looking for a C++ programmer with no ethics as to what they're coding - GoFuckYourself.com

notjoe · 05-20-2003, 10:50 PM

I have a project which needs to be done in C++ and run on a unix machine.

The programmer of what i need wont care about what it is they're coding and will only care about getting paid.

If you are an ethical person and wont code certian projects which you may or may not agree with dont bother ICQ'ing me.

Serious offers only please.

TaDoW · 05-20-2003, 10:53 PM

I think that's a good way to build a good name for yourself when you go to market the product too :-)

EscortBiz · 05-20-2003, 10:54 PM

at least hes upfront, this is a classic thou

quiet · 05-20-2003, 10:56 PM

great post

notjoe · 05-20-2003, 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by TaDoW
I think that's a good way to build a good name for yourself when you go to market the product too :-)

If you had a clue as to what i have in mind you would understand ;)

There are many levels as to what is ethical and in what regards you're referring to ethical as.

notjoe · 05-20-2003, 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by notjoe

If you had a clue as to what i have in mind you would understand ;)

There are many levels as to what is ethical and in what regards you're referring to ethical as.

And the people who will use what the product produces will be happier than a pig in shit. Lets just say it has absolutely nothing to do with any Adult Website/Main Stream website.

greentea · 05-20-2003, 10:59 PM

translation looking for a cheap indian programmer to build me an affiliate script with advanced shave o matic features.

ldinternet · 05-20-2003, 11:01 PM

For your own safety, I hope you're not the owner of 27meg.com

BigFrog · 05-20-2003, 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by greentea
translation looking for a cheap indian programmer to build me an affiliate script with advanced shave o matic features.

or the ultimate hitbot.

notjoe · 05-20-2003, 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by greentea
translation looking for a cheap indian programmer to build me an affiliate script with advanced shave o matic features.

Any idiot with half a brain could probably learn how to program in php and write their own affiliate program.

Thanks for coming out though!

notjoe · 05-20-2003, 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by BigFrog

or the ultimate hitbot.

Thats easy enough for me to code myself if i wanted it.

Far-L · 05-20-2003, 11:21 PM

Levels to ethics?

Do you mind then if I get your girlfriend kind of pregnant?

You better stop skipping philosophy class.

TaDoW · 05-20-2003, 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by notjoe

Lets just say it has absolutely nothing to do with any Adult Website/Main Stream website.

so that leaves.... ?

notjoe · 05-20-2003, 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by Far-L
Levels to ethics?

Do you mind then if I get your girlfriend kind of pregnant?

You better stop skipping philosophy class.

So yes there are many levels to what sort of ethics you have.
Kind of how people hate to be spammed when someone is willing to mail out their affiliate site they'll jump all over the traffic.

Ethics are not black and white but rather a feeling of how someone feels towards something. What you find unethical may be ethical to someone else.

notjoe · 05-20-2003, 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by TaDoW

so that leaves.... ?

About 1 billion other things which someone could program in C++ running on a unix server.

quiet · 05-20-2003, 11:32 PM

Lane · 05-20-2003, 11:52 PM

you have contradicted yourself

if a programmer needs to be ethical, he has to know what he is coding and what it is going to be used for.

kmanrox · 05-20-2003, 11:54 PM

did you just say that out loud??? hehe

psyko514 · 05-20-2003, 11:55 PM

i'll do it.
just so long as i can base it around the C++ hangman game i did in grade 10

Lane · 05-20-2003, 11:55 PM

http://www.cpsr.org/program/ethics/cei.html

fnet · 05-20-2003, 11:59 PM

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Originally posted by notjoe

About 1 billion other things which someone could program in C++ running on a unix server.

Yeah but there's a performance implication just by your choice of language. That narrows things down in the adult world. Unless this is something new.

It's not that crime doesn't pay, it's that it doesn't pay very well. And in the case of writing a mailer... the spectre of not getting paid at all prevails over opportunism.

Far-L · 05-21-2003, 12:01 AM

So according to your description... ethics are whatever you say is alright by you but may not be alright with someone else?

That is ethical?

You are describing the lack of ethics... not ethics.

Glad you can program a hitbot but you have not a clue as to what ethics are.

MattO · 05-21-2003, 12:02 AM

You must be coding the keys to the gates of Hell.

notjoe · 05-21-2003, 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by Lane
you have contradicted yourself

if a programmer needs to be ethical, he has to know what he is coding and what it is going to be used for.

Where did i say i wanted an ethical programmer?

notjoe · 05-21-2003, 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by fnet

Yeah but there's a performance implication just by your choice of language. That narrows things down in the adult world. Unless this is something new.

It's not that crime doesn't pay, it's that it doesn't pay very well. And in the case of writing a mailer... the spectre of not getting paid at all prevails over opportunism.

Who ever said it was anything related to adult? Stop assuming.

As for your little crime spewl, i believe what is illegal and what isnt illegal is solely based on geographical information.

IE: Bondage is illegal up here in canada yet allowed in the USA.

cash69 · 05-21-2003, 12:10 AM

sounds like a spammer... do i win the prize?

quiet · 05-21-2003, 12:11 AM

there is ethics... and there is morality...

fnet · 05-21-2003, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by notjoe

Who ever said it was anything related to adult? Stop assuming.

As for your little crime spewl, i believe what is illegal and what isnt illegal is solely based on geographical information.

IE: Bondage is illegal up here in canada yet allowed in the USA.

Eh, well, you pretty much fell into that one. Now we know what you want.

notjoe · 05-21-2003, 12:13 AM

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Originally posted by Far-L
So according to your description... ethics are whatever you say is alright by you but may not be alright with someone else?

That is ethical?

You are describing the lack of ethics... not ethics.

Glad you can program a hitbot but you have not a clue as to what ethics are.

I think porn is ethical, however christian rights groups may not thing it is ethical. Ethiics is based on ones opinion of something and whether they feel it is right not.

You seem to think Ethics are just as simple as printing a "What is ethical" manual? It boils down to the morals of a person to define what is and isnt ethical to that person, not that everyone would agree with ones perception of ethical but that is the beauty of living in North American, we're able to make those choices for ourselfs.

notjoe · 05-21-2003, 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
there is ethics... and there is morality...

one in the same, in my humble opinion

notjoe · 05-21-2003, 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by fnet

Eh, well, you pretty much fell into that one. Now we know what you want.

I didnt fall for shit, you're the one who is actually asking the questions and by having me answer i've disclosed what it is i am looking for?

For all you know i could be looking for a DB/Client app so that everyone will use my DNS servers to resolve the internet, so that way i can control where they go.

Illegal? No, Ethical? I dont think there is anything wrong with it but some others might disagree.

berg.the.red · 05-21-2003, 12:17 AM

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Originally posted by MattO
You must be coding the keys to the gates of Hell.

nope ... Gates and Co. got windows going LONG before this ...

notjoe · 05-21-2003, 12:19 AM

What does the word ethical mean?

Source: The Collins English Dictionary ? 2000 HarperCollins Publishers:

ethical ['haha603;haha952;haha305;khaha601;l]
adjective
1 in accordance with principles of conduct that are considered correct, esp. those of a given profession or group

2 of or relating to ethics

3 (of a medicinal agent) available legally only with a doctor's prescription or consent
'ethically adverb(ial)
'ethicalness, "ethi'cality noun

Sounds to me that ethics are tied in with morals and principles, which are defined by a persons beliefs.

quiet · 05-21-2003, 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by notjoe

one in the same, in my humble opinion

in a Philosphical sense, they have different meanings. i don't really feel like getting into it right now, unless i'm pushed lol

notjoe · 05-21-2003, 12:32 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

in a Philosphical sense, they have different meanings. i don't really feel like getting into it right now, unless i'm pushed lol

Maybe another day you can explain to me the Philosphical definition of ethical vs. the real world of ethics. I am no Philosphical major but to me what is and isnt ethical has always been based on my beliefs and morals.

I dont speak for anyone else though ;)

Far-L · 05-21-2003, 12:35 AM

Why don't you read some Aristotle, Plato, and Socrates and get back to me.

Ethics are not Morality, though they are based on morals partially and neither are geographical laws necessarily moral or ethical, but laws are an inspiration of ethics but not necessarily the definition of ethical.

Get the logic?

Daen · 05-21-2003, 12:45 AM

I have said it before and I will say it again an 'Ethical Pornographer' is a contradiction in terms.

fnet · 05-21-2003, 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by notjoe

For all you know i could be looking for a DB/Client app so that everyone will use my DNS servers to resolve the internet, so that way i can control where they go.

For all I know you've been drinking.

harvey · 05-21-2003, 12:51 AM

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Originally posted by Lane
http://www.cpsr.org/program/ethics/cei.html

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/sh...threadid=27957

you know...

notjoe · 05-21-2003, 12:58 AM

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Originally posted by Far-L
Why don't you read some Aristotle, Plato, and Socrates and get back to me.

Ethics are not Morality, though they are based on morals partially and neither are geographical laws necessarily moral or ethical, but laws are an inspiration of ethics but not necessarily the definition of ethical.

Get the logic?

Yes and no, and while i agree with you to a certian point i fail to see the logic in what you're saying.

"Ethics are not Morality" I beg to differ. It is the morality and beliefs which will lead us to what is and isnt ethical.

Lets take the bible for example. it was the bible which brought the beliefs and more or less taught us what is ethical, IE: Dont Steal, Dont Cheat, Dont Commit murder.. None of those things are ethical. All of those things are against the law.

"but laws are an inspiration of ethics but not necessarily the definition of ethical" While this might be true to a point it isnt quite what i said. God knows how many stupid laws exist from back in the day in regards to things which were not ethical then but are now.

Im still waiting for you to show the list of what is and isnt ethical. You know, since you think everything is or isnt ethical by a certian standard and not based off someones morals/beliefs/own ethics.

It may not be ethical to hit a chick but if she is chasing you around beating the shit out with some blunt object for 30 mins are you just going to continue on standing there or will you smack her ontime and tell her to get a grip?

In concolusion, ethics are completely b ased off ones beliefs and morals. Take any religious part of the world for example where their beliefs and morals differ from ours and yet in their own mind(s) they are ethical because they believe in what they're doing and that isnt wrong (morally or not)/ethical to do it.

Want another example? I dont think it is ethical to eat Aniamls such as dogs and cats, those are some of MANS best friends and yet in the asian parts of the world it is ok to eat them beause that is what they eat. Is Ethical in my mind to eat an animal which has shown man so much companionship over the countless centuries? No, but is it ethical in their mind to eat them? yes.

Anyways im off to bed as it is about 4AM and im left with about 3 hrs sleep before i gotta wake up

psyko514 · 05-21-2003, 01:01 AM

i guess that's a no?

FATPad · 05-21-2003, 01:57 AM

I hope you get some programmer with no ethics to write something really illegal for you...then he turns around and blackmails you for a shitload of cash.

Nothing personal, I just think that would be funny.

- Jesus Christ - · 05-21-2003, 02:00 AM

The funny thing is... if he hires an unethical programmer... the programmer will leave a nice big backdoor for himself to take a few extra slices of the pizza.

mmm pizza.

Theo · 05-21-2003, 04:28 AM

i know a top unethical programmer, he'll get your money and never deliver anything

Far-L · 05-21-2003, 09:06 AM

Moses' law is moral law and has only a passing association with Ethics.

I am not going to try an educate you on the subject since you obviously have your own definition and agenda here.

If you are developing something to cheat people then chances are that you are being unethical.

Now you want to talk about Kharma?

MattO · 05-21-2003, 09:23 AM

semantics

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Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,065	So according to your description... ethics are whatever you say is alright by you but may not be alright with someone else? That is ethical? You are describing the lack of ethics... not ethics. Glad you can program a hitbot but you have not a clue as to what ethics are. __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

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quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	there is ethics... and there is morality...

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notjoe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 5,599	What does the word ethical mean? Source: The Collins English Dictionary ? 2000 HarperCollins Publishers: ethical ['haha603;haha952;haha305;khaha601;l] adjective 1 in accordance with principles of conduct that are considered correct, esp. those of a given profession or group 2 of or relating to ethics 3 (of a medicinal agent) available legally only with a doctor's prescription or consent 'ethically adverb(ial) 'ethicalness, "ethi'cality noun Sounds to me that ethics are tied in with morals and principles, which are defined by a persons beliefs.

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Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,065	Why don't you read some Aristotle, Plato, and Socrates and get back to me. Ethics are not Morality, though they are based on morals partially and neither are geographical laws necessarily moral or ethical, but laws are an inspiration of ethics but not necessarily the definition of ethical. Get the logic? __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

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Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,065	Moses' law is moral law and has only a passing association with Ethics. I am not going to try an educate you on the subject since you obviously have your own definition and agenda here. If you are developing something to cheat people then chances are that you are being unethical. Now you want to talk about Kharma? __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn." Last edited by Far-L; 05-21-2003 at 09:20 AM..

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