Terra.es ???

[DarkJedi]

Hey Lightning,
listen i wanna say something, but don't get mad, i think its just the way things are about free hosts:

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Lightning: "First of all My hosting is one of the largest Free Hosts in the world. We are growing everyday and have a very good reputation in this biz. We are not threatened by any other Free Host, in fact I'm probabally friends with the owners of most of them. "
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Sorry, but I don't think that your free host is so great. 2 reasons:
1. no FTP - wtf ? one of the largest in the world without FTP ? heh....
2. max file size 40 k ?? you gotta be fucking kidding....i'm not going to serve pictures that are thumb size.

Now, I understand that those things are saving you a lot of $$$ but no ftp on a host is simply Lame. Maybe its good enough for newbies who just made their first gallery.
There are many free hosts that are way better (i like freepornspace - FTP, great user friendly banners, etc. I'm not even talking about Smutserver)

Once again, no offence, but I just had to argue with ppl who say that LightningFree kicks ass.


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[This message has been edited by DarkJedi (edited 02-23-2001).]

[Techie Media]

Darkjedi, we are are welcome to our own opinions. I just have to say a few things.
First this post was never started to be about My hosting at all. It's people like you that take a thread that was intended to be informative for everyone, and turn it into a negative pissing match..

Second, max file size of 40K thats not us, what we do is limit the maximum height or width to 600. That's still a big picture.

As for ftp, well thats a security issue I can't go into here. However, I wasn't going to let this out on this type of a thread, but here I go, We are currently working on implementing Zip file uploading, like Porn City has. This is a very equal alternative to ftp, and should be running withen 2 weeks.

Let me end by saying "Go Fuck Yourself"

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[zgorf]

LOL Bake! No comments! I hope the average aussie is smarter than you

Have a good day!

[Jamdin]

The best freehosts are the ones that do not offer ftp in my opinion. They include PornCity, LightningFree & Stynk. The ones that offer ftp seem to have alot of problems with their ftp service (hard to log in, ftp downtime, etc). Adultbest had files limit to 40K & looks like they are gone again.

Anyway, I've been following this terra.es topic on at least three different boards. I'm not surprised that they are starting to turn away adult sites now. There were alot of greedy webmasters who just had to have a site there only because they didn't have banners. Having no baners means one of two things: 1) accounts will eventually be closed, or 2) big ass banners will be on the horizon (case in point, look at x20host.com, who had only a text link at the top & bottom but now have three big ass pics along with only other banners & links).

If you don't like how freehosts operate, that's not a problem since you can get pay host. If you don't like how one freehost operates, that's not a problem either for there are other freehosts out there.



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[DarkJedi]

Well, Lightning, it was not me that started to talk about your free host. I just saw an argument and wanted to share my thoughts.

btw, i use TGSW and ftp is a must have.

Good luck anyways.


[This message has been edited by DarkJedi (edited 02-23-2001).]

[VIP]

They are dutch.....

[VIP]

I'm new wanna be my friend?!
wtf

[Bake]

sorry zgorf
I was to busy makeing more money to watch this BBS all day.
(LOL Bake! No comments! I hope the average aussie is smarter than you) . Mate so do I I,m to busy makeing porn & money drinking beer to run the Country also fuck there only so many hours in a day.I just get pissed at dickheads who who attack people they no nothing about, I think lightning is 1 of the good guys I don't Know much about how he runs his free host so unlike some cunts I keep my mouth shut when I don't know the Facts. You should be off making the most off the last couple of hours left in your Terra.es account. You have shown here buy your actions that you know little of how a business operates and have properly burnt many a bridge buy your stupid words.This bbs is meant to help webmaster earn a living and do some networking I don't see that happening for you now.Now I must get back to selling porn and drinking beer.
1 more thing Lightning look at the brite side this bloke properly has got you the post of the week.He He He LOL
Bake

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[Sloane]

Hey Zgorf, you trying suggest that us Aussies are not very smart! Alls i have to say to that is.. I LIKE ICECREAM!!

[Techie Media]

Bake and Jamdin, thanks for the kind words. Also over at porn city this thread has some comments about terra.es not allowing porn http://bbs.porncity.net/Forum1/HTML/018652.html

Bake I sent you email back. I spoke with Hun and Lightning Free is totally cool with him

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[Lightning]

Hi this is my first time on this board and i love it. I love the name. I don't know much about it, but it seems that Lightning is right on track. The Terra.es does not seem to accept adult sites. I look forward to seeing the true end result to this topic.

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[stangster]

Lightning - I think Hun contacted them alreadly..

I know some people behind that site. They don't mind, trust me. There are links to terra.es in my archives. So they stay up for a long time. I don't know why they don't mind, 'cause they don't seem to advertise a lot on it. Maybe they're doing it for stockholder's value. Sending a lot of bandwidth makes a host look big. That might be the idea behind this. If a host is listed and contacts me they don't want to be listed I remove all links immediately and add them to the blacklist untill the request to be taken off. I can not see if it's a bannerless free host or paid hosting, some people use a free host's URL even when they paid for it and don't have banners.

That was from this post: http://bbs.porncity.net/Forum1/HTML/018513.html

Out of curiosity, just how much is your monthly bandwidth bill?

[Jer]

Well, the Brazilian Terra accepts porn, they answered my email.
They have 2 options: 5 MB free with pop-up banners or 50 MB for who uses their ISP, like I do (ADSL). I just checked this 50MB yesterday (and I use them since July 2000). So I have 50MB

[Jer]

And do you all know who ows Terra ? Telefónica de España, one of the biggest telecomunications company of the world . They have all the bandwidth they want. They are looking for the IPO, the magic word.

I love them as ISP, host and their "content". They ROCK !

Oh, and PT Telecom (the biggest telecom group from Portugal) owns part of Telefonica de Espana. Both of them have BIG opperations here in Brazil.

[Hazen]

Jer, what are you doing here on the boards? It's Carnaval, aren't you sopposed to be out drunk in the streets, partying and getting laid??

[zgorf]

Bake, I just wrote about the real intentions of Lightningfree... if you are too idiot to get it, screw up... mmmmokay?

[Techie Media]

Zgorf, there you go again using my name. If you read this entire post, it is all about trying to find out the real story about terra.es.
Its not about Lightning Free, porn city, Stynk or any other Free Host. You keep going back and trying to make this about my hosting. Also you don't know me or anything about me or my hosting, so kindly keep you slanderish comments to yourself.

Jer, I see what you said, but I'm getting different info then you. If you really got an email from terra, please post it so we can all see their comments. There are several people on the porn city board saying they know just the opposite..

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[Lightning]

Hey Lightning, and most everyone else.
Lightning, I see I came here to this board for the first time just to see you getting messed with. Actually I was interested in finding out the answers about terra just like you were. Sadly a few people here are trying to start a pissing match with you.
Well I have several sites on Lightning Free, and you have been very nice to me. I have needed help several times and you always helped me right away, and you also gave me extra storage space when I asked you for it. Well I sure hope more of you that know Lightning, stick up for him, hes a great guy.
OK Lightning I sent you an email with more mushy stuff, please look for it.


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[Rose]

What is this all about?
Why this turned out against Lightingfree
hosting?I think Jim has one of the best Free
hosting around.
Just my 2 cents

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[oscer]

I dont Think terra.es Should allow the Bannerless Hosting to Just everyone. It is Hurting Alot of the Smaller Freehosts.



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[Jer]

Hazen, like I said in the chat, I do not drink and my gf is far way from me. So I can only go out to the streets.. but if a drunk guy running with his car decide to pass through me? Nah, I think hoem is better.. we have Samba in the TV and nice girls too... although my brunnete girlfriend is more beautiful than any one of them

Lightning, the BRAZILIAN Terra (.com.br) said they allow legal porn, but their "free for all" account have 5 MB and a pop-up banner. Since I use them as my ISP, I have 50 MB bannerless freehosting.

[Jer]

Oh, and we have another bannerless brazilian freehost, but only for people from Brazil. They're one of the biggest comunnities here, owned by the top visited portal.

For you that would like to know how our Carnival is going (and the naked girls)...
http://carnaval.terra.com.br

[Jer]

FUCK ! Wrong URL...

http://carnaval.terra.com (in english)

[Techie Media]

Jer, I see what You are saying, but do you have anything from terra.es that says this. Because on a few threads at Porn city, some people say just the oposite?? So we really need to hear the real story from terra...

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[Jer]

Lightning

I don't have anything from terra.es
terra.com.br said they allow porn, but I don't know if terra.es doesn
And I think terra.com.br terms is the same as terra.es, with the "In particular, but not exclusively, the User undertakes not to use the Service in order to store, distribute, send or disseminate messages the contents of which (a) contravene, undermine or violate fundamental rights or public liberties recognised in the Constitution, in international treaties or in any other legislation; (b) induce, incite or promote criminal, degrading, defamatory, slanderous or violent acts or, in general, acts that are against the law or generally accepted ethics and proper conduct or public order; (c) induce, incite or promote acts, attitudes or ideas that are discriminatory due to gender, race, religion, belief, age or condition; (d) incorporate, make available or allow access to products, elements, messages and/or services that are criminal, violent, pornographic, degrading or, in general, contrary to law, generally accepted ethics and proper conduct or public order; (e) induce or could induce to an unacceptable state of anxiety or fear; (f) induce "

[Techie Media]

askmomma, got it...Your the best. Let me know if you get a reply back from them in spanish and then remember you need to translate it back for us to see.

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[meshell]

Spanish is my native language so I might be able to help here. I went to terra.es and read terms and conditions.
Terra seems to be a free host of the same kind as geocities and the like.
Their terms and conditions specify that pornography is not allowed.
what they mean by pornography (after going to most respected dictionary of the spanish language) is any material related or refering to prostitution or obscene. Obscene they define it as anything offensive to decency.
I would not be surprised if the adult sites hosted there disapeared soon, but then again it is not like they haven't noticed they are hosting such sites so, who knows why they haven't yet or if they ever will. But their terms are clear and if I had bumped into terra (without knowing there are a few who do host their adult sites or galleries there)and read their terms and conditions I would have never posted an adult site there.
I hope it helps.
Enjoy

[Gemini]

I guess my question still stands. Why bother to argue the point? If a site is in question as to handling adult, walk away if you don't have a confirmed answer. If you are too tight to pay for hosting to rid yourselves of ads...

Why argue the rights?? People who argue that right are usually wrong. There are just too darn many freehosts that you KNOW allow adult content.

Clue, you'll never get rich with that attitude. lol But you may end up with a lawsuit! Recent decision for Allysa Milano against a smalltime webmaster with a gifted Photoshop ability...230K. Sheesh why be stupid and try? It always comes back on you. Trust me, I have the age thing on 98% if not more of you here. And *I* don't wanna pay the rest of my life for someone other than my own kids Porsche. The above smalltimer will be paying the rest of his life.

Think you won't get caught by the law? lmao It always comes back one way or the other. Build yourself up thru freehosting if need be but never put yourself in the wrong place. A quick 30 bucks against 30K is just ludicrious.

Lightnings service could use some pointers just as any could. But the point being there is Lightnings kids have that nasty habit of wanting heat, light and food. No one on this Earth owes anyone a d*mned thing. Work for it or get out and pump gas for a living. I am SO tired of whiners complaining about their rights. Sheesh.

Jim this isn't meant as a direct affront on you by any means. We understand alot more than most of these webmasters on security etc and agree with you on that end. Imagine how much whining you'd hear if they got hacked up alot more often. Suicide would be preferably. lol

[zgorf]

I meant lightning not lightningfree. sorry about that.

[Susan]

And you wonder why the industry has a bad name. What a fucking disgrace.

[Susan]

I had missed this topic. A good thing as now I can see just how many people here have hypocritical double standards. Make the most of it guys, you keep knocking those nails in our coffin because the undertaker is digging one hell of fucking deep hole.

[Jer]

When I sent the email to the brazilian terra asking about the "pornographic" in their trems & conditions, they said that sex and nude pictures is permited.

Just looked there, the terms in portuguese and spanish are the same (I just love spanish ). So only if the spanish Terra guys has different point of view about that term than the guys from brazilian Terra.

But I save my ass, hehe.

[Techie Media]

Gemini, no offense taken, You know I love and respect you and hubby.

Susan, please don't be shy, we welcome the opinions of everyone..

Now Meshelle, You are a sweetheart for interpeting their rules for me.. You seem to always help me out, You are truly a 1 of a kind girl.. You know I love you sweetie.

ask momma, i got your translation also. Yup I love ya too.

Zgorf, now it seems like our arguing is coming to an end, (boy I'm happy about that).
It seems there is still some confusion about terra.es
But it does look like they are not really an aduld host, atleast in the spanish version..

like some people have stated though, what will happen to all the adult sites that are up on them now, if terra decides to get their act together and inforce their non adult policies??
This will be interesting to see.

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[Jer]

Lightning is right, if I were you I would use terra.es only if they answer your email saying that they allow adult content.

I'll use the terra Br because I already asked them.

[Lightning]

OK Lightning or anyone else, it does seem that terra.es doesnt really allow adult sites. What should I do with my site there??
What will some of you others do??


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[Gemini]

For the people with sites on their servers... Move to lightningfree and simply put a changed locations page up. Not a redirect!! Terre won't rip your site down for that and you should still get most of your traffic. A redirect would prob be viewed as porn since thats where it would go. But a a simple note should be allowable!

Boy that one will cost ya Lightning!

[Tanker]

Lightning Free YOU ROCK

cant say i have seen a better host

[jody_anal]

I just signed up for a terra account, and discovered that I couldn't upload to their FTP.

"Server closed control connection.
Data Connection closed"

Is this to only allow people, using their dialed internet service, to use their webspace?

Can anyone explain?

[bearbelly]

I didn't read the whole thread, but terra.es certainly isn't losing money by hosting all of these adult sites, I can assure you that.

Anyways, it's the same sense as napster. Having a large database increses stock value, and other aspects of their company. Do you think napster is a billion dollar company because of the little cd now banner that they have advertised when people download music. Of course not. If you looked at napster during its peak, there wasn't one single banner on the main site. They base their money around having people invest in the company etc. I don't know what I'm talking about to a good exstent, but I have heard many times again that having a large database, and using up the bandwidth increases their value a lot.

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