very useful list .. i know where i buy my next traffic package ;)

i sale good hitz

Their traffic did not click, except for a couple times when a spanish ip clicked like a human could not for 15 minutes, until I blocked it in my htacess.

Well, I guess there you go Penn :) It is funny as hell, huh?

AST

I bet you'really glad that you got in here to read this thread before you totally wasted over $300.00.

Hell, I hope everyone gets to find out before they burn their money up like this..:)

It was worth the $320.00 that I totally WASTED to bring it public. Please refer all your friends to this thread :BangBang:

It's really hard to sit back and watch a slanderer with nothing else to do (because he's sure not making any money) continue to try and drag our name through the mud.

Here are the facts:

1. Perl Mountain is a cheap $.02 reseller and nothing more. Did he mention that he bought traffic from us as a reseller in the past? Bet he didn't mention that, did he? If we were so bad then why would he buy our traffic as our reseller? I'll tell you why, because he's a jealous person that' not successful (he can't even afford to advertise anywhere) and he envies our company.

2. Perl Mountain attempted to steal $45,000.00 from us like he's stolen from other people before in the past. He knows that we are a fair size company and since we've spoken before, he tried to pull the same scam on us as he did with other people.

3. We only sent a few thousand clicks to the Choker link, Perl Mountain sent the rest from his traffic program, not ours. He was listed on Choker with HIS website, not ours. Once he saw how crappy HIS traffic was, he tried to push the blame on us and say it was our traffic. We stopped sending traffic to the Choker link but traffic was still flowing in. Choker contacted him about it and it was Perl Mountain who was sending hitbot traffic, not us. Choker changed Adult-Site-Traffic on his page to UCumSeeMe afterwards. We're thinking of building a CockSuckinMen.com and featuring Choker with Perl Mountain (Who will suck whom? We'll let them decide).

4. Choker makes many claims about our traffic yet he doesn't even know where the traffic came from! It surely wasn't from us because 88% of it was from traffic supplied by Perl Mountain exclusively.

5. If Choker or Perl Mountain can prove that we originated the hitbot traffic then we will pay them $100,000.00 USD. It's that simple, enough said. We stand behind our traffic our company and more importantly, the satisfaction of our customers.

6. Choker nor Perl Mountain attend Internext conventions like we do. Is it they can't go or they are too poor to afford it? I don't know and I don't care but we'll see our friends in Florida again this year at Internext.

7. Lastly, you see how difficult it is to be the Leader in Direct Adult Traffic. Scum from all over the earth collaborate to try to smear your name in mud in order to steal your loyal customers. Our customers laugh at their allegations, our resellers laugh at their allegations and we too laugh at their slanderous lies.

8. I have money to make now, good riddance to this thread because it's a waste of time. Although I said I wouldn't post here again, I just could not let the human fecal matter continue to lie to you all.

UCumSeeMe.com, The Leader in Direct Adult Traffic.

They torment us as they did Jesus.....

Hey Buddy - thanks for the review.

Much appreciated.

Are you able to point us in the right direction for gay traffic only?
b

Wait.

So Adult Site Traffic bought UCumSeeMe traffic and was going to send that traffic to Choker under his own name.

If the traffic did well, Adult Site Traffic would have taken the credit, but since the traffic did horribly, he had the source changed to where he bought the traffic from?

Pretty slimey, eh?

He mixed it with his traffic too and used us as his "Ace Card" just in case his traffic didn't score well. That's the kind of company you guys buy your traffic from?

May God have mercy on your soul if your answer is "yes".

TurboFace is the man that you need to speak to. Top notch guy, top notch traffic.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Helpful list Choker. :thumbsup

Well Penn, you can always send me some traffic and i'll post how well it does.

If your traffic is good then I don't see why you wouldn't pick a few people out to get maybe 10-15k hits each to prove where it comes from and that it's quality.

this thread reminds me why I choose not to deal with too many people

bashing eachother gets you nowhere

Perl Mountain isn't the only one who has been complaining. I've bought from him, and while I didn't get the greatest traffic in the world it was ok.

I've also bought from you guys, and the traffic was COMPLETELY USELESS. Now, I might have been unlucky - I didn't buy much, so that's always a possibility. However from all the other people who have posted here complaining about your traffic, that seems unlikely.

Contrary to Choker and Perl Mountain, I don't sell traffic, so don't even try to pretend that I'm posting this for my own gain. I do however buy traffic, and I've tested quite a few traffic sources. Yours is by far the worst I've tried.

I love Chokers traffic, and I've had good luck with Adult Traders, and I'll be testing more of the services on Chokers list. And though, as I mentioned, Perl Mountain's traffic wasn't the best I've tried, it was sufficiently good that I might buy from him again too.

Your traffic on the other hand didn't make an impact on my site AT ALL. Most of the "surfers" never even let the page load properly. Now that can be due to too aggressive use of pop-up's etc. that trigger people to close the window instantly, or it could easily be a hitbot (though I will say that I haven't tried to verify that, so that is just a possibility, not an accusation).

I use a couple of counters, as well as having my homegrown trade script track traffic and, the web logs themselves. Since the counters are far down on the page, the difference between the various tracking methods is a very god indication of how large percentage of the surfers let the page load. For your traffic it was less than 20%.

Productivity was less than 5%.

Maybe you should address the problems with your traffic instead of attacking your customers. If you filter your traffic and clean it up, and let someone trustworthy (like Choker) test the traffic, then maybe some of us here will be willing to try you again.

As it stands, however, I see your traffic as a complete waste of money.

Hi,

We've done that already and one complaint out of all the persons that we sent traffic to. There's always going to be one bad apple out of the bunch, you can't do too much about that except try to work with them. Customer satisfaction is #1 at UCumSeeMe.com Marketing and if the customer is ever unhappy, we do whatever needs to be done to make him or her happy.

I have money to make now, gotta go.

BUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNN.

Sorry you feel this way but contact us at TrafficSupport at UCumSeeMe.com and we'll look into this for you and resend you traffic accordingly. How many visitors did you buy from us? What is your username? I need this to prove that you actually bought traffic from us and that your story is indeed authentic.

Thanks :thumbsup

If this other guy is such the liar and it was his traffic not yours that sucked send some to Choker on your own name. Until then, enjoy the benefits of a country where someone can say you suck if that's what they think.

I guess that would be complaint number 2 in all your years as a traffic broker. Better edit your post from 1 complaint ever to at least 2.

Hi,

I just located your account and I've added 10,000 visitors to your account for FREE. I wish you better success and thank you for your initial business.



Penn

Who has bought it that actually knows people? That will vouch for it?

Thank you for that. If this traffic actually does perform better I will make sure to post an update.

UCumSeeMe should setup an account with Choker and send traffic directly. Maybe the results will be the same, maybe they won't, but right now no one knows for sure.

Adult Site Traffic should be put back up as the name on the first account, since that is in fact the type of traffic AST sends, and that was the point of this broker listing I thought...showing what type of traffic you can expect from a broker.

Some likely are, some aren't. Same with any area of the industry, design brokers, cheating affiliates etc. Good and bad everywhere.



This thread is a prime example of why I'll stick with promoting only traffic sources that I know and trust. The partnerships I've worked out with the traffic sources on my page have all been earned by each source. How? They sent me traffic and I evalutated it through my own network of free sites. I deal only in clicked traffic, and have yet to have even one complaint. All this crap about hitbots and traffic showing no referring urls etc.... I have no use for any of it.

That is a fantastic idea and we WELCOME THE CHALLENGE!

Choker, send an email to TrafficSupport at UCumSeeMe.com with linkcode and instructions. We'll put an end to these slanderous lies once and for all, let the truth be known!

"Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free"
-- Jesus in John 8:32

Now that's customer service. Not to many brokers do this. Well Sexzity has and I even called Adbuy on it once. Another brokers does it, but if I mention the name you guys get all upset and call me schizophrenic and shit. So I won't mention the company. But when guys do this it means they stand behind there traffic and the customer relations. I enjoy doing business with companies who practice customer satisfaction. :thumbsup

Interesting.

A porn traffic broker that quotes the bible.
Just that alone scares me away.

This is the real popcorn thread..shit, drama

:glugglug

Okay, I am a bit confused here. I just read this entire thread and see a number of different people saying the EXACT same thing, about the no referers thing. And this company is saying that Adult Site Traffic sent his own traffic with no referers.

I really want to know how seeing as It is hardcoded in adult site traffics script to append ?AST to all sent traffic. It also always sends a referer.

I smell bullshit.

I change my mind..this is the biggest popcorn Ive ever seen...--->

drama


:glugglug

what is Nunya1 and Nunya2 ??

I smell it too. Why did he buy traffic from us, mix it with his and publish HIMSELF as the source of the traffic? Why did he then ask Choker to change his name to OUR NAME and say that we sent the traffic exclusively? Better yet, why did Choker change the name to us when Perl Mountain sent the traffic? Even better, since Perl Mountain publicy acknowledges that he's nothing more than a $.02 reseller, any traffic that comes from him would be from someone else, right? Since that's the case, shouldn't his name have stayed on the report regardless? I smell the bullshit too, it's on the sole of my shoe and it looks and smells like Perl Mountain.

Our traffic does have a referrer code. Like I said earlier, we're more than happy to signup with Choker himself and put this mess to a closure. I, like you did not personally see any server logs nor have any detailed information on the alleged traffic from us.

Anyone that's commented before based on their rhetoric validates why abortion should be legalized and why the American education system sucks (they never learned how to read correctly).

Go make some money or something people, geesh!




Penn

Do we have a name change?

--> UcumNeverSeeMe.com



:glugglug

You are an excellent of example of why abortion should be legalized! Go make some money or something.

Penn E Less You missed the point altogether. I know for a fact any traffic that passes thru his system is appended with ?AST. His traffic is easy to spot due to this. He also asked for that to BE appended so people knew which traffic was his. It is hardcoded into the script.

You however admittedly sent the traffic he paid for and had you send DIRECTLY to chokers unique url. And according to choker that traffic had no referers, the same as a number of other people said.

Choker: Kudo's on the leaders page. Very helpful indeed.

My thoughts too... :glugglug

:1orglaugh had to quote that one

I'm officially done with this thread. When Choker contacts us we'll send traffic to his URL and we'll put a rest to this nonsense.

For the rest of you naysayers and idiots who continuously spew rhetoric from your lips, go in your garage, get in your car, turn it on and take a nap in the drivers seat. :BangBang:



Penn

A thread like this is why I'm willing to sift through all of the bullshit. I've caught little nuggets of information in threads that are still making me money..

Since I regularly buy traffic from choker, I know that I can trust this list...And I'm for damn sure going to be spending some money with them in my traffic budget next month...

Actually i seldom comment on anything anymore unless i know for a fact what im saying is correct.

Seeing as we developed his system, I can say I know for a fact how his traffic is sent. And seeing as you ADMITTEDLY sent directly to chokers unique url, I can say for a fact that it was your traffic with no referers.

Case closed. Move on. Make money.

But like many others, I do know where i will NOT be buying traffic from.

Wow...Choker...i would like to talk to you about buying some exit traffic..hit me up on icq..so i can give you a call.

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Wow, you're a programmer. Must be one of those smart guys, eh? One of those logical thinking type of characters as well too, eh?

Well, if the turd bought traffic from us then isn't it quite feasible that he bought traffic from someone else as well and sent it to Choker, right? We didn't send much so the rest of that traffic didn't come from us and I don't know who it came from. If you don't personally have proof that we sent it, how in the hell can you make such a statement to us? Oh, you're a logical thinker, a Perl programmer.

I know who won't program anything for us :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh . I'd rather spend my pesos on an Indian development company offshore, at least they have the brains and can think "logically" about possibilities instead of stuffing their foot in their mouths.

How's the commodity programmers these days? Better not spend that $40k you make in one place because your jobs are going offshore pal.


The money counter is jammed again, gotta go.

Excellent post :thumbsup

Still those clicks have no match of what chockers traffic creates!!

I get over 600% prod from his traffic, at $7/k it may be a lot but its great!!!!!!!!!


Once again great post!

Can anyone explain to me, why a broker should send unprod. hitbot traffic?

I trust Penn E. Less and i don't thing he would ever try to cheat anyone.

Why thank you.

What part of ALL traffic that passes thru his system is appended with ?AST did you not understand exactly?

You already admitted you sent the traffic he paid for directly to choker, and choker says it had no referers, so why are you still trying to spin this off? You gave the proof from your OWN post.


They the ones who coded the rather simple proxy sender?
I'm impressed.

Dude, YOU spilled the beans on yourself. Stop trying to cover it up now, posts dont magically disapear. Everyone can back read this thread fully and know the truth.

Sexzity, nobody said he was trying to cheat anyone. They just said his traffic was unproductive as hell.