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  • lockept93
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    • Apr 2019
    • 854
    #1

    How much budget to make a website like OnlyFans?

    If you would count everything together - how much investion money you think is needed to create and make it work? (I'm not talking about marketing - just the creation of a service like this.)

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        • Ferus
          Bye - Left to do stuff
          • Feb 2013
          • 4108
          #3
          Depend on how you want it to scale, and how much traffic you have in mind.

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            • lockept93
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              • Apr 2019
              • 854
              #4
              Originally posted by Ferus
              Depend on how you want it to scale, and how much traffic you have in mind.
              I just talk about the creation process - I know with so many user like OnlyFans you have support and other employees, but that would not count yet.

              Just imagine a copy of that with 0 users.
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                • MaDalton
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                  #5
                  $50-$100k initially
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                    • plsureking
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                      • Aug 2003
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                      #6
                      Originally posted by MaDalton
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                        • lockept93
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                          • Apr 2019
                          • 854
                          #7
                          Originally posted by plsureking
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                            • wankawonk
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                              • Aug 2015
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                              #8
                              if you can code it you could do it for basically free

                              marketing and building your team and getting your operations running smoothly, those are the real expenses/challenges here. not building the service.

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                                • MaDalton
                                  I am Amazing Content!
                                  • Feb 2004
                                  • 39861
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by plsureking
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                                  I guess it's how you value your time and whether you trust the person who runs it to make it profitable. ;)

                                  I would never build something like that on promises.

                                  And of course hourly rates can vary a lot.
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                                    • Brian mike
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                                        • plsureking
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                                          • Aug 2003
                                          • 4904
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by MaDalton
                                          I guess it's how you value your time and whether you trust the person who runs it to make it profitable. ;)

                                          I would never build something like that on promises.

                                          And of course hourly rates can vary a lot.
                                          most of my projects are automated income these days, so i dont mind taking on a project if its fun and has good management/partnership.

                                          it reduces the boredom

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                                            • Ferus
                                              Bye - Left to do stuff
                                              • Feb 2013
                                              • 4108
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by lockept93
                                              I just talk about the creation process - I know with so many user like OnlyFans you have support and other employees, but that would not count yet.

                                              Just imagine a copy of that with 0 users.
                                              That is not how it works when you need to be able to scale out. You have a 2005 mindst regarding architect ure.

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                                                • lockept93
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                                                  • Apr 2019
                                                  • 854
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Ferus
                                                  That is not how it works when you need to be able to scale out. You have a 2005 mindst regarding architect ure.
                                                  No I don't have a mindset from 2005 - I don't understand why u think that.
                                                  All I was asking is how much would it costs just to create the base. Coding working hours.

                                                  I know that there is a different level of running a company like this in this scale - but that's a thing I can imagine by myself.

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                                                    • Mediamix
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                                                      #14
                                                      You also need the right contacts in your network.. ;)
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                                                        • Brit in Cambodia
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                                                          • Nov 2019
                                                          • 117
                                                          #15
                                                          If you could code you could largely do it yourself, of course there are other not code related tasks like setting up merchants accounts and model verification.

                                                          Can girls stream on only fans or is it just uploaded videos and pictures?


                                                          Getting streaming set up would be the hardest part... probably.

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                                                            • lockept93
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                                                              • Apr 2019
                                                              • 854
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Brit in Cambodia
                                                              If you could code you could largely do it yourself, of course there are other not code related tasks like setting up merchants accounts and model verification.

                                                              Can girls stream on only fans or is it just uploaded videos and pictures?


                                                              Getting streaming set up would be the hardest part... probably.


                                                              I don't know if it's possible on OF but anyway I would not do something like that.
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                                                                • MaDalton
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  btw - i love the answers that say "if you can code, you can do it yourself".

                                                                  If I had ovaries, I could also have my own children. ;)

                                                                  And if you make money already, you know how much your own hours are worth and whether it makes more sense to pay someone to do something cause it will cost you less than neglecting the work which makes you more.
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                                                                    • plsureking
                                                                      bored
                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                      • 4904
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Brit in Cambodia
                                                                      Getting streaming set up would be the hardest part... probably.
                                                                      i plugged a PornCMS backend into fetishmodelnetwork. it sends the video over to the cms, and returns the converted video when its done. basically the same thing FB does, but my backend is a lot better LOL

                                                                      i was doing the conversions on-the-fly, which was good for anything under a couple minutes, but we started getting long videos.


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                                                                        • nikki99
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                                                                            • Klen
                                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                                              • 32235
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                              btw - i love the answers that say "if you can code, you can do it yourself".

                                                                              If I had ovaries, I could also have my own children. ;)

                                                                              And if you make money already, you know how much your own hours are worth and whether it makes more sense to pay someone to do something cause it will cost you less than neglecting the work which makes you more.
                                                                              One of advantage of knowing to code is how you can automate most of regular tasks, so you have free time to do thing like... coding

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                                                                                • lockept93
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                                                                                  • Apr 2019
                                                                                  • 854
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Ok, now we all know that hourly rates can be between 0.01 and 1000$
                                                                                  So maybe it's better to ask in a different way:

                                                                                  How many hours coding would need a website like OF?
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                                                                                    • ilnjscb
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                                                                                      • Jun 2009
                                                                                      • 8972
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Talent will only come if you pay out better than 80%. How will you receive payments? How will you pay talent? How will you handle chargebacks and attacks?

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                                                                                        • MaDalton
                                                                                          I am Amazing Content!
                                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                                          • 39861
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by lockept93
                                                                                          Ok, now we all know that hourly rates can be between 0.01 and 1000$
                                                                                          So maybe it's better to ask in a different way:

                                                                                          How many hours coding would need a website like OF?
                                                                                          I calculated 600-800 hours plus external costs like graphic design
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                                                                                            • wankawonk
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by lockept93
                                                                                              Ok, now we all know that hourly rates can be between 0.01 and 1000$
                                                                                              So maybe it's better to ask in a different way:

                                                                                              How many hours coding would need a website like OF?
                                                                                              there's no real answer to that

                                                                                              I could code up a working clone in two weeks (100 hours).

                                                                                              would payments be completely secure? would the content reporting system be mature? would there be systems in place to find and remove illegal/underage content? does the model dashboard have bugs in it? what about when you want to start upselling the johns with email campaigns?

                                                                                              Those things would be on-going processes that would require professional attention over weeks, months, years.

                                                                                              I learned years ago, no code survives production without having to be fixed or improved or changed in some way.

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                                                                                                • plsureking
                                                                                                  bored
                                                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                                                  • 4904
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  the real question is can you even afford to build this? or just trying to annoy all the programmers on the board?



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                                                                                                    • Mickey_
                                                                                                      • Nov 2005
                                                                                                      • 4238
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by lockept93
                                                                                                      No I don't have a mindset from 2005 - I don't understand why u think that.
                                                                                                      All I was asking is how much would it costs just to create the base. Coding working hours.

                                                                                                      I know that there is a different level of running a company like this in this scale - but that's a thing I can imagine by myself.

                                                                                                      If you want be competetive with OF you need millions.
                                                                                                      He meant scaling in terms of the architecture/tech side, not marketing and HR. Nearly anyone can build you a clone of OF. Even better you can probably buy an out ot the box clone with the source code for a few thousand max. There’s no shortage of them. Will that code be scalable when you’ve outgrown the ~100 concurrent visitors limit of the platform (that you weren’t aware of) you paid for? 99% chance it will not and you’ll have to start from scratch.


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                                                                                                        • Ferus
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                                                                                                          • Feb 2013
                                                                                                          • 4108
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                                          I calculated 600-800 hours plus external costs like graphic design
                                                                                                          Lets entertain that thought for a second, and say you want build a MVP clone of OF, and you want to aim for a application maturity level 2.. not 3 or 4, just a easy 2.

                                                                                                          From the first meeting with the developer and the first fireframe on a whiteboard/sprint-overview, lets say they can do it in 3 months, and calculate based on that

                                                                                                          2 developers
                                                                                                          1 project manager (25% time)
                                                                                                          1 UX person

                                                                                                          160 hours each month normal EU time: = 1560 hours


                                                                                                          That is first production-ready version, then how much do you think they need to work on over the next year? 50-80 hours a month(one person). That is another 600-800 hours easily

                                                                                                          So that is around 2000 hours the first year. Lets say they use cheap east-Europe (good standard) developers at around €50/hours = €100.000,-

                                                                                                          And that is for a site that dont even come close to the capacity and function-level of OF

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                                                                                                            • King Mark
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                                                                                                              • Aug 2016
                                                                                                              • 27033
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              At this point it's like trying to create another Instagram. Better off doing something different. Onlyfans is mainstream af.

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                                                                                                                • Klen
                                                                                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                  • 32235
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by King Mark
                                                                                                                  At this point it's like trying to create another Instagram. Better off doing something different. Onlyfans is mainstream af.
                                                                                                                  True, a lot of instagram models which normaly would not do any kind of porn are there.

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                                                                                                                    • CaptainHowdy
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                                                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                      • 94731
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Klen
                                                                                                                      True, a lot of instagram models which normaly would not do any kind of porn are there.
                                                                                                                      All those girls that think they're beyond porn, they're actually porn.

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                                                                                                                        • MDT
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                                                                                                                          • Jul 2015
                                                                                                                          • 100
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          I think that promotion will take 95% of you budget. 5% - is service of coders and designers.

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                                                                                                                            • MaDalton
                                                                                                                              I am Amazing Content!
                                                                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                              • 39861
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Ferus
                                                                                                                              Lets entertain that thought for a second, and say you want build a MVP clone of OF, and you want to aim for a application maturity level 2.. not 3 or 4, just a easy 2.

                                                                                                                              From the first meeting with the developer and the first fireframe on a whiteboard/sprint-overview, lets say they can do it in 3 months, and calculate based on that

                                                                                                                              2 developers
                                                                                                                              1 project manager (25% time)
                                                                                                                              1 UX person

                                                                                                                              160 hours each month normal EU time: = 1560 hours


                                                                                                                              That is first production-ready version, then how much do you think they need to work on over the next year? 50-80 hours a month(one person). That is another 600-800 hours easily

                                                                                                                              So that is around 2000 hours the first year. Lets say they use cheap east-Europe (good standard) developers at around €50/hours = €100.000,-

                                                                                                                              And that is for a site that dont even come close to the capacity and function-level of OF
                                                                                                                              Yeah, you are probably right, i just guessed very roughly.

                                                                                                                              The thing is: when someone asks in public, the chances of that person actually following through with this are zero anyways.

                                                                                                                              And those who have the knowledge to turn this into profit know that coding is only a small part of the overall project and just simply have it built without making much fuss about it.
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                                                                                                                                • Ferus
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                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2013
                                                                                                                                  • 4108
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by MaDalton

                                                                                                                                  And those who have the knowledge to turn this into profit know that coding is only a small part of the overall project and just simply have it built without making much fuss about it.
                                                                                                                                  Spot on!

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                                                                                                                                    • plsureking
                                                                                                                                      bored
                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 4904
                                                                                                                                      #34
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                                                                                                                                        • Brit in Cambodia
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                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2019
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/m...ions-z9vhq9c9s worth a read

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                                                                                                                                            • plsureking
                                                                                                                                              bored
                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 4904
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Brit in Cambodia
                                                                                                                                              https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/m...ions-z9vhq9c9s worth a read
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                                                                                                                                                • meetinchat
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  I coded my site by myself. If I had to pay me the total was about 50k $ according to a decent hour rate.
                                                                                                                                                  Unfortunately my site doesn't worth 50k to achieve this ammount with banners, links and blog post it will take years
                                                                                                                                                  How do you consider this? A flop?


                                                                                                                                                  I agree with the Ferus estimation. It seems really realistic.
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                                                                                                                                                        • AlfalfaReborn
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
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                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 4904
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                                                                                                                                                                          • 4904
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Relentless
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                                                                                                                                                                            • AmeliaG
                                                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                              • 10663
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by plsureking
                                                                                                                                                                              its based on wowonder, although i've been off their version track for a long time. i customized a lot of the features, plus added the entire billing setup for subscriptions and tips.

                                                                                                                                                                              wowonder:
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                                                                                                                                                                              the tech is the easy part. getting models to stay active is the hard part..

                                                                                                                                                                              good luck!

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                                                                                                                                                                                • AmeliaG
                                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 10663
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Ferus
                                                                                                                                                                                  Lets entertain that thought for a second, and say you want build a MVP clone of OF, and you want to aim for a application maturity level 2.. not 3 or 4, just a easy 2.

                                                                                                                                                                                  From the first meeting with the developer and the first fireframe on a whiteboard/sprint-overview, lets say they can do it in 3 months, and calculate based on that

                                                                                                                                                                                  2 developers
                                                                                                                                                                                  1 project manager (25% time)
                                                                                                                                                                                  1 UX person

                                                                                                                                                                                  160 hours each month normal EU time: = 1560 hours


                                                                                                                                                                                  That is first production-ready version, then how much do you think they need to work on over the next year? 50-80 hours a month(one person). That is another 600-800 hours easily

                                                                                                                                                                                  So that is around 2000 hours the first year. Lets say they use cheap east-Europe (good standard) developers at around €50/hours = €100.000,-

                                                                                                                                                                                  And that is for a site that dont even come close to the capacity and function-level of OF

                                                                                                                                                                                  2 developers because that shortens the timeline to launch and later to adjust or because there are multiple skill sets needed?
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • plsureking
                                                                                                                                                                                      bored
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 4904
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by AmeliaG
                                                                                                                                                                                      Is that open source? Would you be able to sell adult billing add-ons and have the licensee be able to implement?
                                                                                                                                                                                      open source, yes.

                                                                                                                                                                                      releasing proprietary upgrades, sorry no can do do.

                                                                                                                                                                                      https://fetishmodelnetwork.com is paying out 80% to models and directors on tips and subscriptions. highest in the industry.

                                                                                                                                                                                      10% affiliate payouts off the top too.

                                                                                                                                                                                      just post there and save yourself dev cost..

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • sandman!
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • candyflip
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              You can buy a script for $99 and built it off of Wordpress pretty cheaply and easily.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • plsureking
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by candyflip
                                                                                                                                                                                                  You can buy a script for $99 and built it off of Wordpress pretty cheaply and easily.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  easy at first glance

                                                                                                                                                                                                  wait until partners and members start asking for upgrades.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  (you better have a programmer)


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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • theS2O
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by lockept93
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