the feds. They are artificially astroturfed.

What makes you think that? I assumed they were just personally good at astroturf, but it would explain why they are so oddly popular a conversation topic and seem like sort of a cartoon of the type of guys they are supposed to be sometimes and other times seem very cogent and intelligent.

I find Andrew Tate surprisingly not sexy at all, given his alleged management style. But maybe he smells fantastic and it's all real.

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jscott jscizzle Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 23,088	Dude's an arrogant asshole, no doubt about that. Question is, can any of the evidence hold up? Some faked? Many who know him personally or ex's seem to believe this is all bullshit, and that's very believable with all the illegitimate attacks he's had from media (especially social media), ex employees, & those out there who feel freedom of speech is a threat. Silencing those with ideologies different from their own (look what they're doing with JBPeterson right now) __________________ “If you think tough men are dangerous, wait until you see what weak men are capable of.” —Jordan B. Peterson Listen to Pomp tell why is Bitcoin important

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jscott jscizzle Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 23,088	Some real weaklings in this thread that feel threatened by Tate and/or by free speech. Fuck him if he's guilty, but if not, he should be free no matter how much of an asshole he appears to be. __________________ “If you think tough men are dangerous, wait until you see what weak men are capable of.” —Jordan B. Peterson Listen to Pomp tell why is Bitcoin important

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DVTimes Holedex.com Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,533	https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...er-abused.html Two women who claim to be named among the accusers of Andrew Tate say they are friends with him and never filed a complaint with police. The influencers, named only as Beatrice and Jasmina, who have tattoos saying Tate Girl on their body, say they see the millionaire 'Webcam King' as part of their 'family'. Prosecutors said they have identified six victims in the human trafficking case who were subjected to 'acts of physical violence and mental coercion' and were sexually exploited by the group comprising Tate, his brother Tristan and two Romanian women, they say. One of the six alleged victims has also accused one of the brothers of rape. __________________ My old and new pics I have shot

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01-14-2023, 11:55 PM	#21
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02-02-2023, 09:48 AM	#24
DWB Giggity Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: S.E. Asia Posts: 31,779	I've met Andrew and Tristan both a few times. We have a mutual friend in the cam business. In person, both of them have been very kind to me and direct. We talk about the industry, cam studios, traveling, etc. There were a few comments about women that took me off guard, but nothing compared to what I've seen in his videos. Nothing even remotely close to that. Also nothing that made me believe they forced women to work. More on this later. Making all of those videos was the dumbest possible thing they could have ever done, especially Andrew. Not the motivational ones, those are fine, but the ones against women or bragging about being with underage girls, taking their virginity, etc. Holy fuck that was vile and stupid. I honestly can't believe he would say such terrible things on video and none of it was necessary. They could have stuck with basic motivation videos and been fine. Do I believe they are guilty? Yes, I do. Here's why. One thing I noticed about them in person, as nice as they were to me, is that are operating from a different place mentally. They look at things through a different lens. The impression I got from them is that the law doesn't apply to them. Some things they said made it sound like they were above law enforcement in every country simply because they are rich and "know people." They lean HEAVILY on their network. That being said, I believe they didn't necessarily know they were breaking some laws, but absolutely broke them. There are countless people in prison for breaking laws they didn't know they were breaking. Human trafficking? Yea. Guilty. Andrew's method if making a woman fall in love with him, move to Romania, and then get her to work on cam, is by definition the lover boy method of human trafficking. Andrew himself is on video bragging about how he did exactly this more than once. Did he know it was illegal? Probably not. But he still did it. Trafficking doesn't have to mean you kidnapped someone. The method he has admitted to and the police mentioned is the lover boy method. He's guilty as fuck on this, even if he didn't realize it at the time. What about money laundering? If he gets nailed on anything, it will be this. They did talk about how they handled money, crypto, etc. They are big on crypto. Well, at least they were when we met. Then add casinos to the mix. He bragged to us how he'll never pay taxes to the West and it was impossible to catch him. I remember this vividly because I knew he was wrong. I didn't debate it with him, I just let him talk. He was interesting to listen to so that's what I did most of the time. Organized crime? Given his self admitted connections to the Romania mafia and how they operated schemes out of his War Room, I'm going to go with guilty here as well. Not in an Al Capone kind of way, but in a sloppy guy with bad advice who didn't understand what he was setting up kind of way. Rape? Can't say. That's difficult to prove either way. I do know he doesn't need to do that to get a woman, but it's about power and control for him, so who knows. My guess is this won't stick. This hasn't been said yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if they toss tax evasion into the mix. That might happen there, or in one of his home countries. Probably a slam dunk that will go hand and hand with money laundering. The women who are claiming they are not victims are a red herring. There are still multiple women who claim otherwise but all everyone is talking about are the couple who say they are not. It also moves the conversation away from money laundering and organized crime. The Tate's have said many times on camera that they are master manipulators. Andrew loves to play chess and looks at life like a giant chess board. Controlling the narrative is what he likes to do, and what he's doing now. His War Room bros are involved in a lot of this (social media narrative control) from what I understand. These are very serious crimes and if found guilty, they are going to prison for quite some time. They could also plead guilty instead of going to trial for a reduced prison vacation. I'd bet this is what they will do because there won't be any shortage of evidence once they go to trial. A few years is better than 20. The prosecutor will want a conviction either way and will probably get one. I think they are two guys who came from nothing and got caught up in their own fame and circumstance and they let it erode their morals and judgement. Money and fame can do that to people. As some of you know, money will only amplify what and who you really are. Justice will run its course here. The entire world is watching this case so it's unlikely Romania will pull any nonsense. From everything I've looked at, they are following the letter of their law so far, even with the detainment. What's happening seems unjust to many people, but that's how they do things there. They can be held for 180 days maximum while the investigation finishes. Then they will file official charges and set a trial date. The judges are 75% women, which isn't good for them. There is no jury. The prosecutor only has to provide enough evidence to convince the judges of their guilt. Andrew chose Romania for it's high level of corruption but never thought in a million years it would backfire on him. This goes back to what I said about believing they were above the law. They really believe that shit. They have now hired a hot shot US attorney. Surprisingly, a female. From what I understand, she can not speak in court in Romania and can only meet with them, not practice. This makes me wonder if the USA is cooking up charges as well. Very possible all things considered. There are some laws that will follow US citizens beyond the borders of the USA. Those of you who know me know that I've been around a bit, made porn in many sketchy countries, been arrested, bribed foreign police, and so on. I've been there and done that abroad when it comes to the adult business. I have a pretty good insight on how some of this works. One thing I've learned through all of that, is that people who get this much stacked against them are in for a VERY rough ride. The time to bribe their way out of this is long gone. I also know that none of these nations are going to take any pity whatsoever on someone found guilty of human trafficking. Neither will his cell mates in prison. There are some things you just don't do, and that's one of them, even if it's by mistake. TL;DR - I've met them. Know a little about their operations. I believe they are in for a world of hurt, even if some of their crimes were committed accidentally. Cheers!

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DWB Giggity Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: S.E. Asia Posts: 31,779	Ouch. Turns out when they raided his home and took all of his devices, they also got his wallet and just seized 300k worth of crypto according to what's breaking in Romania now. This is why their investigation process is long, there's a lot to unravel in some of these cases. Especially when you're dealing with people who have many sources of income, many alleged victims, and globe trot.

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