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  • bmwracer41
    Confirmed User
    • May 2013
    • 1526
    #1

    Zombaio not paying

    gUys- any one with good conatacts at Zombaio, please share


    we have had problems with payments months late, lack of support and the company seems to be getting worse then better handling ongoing problems.

    I am hoping like payvision did and strung people out knowing they were overseas


    Are their any other reputable processors who pay and can handle premium sections in Tubes sites that do not have the record keeping requirements that say an Epoch or Vendo would handle

    Really need some help

    Thanks
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    • bmwracer41
      Confirmed User
      • May 2013
      • 1526
      #2
      More great news

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        • MaDalton
          I am Amazing Content!
          • Feb 2004
          • 39861
          #3
          I thought it was common knowledge that they don't pay. For several years now.

          No matter if old or new owners - which are the same anyways.

          Some people might have been lucky, most were not.
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            • ruff
              I have a plan B
              • Aug 2004
              • 5507
              #4
              Yeah, people have been saying Zombaio doesn't pay. How they get away with this I don't know.
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                • JesseQuinn
                  feeding the wolves
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 6620
                  #5
                  Originally posted by MaDalton
                  I thought it was common knowledge that they don't pay. For several years now


                  lots of peeps don't do a lot of research before choosing a biller though. everyone should, both publicly and privately

                  Originally posted by ruff
                  Yeah, people have been saying Zombaio doesn't pay. How they get away with this I don't know.
                  I suspect they get away with it as they are probably difficult to sue being a Euro co with a US address, and they rely on people just giving up

                  why peeps still use them who are aware of their history of theft, think it's one of those selective paying situations. they do pay someone people sometimes, at least as long as they do good volumes and don't discuss it publicly. so the webmaster thinks everything is peachy until it's not. but quit using them after an inevitable extended payment delay (months, not days) or complain in public and kiss everything owed including reserve goodbye

                  Jesper is a liar, yeah I said it. my azz that zombaio has an 'accounting department' that's not able to issue a payment for over a year. it's probably him and a handful of others at most, each working out of their home offices or kitchen tables, profiting off of the margin of money owed but unpaid

                  I was lucky, saw the writing on the wall back in late 2013 when payment to everyone but me it seemed stopped. I knew I wasn't special, that at some point I'd get ripped off as well

                  got my own merchant account and a dude from here (haven't seen him around in ages) actually helped me get every penny owed except for a very small reserve

                  I had already switched most of my clients out to new, temporary billing options so really didn't end up getting much stolen. most of my reserve was paid out along with everything owed outright after the gfy dude got involved, as the rolling reserve was months overdue by the time I finally got paid

                  I think he was just a temporary support person there, he seemed really honest (genuinely believed in the value of Z, as I wanted to, I really enjoyed using that company until they stopped paying peeps for like the third xmas in a row). I doubt he'd still be with them

                  to anyone reading: do not use Zombaio. but if you do, do not criticize them publicly and taper down your billing through them to maximize your chance of not losing everything owed. then be public about their conduct to warn others

                  or just say fuck it, write off the balance and bump a Z thread (there are many, all over the web including here, about non-payment) to warn new peeps who may not know the history

                  sucks though. fuck them. a payment processor that doesn't pay people. for years and years as a consistent pattern of behavior

                  good luck OP
                  throwing molotav cocktails at the precinct

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                    • BigFurry
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 1574
                      #6
                      My experience as an affiliate: Zombaio doesn't pay and doesn't respond

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                        • k0nr4d
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 9231
                          #7
                          Payout issues with that company have been known for years. There are numerous threads about it. A few years back we actually removed support for them from our software because of it.
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                            • Adraco
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2009
                              • 3745
                              #8
                              Originally posted by k0nr4d
                              Payout issues with that company have been known for years. ... A few years back we actually removed support for them from our software because of it.
                              Excellent move! Can’t save everyone but at least you can save someone!

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                                • LAJ
                                  Gingerific
                                  • Jun 2001
                                  • 5567
                                  #9
                                  With all the other great processors out there, why would anyone go with them??
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                                    • Diomed
                                      Converting like it's 1999
                                      • Jan 2009
                                      • 6167
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by JesseQuinn


                                      lots of peeps don't do a lot of research before choosing a biller though. everyone should, both publicly and privately



                                      I suspect they get away with it as they are probably difficult to sue being a Euro co with a US address, and they rely on people just giving up

                                      why peeps still use them who are aware of their history of theft, think it's one of those selective paying situations. they do pay someone people sometimes, at least as long as they do good volumes and don't discuss it publicly. so the webmaster thinks everything is peachy until it's not. but quit using them after an inevitable extended payment delay (months, not days) or complain in public and kiss everything owed including reserve goodbye

                                      Jesper is a liar, yeah I said it. my azz that zombaio has an 'accounting department' that's not able to issue a payment for over a year. it's probably him and a handful of others at most, each working out of their home offices or kitchen tables, profiting off of the margin of money owed but unpaid

                                      I was lucky, saw the writing on the wall back in late 2013 when payment to everyone but me it seemed stopped. I knew I wasn't special, that at some point I'd get ripped off as well

                                      got my own merchant account and a dude from here (haven't seen him around in ages) actually helped me get every penny owed except for a very small reserve

                                      I had already switched most of my clients out to new, temporary billing options so really didn't end up getting much stolen. most of my reserve was paid out along with everything owed outright after the gfy dude got involved, as the rolling reserve was months overdue by the time I finally got paid

                                      I think he was just a temporary support person there, he seemed really honest (genuinely believed in the value of Z, as I wanted to, I really enjoyed using that company until they stopped paying peeps for like the third xmas in a row). I doubt he'd still be with them

                                      to anyone reading: do not use Zombaio. but if you do, do not criticize them publicly and taper down your billing through them to maximize your chance of not losing everything owed. then be public about their conduct to warn others

                                      or just say fuck it, write off the balance and bump a Z thread (there are many, all over the web including here, about non-payment) to warn new peeps who may not know the history

                                      sucks though. fuck them. a payment processor that doesn't pay people. for years and years as a consistent pattern of behavior

                                      good luck OP
                                      Interesting.. please tell me you had your own pay site
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                                        • JesseQuinn
                                          feeding the wolves
                                          • Aug 2012
                                          • 6620
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Diomed
                                          Interesting.. please tell me you had your own pay site
                                          nah, I sold content via dvd and magazine back in the 70's like Paul Markham. makes me an expert on everything

                                          for real though, you touched on what I thought was the real value in Z

                                          a higher percentage with no high risk cc fees made it a lower barrier to entry to new paysites without a big bankroll, trying to do their own thing and invest as much as they could in their product/content

                                          agree with Furry that no way in hell would I now promote a site that processes via Z, but for a while a lot of pay sites did use them and they and their affs did get paid

                                          for me, was just processing for me for my own clients

                                          again, good luck OP. such a shame that company is so scummy
                                          throwing molotav cocktails at the precinct

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                                            • nikki99
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                                              • Nov 2004
                                              • 23087
                                              #12
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                                                • plsureking
                                                  bored
                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                  • 4900
                                                  #13
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                                                    • celandina
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Jun 2006
                                                      • 11715
                                                      #14
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                                                        • adultchatpay
                                                          Let's Make Money
                                                          • Dec 2008
                                                          • 8785
                                                          #15
                                                          Them again.. people never learn.
                                                          At least use google search or gfy search next time.

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                                                            • plsureking
                                                              bored
                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                              • 4900
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by adultchatpay
                                                              Them again.. people never learn.
                                                              At least use google search or gfy search next time.
                                                              people want no annual fees, even if you don't get paid.

                                                              one cms client right now is having a fuck of a time getting on Verotel's free Bill service. they won't answer email. the boss Marcel won't even reply to me, let alone the client. never had problems when Jason was there.

                                                              so, my prediction, Verotel is the next one going under.

                                                              i don't know how anyone can go under with such great pandemic sales. billers should be printing money, but all the intelligent people in adult billing retired...

                                                              fuck Zombaio tho, to keep it on topic



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                                                                • bmwracer41
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • May 2013
                                                                  • 1526
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Biggest Problem

                                                                  Some of us have Tube sites with premium sections like a paysite for the tube with no commercials

                                                                  The real billers who pay, etc ( epoch, vendo, and many others) wont process because no DMCA's and required materials can be used for these videos on the tubes

                                                                  I wanted to leave when I first bought site , they finally after a mission, started paying , still like turtles but now its pure misery.

                                                                  I will be patient a little longer before I hire overseas counsel


                                                                  any contacts there would be appreciated

                                                                  Thx
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                                                                    • itx
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Aug 2007
                                                                      • 980
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by adultchatpay
                                                                      Them again.. people never learn.
                                                                      At least use google search or gfy search next time.
                                                                      A simple gfy search or google can give some insights, some posts of people in the biz:


                                                                      And others...

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                                                                        • EddyTheDog
                                                                          Just Doing My Own Thing
                                                                          • Jan 2011
                                                                          • 25433
                                                                          #19
                                                                          I'm amazed they still exist - The drama threads on here about those guys are numerous...

                                                                          I think they even sponsored the board for a while and it turned into a clusterfuck.....

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                                                                            • Mixon
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Feb 2007
                                                                              • 417
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by bmwracer41
                                                                              gUys- any one with good conatacts at Zombaio, please share


                                                                              we have had problems with payments months late, lack of support and the company seems to be getting worse then better handling ongoing problems.

                                                                              I am hoping like payvision did and strung people out knowing they were overseas


                                                                              Are their any other reputable processors who pay and can handle premium sections in Tubes sites that do not have the record keeping requirements that say an Epoch or Vendo would handle

                                                                              Really need some help

                                                                              Thanks
                                                                              As already said Zombaio don't pay
                                                                              they have been blacklisted for a long time: Blacklist

                                                                              You can check verotel, maybe there are not such requirements

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                                                                                • j3rkules
                                                                                  VIP
                                                                                  • Jul 2013
                                                                                  • 22111
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by EddyTheDog
                                                                                  I'm amazed they still exist - The drama threads on here about those guys are numerous...

                                                                                  I think they even sponsored the board for a while and it turned into a clusterfuck.....
                                                                                  Well, they are in the business because they make money since they still keep on fooling newbies.

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                                                                                    • avx
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jan 2007
                                                                                      • 84
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by plsureking
                                                                                      one cms client right now is having a fuck of a time getting on Verotel's free Bill service. they won't answer email. the boss Marcel won't even reply to me, let alone the client. never had problems when Jason was there.

                                                                                      so, my prediction, Verotel is the next one going under.
                                                                                      Not sure you can compare Zombaio scammers to Verotel... They have been in the industry for over 20 years an never missed payment as far as I know.

                                                                                      Verotel's free plan is still active, I can assure you. And anyway if your client's business is solid, point him to the premium plan. The € 500 upfront fee will be one time only, no renewal (if transaction volume is at least €100 per week, which is not much).

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                                                                                        • plsureking
                                                                                          bored
                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                          • 4900
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by avx
                                                                                          Not sure you can compare Zombaio scammers to Verotel... They have been in the industry for over 20 years an never missed payment as far as I know.
                                                                                          Zombaio is still in business, they just have a Ponzi style payout system. Every biller is scamming one way or another, or they wouldn't charge 15%+ in fees when their costs are less than 3%.

                                                                                          my "prediction" is about the future. that is what the word means.



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                                                                                            • avx
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jan 2007
                                                                                              • 84
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by plsureking
                                                                                              Zombaio is still in business, they just have a Ponzi style payout system.
                                                                                              Comparing a reputable & honest company to confirmed scammers is irrelevant. Verotel don't steal from people like Zombiao does. I've never read any topics about Verotel ripping off webmasters...

                                                                                              Every biller is scamming one way or another, or they wouldn't charge 15%+ in fees when their costs are less than 3%.
                                                                                              You cannot compare the standard 1-2% transaction fee for mainstream you get from a bank. Many parameters have an impact on fees (support, fraud screening, fines from CC networks, expenses/tricks inducted to lower chargebacks...). The high risk is both for PSP & webmasters, tehrefore, it makes sense their margin is highet than standard low risk one.

                                                                                              my "prediction" is about the future. that is what the word means.
                                                                                              You may be right, but to me predictions not based on any facts don't mean are useless.

                                                                                              Facts are here : Zombaio steals from webmasters, Verotel doesn't and we have any element they are going out of business in the close future. You could still blame them for their poor support and technical issues though ;)

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                                                                                                • CherryGirl69
                                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                                  • Dec 2010
                                                                                                  • 11
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Sweetie, they ripped me off in 2012. That's how long time they are bad boys.
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                                                                                                    • The Porn Nerd
                                                                                                      Living The Dream
                                                                                                      • Jun 2009
                                                                                                      • 19784
                                                                                                      #26
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                                                                                                        • bmwracer41
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • May 2013
                                                                                                          • 1526
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          any recommendations

                                                                                                          Yep, they probably figure people will give up...

                                                                                                          about $ 20K we are owed


                                                                                                          total scammers
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                                                                                                            • adultchatpay
                                                                                                              Let's Make Money
                                                                                                              • Dec 2008
                                                                                                              • 8785
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by bmwracer41
                                                                                                              Yep, they probably figure people will give up...

                                                                                                              about $ 20K we are owed


                                                                                                              total scammers
                                                                                                              say goodbye to your $20k.
                                                                                                              Got any responses from them yet?

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                                                                                                                • ANAL PASTE
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Mar 2006
                                                                                                                  • 9070
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
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                                                                                                                    • shimmy2
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Mar 2009
                                                                                                                      • 3271
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      waiting only 4k here.... its been years im still here waiting for zombaio to pay back whats owed me
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                                                                                                                        • Boob Bucks
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                                                                                                                          • Aug 2020
                                                                                                                          • 62
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          That is rough....it is amazing what people can get away with these days. We use CCBill and they have been steady for over 10 years.
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                                                                                                                            • sandman!
                                                                                                                              Icq: 14420613
                                                                                                                              • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                              • 15431
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              They have randomly not paid people for years
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                                                                                                                                • bmwracer41
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • May 2013
                                                                                                                                  • 1526
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  bump

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                                                                                                                                    • CurrentlySober
                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to wipe my ass
                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 38940
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by LAJ
                                                                                                                                      With all the other great processors out there, why would anyone go with them??
                                                                                                                                      its cause they dont charge the upfront visa and mastercard fees, like all the reputable billers do, & people wanna save a few bucks...


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                                                                                                                                        • NETbilling
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 8598
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by CurrentlySober
                                                                                                                                          its cause they dont charge the upfront visa and mastercard fees, like all the reputable billers do, & people wanna save a few bucks...
                                                                                                                                          That because there is no such thing and people just don’t get it I guess. If you have adult Mcc5967) you must pay reg fees.


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                                                                                                                                            • nikki99
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                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                                              • 23087
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              bump....
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                                                                                                                                                • LokoWilli
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                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2011
                                                                                                                                                  • 227
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  For those interested: ZOMBAIO website is offline since some days ago... the thieves were expectorated.. the rats start runnin'
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                                                                                                                                                    • fitzmulti
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                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 14861
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      I seriously thought this thread was started like 8 years ago - nope!


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                                                                                                                                                        • afterdark
                                                                                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2007
                                                                                                                                                          • 3
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Zombaio filed for bankruptcy

                                                                                                                                                          Zombaio filed for bankruptcy on the 16th of December, they are gone

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                                                                                                                                                            • xxxclusive
                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2012
                                                                                                                                                              • 785
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              As their website is down I can't even download invoices anymore, luckily switched biller in March 2020 but anyway Zombaio owes me estimaled $2000.

                                                                                                                                                              Legal name of Zomabio is Payment Network Systems Europe AB
                                                                                                                                                              https://www.largestcompanies.com/com...ope-AB-1110223

                                                                                                                                                              The holding is JTDW Holding AB which filed for bankrupcy on 16.12.2020 due to this source:
                                                                                                                                                              https://www.proff.se/befattningshava.../2KGALT2I0000/

                                                                                                                                                              Another debate here:
                                                                                                                                                              https://www.reddit.com/r/PaymentSyst...g_from_052020/

                                                                                                                                                              People responsible, maybe a chance to get them personally because of fraud:

                                                                                                                                                              Jesper Martin Thörnblad

                                                                                                                                                              Personnummer:
                                                                                                                                                              19790829-XXXX

                                                                                                                                                              (Styrelseledamot)



                                                                                                                                                              Karl David Jönis Venngren

                                                                                                                                                              (Extern firmatecknare)

                                                                                                                                                              Personnummer:
                                                                                                                                                              19851113-XXXX

                                                                                                                                                              Adress:
                                                                                                                                                              Strandvallen 138 E lgh 1002
                                                                                                                                                              302 57 Halmstad

                                                                                                                                                              Sebastian Viström
                                                                                                                                                              Personnummer:
                                                                                                                                                              19910125-XXXX

                                                                                                                                                              Adress:
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                                                                                                                                                              313 95 Åled

                                                                                                                                                              https://www.proff.se/befattning/jesp...ad/-/13132390/

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                                                                                                                                                                • xxxclusive
                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2012
                                                                                                                                                                  • 785
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by plsureking
                                                                                                                                                                  people want no annual fees, even if you don't get paid.

                                                                                                                                                                  one cms client right now is having a fuck of a time getting on Verotel's free Bill service. they won't answer email. the boss Marcel won't even reply to me, let alone the client. never had problems when Jason was there.

                                                                                                                                                                  so, my prediction, Verotel is the next one going under.

                                                                                                                                                                  i don't know how anyone can go under with such great pandemic sales. billers should be printing money, but all the intelligent people in adult billing retired...

                                                                                                                                                                  fuck Zombaio tho, to keep it on topic



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                                                                                                                                                                  I already wait for a reply from Verotel support for 3 weeks. Now that you mention that verotel could be next, ignoring support inquiries is always like it starts.

                                                                                                                                                                  The only high risk in this biz are those 3rd party billers.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • plsureking
                                                                                                                                                                      bored
                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                                      • 4900
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by xxxclusive
                                                                                                                                                                      I already wait for a reply from Verotel support for 3 weeks. Now that you mention that verotel could be next, ignoring support inquiries is always like it starts.

                                                                                                                                                                      The only high risk in this biz are those 3rd party billers.
                                                                                                                                                                      yea i referred a lot of business to Verotel over the years but they failed hard after Jason left. they forced a lot of clients to go thru the verification process again and they can't get any new sites live.

                                                                                                                                                                      Verotel's new "free" iBill service, which i thought would replace Zombaio, is about as shitty as Zombaio. i've referred clients there and they never get to installation.

                                                                                                                                                                      Verotel referral payments are a thing of the past, since they can't get any accounts approved. maybe they got hammered by Visa/MC.

                                                                                                                                                                      CCbill has all kinds of problems now too. weeks of review and verification and jumping thru hoops. when the install is finally live, clients have to go thru a final review from another department or two. waste of time. i think they outsourced CS to India, but that's just a wild ass guess.

                                                                                                                                                                      MobiusPay has been doing my clients right over the last couple years. They did a huge tech revamp, built a new API, and they now have hosted join pages. i've built a few custom billing solutions on their system and the gateway API works well. i've built complete checkout systems, but also simple setups with hosted join pages and postbacks. they have helpful techs who actually know the system.

                                                                                                                                                                      Who knows what the rest of the year will bring - maybe all porn will be banned from Visa - but that's where billing stands from my POV (as a guy who installs 20-50 billing accounts per year).

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                                                                                                                                                                        • nikki99
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Verotel is strong....
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                                                                                                                                                                            • LAJ
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by CurrentlySober
                                                                                                                                                                              its cause they dont charge the upfront visa and mastercard fees, like all the reputable billers do, & people wanna save a few bucks...
                                                                                                                                                                              You get what you pay for.
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                                                                                                                                                                                • SekobA
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2008
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Less or more all companies feel the crisis

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • quilibet
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2021
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 6
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      All this negativity about Zombaio! I mean, it may not have worked out too well for everyone, but some people did okay. Take co-founder John Cavebring, for instance.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Does he look down on his luck? Sure many of his companies are in liquidation or bankruptcy these days, but he's got lots more of those all over the place. And he made it into the Paradise Papers on account of his assets tucked away safe from the tax man in Malta.
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • k0nr4d
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 9231
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by SekobA
                                                                                                                                                                                          Less or more all companies feel the crisis
                                                                                                                                                                                          Eh? Unless your company is catering porn shoots I think most of us in online porn are now making more then before
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • xxxclusive
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2012
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 785
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Has anyone gotten a notification from bankruptcy court, too?

                                                                                                                                                                                              There are some which have claims over $100,000 against zombaio. I just have claims of $5000, let's see what liquidation brings and after I will go for those crooks personally.

                                                                                                                                                                                              As they didn't give me notifications, but simply stopped payouts and rebilled clients until January 2021.

                                                                                                                                                                                              From their inventory sheet those crooks even leased a Tesla as company car. Their is also a claim against wirecard which possibly finally broke zombaios neck.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • k0nr4d
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 9231
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by xxxclusive
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Has anyone gotten a notification from bankruptcy court, too?

                                                                                                                                                                                                  There are some which have claims over $100,000 against zombaio. I just have claims of $5000, let's see what liquidation brings and after I will go for those crooks personally.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  As they didn't give me notifications, but simply stopped payouts and rebilled clients until January 2021.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  From their inventory sheet those crooks even leased a Tesla as company car. Their is also a claim against wirecard which possibly finally broke zombaios neck.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I doubt you will be able to lift the veal of limited liability and even trying for $5k internationally is a waste of time and money. You are unlikely to win and you will spend 2x that on lawyers in Sweden at least. You would have to be able to prove that the CEO knew that the company was insolvent and continued to run it, and the CEO has to actually have assets in his name - you cannot get blood from a stone.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • xxxclusive
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2012
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 785
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      I know that's why I look here for people to join a group. There is also a method called "European Small Claims procedure", it's about 90 EUR and one doesnt need a lawyer first.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      https://europa.eu/youreurope/busines...e/index_en.htm

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Or simply go for vacation in sweden, visit their adresses and solve it old style.

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