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This is a beautiful post. Thanks Liz. I feel like you do. Nice to see another follower of her loveliness who's not afraid to show it. Do you have icq?

Damn, I love you ladies.

I could be all mushy and gooey and say something about the innerbeauty of woman here, but I'll let my libido do the talking and say that i find heavier women just as hot (in many cases hotter) than "fit" ones.

I'm a heavy chick myself, and can't help but appreciate heavier women. Some days I have a real problem with being heavy, and other days I'm just fine with it. I figure surely if I weren't attractive, I wouldn't have gotten married to a man who deigned to live with me for two years prior.

Much love to the bigger ladies. :thumbsup

Yep, I have ICQ, the number is in my sig. My cable connection keeps dropping on and off for me, so consequently I'm on and off ICQ. My status says "away", and I leave it like that all the time, so go ahead and ICQ me if you want. It may take me a minute or two to get back to you if I'm on, and if you don't hear from me after 20 min or so I've probably gone to bed.

Look forward to chatting with you!

Okay, I gotta post :-)

Im a BBW, I love my body, and I love my girls to me around my size and shape. :-) Men, I run the entire spectrum of what I like, from itty bitty skinny guys that I want to break, to frat boy types, to BHM.

Mandy, you going to Internext? We should meet up :-) Are you attending the Amateur Roundtable?

I never felt comfortable with my size until I started dating a few guys that loved my ass. Then I got hooked up with Jenmarie of curvycash (see sig) and the pictures that I took for her turned out awesome!

sorry it took me so long to reply, I posted that just before I went to bed.

Okay, is it evil to give your gf food? Of course not and in anycase I was using evil very loosley. What I was reffering to in my article was Feederism which any BBW here that has moved around the BBW community long enough will have encountered. If you want to eat and get bigger - bully for you.

I am all about size acceptance and that means being happy with yourself regardless of size. So, I think the ultra skinny women should love themselves just as much as I think the really really big women should. What I don't like (and of course this is my personal opinion) is the guys that message me wanting to force feed me until I am so large I have mobility problems. You may say there aren't many that want to do that but trust me you would be suprised.

As I said my article part of my dislike of it is wanting to change me. It would be just like a BF getting off on strapping me to a chair and wiring my jaw shut until I lost massive amounts of weight. For me, I don't understand how it is sexy.

That said, I have a number of friends that find it sexy and good on them if it gets them off and both are willing parties. The problem is that there is often a very predetory nature to the feeders. See, 'coming of age' of a BBW is usually a progressive thing.

Few women are born with the confidence of the BBWs you are seeing poting here. Most start out as that fat girl in school that gets made fun of everyday and who has been told throughout her life that she will never get a man.

So, one day she discovers the BBW community of the size acceptance movement and somehting makes her dip her toe into the world. Still, she convinces herself that she could never feel about herself the way 'those women' do. She looks on with a slight bit of envy, especially when she hears and sees the men they are with and how desired they are. Slowly she moved into the world, walks a little bit more upright, holds her head that little bit higher and suddenly she starts getting nibbles from men.

Oh boy, new world here - she might not be all that undesired after all. Yet, in the back of her head she is still convincing herself that she will fall short of what *even* these men want. Then she gets messaged or chatted up by a guy who can't stop telling her how wonderful she looks. He gets her confidence, she is doing mental back flips and then the feeding subject comes up.

Of course she will do it because she loves him, fancies him or just plain doesn't want to be rejected (again). Some of the feeders (and yes of course not all of them, I have met some lovely guys into it) can smell that lack of confidence a mile off and use it to find women that will let them force feed them.

So, yes unless the photographer really doesn't have any knowledge of the BBW niche/community then pics of BBWs eating is a nod to the feeder world. Is that wrong? No, not really. As you said, it is a large fetish and it is there to be exploited. I am not saying anyone shouldn't promote it. I am just saying that on a personal level as someone who has had feeders sniff around me on more than one ocassion that I don't like the fetish.

Checks to see if there are any other Sara/h's in this thread. Sorry if there is and I am reading wrong but thank you both :)

Thanks ladies for the words of wisdom and emotional support. I think I may just need to sit down with myself and give 'me' a good talking to. Once I sort my head out, my heart will follow.


Sarah - After reading this thread, I'm sure you'll identify with this. WHY WHY WHY do the high street retailers make all the nice clothes for the thin bitches? DP sometimes do a few nicer things and Debenham's new Designer range is ok more often than not too but Evans and Etam are just horrible! Why do they think we want to wear big floaty things that cover the little shape we have rather than designing clothes that enhance our curves? There is a new catalogue they've been plugging on the tele - Simply Be - I may have to get one and see if they are any better. I have considered blowing up my local TopShop on more than one occasion!:winkwink: :ak47: most high street clothing retailers

Well, I can most certainly understand your dislike for that type of feeding. Wanting to change a person is almost always a bad thing, and something like force-feeding is one of the worst exponents of that.

However, you seem to be overlooking that there is also a completely different side to food and bbw (plural?) that doesn't even touch on this subject, that even might be the complete opposite.

Food is enjoyable. A large, cheesy pizza, or a big juicy steak, or a large piece of french bread with roast beef and eggs, or maybe italian bread with chorizo, mozzarella and pesto - yummy to all of them.

Society has tried to make food taboo. A "real" woman doesn't eat two pizza's, or a pound of roast beef, or an entire french bread with petrella. Instead, she eats a tiny salad with a glass of mineral water, and complains about her weight and her illusionary "huge" ass. That sucks.

To me, there is nothing more attractive than a woman who says "fuck you" to society, and just enjoys food because she likes it. Not because she wants to get fatter, not because she wants to get thinner, but simply because she likes eating.

In many cases, bbw is also associated with that. Not with the fat chick timidly looking around while she's eating a twinkie, but with the plump, sexy, confident woman who's happily eating a large steak while drinking down a pint of beer.

Well, I know next to nothing about shopping anywhere but in the US, and my cheap-ass self mostly shops at Wal-Mart/Target/Fashion Bug simply because I don't leave the house often enough to justify fancy clothes, but I totally agree with you about all the nice clothes being made for thinner women.

My pet peeves with shopping for clothes as a size 24:

-- All I want is a pair of shorts that aren't printed with cabbage roses or technicolor-yawn Hawaiian prints, goddammit -- I KNOW my ass is big, and I don't want to make myself look like a fucking reupholstered sofa.

-- I want dresses that show off my figure, like Beastiepoo said, and not look like Omar the Tentmaker put them on clearance. I have a small waist, and I'll be damned if I'm going to cover it up.

-- I want a swimsuit that doesn't have any of the following: a skirt or goddess help me, a SKORT; big-ass bows on the boobs or butt; no polka-dots, I am not your maiden Aunt Esther; more of the aforementioned godawful Hawaiian prints. I work out three times a week, in the pool, and I want a nice, simple, athletic-style swimsuit that doesn't make me look like I'm wearing a fucking Victorian bathing costume. If people get upset by the fat chick showing some skin, they can fucking well look away.

-- I want lingerie that doesn't look like I'm about to take out my teeth and hop into bed with my senile husband...most nightgowns I can actually look at in a physical store around here are of the cotton housecoat and muumuu variety. I f I want something sexy, I have to order it online and pay about $30 more for it than a smaller woman would. And I don't always want something sexy -- most of the time I sleep in tank tops and boxers! There are tons of cute tank/boxers pajamas out there for smaller women now, but my fat ass has to settle for crappy men's A shirts and boxers from a big men's store.

Arrrgh...I'm getting all wound up now. I don't mind being big, I LIKE the way I look...but my life would be a whole lot easier if I could just go naked all the time, because finding clothes that I can wear that don't make me want to barf is just way harder than it needs to be...

HEhehheheheh :1orglaugh

Exactly my point Liz. It doesn't seem to have gotten QUITE that bad here in the UK yet (although my Mother In Law does her best to prove me wrong - she's a size 26 - by buying the most GODAWFUL clothes they can put on the rack) but they still don't make the clothes I want to wear in my size. I want to wear colourful, young looking tops and sweaters with fun jeans and corduroy. I want to wear shorts that aren't so short that they ride up on my thighs that don't happen to be stick shaped. Nor do I want to be condemned to the 'Capri Pant' that encases my legs as if they are things to be hidden. Regardless of my issues with my size (which I am even now working on) my legs have always been my best asset. They still are and I want clothes that will show them off without making me feel like a sausage. I don't want to wear clothes designed for the 35-50 set, I'm 24 for fuck's sake. A young mother who still feels 17 in a lot of ways. Where are the fun clothes for the bigger woman? :mad:

Note to self, must go along to the website for this catalogue and order one before I blow my top!:thumbsup

My mother in law is the same way...she wears t-shirts with Winnie the Pooh on them and polyester pants in colors nature never even dreamed of. At least since we moved out of her area she's quit buying clothes for me as gifts...

I think I have pretty nice legs, too, and I have the same problem finding clothes that show them off. I also have the added problem of being 5'5" -- which isn't very tall at all, but apparently the designers and makers of plus size women's clothing think that all big women are 5 feet tall and shaped like chubby little butterballs. Most pants and jeans are too short for my legs, yet if I buy the tall sizes they puddle around my ankles.

And I'm shaped like two apples stacked on top of each other -- round on top/small waist/round hips/slender legs -- so if I buy pants that fit me in the waist, they're too small for my hips; if I buy them to fit my hips and belly, they're too big at my waist; and no matter what I do, the pants legs flap like empty sails. :feels-hot

And I understand what you mean about plus size clothes being too old...I may be 30, but I'm not ready for Grandma-clothes just yet.

And don't even get me started about trying to find fetish-wear in my size...the only place I've found so far that I like is
Lady BWear ...

You should get in touch with me.. I have a book and some articles that you would absolutely love :)

Damn, that is so true, I'm 5'10 and everything in my size seems aimed at tiny shapeless butterballs, I want something to show off my legs and curves not drown them!

Punkworld - oh, I totally agree with you..there. I am totally into the 'fuck off soceity' world nd the BBWs that don't give a shit that someone is going to make a comment to them if they are god forbid seen eating in public. They rock!

Beasite - God does the plus sized clothing situation in the UK suck. Ladybwear is UK based but god everything else is so crap. It is nearly impossible to get clothing that isn't owned by every other BBW in the country.

I was once in the Regent Street branch of Evans and one of the buyers for the chain just so happened to be there. A mother and daughter cornered him and were bitching to him about how the sizing is never right on the clothing. He admitted right there and then that all they do is size up the same designs they sell at TopShop (owned by the same people). They don't recut or take into consideration that clothing hangs differently on different people.

This is perhaps clearest when it comes to their seriously crap bras. Okay..BBW tits have extra bumps..we have that bit under the arm that isn't really a tit but looks like it should be. If you are just sizing up a 32 A cup bra then it simply is not going to fit my 46D boobs the same way.

Everytime I go home to the states I save money and come home with some half decent clothing at prices far more realistic than the stuff over here.

And don't even get me started on the price of shoes in this country. They really need to bring payless shoes over here.

oh and I can imagine it is a problem being tall and fat but being short and fat is a problem too. I'm 5ft2 I can't get trousers that don't have the crotch at my navel or legs I don't have to hem.

mmmm i want to touch and play :-D

Babe, at least you can hem up the trousers (you shouldn't have to!!) but on me full length jeans look so stupid, I have 2 pairs of jeans that come down to my ankle bones and I looooove them so much!

Honey, I've always been caught up in alternative religions, this is one that I find it hard to find a good site where I can read up on and get my teeth into, do you have any good resource sites you could point me to - pretty please?

I totally agree! I was pleasantly surprised by the friendliness and tolerance in this thread! I'm not a BBW, but I have gained weight on my rear in the last couple years. My hubby doesn't really like the look of it on my thighs, but he does say it's a lot nicer to "tap it," as they say. He says he doesn't get bruises on his hips anymore. hahahha I personally can't stand the anorexic supermodel look, either. My own personal hero looks-wise is Dahlia Grey (of Andrew Blake fame). It's too bad about the boob job, but at least it looks very real. Scars Totally turn me off.

Anyway, that's my say.

also, for clothes, try www.torrid.com I walked into their vegas store, fell in love :-)

A great place for finding people in your area, articles, and links to other sites about specific traditions is The Witches' Voice. Other than that, I've never really been able to find anything very worthwhile online...lots of places are more along the lines of WannaBlessedBe's and teenieboppers looking for something "weird" to make their parents freak out.

I've been a Wiccan for over 12 years now, and what I ended up doing was learning what I could from a few good books, from training with friends who were initiates of various traditions, and otherwise just letting my fancy tell me what to study next.

The books I would wholeheartedly recommend are anything by Starhawk (esp. The Spiral Dance), SilverFox, "21st Century Wicca" by Jennifer Hunter, any of Scott Cunningham's books, Raymond Buckland's books, Dan & Pauline Campenelli. Just remember that no book is The Book, and that they're all guides, not laws or immutable "This Way Or Elses."

Other than that...if you're serious about learning about this as a religion, listen to yourself. Lessons tend to crop up in the most unexpected places...I go through periods where I'll read voraciously about one subject or another, and they all end up coming back to and somehow informing or expanding my meditative and magical practice. I went through a heavy Kali Ma the Destroyer/Creatrix period while I was dealing with some past abuse issues, and then a time where my explorations in BDSM were also connected to my religious practice...now I'm deep into the stories of Inanna and Ishtar and sacred Temple Whores.

Feel free to ICQ me or e-mail me at liz [at] fetishdyke dot net if I can be of any more help. :)

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