Anyone with them?
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Anyone hate them?
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I use them. They have been great up untill 2 weeks ago. Then signups dropped, but its the same with all sponsors.
Give them a try.
Wildman.
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I was doing very well with them up until a few months ago when they raised their memberships from $29 a month to $39 a month and that's when my signups fell out the bottom. I even had some good recurring and they have all dropped out too.
Tam
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I used to make good money with them, but they were paying $25 when everyone else was paying more so I gradually faded them out.
Never had any probs with them though, and if you're making little free sites as a profession they kick ass on content.Comment
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Did they change hands? I don't know if Bill is running it anymore.Comment
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Well if they did, Lens, that would sure as shit explain alot of things. lol
Tam
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Bill's still running it.Comment
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No Diamond Jim is running it now. He's very savvy with member retention so that's probably why you saw the monthly fee go up. I guarantee it will be more money in your pocket in the long run. Bill was definately top notch and certainly no dummy. He would only put his "baby" in good hands like those of Jims
We send quite a bit of traffic and are extremely happy with the results
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Hey peeps...
Quick address of a couple things - Signups have been down for the last couple weeks. Anybody that sends traffic to sponsors using Ibill can guess why. :P~ The good news is it appears they've pulled their head out because Sunday was back to normal and today looks on target also.
re: the change of pricing to $39.95 - Bill changed that WAY back in October and I've noticed many sponsors raising their price to the same level. The good news is, if you don't like it, I'm designing a system that will let you send to either price point you prefer... $29.95 or $39.95. Whichever you think works best for you. Should be ready this month.
PMB is rolling along as always. We have new sites coming out this month including - fat, mature, black, tranny, pornstar, toons and some others. Looking to help anybody that wants to try their hand at some recurring.
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Has Red or Web Mistress got an account with these guys then - I feel like signing up...Comment
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Jim,
Can't say that I'm the biggest fan of recurring programs, after trying your Fetish Cash recurring program, Sweet Loads and a few others, I've come to the conclusion that recurring sucks.
To be quite frank, I couldn't give two shits whether the member recurs and earns the sponsor $479.90 over 12 months time of which I get a $35 cut - because, I just can't work with recurring programs. I'm sure that the surfers know whether I'm on a p/signup or recurring program. I've used many many many per signup sponsors (of which I must say... Fetish Cash is far by the best) and never been dropped from any of them - which leads me to one conclusion: I'm recurring enough members for the sponsor to make a profit and be happy, meaning that my account is safe.
But, when I use a recurring program, only 2/10 guys don't cancel - and I've never ever seen a member stay for more than a month with either Fetish Cash recurring or Sweet Loads.
Though I'm not one to give up easy, I'm trying Cash Tour at the moment - I'm hoping that Lensman's sites will be able to change my views on recurring once and for all.
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I just started getting a few small cheques from them, I can't even remember where I even placed the links must be a 404 page or avs site somewhere, that I built 10-12 months ago :P
anyways they have always had a good reputation
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Hmm guess I missed the change in ownership. Was kinda curious how Diamond Jim ended up with them Anybody want to fill me in?
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Jim how bout Your Niche Pay site? Gonna breath some life into that puppy a bit? Great idea and program and I think its yours?
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Shooter, it's a long story...lol.
Washiez, I'll definitely be picking up on YNP some more as soon as a couple other things are completed. What blows me away with YNP is the recurring. To my mind, YNP should recur LESS than anything else because it's not specific, but for some stupid reason it outperforms everything else by anywhere from 7-10%. Ridiculous. :P~
ldinternet, if you don't have good luck with recurring programs I'd have to agree you shouldn't use them. Let me give you my thoughts, though...
The reason many sponsors pay per signup is because they know the money is in the recurring. There's no getting around that fact. They aren't paying $30 a signup out of love for webmasters. People that pay recurring do so usually for 2 reasons..they can't afford to pay per signup (not a pornmegabucks.com problem, I assure you), or they don't want to deal with the hassle of cheating webmasters, as revshare is rarely cheated. Long term, it is my firm belief you will always do better with recurring, but NOT if you are converting trial to full membership at 20%. That's just crazy...if you aren't getting 40%+, something is weird.
Having said all that, I'm open to paying $30 per trial on PMB sites. I am MORE than willing to take the recurring myself. If there's enough interest, I'll set it up!
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Recurring take a bit longer to get started, but all my recurring programs and partnerships make me a lot more money than pay per signs or pay per clicks...Comment
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Jim,
If I can send a member to Smother, you keep him for 12 months and make $400+ off of him... then good luck to you! But I must admit, I'm still more than happy with my $35 per signup no matter how long you can recur him for. I just don't like recurring, like I said... it doesn't work to me. Clearly the biggest guys run paysites because that is where the money is - but recurring members... I just can't seem to do it. Maybe I'll try again in 6 to 8 months time. So far this month, I've lost near $500 from members that didn't recur - that is, if I would have been on per signup, I would have been near $500 better off - that is from old tgp galleries, so maybe the traffic is shit. Like I said... I've never been kicked from a p/signup sponsor for poor recurrings, ever... so maybe I'm doing something wrong, I don't know. I've looked into pornmegabucks.com in the past as a sponsor, and been put off by the fact that it is a recurring revenue program. Develop a per signup program, and I'll be sure to check it out.
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Definitely would be interested in a per sign-up prog from PMB.Comment
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Even though this is a bump from days gone by, I just thought I'd add that Bill is back at the helm of PNB. Lisa is runs the webmaster service and she's the best!
Plus I wanted to make my 1000th post on a thread devoted to a good sponsor.
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