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09-27-2022, 06:49 PM

Hey, I appreciate all of your responses.

This guy was good at "shadowing" the competition. Every fucking website I pulled up I think I saw his face on it once I found him. I also think he was betting on google ad words and quickly realized adult marketing is a little different than mainstream and google adwords wasn't having it.

His strategy was as many backlinks as he can, no matter the quality. I think that's archaic but what do I know?

The second company I interviewed is vastly different in price as I think they were in the 7500-8500 range per month. It was a huge difference in the 1300 per month - but I had to try.

Now if I could get someone in the 5k range who knows what they are doing...that would be great.

I simply don't feel like doing it and I'm at my ceiling of what I'm willing to learn about it.
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09-27-2022, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

Hey, I appreciate all of your responses.

This guy was good at "shadowing" the competition. Every fucking website I pulled up I think I saw his face on it once I found him. I also think he was betting on google ad words and quickly realized adult marketing is a little different than mainstream and google adwords wasn't having it.

His strategy was as many backlinks as he can, no matter the quality. I think that's archaic but what do I know?

The second company I interviewed is vastly different in price as I think they were in the 7500-8500 range per month. It was a huge difference in the 1300 per month - but I had to try.

Now if I could get someone in the 5k range who knows what they are doing...that would be great.

I simply don't feel like doing it and I'm at my ceiling of what I'm willing to learn about it.

that's some crazy pricing for this industry.

my if you have a $5k budget just hire 2-3 people who want to learn as they go. SEO is too slow to pay monthly in my opinion. it takes Google 3-5 days just to validate a fix/change, and months of burning your cash to see any effects in rankings. if you have a marketer on staff they can do all your other marketing tasks too. there's tons of younger web guys who would work full-time for you at $1500-2000 a month. they'll put in 40-60 hours a week if you find someone obsessed with it. i was like that many years ago lol

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09-27-2022, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

His strategy was as many backlinks as he can, no matter the quality. I think that's archaic but what do I know?

Of course, it's archaic. Every factor that can be easily manipulated or paid for $$$ is not a valuable long-term SEO ROI. It’s only about time when SE will realize it. And change the algorithm to detect it. That is exactly why link buying is not among the No.1 factors to rank nowadays. It can be easily manipulated, either with $$$ or other methods. Especially with the bulk link buys, no matter the quality. (Btw, not saying that quality authority links will not bring any value.)

Originally posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

Now if I could get someone in the 5k range who knows what they are doing...that would be great.

$1300 per month for SEO is indeed a low figure. But at least, you should get some results/reports of what you have paid for. 5k is more realistic not including 3rd party costs such as content writing as per instructions, and others.

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09-28-2022, 12:52 AM

And just for motivation. SEO certainly pays off if done correctly. And it takes same time to see results in most of the cases. This is the GSC graph of one of my, well let's say friend, not a client.

We started with SEO consultations in Dec 2021. The document changes took place starting from March 2022 . You can clearly see the effects, after some period. (around 2-3 months)

It's a mainstream ecommerce website in a competitive niche.
Highly commercial/transactional intent KWs/topics.

Needless to say, organics sales increase is over 300% now, compared to the previous period.

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09-28-2022, 01:39 AM

Ah seems to many specialists these days
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09-28-2022, 06:23 AM

I am sorry and a bit of an old school, but over the years I have heard that you must have good:

Alexa ranking, links buying and selling, DA, PA, Keywords, Core Vitals, Good CTRs, good SERPs, Interlinking, Optimization, KWs, GSC ranks, ROI... and dozens of other SEO tricks ( most I do NOT even know what they mean)...

.... BUT NOBODY has ever mentioned a " good original content" as a part of SEO. Clicks this, clicks that. If you have a shit content, NO SEO guru will save your ass, but if you do have a good content folks will find you with a minimal effort and you make a good living.

Living off affiliates or clicks ( unless you are Pornhub at al) will keep you in poverty.
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09-28-2022, 06:56 AM

Originally posted by plsureking

that's some crazy pricing for this industry.

my if you have a $5k budget just hire 2-3 people who want to learn as they go. SEO is too slow to pay monthly in my opinion. it takes Google 3-5 days just to validate a fix/change, and months of burning your cash to see any effects in rankings. if you have a marketer on staff they can do all your other marketing tasks too. there's tons of younger web guys who would work full-time for you at $1500-2000 a month. they'll put in 40-60 hours a week if you find someone obsessed with it. i was like that many years ago lol

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Unfortunately, finding those tons of young guys proves to be difficult. That's why I reached out to the mainstream SEO guys.

There are plenty of people around here willing to take your money and not deliver what they say. Then there are people who can deliver it but are just too busy doing their own thing.

I don't want to have to babysit who I hire to make sure they are doing what they say, and that's part of the issue.

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09-28-2022, 06:57 AM

Originally posted by celandina

I am sorry and a bit of an old school, but over the years I have heard that you must have good:

Alexa ranking, links buying and selling, DA, PA, Keywords, Core Vitals, Good CTRs, good SERPs, Interlinking, Optimization, KWs, GSC ranks, ROI... and dozens of other SEO tricks ( most I do NOT even know what they mean)...

.... BUT NOBODY has ever mentioned a " good original content" as a part of SEO. Clicks this, clicks that. If you have a shit content, NO SEO guru will save your ass, but if you do have a good content folks will find you with a minimal effort and you make a good living.

Living off affiliates or clicks ( unless you are Pornhub at al) will keep you in poverty.

It all starts with good content =)
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09-29-2022, 03:51 AM

In my limited experience I think that when it comes to seo with adult it's a totally different ruleset to mainstream

For instance. " Best porn sites" how is the site ranked number 1 out ranking number 2? You will know what I mean when you see it

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09-29-2022, 04:13 AM

Originally posted by mrmister

In my limited experience I think that when it comes to seo with adult it's a totally different ruleset to mainstream

I agree here. All of the above mentioned in this thread applies to mainstream quite well, but adult has the degenerate-factor and so SEs can simply downgrade us in their algos for that reason alone. And they do.
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09-29-2022, 07:32 AM

Originally posted by ultra100

And just for motivation. SEO certainly pays off if done correctly. And it takes same time to see results in most of the cases. This is the GSC graph of one of my, well let's say friend, not a client.

We started with SEO consultations in Dec 2021. The document changes took place starting from March 2022 . You can clearly see the effects, after some period. (around 2-3 months)

It's a mainstream ecommerce website in a competitive niche.
Highly commercial/transactional intent KWs/topics.

Needless to say, organics sales increase is over 300% now, compared to the previous period.

That's very nice growth at a good pace. If I had seen ANY growth, I'd keep going with him, but to see the site go down when I stop, and he takes over...eh. I can't keep going for another 3 months with that.

It's simply tedious and needs to be done consistently....but it's not rocket science, I don't think.
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10-01-2022, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by celandina

I am sorry and a bit of an old school, but over the years I have heard that you must have good:

Alexa ranking, links buying and selling, DA, PA, Keywords, Core Vitals, Good CTRs, good SERPs, Interlinking, Optimization, KWs, GSC ranks, ROI... and dozens of other SEO tricks ( most I do NOT even know what they mean)...

.... BUT NOBODY has ever mentioned a " good original content" as a part of SEO. Clicks this, clicks that. If you have a shit content, NO SEO guru will save your ass, but if you do have a good content folks will find you with a minimal effort and you make a good living.

Living off affiliates or clicks ( unless you are Pornhub at al) will keep you in poverty.

Good content with a solid SEO strategy is pretty great money.

But you're right, especially in adult where the content is (mostly) visual, good content makes any traffic acquisition strategy "stick".

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10-01-2022, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by mopek1

I agree here. All of the above mentioned in this thread applies to mainstream quite well, but adult has the degenerate-factor and so SEs can simply downgrade us in their algos for that reason alone. And they do.

I've never seen much evidence of that in 20 years. I've seen people say that who are really bad at SEO, have really bad content or a combination of the two, though.

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10-01-2022, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by trevesty

I've never seen much evidence of that in 20 years. I've seen people say that who are really bad at SEO, have really bad content or a combination of the two, though.

I remember in March 2018 or so my Google traffic spiked and I thought it was just me. But then every webmaster here reported the same. Then this past June or so, every webmaster here (well, most of us) have experienced the same drop. I know some sites are doing well, but it seems that Google blankets adult rankings to some degree just because it's adult. Giving mainstream results for adult terms.
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10-02-2022, 03:03 AM

Originally posted by mopek1

I remember in March 2018 or so my Google traffic spiked and I thought it was just me. But then every webmaster here reported the same. Then this past June or so, every webmaster here (well, most of us) have experienced the same drop. I know some sites are doing well, but it seems that Google blankets adult rankings to some degree just because it's adult. Giving mainstream results for adult terms.

Are those the same people who might be lucky to make $150 per month on Chaturbate and are whining about being "down" at this very moment in the Chaturbate thread?

What "adult terms"? Stuff like this might happen for a day or two during a core algo update, but usually corrects itself. In any case, I've never seen this at scale or on any level that matters. Some popular pornstar's Wikipedia or Instagram being in the top 3 makes more sense than Billy's shitty porn blog running on an outdated WP install.

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