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  • xxxclusive
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2012
    • 785

    #16
    Originally posted by SpicyM
    ..or simply file a criminal complaint for copyright infringement and let the police do their work. Costs nothing.
    Would maybe work in western countries, but even here you would need a bullet proof IP, name and adress as evidence. Moreover copyright infringement is that common it will have low priority for police.

    And good luck trying to get police into action in Russia or eastern Europe and Asia for copyright infringement of porn movies...

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    • SpicyM
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2006
      • 4575

      #17
      Originally posted by xxxclusive
      Would maybe work in western countries, but even here you would need a bullet proof IP, name and adress as evidence. Moreover copyright infringement is that common it will have low priority for police.

      And good luck trying to get police into action in Russia or eastern Europe and Asia for copyright infringement of porn movies...

      It's their job to find out the IP and the address. I agree that police in 3rd world shitholes won't probably cooperate, but even simple questioning of the thief would be a good start. Also many of these pirates host in EU. I doubt hosting companies would risk being labeled as supporters of criminals when the police start to investigate their clients.
      no sig, sorry

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      • celandina
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jun 2006
        • 11715

        #18
        New rule:

        Any site which has a DMCA take down on their site is at best inherently dishonest or at worst pirates.

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        • Dickjagger1
          Registered User
          • Jun 2019
          • 98

          #19
          Originally posted by celandina
          New rule:

          Any site which has a DMCA take down on their site is at best inherently dishonest or at worst pirates.
          Why is that? I have a DMCA notice on my sites, and I don't think I'm dishonest. All of my content right now is scraped from Pornhub and other big sites, and I have no idea whether it's infringing or not. I assume if it's there it's most likely legal, but if somebody contacts me, I will take down anything they ask.
          I occasionally post sober.

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          • xxxclusive
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2012
            • 785

            #20
            Originally posted by SpicyM
            It's their job to find out the IP and the address.
            Imho very theroretical. Have you tried it and how did it turn out?

            A friend once reported a porn site which simulates snuff situations with slaughtering and lots of blood to Europol a year ago, that site is still online.

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            • xxxclusive
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2012
              • 785

              #21
              Originally posted by fliperss

              One example of how to work PORNTREX
              No one will react to this, you must use a professional DMCA note and enter all infringing links.

              Porntrex at least takes down content quite fast. There are a few other sites which don't even provide any contact email so you have to figure out their host via IP and often behind cloudlare (which helps if you contact them).

              I ended then at OVH, but their abuse emal seems dead, so they never reacted to my DMCA, theoretically I could now sue OVH directly and I will check this option if find the time and a lawyer for such cases.

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              • celandina
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jun 2006
                • 11715

                #22
                Originally posted by Dickjagger1
                Why is that? I have a DMCA notice on my sites, and I don't think I'm dishonest. All of my content right now is scraped from Pornhub and other big sites, and I have no idea whether it's infringing or not. I assume if it's there it's most likely legal, but if somebody contacts me, I will take down anything they ask.
                "Scraping" from a thief ( like PornHub) is no excuse. NO different then this: " No officer, I have paid three dollars for this brand new iPhone to a man in a suit, how did I know it was stolen ? "

                Most so called webmasters are so lazy that they don't even bother to look what they are scraping. So a bit of an advice. If it is NOT watermarked or longer then 10 minutes it is stolen. How is that?

                My view (albeit slightly bias) is, that tubes and the like schemes are basically dishonest. Unfortunately this, what I call "shit recycling", is a " normal" business now.

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                • SpicyM
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 4575

                  #23
                  Originally posted by xxxclusive
                  Imho very theroretical. Have you tried it and how did it turn out?

                  A friend once reported a porn site which simulates snuff situations with slaughtering and lots of blood to Europol a year ago, that site is still online.

                  Haven't tried it yet, but I plan to discuss this with my lawyer. The police is obliged to act when you report a crime and copyright infringement is a crime. Many years ago when people used CD burners they actually went after those who created and sold illegal copies of PC games, software and films. Not sure how successful they were, but it costs nothing to try.

                  Regarding the site you describe - the obscenity laws are different in each country, maybe such content is legal in the coutry where the owner of the website operates? There are countries where extreme porn is legal.
                  no sig, sorry

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                  • jsmih
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 334

                    #24
                    Below is the DCMA template I use, which has had pretty good results. One item that has helped is sending the email using an email with the same domain as the site if possible (e.g., [email protected]).

                    This letter is really just a reformat of the things their DCMA page says they need for a claim, so it's not anything special.

                    If their system uses an online form, versus an email address for DCMA claims, I just paste the whole thing in their form.

                    -------------------------------

                    This letter is official notification under Section 512(c) of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (”DMCA”), and I seek the removal of the aforementioned infringing material, and notify you to cease any further posting or hosting of infringing [[[[[[ your website]]]]].com material in the future.

                    Infringing video on your site:

                    [[[[[ list porntrex.com urls here ]]]]]]


                    Video stolen from:

                    [[[[[ list domingoview.com urls here ]]]]]]

                    Please also be advised that the law requires you, as a service provider, to remove or disable access to the infringing materials upon receiving this notice. Under US law a service provider, such as yourself, enjoys immunity from a copyright lawsuit provided that you act with deliberate speed to investigate and rectify ongoing copyright infringement. If service providers do not investigate and remove or disable the infringing material this immunity is lost. Therefore, in order for you to remain immune from a copyright infringement action you will need to investigate and ultimately remove or otherwise disable the infringing material from your servers with all due speed should the direct infringer, your client, not comply immediately.

                    I am providing this notice in good faith and with the reasonable belief that rights I own are being infringed. I have a good faith belief that use of the aforementioned material is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agents, or the law. Under penalty of perjury I certify that the information contained in the notification is both true and accurate, and I have the authority to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright(s) involved.

                    Should you wish to discuss this with me please contact me directly.

                    Thank you.
                    signed/[[[[[ your name]]]]]
                    [[[[[ other contact information they require ]]]]]

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                    • Yanks_Todd
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 2493

                      #25
                      I believe the best pressure point is not at the host level, but at the $$$ level. A better thread might be to ask Flirt4free why they are doing business with them?

                      Point out they they are making money off of theives of some of their other partners. Ask them if they work off a shared blacklist with other cam companies.

                      Same with dating and ads.

                      They will get another cam account, ad company and dating sponsor, but every time they switch it will be a headache and they will get a less scrupulous partner.

                      The problem with this industry is that people think to clean it up we all need to make less money. That isn't true, we just need to isolate and cut out the cancers and redirect their share internally.
                      Todd Spaits - Co-founder -YanksCash
                      Premium ad-packages available - Skype for details - tmspaits

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                      • Dickjagger1
                        Registered User
                        • Jun 2019
                        • 98

                        #26
                        Originally posted by SpicyM
                        Haven't tried it yet, but I plan to discuss this with my lawyer. The police is obliged to act when you report a crime and copyright infringement is a crime. Many years ago when people used CD burners they actually went after those who created and sold illegal copies of PC games, software and films. Not sure how successful they were, but it costs nothing to try.
                        I would be shocked if you get any movement with the police. I don't know where you are located, but in the US copyright infringement is generally a civil matter unless it's a really large-scale piracy ring or something.
                        I occasionally post sober.

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                        • INever
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 4029

                          #27
                          The card companies process these filelockers, including some very dodgy ones. That's the pressure point cause it exposes them as the hypocritical ***** that they are.
                          I love Camdough

                          airvpn

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                          • Yanks_Todd
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 2493

                            #28
                            Originally posted by INever
                            The card companies process these filelockers, including some very dodgy ones. That's the pressure point cause it exposes them as the hypocritical ***** that they are.
                            I agree. Most of the industry's problem could be solved with KYC policies and holding the prominent companies of the biz accountable to not working with the shitbags and criminals.

                            Again, this doesn't need to make the pie smaller, it just changes who gets pieces and how big they are. There is work to be done and that works costs money and it front loaded, but it would be worth it.
                            Todd Spaits - Co-founder -YanksCash
                            Premium ad-packages available - Skype for details - tmspaits

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                            • xxxclusive
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 785

                              #29
                              Just got feeback from an adult biz lawyer about cost situation in the US, dont know if it's similiar in EU:

                              If you’re a small company a copyright infringement lawsuit can be very expensive. In the US most of the copyright infringement lawsuits will cost between €100,000 and €250,000. It’s simply not worth filing a lawsuit unless you are losing millions of euros.

                              What I do suggest is that you apply for and secure US trademark on the logo that you use to watermark your videos with.

                              Read this, it will explain it further;

                              https://adultbizlaw.com/2012/11/15/p...content-theft/


                              Regards

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                              • xxxclusive
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 785

                                #30
                                It seems I can report a success.

                                https://www.onlyfullporn.com had my whole site ripped and even didnt provide any contact email to file a dmca.

                                Then I did the following:
                                - googled "whois onlyfullporn.com" -> got IP
                                - googled for IP -> found it points to cloudflare
                                - contacted cloudflare abuse department (https://www.cloudflare.com/abuse/form) about this IP -> they replied and forwarded DMCA to OVH
                                - I filed another DMCA directly to hoster https://www.ovh.com/world/abuse/

                                Now it seems only full porn is completely down.

                                It's important to get the host, then they lose the whole server and website.

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