Cincinnati riots and violence

*sigh*

too bad we arent all in a classroom.
this would be a fun argument. since, i graduated with an economics degree, i do believe that too often racism is an economical situation. plus, it makes people "happy" to say poor vs rich rather than black vs white.

oddly, enough i would probably agree with slick. i dont think he said it in these words. but, the basic story is that a cop shot a suspect, and he died. that should be the story. but, the media and groups such as the naacp just feed off material like this. what better propaganda than an "innocent" black man being shot by "trigger happy" white cops.

i think black america needs to wake up. there are much worse things that effect them than someone being shot. i would focus on economics, education, teen pregnancy, aids, and drugs. i dont want to be calledgrand wizard of the klu klux klan for spouting off factual statistics. so, i wont. but, go look in your almanac or on the web. they are quiet staggering and after spending almost a year researching the subjects and how they relate to public education, it is quiet sickening.

btw the majority of serial killers are white christian males. no just simply white males. maybe that will be our next topic..."crackers gone crazy"

just as a side note to add more fuel to the fire. does anyone watch mtv's road rules vs real world challenge? basically, its a bunch of kids put together to compete on missions(ie obstacle courses, etc..) against each other. the story is this...there was a guy from norway. he knew little of american culture. well, one day he walks into the bus and starts to tell a joke. he says ****** in the joke. he was telling this to a group of people, and one of the black girls on the show attacked him physically. even after a few days went by, she said she would of done the same thing. why? is she a violent person? i hope not. but, i felt she was programmed to react in a violent way in an attempt to stand up for the color of her skin. the story gets even worse. the norwegian didnt understand why she attacked him. others then proceeded to tell him that saying the "n-word" is not politically correct. his response was "i dont understand. [one of the black girls names on the show] and [one of the black guys names on the show] say ****** all the time." i thought the worse part was when one of the other black girls on the show told him "its ok for us[black people] to say it because we are black. but, its not right for white people to say it". anyways, im not sure why i wrote that. but, i think its a great example of american hypocrisy. in the words of ray bradbury, "oh, what a tangled web we weave."

Well, I may not know Cincinnati but being from a small, West Texas town, I do know my racism.

Whee doggies there sure is a lot of it! Sometimes it's subtle. Sometimes it's understood. Sometimes it's evident in folks and they don't even know it.

Of course around here, most of the violence is spread across the racial divides pretty well. Maybe cause we are a sparsly populated area.

But just like all of America, we got the black part of town, the hispanic part of town, the asian part of town and of course the upper and lower white parts of town.

I haven't read a darned thing about the riots except for the headlines and the teevee blurbs about it.

To just destroy property is usually the pastime of sports fans. To riot means there is apparently something terribly, racially wrong in Cincinnati.



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I personally think that these people are stupid for tearing up their own things! How stupid can you be! Nobody gives a damn about these people tearing up their shit so what's the point? I have nothing further to say except it's sad that most other countries behave better than we do! Americans need to get beyond the stereotypes and the "i'm better than you" attitude. When will it end?

Finally a word from the white trash segment of our audience.

Why is that "worse"? A "hate" word when used by 2 members of the same group (that the word is referring to) is much less harsh. Like 2 women calling each other bitch or 2 gay men calling each other faggot.

And what the hell does that quote have to do with anything?

warphead,
its simple. i guess you cant see that though. if you want people to stop calling you names, you must first stop calling others by that same name.

its like if i went to yankee stadium. put on my yankees hat and said haha yankees suck to someone of the same color skin. but, if someone one of a different color skin told me the yankees sucked, i would be affended and act in violence? i think not. my analogy may be just plain stupid. but, thats my point. blacks calling blacks nigga/****** isnt helping the racial slur situation. the norwegian would of never known that word if it werent for black people saying it all the time during the filming of the shows.

Racism is socially genetic. Animals who live in groups, more often than not, shun outcasts or non-members of their pack, group, pride or whatever who "do not belong"

my uncle used to have a dog that only barked at people with a darker skin colour, be they black, indian, or whatever... a racist dog

anyway the point is, that I always thought the human race was smart enough to overcome ethinc, religious or racist differences- without killing each other

I guess not

If I am White Trash, what does that make you?


I think I am going to cry everyone. Warphead hurt my feelings with his/her racial slur towards me! LOL

every week or so, we hear about a pitbull attack on a person. Because of this, I keep my family clear of pitbulls. I've labled ALL of them potentially dangerous.

Every DAY we hear about black, inner city thugs killing people, robbing, and causing mayhem. Is it racist to lable them potentially dangerous or is it just common sense?

Also, April, please explain away these random attacks on white motorists and the destruction of property. I'm sure your rightous indignation covers these actions too.
You want to protect your son? Don't raise him to be a thug.

You bunch of ignorant cocksucking bigots!

Slick, you ask "When was the last time whites rioted?"

Guess you cant seem to recall when certain hockey teams lost in the NHL, the fans rioted and looted!
hmmm, lemme think again, Seattle, etc.

The problem is it isn't simple. It's something complicated you're looking at simply.

When a group of people "take" the word that's used to denegrate them it's a form of empowerment. It's like saying "this is our word now, you don't have the power to hurt me with it anymore."

Perfect example is "queer". When gay people started embracing it - it took away alot of its negative connotation.

They can't make the words disappear, so they take control of them, change the meaning and the implications.

My family is Irish, only been here a couple generations. If I call you a mick or a bogjumper, you know I don't mean it harshly or I'd be insulting myself and my family too. But if some Brit did it, you'd probably find it more annoying.

Literate? Intelligent? Non-inbred?

Gee Warphead, you are such a genius. I wish I were as smart as someone like yourself!

Intelligent people don't make such bombastic comments!



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Is that a DVD player I smell?

Yeah, Slick, be sure you tell people "I got this DVD player from the riot in Cincinnatti."

Ha ha ha Warphead, that's true, I didn't even have to do any looting to get a DVD player, he he he.

WOW, 12clicks hit the nail RIGHT on the head. I couldn't have said that better myself. He's exactly right, that's how we think.

Pimp, ok, so maybe I did overlook the riots from the ignorant white people that go nuts when their team wins or loses a game.

HOWEVER, can you tell me the one difference between the 2 riots ???? I'll tell ya. In the white riots stemming off of sporting events, have you ever heard of whites attacking black people ??? FUCK NO !! You hear about them tipping over cars and shit, which is STILL definately not called for, but they don't go hurting others like the blacks do when they riot. Look at the riot in LA, the truck driver Reginal, he was pulled from his truck and got the shit beat outta him, didn't they even use a brick on him, that was PURE BLACK HATE TOWARDS WHITES, he probably got beat worse than Rodney King in that beating. That riot was totally fucking uncalled for. The cops didn't even have to kill anyone to get a riot.

Do you ever hear of blacks attacking blacks in their riots ?? nope, they go after innocent whites.

If they wanna change the way that people view them, maybe they should act civilized and they'll be viewed differently. Go back up and read 12clicks comments, that explains it in a way that totally makes sense.

...and from 12click's perspective, he'd be avoiding the whole human race. So because he's heard a few black's run amuck, should he be weary of them all?
Case in point, Amado Diallo, innocent african man just trying to make a living, shot 44 times by the NYPD. Should I avoid and label all white NYPD officers as racist pigs? NO!

You see where his and your thoughts are skewed?

Slick, you're siding with 12clicks... think about that for a minute.

And he's wrong, what he's doing is a logical fallacy. For example: I'm white, I think you're a turd - thus all whites think you're a turd. Not true at all my friend, there are at least a couple out there that don't think you're a turd.

It's a gross generalization, a way to twist statistics.

The ethnic group least likely to commit a violent crime in the US is the Asians. Does that mean I should go to Chinatown in the middle of the night and tell everyone I just cashed my tax-return? Ever heard of the Yakuza or the Tong?

This is exactly the same logic you and 12clicks are using to condemn an entire race of people.

The thing is most of them are acting civilized, it just doesn't make the news.

I'm sure most of the black people in Cincinatti were hiding or watching it on TV, and I'm sure every black person in America wasn't involved - but people like you and 12clicks don't notice them, you make your judgements on the bad ones.

The thing that bothers me is when you see the atrocities that white people have committed, why don't you judge white people based on that?

White people destroyed the Native Americans, perpetrated the holocost, enslaved the blacks, and murdered millions of other whites in the name of God.

Blaming all black people for the ones you see on the news is just like a black person blaming you for slavery.

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I think Your all Wrong, HA.

Did you see any 30 year old or 40 year old black people out there rioting? NO

What about any white riots? did you see any 30 or 40 year old white people out there rioting? NO (aside from the KKK they're just clowns)

so what is this topic about? Its not about black or white. Its about the ignorance of YOUTH who don't anaylse a situation. Its about being imature fucks. Its about uneducated YOUTH who think irrationally.

The YOUTH involved didn't see at as a cop doing his job, they saw at as an attack against their race, a time where they felt compelled to rebel to protect there race, when they are only making people pass judgement on them

Face the facts racism is not about colour or race. It is about uneducated YOUTH.

Bloods and the Crips; constant battle amongst each other. why are they fighting each other? the majority of either party is black. I guess it comes back to uneducated youth.

Muff

P.S. tell president Bush instead of worrying about internet porn he should be worried about whats going on in his streets.

Maybe we can get prime minister whatchmacallit to do something aswell.

I also live close to cincy.
Been there a lot of times. That city has had trouble for years. The cops have a real hard time there. The threat of their live gets greater each day. These roits are happening in other sities too.
For some reason, I don't no why.
It usually is generated by the black community.
I was living in St.Petersburg Florida on the south side where the same thing happend.
It pisses me off when any race starts rioting.
Most of the time they don't even know the details of what happend until later on.
One person starts it and then others join.
If you watch the the news footage almost all of the rioters where keeping there eye on the cameras to see if they were being taped.
More or less showing off for the news media.
I could type for hours on this subject.
But what would it matter.
If you want to act like animals then expect to be treated like animals.

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if I'm wrong, my family is safe, if I'm right, my family is safe.
You can SAY the same thing but it wouldn't be true.

Warphead, this is a topic that has no definate answer. With 12clicks comments, they are right. What about Pitbulls ??? I'm sure that after hearing of their attacks on the news, many people are afraid of them, even though I'm sure that there's many of them that are nice.

Next you say that most blacks do act civilized, the thing is that you never really hear about that. You hear about black riots, you hear about blacks killing people, you hear Whitney Houston is a druggy, Bobby Brown, her hubby beats the fuck outta her. You see black football players on trial for murder, getting arrested for drug charges. Look at music, what about Puff Daddy ?? Everywhere you look there's a black person in trouble in one way or another. THAT'S what paints the picture for a lot of us. We see all of that and sure there are many people that don't act like that, but it's all that we see.

The thing is that I'm not blaming ALL black people for what's going on. The rioting was caused by black people. I'm sure that what happend really pissed off people like you and April. Do you see other white people sitting in the rioting side by side with the blacks, hell no, because they'd be laying on the ground getting the shit beat outta them. Like I say before, in these riots, they don't attack their own race, they go after others WHICH is a direct attack on whites. You should head down to Ohio and join in with their riots and see what they do to you.

As far as your comments go about if one person thinks that I'm a turd, then everyone should. That's really hard to go by because you're talking about ONE person. If MANY people thought that I was a turd, then there'd probably be significant information on me that I am a turd. That's how it is becuase it's not just me that thinks this way, there's others, so there is good reason to believe so.

Sure, some of the shit that happend in the past with whites isn't right like with what happend over in Germany, that was totally stupid. The thing is that stuff was in the past and this is now.

Muff has some good points in his comments. He's absolutely right about the young people doing all of the rioting, so I guess that it is partially about the ignorance of youth.

In Pimp's comments -
"Case in point, Amado Diallo, innocent african man just trying to make a living, shot 44 times by the NYPD. Should I avoid and label all white NYPD officers as racist pigs? NO!"

The thing is that black's DO label white cops as being bad, so they do the same thing that I'm doing now right ???


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See Slick, there you go again speaking for a whole race..

The thing is that black's DO label white cops as being bad, so they do the same thing that I'm doing now right ???

I am black and do not label white cops as being bad, so you're off by one. There are cocksuckers in every profession, lawyers, cops, hotel clerks, adult webmasters, etc...

Wow Pimp, there goes some of that black hatred towards whites again. I've noticed your little bold type for "Adult Webmasters" when you put that there's cocksuckers in every profession, so in other words, you're hinting that I'm a cocksucker.

Man, one thing that I never did was come out and call any of the blacks any nasty names. Sure you didn't call me one directly, but I took what you meant. Even after your words against me, I'm good enough that I don't have to toss more bad words back at you. Like I say, I have nothing against the black race, we're all created equal, some just don't know how to react to problems.

I guess that this is another instance to add to my list of where we get bad impressions from blacks.

[This message has been edited by Slick (edited 04-15-2001).]

So by avoiding black people and pit bulls you're family is safe? If you're saying "on the safe-side" it might me reasonable, but do you really think all danger comes from either blacks or pit bulls?

Did you know a white man is 8 times more likely to be a child-molester than a black man?

Slick don't get me started on Pit bulls, I love mine more than life itself.

I don't see what past/present matters. I just mentioned a statistic about whites being child molesters, do you think most white men are child molesters?

I agree with you 100% when you say Muff is on to something. Young people cause almost all of our problems.

EXACTLY! That's what caused the riots and they were wrong too. If everybody only blamed the people who actually deserved it everything would be peachy.

Warphead, I actually have a pitbull myself, it's part pitbull, part German Sheppard. His mom was a totally tame dog and she was 100% pure pitbull. Here he is here -

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The thing is that his mother was a nice calm dog and he's a nice dog, he can be a pain in the ass sometimes, but he's a good dog, so in that, some of my faith in pitbulls is restored.

Looking through these posts, I actually discovered another bad black instance in the news, Jessie Jackson, one of the big leaders of the blacks is fucking other women and stealing money, that's another bad picture to look at.

As far as your comments on the white child molesters, you have a damn good point there. You never hear of any black child molesters, it's always the white guys, I guess that I can chalk you up a point there, he he he. I think that I'm not gonna hang around white people as much anymore. Maybe I'll just board up all of my windows, get rid of my dog and stay inside all the time on here, that'll keep me safe from the violent blacks, white child molesters, and pitbulls, ha ha ha.

This topic has many sides and issues, it'd be a good debate. We should hold the first annual GFY Debate on issues that matter, he he he.


[This message has been edited by Slick (edited 04-15-2001).]

Things is, for all the bitchin and moaning about black rioting, the damage is probably even to if not way less than the damage propigated against blacks in this country today and in the past.

You wanna talk about an ethnic group that has for decades strategically bombed and burned and destroyed lives and property in the name of their fight for victory over oppression? Ever hear of the IRA? What color are they?

Many of you here may never ever know what it's like to be slammed down at every turn because your skin happens to be the color of the day or your beliefs fall into the norm or you have a penis. Because you don't know what it feels like, it may never occur to you to TRY AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT FEELS LIKE. Why should you? You're safe. Your butt is covered.

Violence is always wrong.

But the kind of fire that's burst in Cincinnati came from embers that were long burning and fanned by just the right kind of flame.

I agree that impatient youth plays into these tragedies. I agree that poverty, intolerance and ignorance factor in.

I also believe it's preposterous and uninformed to attribute riotus behavior to one race. That's just plain old bigotry.

::sigh::

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Hey Pimp, I see that you edited your info on your last post. I actually caught the first posting of it before I went to bed last night, but I was too tired to comment, he he. I'm sure that you had your reasons for editing it, pulling back the words against me and I appreciate it.

I'm sorry if this post offended you, I didn't start it to make everyone think that I'm a biggit when I'm not. It was meant to show my disgust for the people that started the riots, I didn't think that it was gonna open up a big thread on whites against blacks.