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Antonio Montana · 10-22-2021, 03:04 PM

First Month - $3
Second Month - $83.12
Current Month (so far) - $359

My traffic is 70K/day and I usually get between 2-8 sign-ups a day and verified sign-ups range from 0-5. Only been promoting them for three months so hope to see those numbers keep going up!

lockept93 · 11-04-2021, 01:14 PM

I hear CB implement games for models to play with users. Do stripchat plan to go with this trend?

williamsevenup · 11-09-2021, 01:54 PM

im having a good time with stripcash - Alex is my AM, responsive and helpful;

they made a mistake on one of my payout sending to wrong account TBH its taken longer than it should have to resolve - but that being said im just waiting on a final confirmation from my bank now in a couple days i will know 100%;

I get averaging around 7-10% of signups becoming spenders; makes circa $3 earned per signup but on revshare so this number could go up over time
(some of my traffic gets cookied for CB, but there its around $1.5 earned per signup so not as good, and same traffic going right to CB didn't yield anything much)

Hitting around 3-8 signups a day, dont care verified or not both can be spenders

Have caught what I would consider a couple baby whales;

also had 1 model signup and get me a $50 bonus, no idea where she came from but her profile is nice to see! haha

Only sending about 2500 clicks a month at the moment, SEO traffic; scaling it up slow and steady

lockept93 · 11-10-2021, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by williamsevenup

im having a good time with stripcash - Alex is my AM, responsive and helpful;

they made a mistake on one of my payout sending to wrong account TBH its taken longer than it should have to resolve - but that being said im just waiting on a final confirmation from my bank now in a couple days i will know 100%;

I get averaging around 7-10% of signups becoming spenders; makes circa $3 earned per signup but on revshare so this number could go up over time
(some of my traffic gets cookied for CB, but there its around $1.5 earned per signup so not as good, and same traffic going right to CB didn't yield anything much)

Hitting around 3-8 signups a day, dont care verified or not both can be spenders

Have caught what I would consider a couple baby whales;

also had 1 model signup and get me a $50 bonus, no idea where she came from but her profile is nice to see! haha

Only sending about 2500 clicks a month at the moment, SEO traffic; scaling it up slow and steady

Nice gj.
Im too working on scaling up arm. After around 1-2 years i have now a good base with steady income.
Got a lot of thrash traffic, but here and there there is a good spender start to have fun for a long time.

Hope stripchat will go on rising and implement cool new features in future.

j3rkules · 11-11-2021, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by williamsevenup

im having a good time with stripcash - Alex is my AM, responsive and helpful;

they made a mistake on one of my payout sending to wrong account TBH its taken longer than it should have to resolve - but that being said im just waiting on a final confirmation from my bank now in a couple days i will know 100%;

I get averaging around 7-10% of signups becoming spenders; makes circa $3 earned per signup but on revshare so this number could go up over time
(some of my traffic gets cookied for CB, but there its around $1.5 earned per signup so not as good, and same traffic going right to CB didn't yield anything much)

Hitting around 3-8 signups a day, dont care verified or not both can be spenders

Have caught what I would consider a couple baby whales;

also had 1 model signup and get me a $50 bonus, no idea where she came from but her profile is nice to see! haha

Only sending about 2500 clicks a month at the moment, SEO traffic; scaling it up slow and steady

It is really not bad for the amount of traffic you are sending, it has to be of a good quality obviously.

williamsevenup · 11-11-2021, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockept93

Nice gj.
Im too working on scaling up arm. After around 1-2 years i have now a good base with steady income.
Got a lot of thrash traffic, but here and there there is a good spender start to have fun for a long time.

Hope stripchat will go on rising and implement cool new features in future.

Nice great to read that - feel like im on the right track- defo in it for the long haul!

williamsevenup · 11-11-2021, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j3rkules

It is really not bad for the amount of traffic you are sending, it has to be of a good quality obviously.

I certainly believe in quality over quantity, now just need more quantity while maintaining quality :D

zijlstravideo · 11-11-2021, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockept93

I hear CB implement games for models to play with users. Do stripchat plan to go with this trend?

It's more that they now allow models to play certain games on stream (like Twitch).

Since this is a bit of a grey area in legal terms and CB likely wants to avoid getting sued by Nintendo, they "fixed" it by only allowing games listed on their list of approved games, which are submitted by the developers/studios.

zerovic · 11-11-2021, 11:29 AM

I'm about to start promoting them in the upcoming days. I'm currently pushing Chaturbate and my Cambuilder whitelabels.. We'll see how it goes.

lockept93 · 11-11-2021, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerovic

I'm about to start promoting them in the upcoming days. I'm currently pushing Chaturbate and my Cambuilder whitelabels.. We'll see how it goes.

Hope you share here some infos after a while!

williamsevenup · 11-11-2021, 01:31 PM

I just started sending traffic to a WL, its been live 2 days, trying to make a few change sto color and logo etc -

so far doesnt seem to be doing as good as just stripchat main - has anyone experienced improvements going to WL or tested between the 2?
and a/b testing my traffic right now

is the real reason people love WL is that people might remembe the name and come back even if they forget their account and make a new one?

lockept93 · 11-11-2021, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by williamsevenup

I just started sending traffic to a WL, its been live 2 days, trying to make a few change sto color and logo etc -

so far doesnt seem to be doing as good as just stripchat main - has anyone experienced improvements going to WL or tested between the 2?
and a/b testing my traffic right now

is the real reason people love WL is that people might remembe the name and come back even if they forget their account and make a new one?

The main reason to use a WL is that spenders make often new accounts and with the main domain you would loose them.

I dont saw any differences. Maybe your wl name, logo style is bad to have this effect.

williamsevenup · 11-11-2021, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockept93

The main reason to use a WL is that spenders make often new accounts and with the main domain you would loose them.

I dont saw any differences. Maybe your wl name, logo style is bad to have this effect.

Thanks for that insight! Im gonna gather some data and will test variations - so far the numbers are too small to make any conclusions anyway

dzhanova · 11-17-2021, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockept93

I hear CB implement games for models to play with users. Do stripchat plan to go with this trend?

we'll smth cool besides current "wheel of fortune", for sure !

TurboB · 11-18-2021, 01:04 AM

In the new statistic dashboard - how to move to the right to see your earnings?
I can see only these tabs:

dzhanova · 11-18-2021, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smeklinis

In the new statistic dashboard - how to move to the right to see your earnings?
I can see only these tabs:

it's scrolling to the right

dzhanova · 11-18-2021, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smeklinis

In the new statistic dashboard - how to move to the right to see your earnings?
I can see only these tabs:

if using mouse, hold "shift" and scroll

TurboB · 11-18-2021, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dzhanova

if using mouse, hold "shift" and scroll

Thanks.

Very hidden method seems, but it works

dzhanova · 11-19-2021, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smeklinis

Thanks.

Very hidden method seems, but it works

we'll improve it and make more user friendly

williamsevenup · 11-19-2021, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dzhanova

we'll improve it and make more user friendly

as an interrim perhaps you could add a note about holding shift somewhere on the screen?

dzhanova · 11-20-2021, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by williamsevenup

as an interrim perhaps you could add a note about holding shift somewhere on the screen?

this way or another, we'll make clear

pencocaste · 11-23-2021, 12:00 AM

Hello mates

I just wanna share with you my joy of reached the 1K in one month for the first time on StripChat

lockept93 · 11-23-2021, 03:23 AM

Black Friday Promo
Dear Partners,

Black Friday approaches, and we prepared an excellent way for our members and affiliates to celebrate it:

Black Friday promotion: 100 extra free tokens when buying 50 USD or higher packages.

Begins : 2021-11-25 12:00 UTC
Ends : 2021-11-30 12:00 UTC
This time the promotion will massively boost rebuys as well, not only first buys. So make sure to push this period as hard as you can and utilize the higher conversion rate.

For any additional details, feel free to hit up your traffic manager.

j3rkules · 11-23-2021, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pencocaste

Hello mates

I just wanna share with you my joy of reached the 1K in one month for the first time on StripChat

Good work. Keep it up.

grzepa · 11-23-2021, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pencocaste

Hello mates

I just wanna share with you my joy of reached the 1K in one month for the first time on StripChat

Nice stats ! Are you promoting CB ? I'd like to see comparison

Brian mike · 11-23-2021, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pencocaste

Hello mates

I just wanna share with you my joy of reached the 1K in one month for the first time on StripChat

lockept93 · 11-23-2021, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pencocaste

Hello mates

I just wanna share with you my joy of reached the 1K in one month for the first time on StripChat

Nice!
And the month is not over yet and Black Friday promo is coming also. I'm sure your new record will be higher!

pencocaste · 11-25-2021, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j3rkules

Good work. Keep it up.

Thank you

Quote:

Originally Posted by grzepa

Nice stats ! Are you promoting CB ? I'd like to see comparison

Thanks, yes I do, with chaturbate I make like 5K per month but I started promote it before

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian mike

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockept93

Nice!
And the month is not over yet and Black Friday promo is coming also. I'm sure your new record will be higher!

Yeah! I am at 1370, I think will I be reach the 1500

Advolk · 11-29-2021, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pencocaste

Thank you

Thanks, yes I do, with chaturbate I make like 5K per month but I started promote it before

Yeah! I am at 1370, I think will I be reach the 1500

Hello. I would like to ask you. How many clicks per day do you have with this income? And how long have you been waiting for the first income since the placement of stripcash advertising materials on your sites? I also posted promotional materials from stripcash on my websites a few days ago. Thank you in advance.

lockept93 · 11-29-2021, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advolk

Hello. I would like to ask you. How many clicks per day do you have with this income? And how long have you been waiting for the first income since the placement of stripcash advertising materials on your sites? I also posted promotional materials from stripcash on my websites a few days ago. Thank you in advance.

Click numbers wont help u to understand anything. Quality of traffic is the main factor. Someone with 1000 clicks daily can earn less than someone with 10 clicks daily.

lockept93 · 12-21-2021, 01:16 PM

The final promotion of 2021
Dear Partners,

As the end of 2021 approaches, it's time for the year's most effective promotion. Historically, December is always a record month, and we do not expect anything less from this year:

Christmas promotion: 50% discount on 20.99 packages. Great offer for first buys.

Begins : 2021-12-23 12:00 UTC
Ends : 2021-12-28 12:00 UTC
New Year promotion: Free additional smaller packages with each purchase. Great offer for rebuys.

Begins : 2021-12-29 12:00 UTC
Ends : 2022-01-03 12:00 UTC
Use this month smartly, as it can set your growth up for 2022.

Well...tbh Dezember was historically always the worst month in the year ^^

pencocaste · 12-21-2021, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advolk

Hello. I would like to ask you. How many clicks per day do you have with this income? And how long have you been waiting for the first income since the placement of stripcash advertising materials on your sites? I also posted promotional materials from stripcash on my websites a few days ago. Thank you in advance.

I use Twitter to promote stripcash, I have +1year promoting it and I catched a whale, this month I have more than s$2000

lockept93 · 12-24-2021, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pencocaste

I use Twitter to promote stripcash, I have +1year promoting it and I catched a whale, this month I have more than s$2000

I also have my main base from Twitter - but hell Twitter traffic is shitty. You need a lot of signups and luck to make it worth.

money biz · 12-26-2021, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Wilson

First Month - $3
Second Month - $83.12
Current Month (so far) - $359

My traffic is 70K/day and I usually get between 2-8 sign-ups a day and verified sign-ups range from 0-5. Only been promoting them for three months so hope to see those numbers keep going up!

Hows it going these days?

lockept93 · 12-26-2021, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by money biz

Hows it going these days?

This promo works much better than black friday was. Also overall the 2nd half of Dez is much better than the 1st.

TurboB · 12-29-2021, 01:56 PM

In a week 5 different members were refunded ~$600.

Did they masturbate for free?

lockept93 · 12-29-2021, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboB

In a week 5 different members were refunded ~$600.

Did they masturbate for free?

Sounds more like fraud and from the same person just creating multiple member accounts.

Don't know, but this happened to me at least.

TurboB · 12-31-2021, 12:42 AM

So now I have everyday refunds of different users - $1200.
WTF is happening?

e-god · 12-31-2021, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboB

So now I have everyday refunds of different users - $1200.
WTF is happening?

At the end of the year dudes realized how much they spent on cam girls and want it back.

pencocaste · 01-07-2022, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockept93

I also have my main base from Twitter - but hell Twitter traffic is shitty. You need a lot of signups and luck to make it worth.

Hi Bro, I know that

, I have 15 accounts sending traffic every single day. I have to tell you that I was inspired by you

( ultras

) to start promoting stripchat and I have to thank you a lot, the past month was amazing for me: +3K

lockept93 · 01-07-2022, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pencocaste

Hi Bro, I know that

, I have 15 accounts sending traffic every single day. I have to tell you that I was inspired by you

( ultras

) to start promoting stripchat and I have to thank you a lot, the past month was amazing for me: +3K

I'm very happy to hear that. Congratulations!

drexl · 01-28-2022, 02:23 AM

It looks like on mobile visitors are offered the option to install an app, even on whitelabels. That's pretty cool!

redbusiness · 01-31-2022, 03:15 AM

One question guys: do you send your traffic to the original site from stripchat or to your whitelabels?
Is it possible to add the whitelabel to a subdomain? Would a whitelabe on a subdomain maybe increase the duration time on my domain entirely and bringt some seo benefits?

Greets

drexl · 01-31-2022, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbusiness

One question guys: do you send your traffic to the original site from stripchat or to your whitelabels?
Is it possible to add the whitelabel to a subdomain? Would a whitelabe on a subdomain maybe increase the duration time on my domain entirely and bringt some seo benefits?

Greets

It is possible to bind a whitelabel to a subdomain, I've seen it in a demo site. I'm not sure the auto config will allow you this though so you might have to ping your account manager for this custom setup.

You won't get SEO benefits. Your whitelabel has a canonical tag referring to stripchat so any backlink and SEO juice goes to stripchat. Most whitelabel solutions work like this as it wouldn't make sense for Google to index identical sites. If you want SEO friendly then you can use the stripcash API to integrate with your site.

lockept93 · 03-04-2022, 07:34 PM

These promos really should be announced imo.

How it's going for everyone?

yajolik · 03-07-2022, 11:31 AM

Anyone know how to contact stripchat? They owe me a few hundred $ but after a dozen support tickets and 5 days they wont even respond to me. Few hundred not that much but I will earned it so it pisses me off. Dont become the next victim they will steal your funds then ghost you. FUCK STRIP CHAT AND ANY OTHER AFFILIATE THIEVES

yajolik · 03-07-2022, 11:34 AM

Does anyone have contact info for stripchat? Been tyring to contact for almosta week now. Ever since they got hacked they stoped live chat support. I have made over 12 tickets and waited 6 days but no one from stripchat is responding. Are they currently hacked AGAIN or are they just trying to steal as much as they can before they fully disappear? FUCK STRIP CHAT AND ANY OTHER NUMBER SHAVERS!

NickBaer · 03-07-2022, 11:41 AM

Check your inbox for a welcome message from Dzhanova, your affiliate manager from StripCash.

Do they owe you as a Broadcaster, or Affiliate?
StripChat and StripCash are two separate offices.

Do you have a valid payment method on file with them?? From my experience, that's about the only way payments ever got fouled up.

Also, both have healthy minimum thresholds, but I as a broadcaster got paid just the other day and made the threshold. Got paid a day earlier than I thought I was going to get paid!

Quote:

Originally Posted by yajolik

Does anyone have contact info for stripchat? Been tyring to contact for almosta week now. Ever since they got hacked they stoped live chat support. I have made over 12 tickets and waited 6 days but no one from stripchat is responding. Are they currently hacked AGAIN or are they just trying to steal as much as they can before they fully disappear? FUCK STRIP CHAT AND ANY OTHER NUMBER SHAVERS!

lockept93 · 03-07-2022, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yajolik

Anyone know how to contact stripchat? They owe me a few hundred $ but after a dozen support tickets and 5 days they wont even respond to me. Few hundred not that much but I will earned it so it pisses me off. Dont become the next victim they will steal your funds then ghost you. FUCK STRIP CHAT AND ANY OTHER AFFILIATE THIEVES

In fact you are the only one with a problem like this, I assume you do something wrong. And the way you write I assume there are reasons...

Since 2 years I have all payouts on point and no problems at all.

dzhanova · 03-08-2022, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yajolik

Does anyone have contact info for stripchat? Been tyring to contact for almosta week now. Ever since they got hacked they stoped live chat support. I have made over 12 tickets and waited 6 days but no one from stripchat is responding. Are they currently hacked AGAIN or are they just trying to steal as much as they can before they fully disappear? FUCK STRIP CHAT AND ANY OTHER NUMBER SHAVERS!

hi! pls leave your contact details, we'll sort it out

11-04-2021, 01:14 PM	#302
lockept93 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 771	I hear CB implement games for models to play with users. Do stripchat plan to go with this trend? __________________ Best adult cam affiliate program! No KYC Bitcoin <-> Paypal and more

11-09-2021, 01:54 PM	#303
williamsevenup Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 143	im having a good time with stripcash - Alex is my AM, responsive and helpful; they made a mistake on one of my payout sending to wrong account TBH its taken longer than it should have to resolve - but that being said im just waiting on a final confirmation from my bank now in a couple days i will know 100%; I get averaging around 7-10% of signups becoming spenders; makes circa $3 earned per signup but on revshare so this number could go up over time (some of my traffic gets cookied for CB, but there its around $1.5 earned per signup so not as good, and same traffic going right to CB didn't yield anything much) Hitting around 3-8 signups a day, dont care verified or not both can be spenders Have caught what I would consider a couple baby whales; also had 1 model signup and get me a $50 bonus, no idea where she came from but her profile is nice to see! haha Only sending about 2500 clicks a month at the moment, SEO traffic; scaling it up slow and steady __________________ AMA SEO or Wordpress My best performing cams network \| Club Brandy

11-11-2021, 01:31 PM	#311
williamsevenup Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 143	I just started sending traffic to a WL, its been live 2 days, trying to make a few change sto color and logo etc - so far doesnt seem to be doing as good as just stripchat main - has anyone experienced improvements going to WL or tested between the 2? and a/b testing my traffic right now is the real reason people love WL is that people might remembe the name and come back even if they forget their account and make a new one? __________________ AMA SEO or Wordpress My best performing cams network \| Club Brandy

11-23-2021, 03:23 AM	#323
lockept93 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 771	Black Friday Promo Dear Partners, Black Friday approaches, and we prepared an excellent way for our members and affiliates to celebrate it: Black Friday promotion: 100 extra free tokens when buying 50 USD or higher packages. Begins : 2021-11-25 12:00 UTC Ends : 2021-11-30 12:00 UTC This time the promotion will massively boost rebuys as well, not only first buys. So make sure to push this period as hard as you can and utilize the higher conversion rate. For any additional details, feel free to hit up your traffic manager. __________________ Best adult cam affiliate program! No KYC Bitcoin <-> Paypal and more

12-21-2021, 01:16 PM	#331
lockept93 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 771	The final promotion of 2021 Dear Partners, As the end of 2021 approaches, it's time for the year's most effective promotion. Historically, December is always a record month, and we do not expect anything less from this year: Christmas promotion: 50% discount on 20.99 packages. Great offer for first buys. Begins : 2021-12-23 12:00 UTC Ends : 2021-12-28 12:00 UTC New Year promotion: Free additional smaller packages with each purchase. Great offer for rebuys. Begins : 2021-12-29 12:00 UTC Ends : 2022-01-03 12:00 UTC Use this month smartly, as it can set your growth up for 2022. Well...tbh Dezember was historically always the worst month in the year ^^ __________________ Best adult cam affiliate program! No KYC Bitcoin <-> Paypal and more

10-22-2021, 03:04 PM	#301
Antonio Montana Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Svenborgia Posts: 27	First Month - $3 Second Month - $83.12 Current Month (so far) - $359 My traffic is 70K/day and I usually get between 2-8 sign-ups a day and verified sign-ups range from 0-5. Only been promoting them for three months so hope to see those numbers keep going up!

11-11-2021, 11:29 AM	#309
zerovic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,015	I'm about to start promoting them in the upcoming days. I'm currently pushing Chaturbate and my Cambuilder whitelabels.. We'll see how it goes.

11-18-2021, 01:04 AM	#315
TurboB Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 961	In the new statistic dashboard - how to move to the right to see your earnings? I can see only these tabs:

11-23-2021, 12:00 AM	#322
pencocaste Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 69	Hello mates I just wanna share with you my joy of reached the 1K in one month for the first time on StripChat

12-29-2021, 01:56 PM	#336
TurboB Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 961	In a week 5 different members were refunded ~$600. Did they masturbate for free?

12-31-2021, 12:42 AM	#338
TurboB Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 961	So now I have everyday refunds of different users - $1200. WTF is happening?

01-28-2022, 02:23 AM	#342
drexl Whale Hunter Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 930	It looks like on mobile visitors are offered the option to install an app, even on whitelabels. That's pretty cool!

01-31-2022, 03:15 AM	#343
redbusiness Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 290	One question guys: do you send your traffic to the original site from stripchat or to your whitelabels? Is it possible to add the whitelabel to a subdomain? Would a whitelabe on a subdomain maybe increase the duration time on my domain entirely and bringt some seo benefits? Greets

03-04-2022, 07:34 PM	#345
lockept93 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 771	These promos really should be announced imo. How it's going for everyone? __________________ Best adult cam affiliate program! No KYC Bitcoin <-> Paypal and more

03-07-2022, 11:31 AM	#346
yajolik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 10	Stripchat is done Anyone know how to contact stripchat? They owe me a few hundred $ but after a dozen support tickets and 5 days they wont even respond to me. Few hundred not that much but I will earned it so it pisses me off. Dont become the next victim they will steal your funds then ghost you. FUCK STRIP CHAT AND ANY OTHER AFFILIATE THIEVES

03-07-2022, 11:34 AM	#347
yajolik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 10	Does anyone have contact info for stripchat? Been tyring to contact for almosta week now. Ever since they got hacked they stoped live chat support. I have made over 12 tickets and waited 6 days but no one from stripchat is responding. Are they currently hacked AGAIN or are they just trying to steal as much as they can before they fully disappear? FUCK STRIP CHAT AND ANY OTHER NUMBER SHAVERS!