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  • Retiree
    Life is short
    • May 2012
    • 1483

    #1

    Adult billing recommendations?

    I know ccbill, epoch, segpay, verotel, but can someone recommend anything else? Maybe local ones for certain countries or some alternatives, as mobile billing, etc. Anything that welcomes adult and isn't of those 4 main ones above.
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  • baddog
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    • Apr 2001
    • 107089

    #2
    MobiusPay.com

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    • Retiree
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      • May 2012
      • 1483

      #3
      Originally posted by baddog
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      • avx
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        • Jan 2007
        • 84

        #4
        Originally posted by Retiree
        I know ccbill, epoch, segpay, verotel, but can someone recommend anything else? Maybe local ones for certain countries or some alternatives, as mobile billing, etc. Anything that welcomes adult and isn't of those 4 main ones above.
        Dialxs.com. Dutch company in the business for ages and has tons of alternate/local billng methods

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        • kuprum
          Affiliate-Programs.Biz
          • Oct 2016
          • 17920

          #5
          Segpay.com

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          • TheDani
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            • Apr 2021
            • 61

            #6
            https://www.probiller.com/

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            • Retiree
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              • May 2012
              • 1483

              #7
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              • fuzebox
                making it rain
                • Oct 2003
                • 22352

                #8
                Curious, why wouldn't you want to use the biggest companies who have been around the longest?

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                • Retiree
                  Life is short
                  • May 2012
                  • 1483

                  #9
                  Originally posted by fuzebox
                  Curious, why wouldn't you want to use the biggest companies who have been around the longest?
                  I do use them...but there is always room for improvement.
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                  • NETbilling
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 8598

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Retiree
                    I know ccbill, epoch, segpay, verotel, but can someone recommend anything else? Maybe local ones for certain countries or some alternatives, as mobile billing, etc. Anything that welcomes adult and isn't of those 4 main ones above.
                    We have been serving the adult space (and retail/mainstream too) since 1998 as the longest standing merchant account provider/processor in the industry.

                    Let us know if we can assist.

                    Thanks, Mitch


                    Mitch Farber
                    CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                    Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
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                    • Retiree
                      Life is short
                      • May 2012
                      • 1483

                      #11
                      Originally posted by NETbilling
                      We have been serving the adult space (and retail/mainstream too) since 1998 as the longest standing merchant account provider/processor in the industry.

                      Let us know if we can assist.

                      Thanks, Mitch
                      Hi Mitch,

                      I know about your company, of course. But that is not what I am looking for. Credit cards is what everyone is offering...there is another market with people who have no credit card or even a bank account and still can pay online. Stuff like Boleto in Brazil, Seven Eleven in Mexico and other countries. I am talking over a billion people who nobody in the adult biz seems to care about...so much potential...and yet, only mainstream is offering these options, sadly.
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                      • fuzebox
                        making it rain
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 22352

                        #12
                        I always thought these guys had a cool product. Users can pay cash for a porn membership at a corner grocery store by having the cashier scan a QR code on their phone. Works in a handful of countries

                        https://www.cashtocode.com/

                        https://gfy.com/members/basil-cashtocode/

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                        • NatalieMojoHost
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                          • Aug 2013
                          • 1479

                          #13
                          Wasn't 2000charge alternative billing? There was also Dimoco I think, if I'm spelling that right.

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                          • NETbilling
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 8598

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Retiree
                            Hi Mitch,

                            I know about your company, of course. But that is not what I am looking for. Credit cards is what everyone is offering...there is another market with people who have no credit card or even a bank account and still can pay online. Stuff like Boleto in Brazil, Seven Eleven in Mexico and other countries. I am talking over a billion people who nobody in the adult biz seems to care about...so much potential...and yet, only mainstream is offering these options, sadly.
                            I understand what you re looking for. We specialize in credit/debit as the majority of the world has access to this, those that spend $$ anyway. We have experimented and tested alternative billing in the past, and honestly, the results were minuscule in comparison.


                            Mitch Farber
                            CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                            Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                            Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                            • Retiree
                              Life is short
                              • May 2012
                              • 1483

                              #15
                              Originally posted by NETbilling
                              I understand what you re looking for. We specialize in credit/debit as the majority of the world has access to this, those that spend $$ anyway. We have experimented and tested alternative billing in the past, and honestly, the results were minuscule in comparison.
                              Maybe its worth to look into it again...times are changing and more and more people are using these alternative methods.
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                              • Retiree
                                Life is short
                                • May 2012
                                • 1483

                                #16
                                Originally posted by fuzebox
                                I always thought these guys had a cool product. Users can pay cash for a porn membership at a corner grocery store by having the cashier scan a QR code on their phone. Works in a handful of countries

                                https://www.cashtocode.com/

                                https://gfy.com/members/basil-cashtocode/

                                Originally posted by NatalieMojoHost
                                Wasn't 2000charge alternative billing? There was also Dimoco I think, if I'm spelling that right.
                                Thanks!
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                                • NETbilling
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 8598

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Retiree
                                  Maybe its worth to look into it again...times are changing and more and more people are using these alternative methods.
                                  I disagree. Credit and debit is stronger than ever and cash is used less now than ever before.


                                  Mitch Farber
                                  CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                  Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
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                                  • Retiree
                                    Life is short
                                    • May 2012
                                    • 1483

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by NETbilling
                                    I disagree. Credit and debit is stronger than ever and cash is used less now than ever before.
                                    US only...even in Europe people prefer direct debit over a CC. Latin America...people prefer cash and every other possible alternative other than CC.
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                                    • $tandaman
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                                      • Jun 2001
                                      • 3530

                                      #19
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                                      • Klen
                                        • Aug 2006
                                        • 32235

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Retiree
                                        US only...even in Europe people prefer direct debit over a CC. Latin America...people prefer cash and every other possible alternative other than CC.
                                        Some e commerce stores in CZ support paying by internet banking(tho not all banks, only banks with API capabilities). Tried it once and it went smoothly.

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                                        • plsureking
                                          bored
                                          • Aug 2003
                                          • 4904

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Retiree
                                          US only...even in Europe people prefer direct debit over a CC. Latin America...people prefer cash and every other possible alternative other than CC.
                                          i agree. the biggest commercial market in the world (China) doesn't use Visa/MC. most people in Asia don't use them. everybody in Thailand pays by phone or cash.

                                          if alternative payments were tested, they weren't tested in the markets that want alternative payments. phone payments were 'miniscule' in the US. people don't like ACH for porn either.

                                          i think adult billing in the US is pretty well covered. the OP is looking to bill the 3rd world.

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                                          • Retiree
                                            Life is short
                                            • May 2012
                                            • 1483

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Klen
                                            Some e commerce stores in CZ support paying by internet banking(tho not all banks, only banks with API capabilities). Tried it once and it went smoothly.
                                            Yes and that works in all of the EU now, its simpler for most people, as they have a bank app on their phone and can pay easily, without even looking for a cc.
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                                            • Retiree
                                              Life is short
                                              • May 2012
                                              • 1483

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by plsureking
                                              i agree. the biggest commercial market in the world (China) doesn't use Visa/MC. most people in Asia don't use them. everybody in Thailand pays by phone or cash.

                                              if alternative payments were tested, they weren't tested in the markets that want alternative payments. phone payments were 'miniscule' in the US. people don't like ACH for porn either.

                                              i think adult billing in the US is pretty well covered. the OP is looking to bill the 3rd world.

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                                              • Retiree
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                                                • May 2012
                                                • 1483

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by $tandaman
                                                CentroBill has a ton of alternative options including crypto.
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                                                • XMerchant
                                                  Adult Merchant Accounts
                                                  • Jun 2009
                                                  • 419

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Retiree
                                                  I know ccbill, epoch, segpay, verotel, but can someone recommend anything else? Maybe local ones for certain countries or some alternatives, as mobile billing, etc. Anything that welcomes adult and isn't of those 4 main ones above.
                                                  If you have a US company, we offer direct Visa/MC merchant accounts with a US based bank. Our rates are as low as 4.25%, and you can use any payment gateway such as Authorize.net or PlugNPay. You control your own fraud filtering, so there is no scrubbing on our end.

                                                  A direct merchant account lets you get more approvals, lower rate, and cuts out the middleman!
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                                                  • robmcc
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • May 2013
                                                    • 32

                                                    #26
                                                    Cash payments you have cash2code, Neosurf & paysafecard

                                                    In LATAM you could look at Safetypay
                                                    Alternative billing

                                                    TG - c2crobmcc

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                                                    • Retiree
                                                      Life is short
                                                      • May 2012
                                                      • 1483

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by robmcc
                                                      Cash payments you have cash2code, Neosurf & paysafecard

                                                      In LATAM you could look at Safetypay
                                                      Thanks! 👍

                                                      Anyone from India here? Are these some gateways catering to that market and allowing adult at the same time?
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                                                      • NETbilling
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                        • 8598

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by XMerchant
                                                        If you have a US company, we offer direct Visa/MC merchant accounts with a US based bank. Our rates are as low as 4.25%, and you can use any payment gateway such as Authorize.net or PlugNPay. You control your own fraud filtering, so there is no scrubbing on our end.

                                                        A direct merchant account lets you get more approvals, lower rate, and cuts out the middleman!
                                                        You should partner with us for your direct merchant account gateway setups. Authnet and Plugnpay provide NONE of the specialized tools, features and functionality that adult merchants need. Feel free to hit me up directly or contact our VP of sales Wendy Nelson to become a NETbilling Partner.

                                                        Thanks, Mitch


                                                        Mitch Farber
                                                        CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                        Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
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                                                        • CashtoCode_Gio
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                                                          • Apr 2021
                                                          • 29

                                                          #29
                                                          Thanks for th emention Rob and Fuzebox ;-)

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                                                          • Retiree
                                                            Life is short
                                                            • May 2012
                                                            • 1483

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by CashtoCode_Gio
                                                            Thanks for th emention Rob and Fuzebox ;-)

                                                            We are available with our alternative solutions, get in touch and we'll inform.

                                                            Cheers
                                                            Giovanni
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                                                            • ZENRA
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                                                              • Sep 2016
                                                              • 655

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Retiree
                                                              Thanks! 👍

                                                              Anyone from India here? Are these some gateways catering to that market and allowing adult at the same time?
                                                              I'm also interested in this.
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                                                              • ZENRA
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                                                                • Sep 2016
                                                                • 655

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by NETbilling
                                                                You should partner with us for your direct merchant account gateway setups. Authnet and Plugnpay provide NONE of the specialized tools, features and functionality that adult merchants need. Feel free to hit me up directly or contact our VP of sales Wendy Nelson to become a NETbilling Partner.

                                                                Thanks, Mitch

                                                                I'm still waiting on when NB will add in velocity controls. Feel free to check my email exchange with tech support about this. Authorize.net and I'm sure many other gateways offer it: https://recdesk.zendesk.com/hc/en-us...activate-them-
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                                                                • Basil CashtoCode
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                                                                  • Oct 2021
                                                                  • 61

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                  I always thought these guys had a cool product. Users can pay cash for a porn membership at a corner grocery store by having the cashier scan a QR code on their phone. Works in a handful of countries

                                                                  https://www.cashtocode.com/

                                                                  https://gfy.com/members/basil-cashtocode/
                                                                  Thanks for the mention @fuzebox
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                                                                  • Basil CashtoCode
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                                                                    • Oct 2021
                                                                    • 61

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Retiree
                                                                    Thanks! 👍

                                                                    Anyone from India here? Are these some gateways catering to that market and allowing adult at the same time?
                                                                    Yes India in INR and USD via the open loop eVouhcer. NO CB risks
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                                                                    • Retiree
                                                                      Life is short
                                                                      • May 2012
                                                                      • 1483

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Basil CashtoCode
                                                                      Yes India in INR and USD via the open loop eVouhcer. NO CB risks
                                                                      Thanks. Can you recommend some provider who can take care of the technical stuff and provide a gateway for online payments? Needs to accept adult, obviously.

                                                                      EDIT: Ah sorry, you guys do that, just noticed! lol
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                                                                      • Basil CashtoCode
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                                                                        • Oct 2021
                                                                        • 61

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Retiree
                                                                        Thanks. Can you recommend some provider who can take care of the technical stuff and provide a gateway for online payments? Needs to accept adult, obviously.

                                                                        EDIT: Ah sorry, you guys do that, just noticed! lol
                                                                        Let's take this discussion to Skype and find the best way to move this forward mate.
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                                                                        • Retiree
                                                                          Life is short
                                                                          • May 2012
                                                                          • 1483

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Basil CashtoCode
                                                                          Let's take this discussion to Skype and find the best way to move this forward mate.
                                                                          We will definitely talk next week! 👍
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                                                                          • kuprum
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                                                                            • Oct 2016
                                                                            • 17920

                                                                            #38
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