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  • billywatson
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2002
    • 3281
    #1

    The Art of the (pre-checked) cross sale.

    Since I left directing for Dogfart to focus 100% on my sites, the amount of stuff I don't know when it comes to the biz side of growing sites seems to grow exponentially. Ask me to shoot an 18-man blowbang, and I gotcha covered.

    Ask me how to establish and manage recip cross sales, the politics that go into this, what genres work best in the cross sale, how many on the join form, etc etc, and I'm pretty much clueless.

    Anyone have some time and want to give me some insight?

    Much appreciated.

    I Shoot Porn.
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    • ZENRA
      Confirmed User
      • Sep 2016
      • 655
      #2
      Don't offer pre-checked cross-sales if you wish to have happy subscribers.
      ZENRA | Subtitled Japanese AV | @ZENRAMANIAC
      JAV VR Content Manager at SexLikeReal

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        • J. Falcon
          www.AdultCopywriters.com
          • May 2006
          • 31645
          #3
          Pre-checked cross sales are gauranteed refunds.
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            • NALEM
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2010
              • 3164
              #4
              Zendra and J. Falcon are 1000 % correct.
              "The time men spend in trying to impress others they could spend in doing the things by which others would be impressed."

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                • RyuLion
                  ClubDomCash.com
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 32369
                  #5
                  Originally posted by billywatson
                  Since I left directing for Dogfart to focus 100% on my sites, the amount of stuff I don't know when it comes to the biz side of growing sites seems to grow exponentially. Ask me to shoot an 18-man blowbang, and I gotcha covered.

                  Ask me how to establish and manage recip cross sales, the politics that go into this, what genres work best in the cross sale, how many on the join form, etc etc, and I'm pretty much clueless.

                  Anyone have some time and want to give me some insight?

                  Much appreciated.
                  Don't even think of doing pre-checked.
                  You'll lose your merchant account because of chargebacks %.
                  Not even 3rd party billers let you do this.
                  Pre-checked disappeared since around 2010.

                  This doesn't mean you should offer other related discounted sites, or even a discounted rate of your other sites. Cludomcash.com members do check or other sites.
                  ccbill let's you add other sites in the "today's special" area but NOT pre-checked.

                  let me know if you want to do a quick chat, do you run dogfart?
                  alex at ryulion com

                  Adult Biz Consultant A tech head since 1995
                  Affiliate Support: Chaturbate | CCBill Live

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                    • mrpornlive
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2021
                      • 498
                      #6
                      Just DON'T ....
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                        • Roald
                          SecretFriends.com
                          • May 2001
                          • 27910
                          #7
                          Ignore all above and check your Skype.


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                            • blackmonsters
                              Making PHP work
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 20970
                              #8
                              Stop making threads about 2002!



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                                • fuzebox
                                  making it rain
                                  • Oct 2003
                                  • 22352
                                  #9
                                  Threads like these are fun

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                                    • Evil Chris
                                      OG
                                      • Dec 2001
                                      • 13248
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Roald
                                      Ignore all above and check your Skype.
                                      hahaha
                                      love it...


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                                        • The Porn Nerd
                                          Living The Dream
                                          • Jun 2009
                                          • 19787
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Roald
                                          Ignore all above and check your Skype.
                                          Classic Roald!
                                          (Listen to the man and check your Skype)

                                          My Affiliate Programs:
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                                            • mechanicvirus
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2005
                                              • 4219
                                              #12
                                              Ok so this is a gfy thread.

                                              Pre checked cross sales
                                              4 people say one thing against it
                                              4 others 1orglaugh at it
                                              there's levels of smug
                                              there's levels of "lol no one knows what they are talking about" (except me of course)


                                              It has it all!!!!!

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                                                • NALEM
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Nov 2010
                                                  • 3164
                                                  #13
                                                  The only pre-checked sale I would ever "consider" is one that simply upgrades my customer from a single website membership to accessing my in house network of sites, which I full control over ... including the billing.
                                                  "The time men spend in trying to impress others they could spend in doing the things by which others would be impressed."

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                                                    • The Porn Nerd
                                                      Living The Dream
                                                      • Jun 2009
                                                      • 19787
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by NALEM
                                                      The only pre-checked sale I would ever "consider" is one that simply upgrades my customer from a single website membership to accessing my in house network of sites, which I full control over ... including the billing.
                                                      And you own and run how many paysites currently?

                                                      Just wondering.
                                                      My Affiliate Programs:
                                                      Porn Nerd Cash | Porn Showcase | Aggressive Gold

                                                      Over 90 paysites to promote!
                                                      Now on Teams: peabodymedia

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                                                        • bmwracer41
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • May 2013
                                                          • 1526
                                                          #15
                                                          Pre-checks are great when not abused

                                                          You stay in your niche, you have good support to cancel, refund and try to prevent chargebacks

                                                          I have done very well for years with this method, it helps when you have good organic sales to cool mids in trouble

                                                          To me, they make money but also no one mentions here about all the worthless scumbags that beat the system and hit all paysites with chargebacks, we always lose so why not get back those losses

                                                          My crosses still very low c/b ratios, I wish I did hundreds a day
                                                          Label Dollars-Top Converting Games

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                                                            • Rochard
                                                              Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                              • 75733
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by billywatson
                                                              Since I left directing for Dogfart to focus 100% on my sites, the amount of stuff I don't know when it comes to the biz side of growing sites seems to grow exponentially. Ask me to shoot an 18-man blowbang, and I gotcha covered.

                                                              Ask me how to establish and manage recip cross sales, the politics that go into this, what genres work best in the cross sale, how many on the join form, etc etc, and I'm pretty much clueless.

                                                              Anyone have some time and want to give me some insight?

                                                              Much appreciated.
                                                              I've been in this industry for over twenty years and I am still learning....
                                                              Herschel Savage
                                                              Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                • billywatson
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                  • 3281
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by bmwracer41
                                                                  Pre-checks are great when not abused

                                                                  You stay in your niche, you have good support to cancel, refund and try to prevent chargebacks
                                                                  Well it's nice to see some constructive feedback. Thanks!

                                                                  I Shoot Porn.

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                                                                    • billywatson
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                      • 3281
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                      I've been in this industry for over twenty years and I am still learning....
                                                                      Yea man, I just entered my 19th, and I'm with ya Rochard. ALways learning. And never too cool for school.

                                                                      I Shoot Porn.

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                                                                        • billywatson
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                          • 3281
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                          Stop making threads about 2002!



                                                                          Stop wishing you were Dogfart.

                                                                          I Shoot Porn.

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                                                                            • billywatson
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                              • 3281
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                              Threads like these are fun
                                                                              Oh, do I amuse you? Like a clown?

                                                                              I Shoot Porn.

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                                                                                • fuzebox
                                                                                  making it rain
                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                  • 22352
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by billywatson
                                                                                  Oh, do I amuse you? Like a clown?
                                                                                  Hey, I'm a big fan of yours!

                                                                                  It's the replies from people who don't know what they're talking about that amuse me.

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                                                                                    • billywatson
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                      • 3281
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                                      Hey, I'm a big fan of yours!

                                                                                      It's the replies from people who don't know what they're talking about that amuse me.
                                                                                      Thanks dude! You know I'm just being snarky...and trying to figure out how to make it with the sites as opposed to shooting it for someone else.

                                                                                      I Shoot Porn.

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                                                                                        • The Porn Nerd
                                                                                          Living The Dream
                                                                                          • Jun 2009
                                                                                          • 19787
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Hey Billy I am around all next week so hit me up anytime to chat about paysites.
                                                                                          My Affiliate Programs:
                                                                                          Porn Nerd Cash | Porn Showcase | Aggressive Gold

                                                                                          Over 90 paysites to promote!
                                                                                          Now on Teams: peabodymedia

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                                                                                            • blackmonsters
                                                                                              Making PHP work
                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                              • 20970
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by billywatson
                                                                                              Stop wishing you were Dogfart.
                                                                                              On the serious side; I lot of affiliate webmasters complained about cross sales and quit or threatened to quit sending traffic to pay sites that used them.

                                                                                              It seemed to me that affiliate webmaster complaints stop sponsors from using cross sales.

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                                                                                                • 12clicks
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                  • 19813
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Dude, come see me. I’m the only one doing it since the beginning.
                                                                                                  Outside of Fuzebox, there’s no knowledge here
                                                                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                    • 12clicks
                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                      • 19813
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Some might say, I even wrote the book. 😂

                                                                                                      https://www.xbiz.com/features/101838...th-cross-sells
                                                                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                        • 12clicks
                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                                          • 19813
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by RyuLion
                                                                                                          Don't even think of doing pre-checked.
                                                                                                          You'll lose your merchant account because of chargebacks %.
                                                                                                          Not even 3rd party billers let you do this.
                                                                                                          Pre-checked disappeared since around 2010.

                                                                                                          This doesn't mean you should offer other related discounted sites, or even a discounted rate of your other sites. Cludomcash.com members do check or other sites.
                                                                                                          ccbill let's you add other sites in the "today's special" area but NOT pre-checked.

                                                                                                          let me know if you want to do a quick chat, do you run dogfart?
                                                                                                          alex at ryulion com
                                                                                                          And this. 😂😂😂😂😂
                                                                                                          This fucking clown doesn’t know a fucking thing.
                                                                                                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                            • NALEM
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Nov 2010
                                                                                                              • 3164
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                                                              And you own and run how many paysites currently?

                                                                                                              Just wondering.
                                                                                                              Zero. Even though it's been several years, the abuse and risks related to cross selling via pre checks hasn't changed.
                                                                                                              "The time men spend in trying to impress others they could spend in doing the things by which others would be impressed."

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                                                                                                                • 12clicks
                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                  • 19813
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by NALEM
                                                                                                                  Zero. Even though it's been several years, the abuse and risks related to cross selling via pre checks hasn't changed.
                                                                                                                  Dude, stick to taking pictures. You have no clue about actual business
                                                                                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                    • billywatson
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                      • 3281
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                                                      On the serious side; I lot of affiliate webmasters complained about cross sales and quit or threatened to quit sending traffic to pay sites that used them.

                                                                                                                      It seemed to me that affiliate webmaster complaints stop sponsors from using cross sales.

                                                                                                                      Thanks bro. And again, I'm just being snarky.

                                                                                                                      I Shoot Porn.

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                                                                                                                        • billywatson
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                          • 3281
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                                                                          Hey Billy I am around all next week so hit me up anytime to chat about paysites.
                                                                                                                          Hit ya up on Skype

                                                                                                                          I Shoot Porn.

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                                                                                                                            • billywatson
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                              • 3281
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                              Dude, come see me. I’m the only one doing it since the beginning.
                                                                                                                              Outside of Fuzebox, there’s no knowledge here
                                                                                                                              Where should I go? lol I'll bring the 6-pack and a model or two. MILF? Barely-legal?

                                                                                                                              I Shoot Porn.

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                                                                                                                                • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 19813
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by billywatson
                                                                                                                                  Where should I go? lol I'll bring the 6-pack and a model or two. MILF? Barely-legal?
                                                                                                                                  That’s so 2000. 😂
                                                                                                                                  Skype is good enough
                                                                                                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                    • Publisher Bucks
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2018
                                                                                                                                      • 1330
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Rather than utilize cross sales, change the ordering of the membership cost on the join form drop down to maximize profitability.

                                                                                                                                      For example, if you have the following:

                                                                                                                                      3 Day Trial (Recurring to Monthly)
                                                                                                                                      7 Days - $7.97 (Recurring to Monthly)
                                                                                                                                      30 Days - $39.95 (Recurring)
                                                                                                                                      60 Days - $69.97 (Recurring)*
                                                                                                                                      90 Days - $99.95 (Non Recurring)

                                                                                                                                      Instead of listing them in that order, list the highest price point first, using a drop down menu, especially if it is a non-recurring option and even more so if you have the content that will retain that member past the 60 day option.

                                                                                                                                      If you are able to and have the retention, add a higher period, higher priced recurring option too, you'll find that they will likely rebill at the end of 90+ days and just cancel instead of charging back.

                                                                                                                                      Do some research into price points and the psychology of how pricing affects consumers then adjust and play with your price points on a regular basis to find out which one works best for your website, its content and your traffic sources.

                                                                                                                                      Ultimately, what works for one person, may not work for another, A/B testing can be done relatively simply these days and you can gain a wealth of important information and consumer data from testing IF you understand how to use that data to your advantage.

                                                                                                                                      You'll find that you do end up with a couple of refunds using the method above BUT, that is a better option than a pre-checked cross sale chargeback

                                                                                                                                      That isn't to say there isn't a place for pre-checked sales, if they are done correctly, many companies (adult and non) use them on a daily basis and have no issues with them.
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                                                                                                                                        • fuzebox
                                                                                                                                          making it rain
                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 22352
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                          That’s so 2000. 😂

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                                                                                                                                            • billywatson
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 3281
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                              That’s so 2000. 😂
                                                                                                                                              Skype is good enough
                                                                                                                                              Actually probably more 85-ish.

                                                                                                                                              I Shoot Porn.

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                                                                                                                                                • billywatson
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 3281
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Publisher Bucks
                                                                                                                                                  That isn't to say there isn't a place for pre-checked sales, if they are done correctly, many companies (adult and non) use them on a daily basis and have no issues with them.
                                                                                                                                                  thanks for the input! Much appreciated!

                                                                                                                                                  I Shoot Porn.

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                                                                                                                                                    • CaptainHowdy
                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                                      • 94735
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      billy means business .

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                                                                                                                                                        • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 19813
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by billywatson
                                                                                                                                                          Actually probably more 85-ish.
                                                                                                                                                          I’m not saying I wouldn’t be swayed. 😂
                                                                                                                                                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                            • Major (Tom)
                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 32492
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by billywatson
                                                                                                                                                              Since I left directing for Dogfart to focus 100% on my sites, the amount of stuff I don't know when it comes to the biz side of growing sites seems to grow exponentially. Ask me to shoot an 18-man blowbang, and I gotcha covered.

                                                                                                                                                              Ask me how to establish and manage recip cross sales, the politics that go into this, what genres work best in the cross sale, how many on the join form, etc etc, and I'm pretty much clueless.

                                                                                                                                                              Anyone have some time and want to give me some insight?

                                                                                                                                                              Much appreciated.
                                                                                                                                                              Shoot me a pm

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                                                                                                                                                                • Major (Tom)
                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 32492
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by NALEM
                                                                                                                                                                  Zero. Even though it's been several years, the abuse and risks related to cross selling via pre checks hasn't changed.
                                                                                                                                                                  It’s an art, bro.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • MakeMeGrrrrowl
                                                                                                                                                                      Grrrrrrrrr
                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 4986
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                      Dude, stick to taking pictures. You have no clue about actual business
                                                                                                                                                                      That doesn't mean he can't learn. You can learn anything, just depends on your motivation and determination.

                                                                                                                                                                      Let's encourage instead of deflate =)

                                                                                                                                                                      I hope you're doing well over the Mr Clicks

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Major (Tom)
                                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                          • 32492
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl
                                                                                                                                                                          That doesn't mean he can't learn. You can learn anything, just depends on your motivation and determination.

                                                                                                                                                                          Let's encourage instead of deflate =)

                                                                                                                                                                          I hope you're doing well over the Mr Clicks
                                                                                                                                                                          Rancorous Ron pulls no punches!

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                                                                                                                                                                            • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                              • 19813
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl
                                                                                                                                                                              That doesn't mean he can't learn. You can learn anything, just depends on your motivation and determination.

                                                                                                                                                                              Let's encourage instead of deflate =)

                                                                                                                                                                              I hope you're doing well over the Mr Clicks
                                                                                                                                                                              I’ve forgotten more about cross sales than everyone in this thread thinks they know. 😉
                                                                                                                                                                              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Major (Tom)
                                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 32492
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                  I’ve forgotten more about cross sales than everyone in this thread thinks they know. 😉
                                                                                                                                                                                  No lies detected!

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • fuzebox
                                                                                                                                                                                      making it rain
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 22352
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                      I’ve forgotten more about cross sales than everyone in this thread thinks they know. 😉

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • NALEM
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2010
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 3164
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                          Dude, stick to taking pictures. You have no clue about actual business
                                                                                                                                                                                          Stated by someone who has no clue what I do for a living.
                                                                                                                                                                                          "The time men spend in trying to impress others they could spend in doing the things by which others would be impressed."

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • NALEM
                                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2010
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 3164
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by DukeSkywalker
                                                                                                                                                                                              It’s an art, bro.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Duke, I think most don't have the mind and skill set to execute a pre check cross sale properly.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Ideally the cross sale is:

                                                                                                                                                                                              - compliments the existing offering of a product or service

                                                                                                                                                                                              - adds significant value for both the consumer/buyer and the platform owner/seller
                                                                                                                                                                                              (For the site owner they should also gain new customers directly from the alternate site they are pushing)

                                                                                                                                                                                              - the precheck is not hidden/tucked away, but appears boldly as the new main suggested offering

                                                                                                                                                                                              - all parties involved have easy to execute processes to cancel, refund, or credit the buyer in the event they change there mind
                                                                                                                                                                                              nothing wrong with cross sales, but it's risky when it's pre-checked.
                                                                                                                                                                                              "The time men spend in trying to impress others they could spend in doing the things by which others would be impressed."

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Major (Tom)
                                                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 32492
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by NALEM
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Duke, I think most don't have the mind and skill set to execute a pre check cross sale properly.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Ideally the cross sale is:

                                                                                                                                                                                                  - compliments the existing offering of a product or service

                                                                                                                                                                                                  - adds significant value for both the consumer/buyer and the platform owner/seller
                                                                                                                                                                                                  (For the site owner they should also gain new customers directly from the alternate site they are pushing)

                                                                                                                                                                                                  - the precheck is not hidden/tucked away, but appears boldly as the new main suggested offering

                                                                                                                                                                                                  - all parties involved have easy to execute processes to cancel, refund, or credit the buyer in the event they change there mind
                                                                                                                                                                                                  nothing wrong with cross sales, but it's risky when it's pre-checked.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Is it risky? More so than a traditional sale, but the rewards outweigh the risk many times over.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  We proactively refund those who didn’t log in to their x sale

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by NALEM
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Stated by someone who has no clue what I do for a living.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      That speaks much more about whatever it is you do than it does me. 😂
                                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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