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playa · 05-13-2003, 11:31 AM

then why the hell oil prices haven't gone down that much?

so far i seen it only drop 10 cents at the most
nothing like it was before

JFK · 05-13-2003, 11:34 AM

and here you tought, they were going to share the spoils with you .....

KRL · 05-13-2003, 11:35 AM

Its down .20 cents in South Florida already.

iroc409 · 05-13-2003, 11:36 AM

do we HAVE to bring this up, yet again??

donnie · 05-13-2003, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by JFK
and here you tought, they were going to share the spoils with you .....

Sly_RJ · 05-13-2003, 11:37 AM

If the war was about weapons of mass destruction, why haven't we found them yet?

CigarMan · 05-13-2003, 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
If the war was about weapons of mass destruction, why haven't we found them yet?

Maybe because we were fighting a war and not doing "inspections". We just started looking. WMD's will be found.

Sly_RJ · 05-13-2003, 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by CigarMan

Maybe because we were fighting a war and not doing "inspections". We just started looking. WMD's will be found.

Still fighting? Surely a couple weeks is enough time to find any WMD's. Intelligence stated that Iraq had them, intelligence should know where they are.

playa · 05-13-2003, 12:31 PM

my point is that this should prove that the war wasn't bout oil,,

damn oil monopoly still controlling the damn prices

man i need to bring back the days when gas was at $1 per gallon

funkmaster · 05-13-2003, 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
If the war was about weapons of mass destruction, why haven't we found them yet?

consergeius says: it´s hard to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if there is no black cat.

funkmaster · 05-13-2003, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by CigarMan

Maybe because we were fighting a war and not doing "inspections". We just started looking. WMD's will be found.

... obviously you don´t read the news too much, the us army has 800 inspectors in iraq ... they will leave next week because nothing IS THERE ...

Nydahl · 05-13-2003, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by CigarMan

Maybe because we were fighting a war and not doing "inspections". We just started looking. WMD's will be found.

I think its a shame of US nation.I have heard a tons of kidding about nukes and helping the world become safer etc - you've found nothing and Saddam is on the run - seems like you are not able to complete any mission (Bin Ladin is also on the run).
Reality is a little bit different from your great movies and US heroes ,don't you think?

Sly_RJ · 05-13-2003, 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by Nydahl

Reality is a little bit different from your great movies and US heroes ,don't you think?

No. Movies are exactly what happens in real life. The fuck are you talking about?

Ok, aside from that... the fuck are you talking about? Is Saddam still in control of Iraq? Uhh... speak up please, can't hear you. Oh, what's that? Saddam is no longer in control of Iraq? Holy fuck sticks Batman! Do you mean to say that the coalition was able to rid Iraq of Saddam? But I thought we couldn't complete any mission?

Hmm...

JFK · 05-13-2003, 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by playa
my point is that this should prove that the war wasn't bout oil,,

damn oil monopoly still controlling the damn prices

man i need to bring back the days when gas was at $1 per gallon

Yup the Bushes and cronies are getting richer........

Nydahl · 05-13-2003, 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

No. Movies are exactly what happens in real life. The fuck are you talking about?

Ok, aside from that... the fuck are you talking about? Is Saddam still in control of Iraq? Uhh... speak up please, can't hear you. Oh, what's that? Saddam is no longer in control of Iraq? Holy fuck sticks Batman! Do you mean to say that the coalition was able to rid Iraq of Saddam? But I thought we couldn't complete any mission?

Hmm...

I think that problem is far more complicated - you can't change whole Iraq just removing Saddam and his regime - Arabies will never change their way of thinking and living.They simply can't live in democratic country.
But it is your war and also your shame - I only hope that my country won't be the next on Mr.Bush list just because we produce semtex for example

dig420 · 05-13-2003, 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by playa
my point is that this should prove that the war wasn't bout oil,,

damn oil monopoly still controlling the damn prices

man i need to bring back the days when gas was at $1 per gallon

it wasn't so YOU could have low oil prices. Don't be ridiculous.

it was so that the status quo remains the status quo, and the people in charge of the oil economy remain in charge.

unless you think we suddenly wanted to 'liberate' a million ultra-muslim rug merchants from their oppressive dictator

Kel · 05-13-2003, 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
If the war was about weapons of mass destruction, why haven't we found them yet?

Let me put it to you like this.....there's probably a lot more that belongs to Iraq sitting in Syria right now than a few Ba'ath party members.

DarkJedi · 05-13-2003, 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by JFK
and here you tought, they were going to share the spoils with you .....

ahahah, so true

directfiesta · 05-13-2003, 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by playa
my point is that this should prove that the war wasn't bout oil,,

damn oil monopoly still controlling the damn prices

man i need to bring back the days when gas was at $1 per gallon

Playa, you need to attend the course " Introduction 101 to make my friends profit". This course explains how Dick Cheney will make you rich ... if ( that is the catch...) you are one of his friends.

Here, a liter of gas is down 0.20 since the end of the war ( that comes to near 0.60 US a gallon ...), so either you guys are getting fucked by your nice Texan gov, or you didn't realize that in fact Canada has taken over Iraq under a covert operation directed by none other than Jean Chretien....

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

No. Movies are exactly what happens in real life. The fuck are you talking about?

Ok, aside from that... the fuck are you talking about? Is Saddam still in control of Iraq? Uhh... speak up please, can't hear you. Oh, what's that? Saddam is no longer in control of Iraq? Holy fuck sticks Batman! Do you mean to say that the coalition was able to rid Iraq of Saddam? But I thought we couldn't complete any mission?

Hmm...
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Worst, now you are going to have to deal with a muslim shiite state... What an improvment. BTW, those guys you cannot buy them off like a Saddam, Noriega, Iran Shah, Pinochet, Aristide and all other imperialist puppets...

Welcome to your nightmare... in fact you had a flash preview yesterday/today....

Lane · 05-13-2003, 01:23 PM

maybe it wasnt for some profit but was to prevent a loss? maybe Saddam did a move that US didnt like? like selling the oil on Euro instead of $. maybe if the war didnt happen the gas prices would be twice as much soon?

CigarMan · 05-13-2003, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by funkmaster

... obviously you don´t read the news too much, the us army has 800 inspectors in iraq ... they will leave next week because nothing IS THERE ...

Source please.

Put 800 people in California to search for hidden weapons and then hide some stuff ANYWHERE in the state. Let's see how long it takes to find them if ever. You guys on the left are amazing, if it doesn't happen in 10 minutes it's a failure. It could take years to search a country the size of Iraq.

BTW, I am a news junkie my friend.

directfiesta · 05-13-2003, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by Lane
maybe it wasnt for some profit but was to prevent a loss? maybe Saddam did a move that US didnt like? like selling the oil on Euro instead of $. maybe if the war didnt happen the gas prices would be twice as much soon?

No it was for this:

No. we know: it was to liberate the poor Iraqis from the bad butcher dictator... and give them electricity and water that they didn't have .

Carlito · 05-13-2003, 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by JFK

Yup the Bushes and cronies are getting richer........

I think if the war concerned oil they would have just seized the oil fields in 1992 when they COULD HAVE.

Everyone knows that the US has enough oil in its soil to support themselves for another 50 years, at which time a replacement will be in place. Thank the fucking environmentalists for the oil prices.

Funny thing is, Environmentalists get so much attention by promoting " problems " that do not even scientifically exist. I wish I could get that much exposure for my sites. Maybe I should take a sign to the next picket with my domain name on it.

" Fuck the environment, go visit my porn site and have some fun while the world dies! "

Carlito · 05-13-2003, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by CigarMan

Source please.

Put 800 people in California to search for hidden weapons and then hide some stuff ANYWHERE in the state. Let's see how long it takes to find them if ever. You guys on the left are amazing, if it doesn't happen in 10 minutes it's a failure. It could take years to search a country the size of Iraq.

BTW, I am a news junkie my friend.

I agree with you 100% - The left just argues about presumed bullshit that is 90% of the time fictional & imagined - The other ten percent is stupid petty things that don`t even need attention.
Like affirmative action, they just make minorities feel like they are stupid and need special attention.

ThunderBalls · 05-13-2003, 01:36 PM

"We have "solid" evidence Iraq possesses weapons of mass destruction." GW - December 6, 2002

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our Number one priority and we will not rest until we find him!" -- George W. Bush, September 13, 2001

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." -- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002

Nydahl · 05-13-2003, 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by ThunderBalls
"We have "solid" evidence Iraq possesses weapons of mass destruction." GW - December 6, 2002

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our Number one priority and we will not rest until we find him!" -- George W. Bush, September 13, 2001

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." -- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002

fucker leads your country

Thorin · 05-13-2003, 01:47 PM

It's ecenomic, but not about oil. Reserve currency is the key.

theking · 05-13-2003, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Still fighting? Surely a couple weeks is enough time to find any WMD's. Intelligence stated that Iraq had them, intelligence should know where they are.

To clear up a couple of things. Iraq is the one that stated they had materials for WMD back in '91. They stated that they had X amount of this and X amount of that. By 1998 when the inspectors left Iraq much of their capability had been destroyed, but X amount of this and X amount of that had not been.

1441 demanded that Iraq prove they had no WMD materials and implicit in that demand was for Iraq to account for the remaining WMD materials that were known to exist when the inspectors pulled out in '98. Iraq stated that they had destroyed the remaining materials, but offered zero proof that they in fact had done this. They said that they destroyed the paper work when the destroyed the remainder of WMD materials. They failed to produce physical evidence of the destruction of the remainder of the WMD materials. They failed to produce the scientists and other personell that would have been involved in the destruction of the remaining WMD materials.

Based upon this failure of Iraq to offer any proof that the remaining WMD materials had been destroyed and whatever intelligence we had, or thought we had, it was assumed that the WMD materials still existed.

These WMD materials may, or may not exist, but if they do, because of the type of materials we are speaking about they can be easily hidden and may in fact take years of searching, unless someone in the know in Iraq comes forward.

Snapper · 05-13-2003, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by ThunderBalls
"We have "solid" evidence Iraq possesses weapons of mass destruction." GW - December 6, 2002

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our Number one priority and we will not rest until we find him!" -- George W. Bush, September 13, 2001

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." -- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002

So what are you saying? We can't change priorities? So I guess since FDR said we were going after the japanese back in 41, we need to still go after them, huh? I mean, they still have an emperor, don't they?

WMD in the form of rockets have not been found, BUT

We did find mobile labs, which I assure you, they were not making Kool-aid in.

Iraq is the size of texas. Finding those could take years, the Ba ath regime had 18 years to hide that shit.

Osama may be unfound, but he isn't sitting comfortably in Afghanistan either. All of Al-Qaeda is on the run. While they can strike out like they did yesterday, they certainly cant operate as freely as they could.

Glass is not always half empty. We still have work to do, but some progress has certainly been made, wouldn't you think?

bikinihouse · 05-13-2003, 02:31 PM

In Canada, we've seen 10 year lows...

49 cents a litre in Toronto!!!! down 30 cents!

theking · 05-13-2003, 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by playa
my point is that this should prove that the war wasn't bout oil,,

damn oil monopoly still controlling the damn prices

man i need to bring back the days when gas was at $1 per gallon

The US still has lower gas prices than most...if not all of Europe.

davvve · 05-13-2003, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by Nydahl

I think its a shame of US nation.I have heard a tons of kidding about nukes and helping the world become safer etc - you've found nothing and Saddam is on the run - seems like you are not able to complete any mission (Bin Ladin is also on the run).
Reality is a little bit different from your great movies and US heroes ,don't you think?

Is it bad thing that Saddam and Bin Laden are on the run?

vending_machine · 05-13-2003, 04:28 PM

Shit, I read this article a month or so ago in Newsweek I believe about how the government was buying up mass quantities of oil for the purpose of having reserves. The article claimed that the mass purchasing of oil was the main factor of the rise of US gas prices and that documents pertaining to the matter where held secret as the White House had been heavily involved in the whole ordeal. Some senate representatives where trying to get the documents opened with no luck.

Now if I could only find that article online.. grr

detoxed · 05-13-2003, 04:45 PM

Down 30 cents a gallon here

sync · 05-13-2003, 05:00 PM

You guys seem to forget one thing, the people in the Middle East although backwards in some aspects of their culture are not complete morons.

The reason why WMD have not been found is because for months before the war started they have been moving them out of their borders. This helps to strengthen their case that the US attacked them without justification.

Also since the majority of terrorists do no reside in Iraq they now have even easier access to these arms then before.

GO USA with our dumb moves.

The only right thing that BUSH did was attack Afghanistan however he waited too long.

The proper thing to do here is start a coalition with the same countries that supported our war on IRAQ and attack all known terrorist groups and annihilate these fuckers. Why wait if we know they are EVIL?

Snapper · 05-13-2003, 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by sync
You guys seem to forget one thing, the people in the Middle East although backwards in some aspects of their culture are not complete morons.

The reason why WMD have not been found is because for months before the war started they have been moving them out of their borders. This helps to strengthen their case that the US attacked them without justification.

Also since the majority of terrorists do no reside in Iraq they now have even easier access to these arms then before.

GO USA with our dumb moves.

The only right thing that BUSH did was attack Afghanistan however he waited too long.

The proper thing to do here is start a coalition with the same countries that supported our war on IRAQ and attack all known terrorist groups and annihilate these fuckers. Why wait if we know they are EVIL?

We are waiting for Austin Powers to be thawed out.

Joe Sixpack · 05-13-2003, 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by sync
[B]The reason why WMD have not been found is because for months before the war started they have been moving them out of their borders.[B]

And how do YOU know this?

Back up your claim.

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Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	maybe it wasnt for some profit but was to prevent a loss? maybe Saddam did a move that US didnt like? like selling the oil on Euro instead of $. maybe if the war didnt happen the gas prices would be twice as much soon? __________________

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vending_machine Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,062	Shit, I read this article a month or so ago in Newsweek I believe about how the government was buying up mass quantities of oil for the purpose of having reserves. The article claimed that the mass purchasing of oil was the main factor of the rise of US gas prices and that documents pertaining to the matter where held secret as the White House had been heavily involved in the whole ordeal. Some senate representatives where trying to get the documents opened with no luck. Now if I could only find that article online.. grr

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05-13-2003, 05:00 PM	#35
sync Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: NY Posts: 204	You guys seem to forget one thing, the people in the Middle East although backwards in some aspects of their culture are not complete morons. The reason why WMD have not been found is because for months before the war started they have been moving them out of their borders. This helps to strengthen their case that the US attacked them without justification. Also since the majority of terrorists do no reside in Iraq they now have even easier access to these arms then before. GO USA with our dumb moves. The only right thing that BUSH did was attack Afghanistan however he waited too long. The proper thing to do here is start a coalition with the same countries that supported our war on IRAQ and attack all known terrorist groups and annihilate these fuckers. Why wait if we know they are EVIL?