Should I release this free tool to help combat piracy?

[Yamato]

So, short story: one of the OnlyFans models (RIP Leo) had problems with "free sites" removing her pirated content and asked me if I knew how to deal with it. So after sending a few traditional emails and getting a "fuck you" response, I decided to throw them a little "fuck you" present.
So what this tool does (written in Python) is simulate clicks only on their sponsor banners. We all know who those are... So here's the sugar: it rotates obvious TOR proxies and clicks the living fuck out of those sponsor banners. It takes about 24 to 48 hours for them to realize they are being dicked around by bots, and they shut down the pirate's account. Once the banners are down, I send them another email with a reminder to remove the stolen content, and boom - it's gone.

reqs: vps, python, python libraries, IQ above 60 to kick of job nohup, to sit and to watch. Only clicks on designated banners.

PS: Please spare you ethical/not-ethical comments. Not interested.

[Duced]

Whats the layer for the sponsor click with bots?

Need more details.

What happens here with the sponsors??

[NatalieK]

personally, as a creator, I just see stolen content as promotion. I shoot new content every day and have my subs appreciating the daily updates & private contact.

I could imagine someone shooting content, uploading & then updating just monthly, a bit annoyed, but really models should know, there´s always going to be a leak, no matter who or how it gets out.

However, if you have a program to stop this, then go for it, maybe charge a small fee, a quid a month and have maybe 10´s of 1000´s of models appreciating your program

[Yamato]

Originally Posted by NatalieK

personally, as a creator, I just see stolen content as promotion. I shoot new content every day and have my subs appreciating the daily updates & private contact.

I could imagine someone shooting content, uploading & then updating just monthly, a bit annoyed, but really models should know, there´s always going to be a leak, no matter who or how it gets out.

However, if you have a program to stop this, then go for it, maybe charge a small fee, a quid a month and have maybe 10´s of 1000´s of models appreciating your program

Weeeell… nothing personal, but in your case you could probably use ANY publicity you can get. Don’t you do escorting? The girl I was helping does OF and has zero interest in publicity on Indian or Russian content sites. she prefers her content not be used as free promotional material for people who seem allergic to paying creators.

[Yamato]

Originally Posted by Duced

Whats the layer for the sponsor click with bots?

Need more details.

What happens here with the sponsors??

Hah? They close the pirate’s account and he loses his source of income. Everyone is happy. It’s always heartwarming when someone who profits from stolen content suddenly discovers that actions occasionally have consequences.

[CaptainHowdy]

Go for it . . .

[Duced]

Originally Posted by Yamato

Hah? They close the pirate’s account and he loses his source of income. Everyone is happy. It’s always heartwarming when someone who profits from stolen content suddenly discovers that actions occasionally have consequences.

Ok so what's stopping you? Open source it .......

[Yamato]

Originally Posted by Duced

Ok so what's stopping you? Open source it .......

People who maybe using it for purposes other than described.

[Duced]

Originally Posted by Yamato

People who maybe using it for purposes other than described.

I guess they would do it regardless if they wanted to with our without your code. It's easy to conjur it up these days.

Sponsors should be mitigating bot traffic anyways these days as it's rife with dead internet theory and what not.

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by Duced

Sponsors should be mitigating bot traffic anyways these days as it's rife with dead internet theory and what not.

Pirate sites are monetized by cpm/cpc ad networks, by flooding the banners with bot clicks they will get flagged for fraud and banned, as if they were trying to game the system and defraud advertisers themselves. :2cents:

[Duced]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

Pirate sites are monetized by cpm/cpc ad networks, by flooding the banners with bot clicks they will get flagged for fraud and banned, as if they were trying to game the system and defraud advertisers themselves. :2cents:

That makes total sense then!

[CyberHustler]

Spidey senses 🚨

[Tranden3]

So the program is already running?

[DemonitizedPorn]

This recipe will fix 80% of all piracy problems.

1. Block India
2. Block VPNs

[adultinnovation]

i love piracy

how else would i get all my free shit

[INever]

for 20 years. but the point is to keep jo customer young dum and fulla come.

[Yamato]

Originally Posted by Duced

That makes total sense then!

Now you understand why giving it to someone for “free” would put any competitor’s website in danger.
If anyone wants this script and knows how to read and run Python, please PM me. No fresh regs, please. And no SPR production, Jesse - go fuck yourself.

[INever]

if your tool will prevent music piracy, elderly selfish like bruce springstein can retire and let the next generations enjoy life.

[WiredGuy]

From an advertiser point of view, clicks from TOR/VPN/DataCenter IP's are exceptionally easy to dispute the charges. The advertiser will typically get a full refund from these sites, whether or not the ad network boots the publisher is up to ad network...
WG

[INever]

simple low tech solution?

require surfers to email for an access password to get beyond the first landing page.

[xjam]

Hey,


I am developing software for ad networks about decade,
pattern that you describe are done by newbie webmasters which much lower IQ, that want to test adserver cheat engine.

We are living in era of mcp bots, you speak about python script, thrilling!

My ad servers even blocking AI bots, which are much more sophisticated that you describe.

Take attention to NatalieK her professional approach is smooth and real.


Also not all payout models are PPC/PPV but how you can know about that, you never had your own traffic, seems.

>>PS: Please spare you ethical/not-ethical comments. Not interested

You will try rip off everyone just ya felt in love to that model, why not just pay her for attention

No ethical talk really, legally, if that happened with my adserver you will get bunch of abuse reports on your "vps" because its illegal's to use datacenter network to abuse another network, read terms of your hosting before running malicious-attacker script there.


Cheers.

[xjam]

Hey,

I am developing private adserver/rtb software about decade and that fraud traffic is detected before ever real ads will show. I am dealing with that crap every day, day-to-day.

We are in era of mcp click-fraud bots, good luck with your python script

NatalieK has a professional and wise approach to address issue, your script will not make you and your model better or profitable, only hard work.

Did your model followed takedown procedure and sent ID?

PS: Please spare you ethical/not-ethical comments. Not interested.

Sure, you just fell in love to model, and instead of paying her for date you want to become helpful Minion, that is very bad way to make her love you.

Attacking another networks are likely illegal with terms of your VPS provider, if it happen to my network your hosting will get bunch of reports and logs of attack that probably will reason of your service termination.

Internet is full of pussy "revengers", don't be like them, its unprofessional if you consider yourself webmaster, while purposing attack another one, focus on your business, if any.

Notice that most bigger sites are not working with ppc/ppv, they sell spots, why not to better focus on developing good resources for your website traffic and sell your spots?

Cheers.

[xxxclusive]

Exactly my taste to deal with annoying crooks

[xxxclusive]

Originally Posted by NatalieK

personally, as a creator, I just see stolen content as promotion.

Cope.

Users from these pages will never ever spend a penny, most are brokies or 3rd worlders. Yet they consume your work.

[xxxclusive]

Originally Posted by xjam

Hey,

I am developing private adserver/rtb software about decade and that fraud traffic is detected before ever real ads will show. I am dealing with that crap every day, day-to-day.

We are in era of mcp click-fraud bots, good luck with your python script

That he provoked you to make 2 of your 4 posts within 12 years must mean you feel quite threatened. lol

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Yamato

So, short story: one of the OnlyFans models (RIP Leo) had problems with "free sites" removing her pirated content and asked me if I knew how to deal with it. So after sending a few traditional emails and getting a "fuck you" response, I decided to throw them a little "fuck you" present.
So what this tool does (written in Python) is simulate clicks only on their sponsor banners. We all know who those are... So here's the sugar: it rotates obvious TOR proxies and clicks the living fuck out of those sponsor banners. It takes about 24 to 48 hours for them to realize they are being dicked around by bots, and they shut down the pirate's account. Once the banners are down, I send them another email with a reminder to remove the stolen content, and boom - it's gone.

reqs: vps, python, python libraries, IQ above 60 to kick of job nohup, to sit and to watch. Only clicks on designated banners.

PS: Please spare you ethical/not-ethical comments. Not interested.

I don't think this would work. Modern click fraud detection is sophisticated and they don't just look at clicks anymore. They look at behavior signals like how long a person has been on a page, mouse movement patterns, browser fingerprints, viewport rendering, JS execution, conversion rates, etc etc..

Headless requests are detectable too and are usually discarded.

TOR exit nodes are already heavily blacklisted and many ad networks and CDN's already filter out TOR exit nodes. Of course there are always new ones, but they eventually get blacklisted too as click fraud attempts are detected.

The pirates themselves may not even be penalized. Depending on their network the fake traffic would just get filtered out and the ad network just eats the loss.

If the clicks are sent too agressively, fraud detection would be alot faster too.

Besides everything else, it could get you into trouble. You could be liable under computer fraud statues like CFAA in the US & Canada, it would definately violate ToS's, etc..

Don't get me wrong - I'm on your side here... but click-fraud isn't the way to do it... Maybe a more agressive DMCA strategy? Look for the fraud/abuse departments of the the ad networks in question and hammer them with complaints.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by NatalieK

personally, as a creator, I just see stolen content as promotion. I shoot new content every day and have my subs appreciating the daily updates & private contact.

I could imagine someone shooting content, uploading & then updating just monthly, a bit annoyed, but really models should know, there´s always going to be a leak, no matter who or how it gets out.

However, if you have a program to stop this, then go for it, maybe charge a small fee, a quid a month and have maybe 10´s of 1000´s of models appreciating your program

HI Nat,

I think your method of handling this is solid.

Most people will go to any site, scan and consume images and videoclips of a model, and then move on to another. A small amount of them will become infatuated with certain models, even "fall in love" with them, and end up on your site. It is those users who will become your customers because they are (a) happy to pay you directly because it encourages you to make more content, (b) think that it gets them closer to you for some reason, or (c), both.

You could spend alot of time fighting pirates, but the fight is endless. You may get a reward that pirate xyz has been shut down and feel a small hit of dopamine when this happens, but you crash soon after when you find 10 more pirates have popped.

So maybe the best thing you can do is watermark your images and clips, be sure to actually say the name of your website in the videoclips and even wear branded clothing in your clips too before you rip them off, invite everyone to your site and personally engage them from there.