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  • FUCK J0EL
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2003
    • 1899
    #1

    Paysite Revenues

    I'm curious to see what you guys think.

    How many site do over 1M/year ?
    How many over 5M/year ?

    It's funny when I talk to people in the industry, everyone makes millions. But when you get in a deeper conversation, and actually see numbers, the reality is so different.

    Looking forward in reading the answers
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    • fuzebox
      making it rain
      • Oct 2003
      • 22351
      #2
      On GFY everyone thinks $10k/mo is a lot of money.

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        • The Porn Nerd
          Living The Dream
          • Jun 2009
          • 19784
          #3
          Very few paysties make that kind of coin my friend. The few that probably do - Blacked, Met-Art, the various Mind Geek properties - are either very established brands or are tied to one of the big tube sites so they have massive "in-house" traffic.

          Otherwise I think if a paysite makes anywhere between $50,000-$250,000 a year you are doing solid business.
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            • CaptainHowdy
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Dec 2004
              • 94727
              #4
              Originally posted by FUCK J0EL
              It's funny when I talk to people in the industry, everyone makes millions. But when you get in a deeper conversation, and actually see numbers, the reality is so different.
              You've just realized that ? ?

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                • CurrentlySober
                  Too lazy to wipe my ass
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 38939
                  #5
                  i cunt a4d2 make nuffin...


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                    • plsureking
                      bored
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 4900
                      #6
                      i think posting Gamma's gross sales per site would give members great insights on the topic.



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                        • Roald
                          SecretFriends.com
                          • May 2001
                          • 27910
                          #7
                          42 seems to be the answer.


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                            • beavr
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                              • Sep 2015
                              • 563
                              #8
                              VR is on the rise making millions per month

                              otherwise paysite business is dead. there is no #2 in tech business.
                              VR porn is SexLikeReal.

                              Big money in VR porn those days

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                                • lockept93
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2019
                                  • 854
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by beavr
                                  VR is on the rise making millions per month

                                  otherwise paysite business is dead. there is no #2 in tech business.
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                                    • celandina
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jun 2006
                                      • 11715
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                      Otherwise I think if a paysite makes anywhere between $50,000-$250,000 a year you are doing solid business.
                                      Very realistic and truthful answer. After production costs, operating costs and taxes, we do usually high 5 figs only. In a good year we hit 6 figures, but low six figs. Covid is good for us. Unless something fucks up we should hit another " good year" in 2020.

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                                        • plsureking
                                          bored
                                          • Aug 2003
                                          • 4900
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by beavr
                                          VR is on the rise making millions per month

                                          otherwise paysite business is dead. there is no #2 in tech business.
                                          lots of niches in the industry are making millions. foot fetish is making millions. tranny sites are making millions. escorting is making millions.

                                          VR is just another niche.

                                          of course, the Quest2 turned my head. i'm learning dev for it...(preordered)

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                                            • beavr
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                                              • Sep 2015
                                              • 563
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by plsureking

                                              of course, the Quest2 turned my head. i'm learning dev for it...(preordered)

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                                              https://www.sexlikereal.com/blog/pos...he-porn-market

                                              for $299 you get the best of VR. we expect it to be a huge sales driver. like expanding the whole operation

                                              also PS5 + 2nd gen PSVR is coming, currently the most sold headset. Then Apple VR later this year

                                              there's a huge opportunity coming. we are rolling out a bunch of new services to fit the gap
                                              VR porn is SexLikeReal.

                                              Big money in VR porn those days

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                                                • lockept93
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Apr 2019
                                                  • 854
                                                  #13
                                                  Are paysites really still work these days? I always thought there not many people out there doing that.
                                                  It feels like cams and subscribtion is the current way to get massive paying users.
                                                  Some numbers would be interesting...what do you think make a top brand?
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                                                    • plsureking
                                                      bored
                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                      • 4900
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by beavr
                                                      https://www.sexlikereal.com/blog/pos...he-porn-market

                                                      for $299 you get the best of VR. we expect it to be a huge sales driver. like expanding the whole operation

                                                      also PS5 + 2nd gen PSVR is coming, currently the most sold headset. Then Apple VR later this year

                                                      there's a huge opportunity coming. we are rolling out a bunch of new services to fit the gap
                                                      ya good article.. the Q2 is definitely going to change things..

                                                      according to Zuck

                                                      enjoy the growth!

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                                                        • Colmike9
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                                                          • Dec 2011
                                                          • 7230
                                                          #15
                                                          I know lots of companies that barely get by, and I know lots of companies that are making easily at least $1mil/year. It all depends on lots of things.
                                                          A small one-two guy operation took me to Vegas recently, all paid, MGM suite for me, kept handing me money, etc, another company paid like $xx,xxx to take me to Europe for a week. Then there are companies who can barely pay for a new banner.
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                                                            • BigFurry
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                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                              • 1574
                                                              #16
                                                              Those who declare paysites "dead" do not realize just how many paysites are out there. There are tens of thousands.

                                                              Sure, lots are close to dead and make pennies, but there are many still active and making money.

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                                                                • beavr
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Sep 2015
                                                                  • 563
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by BigFurry
                                                                  Those who declare paysites "dead" do not realize just how many paysites are out there. There are tens of thousands.

                                                                  Sure, lots are close to dead and make pennies, but there are many still active and making money.
                                                                  I have historical data showing paysites are dropping at huge rate. More are closing their doors than new emerging. It's just data. The industry got greatly consolidated with indy paysites being something unthinkable.

                                                                  And when it comes to VR industry it could be clearly seen that content proposition only is not enough to engage with the users.
                                                                  VR porn is SexLikeReal.

                                                                  Big money in VR porn those days

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                                                                    • BigFurry
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                      • 1574
                                                                      #18
                                                                      There are like 50-100 VR paysites in total, and you own the biggest one. It's still a tiny niche market compared to 2D paysites.

                                                                      You own the biggest and most successful VR paysite, of course you're very profitable. There are also tons of failed VR sites who gave up. Market leader is always doing great, no matter what sector.

                                                                      Market leaders in the 2D paysite segment like Brazzers, Blacked, etc are also very profitable obviously. It's as if Blacked owner came here and started telling everyone that starting paysites is the best business ever.

                                                                      It's clear that the paysite business is not thriving like 15 years ago, but it's still huge overall and it's not going anywhere. Especially if you count premium tubes as paysites too.

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                                                                        • beavr
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                                                                          • Sep 2015
                                                                          • 563
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by BigFurry
                                                                          There are like 50-100 VR paysites in total, and you own the biggest one. It's still a tiny niche market compared to 2D paysites.
                                                                          how many of those are still updating at least 1 a month (hint: not many Top VR porn studios | List of the best VR porn studios | SexLikeReal) and are owned by a separate companies?

                                                                          by the end of the day it's like the whole VR porn industry is 20 companies with some 5 that are actually making some revenues.
                                                                          VR porn is SexLikeReal.

                                                                          Big money in VR porn those days

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                                                                            • BigFurry
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                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                              • 1574
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by beavr
                                                                              how many of those are still updating at least 1 a month (hint: not many Top VR porn studios | List of the best VR porn studios | SexLikeReal) and are owned by a separate companies?

                                                                              by the end of the day it's like the whole VR porn industry is 20 companies with some 5 that are actually making some revenues.
                                                                              Exactly, VR is a small niche. Its overall revenue is tiny if you compare it to all paysites' overall revenue.

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                                                                                • atomicpete
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jul 2019
                                                                                  • 106
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  I think that paying for premium content is not dead at all... Take a good look at mainstream VOD services. They are on the rise for years. And with the current situation in the world where everybody is bored, I think that paysites will become more popular than ever... And there is a whole generation that likes to show off that they CAN afford some luxury items.
                                                                                  Porn: just a hobby... that got out of hand!

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                                                                                    • beavr
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Sep 2015
                                                                                      • 563
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by BigFurry
                                                                                      Exactly, VR is a small niche. Its overall revenue is tiny if you compare it to all paysites' overall revenue.
                                                                                      with the only difference that VR makes money and paysites don't. PH and tubes make money, cams make money, paysites don't because only specific content is their only value proposition
                                                                                      VR porn is SexLikeReal.

                                                                                      Big money in VR porn those days

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                                                                                        • SBJ
                                                                                          So Fucking Fabulous
                                                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                                                          • 11387
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          I made $3.50 so I decided it was time to move on from paysites.

                                                                                          There is still money in it but just not as big unless you're huge

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                                                                                            • Zuzana Designs
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                                                                                              • 20896
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Roald
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                                                                                                • plsureking
                                                                                                  bored
                                                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                                                  • 4900
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Colmike7
                                                                                                  I know lots of companies that barely get by, and I know lots of companies that are making easily at least $1mil/year. It all depends on lots of things.
                                                                                                  A small one-two guy operation took me to Vegas recently, all paid, MGM suite for me, kept handing me money, etc, another company paid like $xx,xxx to take me to Europe for a week. Then there are companies who can barely pay for a new banner.
                                                                                                  welcome back, Colmike!

                                                                                                  fyi there's no money in porn

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                                                                                                    • ilnjscb
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                                                                                                      • Jun 2009
                                                                                                      • 8972
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Colmike7
                                                                                                      I know lots of companies that barely get by, and I know lots of companies that are making easily at least $1mil/year. It all depends on lots of things.
                                                                                                      A small one-two guy operation took me to Vegas recently, all paid, MGM suite for me, kept handing me money, etc, another company paid like $xx,xxx to take me to Europe for a week. Then there are companies who can barely pay for a new banner.
                                                                                                      Hey man! where have you been lately?

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                                                                                                        • BigFurry
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                                          • 1574
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by beavr
                                                                                                          with the only difference that VR makes money and paysites don't. PH and tubes make money, cams make money, paysites don't because only specific content is their only value proposition
                                                                                                          That's wrong, top paysites make tons of money. Bad ones fail. Same as in VR.

                                                                                                          Plus there's thousands of paysites inbetween the two, that make just enough money that they're worth operating, even if they're not going to make their owners rich.

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                                                                                                            • Colmike9
                                                                                                              (>^_^)b
                                                                                                              • Dec 2011
                                                                                                              • 7230
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by plsureking
                                                                                                              welcome back, Colmike!

                                                                                                              fyi there's no money in porn

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                                                                                                                • Colmike9
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                                                                                                                  • Dec 2011
                                                                                                                  • 7230
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by ilnjscb
                                                                                                                  Hey man! where have you been lately?
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                                                                                                                    • celandina
                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                      • Jun 2006
                                                                                                                      • 11715
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by BigFurry
                                                                                                                      Exactly, VR is a small niche. Its overall revenue is tiny if you compare it to all paysites' overall revenue.
                                                                                                                      ....and it will stay that way since you cannot have sex or jerk off with that "bucket" over your head

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                                                                                                                        • Colmike9
                                                                                                                          (>^_^)b
                                                                                                                          • Dec 2011
                                                                                                                          • 7230
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by celandina
                                                                                                                          ....and it will stay that way since you cannot have sex or jerk off with that "bucket" over your head
                                                                                                                          Yeah, I think things will be a bit more popular once the headsets become smaller and wireless. It's a hassle to jerk off in VR currently.. Looks great, though, except for a few crappy VR sites with poor quality videos/no 3d.
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                                                                                                                            • Colmike9
                                                                                                                              (>^_^)b
                                                                                                                              • Dec 2011
                                                                                                                              • 7230
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              But.. If the PS5 has better 3d VR support without having to get a subscription to Littlstar, then VR porn might pick up a little more I think.
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                                                                                                                                • The Porn Nerd
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                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2009
                                                                                                                                  • 19784
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by BigFurry
                                                                                                                                  That's wrong, top paysites make tons of money. Bad ones fail. Same as in VR.

                                                                                                                                  Plus there's thousands of paysites inbetween the two, that make just enough money that they're worth operating, even if they're not going to make their owners rich.
                                                                                                                                  Exactly this. I run many paysites and my metric is simple: If it makes a profit, even a small one, keep it. Every penny counts.

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                                                                                                                                    • fuzebox
                                                                                                                                      making it rain
                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 22351
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by beavr
                                                                                                                                      indy paysites being something unthinkable
                                                                                                                                      I disagree, indy paysites are where small operators can make more money because of less overhead

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                                                                                                                                        • Domination4K
                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2020
                                                                                                                                          • 2194
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Zuzana Designs
                                                                                                                                          42 is always the answer!
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                                                                                                                                            • svet0slav_SR
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                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2018
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Depends on lots of factors, not just site number.
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                                                                                                                                                • xxxclusive
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                                                                                                                                                    • Zuzana Designs
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                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                      • 20896
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Domination4K
                                                                                                                                                      Zuzana Designs..$10,000 for a design!
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                                                                                                                                                        • rayadp05
                                                                                                                                                          TRUEAMATEURMODELS.COM
                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2005
                                                                                                                                                          • 4187
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          I obviously cannot speak for other paysites, but in terms of my paysite, it's working out absolutely great. I've been running it for nearly 16 years now and it has always generated enough revenue for me to be able to do it full time and for me to be able to pay my mortgage, cover shooting expenses, pay all of my other bills and to have a decent amount of money left over for other things. I think it entirely depends on each and every individual paysite. There are some that do very well and there are some that do absolutely horrible. The content that you shoot obviously matters a lot and keeping the site updated on a regular basis so that you can retain the existing members that have already signed up is equally important.

                                                                                                                                                          Acquiring and using successful marketing skills so that the site is able to generate new signups is also very important. There are so many different aspects to making a paysite generate a nice amount of income, and if you're knowledgeable regarding how to implement them into your business, and you shoot content that people want to see and are willing to slide their debit card out of their wallet in order to gain immediate access to the entire collection of content that you've produced over the years, as well as continue to produce on a regular basis, it should do well for you. Establishing your websites name over the years by hitting up the review sites, releasing promo content, advertising, and updating the site on a regular basis are all very important factors, as well as many other things that can be done to generate signups and to keep as many existing members as possible.

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                                                                                                                                                            • The Porn Nerd
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                                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2009
                                                                                                                                                              • 19784
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                                                                                              I obviously cannot speak for other paysites, but in terms of my paysite, it's working out absolutely great. I've been running it for nearly 16 years now and it has always generated enough revenue for me to be able to do it full time and for me to be able to pay my mortgage, cover shooting expenses, pay all of my other bills and to have a decent amount of money left over for other things. I think it entirely depends on each and every individual paysite. There are some that do very well and there are some that do absolutely horrible. The content that you shoot obviously matters a lot and keeping the site updated on a regular basis so that you can retain the existing members that have already signed up is equally important.

                                                                                                                                                              Acquiring and using successful marketing skills so that the site is able to generate new signups is also very important. There are so many different aspects to making a paysite generate a nice amount of income, and if you're knowledgeable regarding how to implement them into your business, and you shoot content that people want to see and are willing to slide their debit card out of their wallet in order to gain immediate access to the entire collection of content that you've produced over the years, as well as continue to produce on a regular basis, it should do well for you. Establishing your websites name over the years by hitting up the review sites, releasing promo content, advertising, and updating the site on a regular basis are all very important factors, as well as many other things that can be done to generate signups and to keep as many existing members as possible.
                                                                                                                                                              Great post!! I remember you from when I started way back when. You were a veteran even then. LOL Glad it's still going strong for you.

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                                                                                                                                                                • Zuzana Designs
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                                  • 20896
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                                                                                                  I obviously cannot speak for other paysites, but in terms of my paysite, it's working out absolutely great. I've been running it for nearly 16 years now and it has always generated enough revenue for me to be able to do it full time and for me to be able to pay my mortgage, cover shooting expenses, pay all of my other bills and to have a decent amount of money left over for other things. I think it entirely depends on each and every individual paysite. There are some that do very well and there are some that do absolutely horrible. The content that you shoot obviously matters a lot and keeping the site updated on a regular basis so that you can retain the existing members that have already signed up is equally important.

                                                                                                                                                                  Acquiring and using successful marketing skills so that the site is able to generate new signups is also very important. There are so many different aspects to making a paysite generate a nice amount of income, and if you're knowledgeable regarding how to implement them into your business, and you shoot content that people want to see and are willing to slide their debit card out of their wallet in order to gain immediate access to the entire collection of content that you've produced over the years, as well as continue to produce on a regular basis, it should do well for you. Establishing your websites name over the years by hitting up the review sites, releasing promo content, advertising, and updating the site on a regular basis are all very important factors, as well as many other things that can be done to generate signups and to keep as many existing members as possible.
                                                                                                                                                                  This is some great information

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                                                                                                                                                                    • trevesty
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      I think the most interesting take away is how people project their own failures (or successes) onto the rest of a fairly large industry.

                                                                                                                                                                      VR guy thinks it's the only profitable thing ever, but there's many pay sites making way more than him in a very profitable fashion. Guys barely making 6 figures thinking it's impossible that others are making 9 figures, etc.
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                                                                                                                                                                        • The Porn Nerd
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by trevesty
                                                                                                                                                                          I think the most interesting take away is how people project their own failures (or successes) onto the rest of a fairly large industry.

                                                                                                                                                                          VR guy thinks it's the only profitable thing ever, but there's many pay sites making way more than him in a very profitable fashion. Guys barely making 6 figures thinking it's impossible that others are making 9 figures, etc.
                                                                                                                                                                          Most of us live in a bubble of our own creation so it's best not to play the Comparison Game (unless you know how to play so you win every time).

                                                                                                                                                                          This is why I focus on MY definition of success, not what other companies or other individuals are doing. That's a loser mentality and you set yourself up for failure because there will always be someone who has more than you do. So best to focus on what you have and need and what makes you happy rather than comparing yourself to others.
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                                                                                                                                                                                • trevesty
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                                                                                                                                  Most of us live in a bubble of our own creation so it's best not to play the Comparison Game (unless you know how to play so you win every time).

                                                                                                                                                                                  This is why I focus on MY definition of success, not what other companies or other individuals are doing. That's a loser mentality and you set yourself up for failure because there will always be someone who has more than you do. So best to focus on what you have and need and what makes you happy rather than comparing yourself to others.
                                                                                                                                                                                  As long as my wife and the IRS aren't mad at me, I'm sleeping like a baby.
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • The Porn Nerd
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by trevesty
                                                                                                                                                                                      As long as my wife and the IRS aren't mad at me, I'm sleeping like a baby.
                                                                                                                                                                                      In that order? LOL
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • trevesty
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                                                                                                                                          In that order? LOL
                                                                                                                                                                                          Yessir.
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • webgurl
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                                                                                                                                                                                              JOEL are you on a hunting trip again? :P

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Screwed Up
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Of anybody in this thread, Joel, you have probably the juiciest info... Spill the beans! Haha.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Screwed Up
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Of anybody in this thread, Joel, you have probably the juiciest info... Spill the beans! Haha.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yes Joel should have opened with some numbers

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