Ibill Loses European Visas - GoFuckYourself.com

Shap · 05-16-2003, 12:34 AM

Hi Guys. Was reading the Intercept quarterly report and saw some real interesting stuff.

The one thing that may interest some of you here is the following:

"Additionally, we are not able to acquire transactions on behalf of foreign sponsored merchants, unless the transaction is from an acquirer within the sponsored merchant's region. We have established relationships with a foreign bank to serve as iBill's acquiring bank. If we fail to comply with the new Visa rule, Visa may fine our acquiring bank, which will in turn seek indemnification from us. We were notified on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 that our acquiring bank plans to suspend our Visa account on Friday, May 16, allegedly due to our failure to comply with applicable Visa rules. We believe we are in compliance with those Visa rules. This action, if it occurs, will effectively terminate our ability to process Visa transactions in Europe. Those transactions contribute approximately 4-6% of our aggregate merchant processing revenues. We have urged representatives of the bank to withdraw this threat. Although we intend to pursue all available legal remedies for this action, we cannot as a practical matter replace the acquiring bank in this time frame, and we could lose a majority, if not all, of the revenues from our Visa transactions in Europe if the bank follows through with its threatened action. "

Here's the url where i got it from
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/030515/icpt10-q.html

jact · 05-16-2003, 12:36 AM

Damn.

KRL · 05-16-2003, 12:36 AM

Not good. Not good at all. Damn, the noose tightens again.

Danielle · 05-16-2003, 12:40 AM

Not good at all.

Glad we use http://www.geobucks.com and http://www.trafficassistant.com

I'll just set a redirect for all European traffic headed to a iBill sponsor for now. That way I'll still make good money off of the traffic iBill can't bill for now.

Hugs,
Danielle

DyannaDoes · 05-16-2003, 12:41 AM

How shocking . . . LOL

Long time no see, Shap.

EscortBiz · 05-16-2003, 12:42 AM

pretty interesting

quiet · 05-16-2003, 12:43 AM

jesus

AWW - Kevin · 05-16-2003, 12:45 AM

not good

m0rph3us · 05-16-2003, 12:46 AM

the idiocy is blinding..

IBILL thought they were smarter than VISA and let a bunch of sponsored merchants under the table that didn't have an actual presence in the region and now they are bitching. BAH. Serves them right for being fucking idiots and jeopardizing every other EU client.

Paul Markham · 05-16-2003, 12:53 AM

When are we going to hear something good about IBill?

Besides Lensamn saying they are great.

Glad we signed up with Epassporte.

jact · 05-16-2003, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
When are we going to hear something good about IBill?

Besides Lensamn saying they are great.

Glad we signed up with Epassporte.

Epassporte is great, but it doesn't cover you for all your clients, unfortunately. Epassporte is a great as long as you have a (or several) backup processors.

KRL · 05-16-2003, 01:01 AM

Wouldn't you just love to send Mickey and Mallory to Visa's corporate headquarters!

jact · 05-16-2003, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Wouldn't you just love to send Mickey and Mallory to Visa's corporate headquarters!

One word. YES.

m0rph3us · 05-16-2003, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Wouldn't you just love to send Mickey and Mallory to Visa's corporate headquarters!

sorry KRL, but how is this VISA's fault? They laid out the rules last year. IBILL chose to try to go around some of them:

http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/showth...IBILL+ region

Therefore, effective May 22, 2003, iBill Europe will only offer Visa credit card payment services to those merchants based in the European Region.

http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/showth...IBILL+ region

Well what the hell were non EU webmasters doing processing in EU in the first place after cross border aquisition rules were in place ?

adonis · 05-16-2003, 01:08 AM

What if we switch to Visa USA? Do we still lose Visa rebills?
I have still a US company which I setup in November crisis.

quiet · 05-16-2003, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by m0rph3us

sorry KRL, but how is this VISA's fault? They laid out the rules last year. IBILL chose to try to go around some of them:

http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/showth...IBILL+ region

Therefore, effective May 22, 2003, iBill Europe will only offer Visa credit card payment services to those merchants based in the European Region.

http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/showth...IBILL+ region

Well what the hell were non EU webmasters doing processing in EU in the first place after cross border aquisition rules were in place ?

so? the fact that ALL E.U. visa subscriptions/rebills will be lost for everyone who deals with ibill sucks for everyone. period.

the may 22 thing makes sense. this does not.

KRL · 05-16-2003, 01:12 AM

Come on everyone keep your spirits up. It'll all be ok. Things always work out. I can tell its going to be another rainy day on GFY with this wonderful news.

Anybody up for adding Partygoat to the pic?

adonis · 05-16-2003, 01:14 AM

Yesterday, after several hours full of signup, there is zero Ibill signups for 6 hours (Thu. 20pm - Fri. 02am EST)

This is more than bad luck, there must be something related with this Visa problem... How about your sales between these hours? Especially from Visa EU..

KRL · 05-16-2003, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by adonis
Yesterday, after several hours full of signup, there is zero Ibill signups for 6 hours (Thu. 20pm - Fri. 02am EST)

This is more than bad luck, there must be something related with this Visa problem... How about your sales between these hours? Especially from Visa EU..

I feel we need a song courtesy of 60's rock group Blood, Sweat, & Tears.

quiet · 05-16-2003, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by adonis
Yesterday, after several hours full of signup, there is zero Ibill signups for 6 hours (Thu. 20pm - Fri. 02am EST)

This is more than bad luck, there must be something related with this Visa problem... How about your sales between these hours? Especially from Visa EU..

i just went to look. i'm still getting signups, but this is the worst day i've had in roughly 3 years. rebills are normal though.

Shoplifter · 05-16-2003, 01:49 AM

Even if this passes without incident it has all EU Ibill merchants within a hairsbreadth of losing all they have worked for.

Nothing will ever be the same after this, if it happens or not.

I can imagine what the nature of the alleged violation might be, and if it is so expect some other big news very shortly.

And Ibill: you should have had someone here talking about this the moment the filing went public today.

Shoplifter · 05-16-2003, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by adonis
Yesterday, after several hours full of signup, there is zero Ibill signups for 6 hours (Thu. 20pm - Fri. 02am EST)

This is more than bad luck, there must be something related with this Visa problem... How about your sales between these hours? Especially from Visa EU..

Mine have been slow, some big gaps today. Seeing as it is 10 am here in London it might be time to whip out the old card and see if things are actually working.

Anyone want to bet on whether or not Monday's payout comes?

Mr.Fiction · 05-16-2003, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL

I feel we need a song courtesy of 60's rock group Blood, Sweat, & Tears.

<embed src=http://www.members.accessus.net/~xombi/tdf/spinning_wheel/blood_sweat_and_tears.mp3 autostart=false>

If I quote this, will it play twice?

DyannaDoes · 05-16-2003, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

If I quote this, will it play twice?

yes/no

true/false

please choose one.

KRL · 05-16-2003, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

If I quote this, will it play twice?

Yes it does. Hit the stop button on yours to end the echo.

Thanks

Indy the real one · 05-16-2003, 05:14 AM

Tried to buy something with Ibill yesterday from europe and my
visa card was declined....

El Pres · 05-16-2003, 05:24 AM

So what has actually happened,

Is it they have lost their EU processing, or is it that if I'm in the EU and I try to join an IBILL site I can't , even if they process with visa USA.

goBigtime · 05-16-2003, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shap

We were notified on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 that our acquiring bank plans to suspend our Visa account on Friday, May 16, allegedly due to our failure to comply with applicable Visa rules.

We believe we are in compliance with those Visa rules.`

Then they should contact an attorney like Paycom did and FIGHT IT.

I mean WTF they are publicly traded. Show a little respect to your stockholders & fight for your business.

Lane · 05-16-2003, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL

I feel we need a song courtesy of 60's rock group Blood, Sweat, & Tears.

<embed src=http://www.members.accessus.net/~xombi/tdf/spinning_wheel/blood_sweat_and_tears.mp3 autostart=false>

its gonna sound weird now

Pappa · 05-16-2003, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lane

its gonna sound weird now

I have the stereo speakers on full while playing Metallica and then this crap joins in. Didn't mix well tbh. :P

A tad irritating but what the hell....
I'm in a great mood right now. Music is loud and my cold beer is in the fridge.

d0se · 05-16-2003, 06:43 AM

the sky is falling....

haha nice tune..

scoreman · 05-16-2003, 07:39 AM

The EU issue would only affect iBill-EU merchants, it doesnt affect iBill-USA clients. Endusers in Europe with Visa cards are also not affected. We have had all kinds of new joins and rebills since midnight from Europe and with Visa.

scoreman · 05-16-2003, 07:40 AM

Lens, is there any way we can disable these music files? This is ridiculously annoying.

cherrylula · 05-16-2003, 07:52 AM

I hope really bad things happen to Visa and Mastercard. Really horrible and bad things.

El Pres · 05-16-2003, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Danielle
Not good at all.

Glad we use http://www.geobucks.com and http://www.trafficassistant.com

I'll just set a redirect for all European traffic headed to a iBill sponsor for now. That way I'll still make good money off of the traffic iBill can't bill for now.

Hugs,
Danielle

Ibill can bill Europe,
the only thing that isn't going through are the people who process with IBILL EU.

So that's US surfers aswell trying to sign up at a IBILL EU processed site, so geo targetting wouldn't do diddly squat in this case.

tony286 · 05-16-2003, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jact

Epassporte is great, but it doesn't cover you for all your clients, unfortunately. Epassporte is a great as long as you have a (or several) backup processors.

Epassporte is scary,they want a guarantee (if they are collecting the fees for my site they should have the money for their fees)and they want your bank info(the answer I got on this one ,we want it because in the future we maybe adding a function.Why cant you ask for it when you have the function instead of my bank info sitting god knows where). It makes me nervous to give a offshore company my bank info, remember if they can put money in they can take money out. Also bothers me that no body can give a straight answer who owns it, this some of the owners of epoch maybe also be owners of epassporte but I dont know. Thats very weird. Most people are proud of what they own a part of , everybody is being vague. Be careful people

iBill_Service · 05-16-2003, 09:37 AM

So there is no misinformation regarding this topic, we?d like you to know that we are continuing to process EU VISA transactions at this time. We are working toward a resolution of this issue, which affects not only iBill, but IPSPs with a relationship with our EU processor. US merchants are unaffected regarding this issue.

stocktrader23 · 05-16-2003, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by iBill_Service
So there is no misinformation regarding this topic, we?d like you to know that we are continuing to process EU VISA transactions at this time. We are working toward a resolution of this issue, which affects not only iBill, but IPSPs with a relationship with our EU processor. US merchants are unaffected regarding this issue.

You know you could help your company tremendously simply by dropping in for a few minutes a day to touch bases with the people that make you money. It's not fucking rocket science. I'm sure you are just an employee but maybe you can hit your new bosses up with the idea. You'll either get a promotion or fired like the other 40 some odd ex employees.

necoeds · 05-16-2003, 09:49 AM

Damn, this sucks....

corvette... where are ya man... ;-)

iBill_Service · 05-16-2003, 10:13 AM

To avoid any confusion, please be assured US merchants can process domestic and International credit cards as normal.

NETbilling · 05-16-2003, 10:28 AM

Hi,

Sorry about the problems...

In case any EU clients need assistance, we can help establish an EU merchant account for you to process with Netbilling if your monthly volume is over 50k for adult or 10k for mainstream. There is no Visa/Mastercard reg fees at this time but you must have an EU corp.

Interested?

Toll Free within the US: (888)357-8166
Outside the US: (661)252-2456

Thank you, Mitch Farber
ICQ#117496436

goBigtime · 05-16-2003, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by iBill_Service
To avoid any confusion, please be assured US merchants can process domestic and International credit cards as normal.

Another visitor?
Stay awhile, stay forever!
Destroy him, my robots!

Really though...

Ibill-Service does need to dive in and expect to have a very rough 15-30 days (from all the people with pent up IBill anger)... but then after that... it'll be cake once people get to know you.

They'll instantly attack you now because your nameless & faceless. You could even use your real name or make up a cool nickname like Corvette @ CCbill has

But many of your existing and potential 'whales' are swimming around here & you just never know who they might be.

I don't know about everyone else here, but if I was a new or existing member of GFY it wouldn't take me too long to figure out what IPSP's to go with and which ones not to.

Irregardless of everything Intercept is scared of about by having a rep here (like liability for things that rep sais), Ibill really needs to put a consistent, friendly rep on the forums that will stick around, answer questions and follow up with things that he/she sais.

I'm sure the Ibill clients here would appreciate it.

If I have a problem or question with CCbill that I would like to have addressed publicly for all to hear the response of... I know who to yell for.

Master_Yoba · 05-16-2003, 10:34 AM

damn, I feel I need a new processor

Master_Yoba · 05-16-2003, 10:36 AM

iBill_Service, where is Cathy_IBill?

skeet · 05-16-2003, 10:42 AM

Songs that remind me of iBill:

Key lines

"Momma always told me not to look in the eye's on the sun"

"With a boulder my shoulder, feeling kinda older, I tripped the merry-go-round"

"She got down but she never got tired"

Blinded by the Light

[Chorus]: Blinded by the light
revved up like a deuce
Another runner in the night
Blinded by the light
revved up like a deuce
Another runner in the night
Blinded by the light
revved up like a deuce
Another runner in the night (fading)

Madman dummers bummers,
Indians in the summer,
With a teenager diplomat
And the dumps with the mumps
As the adolescent pumps his way into his hat

With a boulder my shoulder,
feeling kinda older,
I tripped the merry-go-round
With this very unpleasin', sneezin' and wheezin,
the calliope crashed to the ground
(pickup)
the calliope crashed to the ground

(chorus)

Some silicon sister with a manager mister
told me I go what it takes.
I'll run you on sonny to something strong
play the song with the funky break

And go-cart Mozart was checkin' out the
weather charts see if it was safe outside
And little Early Burly came by in his curly wurly
and asked me if i needed a ride
(pickup)
asked me if i needed a ride

(chorus)

Bridge: She got down but she never got tired
She's gonna make it to the night
She's gonna make it through the night

(break with soul-stirring solo)

Oh momma that's where the fun is
But momma that's where the fun is
Momma always told me not to look
in the eye's on the sun
But momma that's where the fun is

(chop sticks variation)

So brimstone-baritone, anti-cyclone Rolling Stone
Preacher from the East,
says dethrone the dictaphone, hit it in it's funny bone
thats what they expect at least

It's a new grown chaperon standing in the corner
watching the young girls dance
and some fresh sown moonstone messing with his frozen zone,
only reminding him of romance
(pickup)
and the calliope crashed to the ground

(Chorus)

(Chorus and First Verse)

Now Scott with the sling-shot finally found a tender spot
and throws his lover in the sand
and some blood-shot forget-me-not
said Daddy's within earshot, save the buck-shot, turn up the band

(repeat Verse 2 "Silicon sister with a manager....")
(bridge)

chupacabra · 05-16-2003, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Stay awhile, stay forever!

hahaha! now *that* brought back old memories..!

corvette · 05-16-2003, 11:54 AM

Gobigtime, our Chief Operating Officer wants to know whether the name of that game is ?Mission Impossible? or ?Impossible Mission?

Nostalgia

BJ · 05-16-2003, 11:58 AM

uh this ibill_service fellow is obviously fake. You wont see an ibill rep on an adult message board for obvious reasons

SleazyDream · 05-16-2003, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Indy the real one
Tried to buy something with Ibill yesterday from europe and my
visa card was declined....

that says it all........................

12clicks · 05-16-2003, 12:05 PM

why do I always talk up CCbill and Jettis again? I can't seem to remember but it will come to me eventually.

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05-16-2003, 12:53 AM	#10
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05-16-2003, 12:34 AM	#1
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Ibill Loses European Visas Hi Guys. Was reading the Intercept quarterly report and saw some real interesting stuff. The one thing that may interest some of you here is the following: "Additionally, we are not able to acquire transactions on behalf of foreign sponsored merchants, unless the transaction is from an acquirer within the sponsored merchant's region. We have established relationships with a foreign bank to serve as iBill's acquiring bank. If we fail to comply with the new Visa rule, Visa may fine our acquiring bank, which will in turn seek indemnification from us. We were notified on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 that our acquiring bank plans to suspend our Visa account on Friday, May 16, allegedly due to our failure to comply with applicable Visa rules. We believe we are in compliance with those Visa rules. This action, if it occurs, will effectively terminate our ability to process Visa transactions in Europe. Those transactions contribute approximately 4-6% of our aggregate merchant processing revenues. We have urged representatives of the bank to withdraw this threat. Although we intend to pursue all available legal remedies for this action, we cannot as a practical matter replace the acquiring bank in this time frame, and we could lose a majority, if not all, of the revenues from our Visa transactions in Europe if the bank follows through with its threatened action. " Here's the url where i got it from http://biz.yahoo.com/e/030515/icpt10-q.html

05-16-2003, 12:40 AM	#4
Danielle Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: My Coffin Posts: 1,227	Not good at all. Glad we use http://www.geobucks.com and http://www.trafficassistant.com I'll just set a redirect for all European traffic headed to a iBill sponsor for now. That way I'll still make good money off of the traffic iBill can't bill for now. Hugs, Danielle

05-16-2003, 12:43 AM	#7
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	jesus

05-16-2003, 12:45 AM	#8
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05-16-2003, 12:46 AM	#9
m0rph3us Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Principality of Sealand Posts: 2,033	the idiocy is blinding.. IBILL thought they were smarter than VISA and let a bunch of sponsored merchants under the table that didn't have an actual presence in the region and now they are bitching. BAH. Serves them right for being fucking idiots and jeopardizing every other EU client.

05-16-2003, 01:01 AM	#12
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05-16-2003, 01:08 AM	#15
adonis Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 231	What if we switch to Visa USA? Do we still lose Visa rebills? I have still a US company which I setup in November crisis.

05-16-2003, 01:12 AM	#17
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Come on everyone keep your spirits up. It'll all be ok. Things always work out. I can tell its going to be another rainy day on GFY with this wonderful news. Anybody up for adding Partygoat to the pic? __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

05-16-2003, 01:14 AM	#18
adonis Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 231	Yesterday, after several hours full of signup, there is zero Ibill signups for 6 hours (Thu. 20pm - Fri. 02am EST) This is more than bad luck, there must be something related with this Visa problem... How about your sales between these hours? Especially from Visa EU..

05-16-2003, 01:49 AM	#21
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,730	Even if this passes without incident it has all EU Ibill merchants within a hairsbreadth of losing all they have worked for. Nothing will ever be the same after this, if it happens or not. I can imagine what the nature of the alleged violation might be, and if it is so expect some other big news very shortly. And Ibill: you should have had someone here talking about this the moment the filing went public today.

05-16-2003, 05:14 AM	#26
Indy the real one Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 130	Tried to buy something with Ibill yesterday from europe and my visa card was declined.... __________________ Nothing 2 sale...

05-16-2003, 05:24 AM	#27
El Pres Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Alicante, Spain Posts: 382	So what has actually happened, Is it they have lost their EU processing, or is it that if I'm in the EU and I try to join an IBILL site I can't , even if they process with visa USA. __________________ http://www.sdm-soluciones.com/design/

05-16-2003, 06:43 AM	#31
d0se Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Western Australia Posts: 1,225	the sky is falling.... haha nice tune..

05-16-2003, 07:39 AM	#32
scoreman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,491	The EU issue would only affect iBill-EU merchants, it doesnt affect iBill-USA clients. Endusers in Europe with Visa cards are also not affected. We have had all kinds of new joins and rebills since midnight from Europe and with Visa. __________________

05-16-2003, 07:40 AM	#33
scoreman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,491	Lens, is there any way we can disable these music files? This is ridiculously annoying. __________________

05-16-2003, 07:52 AM	#34
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	I hope really bad things happen to Visa and Mastercard. Really horrible and bad things.

05-16-2003, 09:37 AM	#37
iBill_Service Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 15	So there is no misinformation regarding this topic, we?d like you to know that we are continuing to process EU VISA transactions at this time. We are working toward a resolution of this issue, which affects not only iBill, but IPSPs with a relationship with our EU processor. US merchants are unaffected regarding this issue.

05-16-2003, 09:49 AM	#39
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05-16-2003, 10:13 AM	#40
iBill_Service Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 15	To avoid any confusion, please be assured US merchants can process domestic and International credit cards as normal.

05-16-2003, 10:28 AM	#41
NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,586	Hi, Sorry about the problems... In case any EU clients need assistance, we can help establish an EU merchant account for you to process with Netbilling if your monthly volume is over 50k for adult or 10k for mainstream. There is no Visa/Mastercard reg fees at this time but you must have an EU corp. Interested? Toll Free within the US: (888)357-8166 Outside the US: (661)252-2456 Thank you, Mitch Farber ICQ#117496436 __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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Master_Yoba Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dagobah Posts: 1,273	iBill_Service, where is Cathy_IBill? __________________ WATCH MORE PORN

05-16-2003, 10:42 AM	#45
skeet Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 89	Songs that remind me of iBill: Key lines "Momma always told me not to look in the eye's on the sun" "With a boulder my shoulder, feeling kinda older, I tripped the merry-go-round" "She got down but she never got tired" Blinded by the Light [Chorus]: Blinded by the light revved up like a deuce Another runner in the night Blinded by the light revved up like a deuce Another runner in the night Blinded by the light revved up like a deuce Another runner in the night (fading) Madman dummers bummers, Indians in the summer, With a teenager diplomat And the dumps with the mumps As the adolescent pumps his way into his hat With a boulder my shoulder, feeling kinda older, I tripped the merry-go-round With this very unpleasin', sneezin' and wheezin, the calliope crashed to the ground (pickup) the calliope crashed to the ground (chorus) Some silicon sister with a manager mister told me I go what it takes. I'll run you on sonny to something strong play the song with the funky break And go-cart Mozart was checkin' out the weather charts see if it was safe outside And little Early Burly came by in his curly wurly and asked me if i needed a ride (pickup) asked me if i needed a ride (chorus) Bridge: She got down but she never got tired She's gonna make it to the night She's gonna make it through the night (break with soul-stirring solo) Oh momma that's where the fun is But momma that's where the fun is Momma always told me not to look in the eye's on the sun But momma that's where the fun is (chop sticks variation) So brimstone-baritone, anti-cyclone Rolling Stone Preacher from the East, says dethrone the dictaphone, hit it in it's funny bone thats what they expect at least It's a new grown chaperon standing in the corner watching the young girls dance and some fresh sown moonstone messing with his frozen zone, only reminding him of romance (pickup) and the calliope crashed to the ground (Chorus) (Chorus and First Verse) Now Scott with the sling-shot finally found a tender spot and throws his lover in the sand and some blood-shot forget-me-not said Daddy's within earshot, save the buck-shot, turn up the band (repeat Verse 2 "Silicon sister with a manager....") (bridge)

05-16-2003, 11:54 AM	#47
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	Gobigtime, our Chief Operating Officer wants to know whether the name of that game is ?Mission Impossible? or ?Impossible Mission? Nostalgia __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

05-16-2003, 11:58 AM	#48
BJ Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: asia Posts: 5,590	uh this ibill_service fellow is obviously fake. You wont see an ibill rep on an adult message board for obvious reasons

05-16-2003, 12:05 PM	#50
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	why do I always talk up CCbill and Jettis again? I can't seem to remember but it will come to me eventually. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.