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  • blackmonsters
    Making PHP work
    • Nov 2002
    • 20970

    #1

    Why can onlyfans let everybody make money but Youtube can't?

    I've never used onlyfans in any form so sorry if I missed the obvious here.

    Youtube partner program is hard to get into and after I was in it for 2 years, I got kicked
    out because of not having enough subscribers.
    So I can't make money on youtube anymore even from my previous videos.

    The onlyfans model would seem to make sense for youtube; or does it?

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  • lockept93
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2019
    • 854

    #2
    For YouTube - Google! - OnlyFans is still a small fish.
    YouTube is real mainstream, family kids friendly orientated.
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    • blackmonsters
      Making PHP work
      • Nov 2002
      • 20970

      #3
      Originally posted by lockept93
      For YouTube - Google! - OnlyFans is still a small fish.
      YouTube is real mainstream, family kids friendly orientated.
      No shit.
      Did you even read the question?

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      • RyuLion
        • Mar 2003
        • 32369

        #4
        sex sells...

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        • CurrentlySober
          Too lazy to wipe my ass
          • Aug 2002
          • 38945

          #5
          Originally posted by RyuLion
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          • digitalfantasies
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2010
            • 2759

            #6
            Because Youtube earns money through ads. They need to maximize conversion to keep advertisers interested. And conversion is highest amongst subscribers with repeat views of the same ad.
            Allowing channels with low user engagement to be monetized will bring down their conversion ratio.

            This doesn't apply to only fans in the same way

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            • lockept93
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2019
              • 854

              #7
              Originally posted by blackmonsters
              No shit.
              Did you even read the question?

              No shit. I try to explain you why your question is weird.
              Hey guys, pls tell me why the biggest companies don't copy the buisness model from smaller ones?
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              • blackmonsters
                Making PHP work
                • Nov 2002
                • 20970

                #8
                Originally posted by lockept93
                No shit. I try to explain you why your question is weird.
                Hey guys, pls tell me why the biggest companies don't copy the buisness model from smaller ones?
                Yo mamma!

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                • Ronzo
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 160

                  #9
                  How do you make money with OnlyFans if you're only an affiliate marketer?... NOT a content creator.

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                  • j3rkules
                    VIP
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 22111

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ronzo
                    How do you make money with OnlyFans if you're only an affiliate marketer?... NOT a content creator.
                    They had a referral program in the past but they discounted it.

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                    • sandman!
                      Icq: 14420613
                      • Mar 2001
                      • 15431

                      #11
                      the reason is they dont want to bother having to police small $100 a month accounts not worth it to them.
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                      • blackmonsters
                        Making PHP work
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 20970

                        #12
                        Originally posted by sandman!
                        the reason is they dont want to bother having to police small $100 a month accounts not worth it to them.
                        That makes sense; but don't they have those anyway with every other female thinking they can make bank but don't?

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                        • zijlstravideo
                          Confirmed User
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 806

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sandman!
                          the reason is they dont want to bother having to police small $100 a month accounts not worth it to them.
                          I have a small $100 a month channel. Lol, I think it makes even less... (Believe around $80-ish for around 50K views monthly)

                          Got a second and even smaller channel, which generates 4 times the ad revenue but from only half the views, solely through affiliate links in the description.


                          So, unless you can pull a few million views per month, becoming a Youtube partner isn't really all that exciting.
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                          • wankawonk
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 1018

                            #14
                            Originally posted by digitalfantasies
                            Because Youtube earns money through ads. They need to maximize conversion to keep advertisers interested. And conversion is highest amongst subscribers with repeat views of the same ad.
                            Allowing channels with low user engagement to be monetized will bring down their conversion ratio.

                            This doesn't apply to only fans in the same way
                            that's the real answer

                            also youtube needs to have great trust for your channel to show ads on it, because they can't afford to show ads on any objectionable content. Advertisers won't stand for that.

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                            • sandman!
                              Icq: 14420613
                              • Mar 2001
                              • 15431

                              #15
                              Must be an old one they don’t allow that anymore I don’t think

                              Originally posted by zijlstravideo
                              I have a small $100 a month channel. Lol, I think it makes even less... (Believe around $80-ish for around 50K views monthly)

                              Got a second and even smaller channel, which generates 4 times the ad revenue but from only half the views, solely through affiliate links in the description.


                              So, unless you can pull a few million views per month, becoming a Youtube partner isn't really all that exciting.
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                              • sandman!
                                Icq: 14420613
                                • Mar 2001
                                • 15431

                                #16
                                Nope YouTube clapped down on approving new accounts awile ago for the partner program


                                Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                That makes sense; but don't they have those anyway with every other female thinking they can make bank but don't?

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                                • CurrentlySober
                                  Too lazy to wipe my ass
                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 38945

                                  #17
                                  well, they could, but simply don't need too...

                                  Millions of people upload new content to youtube a day for free. Over 500 hours per minute, every minute. (source)

                                  YouTube can make money on this content by running ads and keeping all the profit.

                                  How many girls would be uploading their content to OnlyFans per minute, if OF said that they would run ads on the content, give it away for free and not pay the girl a penny?

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                                  • DVTimes
                                    xxx
                                    • Jun 2003
                                    • 31658

                                    #18
                                    Youtube is not easy to make money with.

                                    You ned to be entertaining and possibly do something different.

                                    Youtube channels are becoming production firms, with professional editors and so on.

                                    However the problem is, you can be shut down at any point.

                                    On top of that you need to keep putting vids out.
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                                    • DVTimes
                                      xxx
                                      • Jun 2003
                                      • 31658

                                      #19
                                      I have noticed that many people are trying to do such as youtube and tiktok and Instagram. I find it amusing to open walk past someone and hear them on the phone saying they are a Instagram celebrity.

                                      Yesterday I was in town (I hate going but my mate wanted some money bags from the bank), and you could see people in groups walking around with camera phones on selfie sticks doing vids.

                                      What I am getting at, is this is oversaturated now.

                                      In my opinion, you are best to look at something a lot different.
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                                      • DVTimes
                                        xxx
                                        • Jun 2003
                                        • 31658

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by wankawonk
                                        that's the real answer

                                        also youtube needs to have great trust for your channel to show ads on it, because they can't afford to show ads on any objectionable content. Advertisers won't stand for that.

                                        If it was me, I would not be wasting time trying to make money with YouTube adverts, but find a sponsor or sponsors and you do the advert on your own films on youtube.

                                        I suspect youtube adverts are not affective, as most people skip them, and they tend to be rubbish.

                                        Of course if your vids get a million views (per vid), then your probably best to get money from youtube adverts, and just keep pumping out vids as often as you can.

                                        One problem is those who do such as youtube vids are burning out. They need to do a vid or more a day. And the moment they take a few days break, people can move away and they loose income.
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                                        • DVTimes
                                          xxx
                                          • Jun 2003
                                          • 31658

                                          #21
                                          I have spoken to a few models who do onlyfans.

                                          Even those with only a few followers earn a decent mount of money.

                                          Onlyfans converts, as its a personal thing.
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                                          • zijlstravideo
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Sep 2013
                                            • 806

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DVTimes
                                            I have noticed that many people are trying to do such as youtube and tiktok and Instagram. I find it amusing to open walk past someone and hear them on the phone saying they are a Instagram celebrity.

                                            Yesterday I was in town (I hate going but my mate wanted some money bags from the bank), and you could see people in groups walking around with camera phones on selfie sticks doing vids.
                                            There's of course a lot more than just the "vlogger" niche, crappy slideshows or videos made for entertainment purpose only. Youtube can be really good for educational content for example as well (like 1 hour in-depth instruction guides etc).

                                            Originally posted by DVTimes

                                            What I am getting at, is this is oversaturated now.

                                            In my opinion, you are best to look at something a lot different.
                                            This depends what your goal is... You are right if your goal is to "get rich quick", Youtube is the exact opposite of that.

                                            if a channel is about something you are passionate about and it allows you to make a few bucks to expand your hobby... I think it's still worth it.

                                            For example, I have a HDMI recorder sitting between my PC and monitor and whenever I want to check out something new and go mess around with it on some rainy sunday, I just press the button and record the whole setup from start to finish, just in case I encounter some errors or difficulties.

                                            If so, I just cut the part showing how to fix it, include hardware and software affiliate links and 6 to 12 months later, those sales usually paid off the whole mini PC or other hardware parts used, which is a nice bonus.
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                                            • zijlstravideo
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Sep 2013
                                              • 806

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by sandman!
                                              Must be an old one they don’t allow that anymore I don’t think
                                              Yeah, old channel. I believe you needed 1000 subs to become Youtube partner.

                                              But indeed, I see my second channel (much newer) passed that number and it's not monetized through ads. No clue what that new magic number would be these days.
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                                              • CurrentlySober
                                                Too lazy to wipe my ass
                                                • Aug 2002
                                                • 38945

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by zijlstravideo
                                                Yeah, old channel. I believe you needed 1000 subs to become Youtube partner.

                                                But indeed, I see my second channel (much newer) passed that number and it's not monetized through ads. No clue what that new magic number would be these days.
                                                To qualify for the YPP, you need to be in good standing with YouTube, have 4,000 valid public watch hours in the previous 12 months and at least 1,000 subscribers.

                                                You will also need to follow all the YouTube monetisation policies, live in a country/region where the YouTube Partner Programme is available and have a linked AdSense account.


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                                                • SeeMyBucks
                                                  Registered User
                                                  • Jul 2013
                                                  • 37

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                  I've never used onlyfans in any form so sorry if I missed the obvious here.

                                                  Youtube partner program is hard to get into and after I was in it for 2 years, I got kicked
                                                  out because of not having enough subscribers.
                                                  So I can't make money on youtube anymore even from my previous videos.

                                                  The onlyfans model would seem to make sense for youtube; or does it?

                                                  I was told YouTube made $20 billion in revenue in 2020. Probably more than OnlyFans.

                                                  As hobby, I have a youtube travel channel, publishing one or two videos a month and i'm making ~1.2K from that which is great. I would do it for free...


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                                                  • blackmonsters
                                                    Making PHP work
                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                    • 20970

                                                    #26
                                                    It's official; my life is over.
                                                    I unblocked DVTimes on Tampermonkey, read his post, and he made sense.
                                                    The world must be ending; because this can't be true.

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                                                    • zijlstravideo
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Sep 2013
                                                      • 806

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by SeeMyBucks

                                                      As hobby, I have a youtube travel channel, publishing one or two videos a month and i'm making ~1.2K from that which is great. I would do it for free...
                                                      That's also how I approach Youtube.
                                                      But must say, 1.2K monthly is a pretty nice "extra", especially considering it's your hobby anyway...

                                                      You've monetized your channel just with ads, or also affiliate offers / sponsor deals?
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                                                      • FTS8
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                                                        • Oct 2021
                                                        • 434

                                                        #28
                                                        I thought it was hard to reach 400 hours of Youtube views to qualify for monetization, now they made it 4000...
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                                                        • plsureking
                                                          bored
                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                          • 4904

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by FTS8
                                                          I thought it was hard to reach 400 hours of Youtube views to qualify for monetization, now they made it 4000...
                                                          new channels are hitting it with a lot of live hours.

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                                                          • The Porn Nerd
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                                                            • Jun 2009
                                                            • 19787

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                            Yo mamma!

                                                            You stole my reason.

                                                            Quick question tho: why not record more videos and try to resurrect your YouTube Channel?
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                                                            • blackmonsters
                                                              Making PHP work
                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                              • 20970

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                              You stole my reason.

                                                              Quick question tho: why not record more videos and try to resurrect your YouTube Channel?
                                                              The double whammy they hit me with caused me to hold up.
                                                              My gfydrama channel was cut off first because I didn't have enough total views.
                                                              Then a month or two later they cut off my other channel for not having enough subscribers and total hours watched.
                                                              Even though that channel had close to 500K views.

                                                              So where does it end?
                                                              What's the next criteria going to be after I bust my ass to make more videos?
                                                              Will I then need 5k subscribers to stay eligible?

                                                              Further more; it's all admittedly rigged by an algorithm that will push one video to higher views over another.

                                                              So there is no way to predict that I will get enough views no matter how good I think my videos are.


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