It's an obvious carbon-copy that has been slightly changed. It's still copying though, which is also known as theft.


Design theft is bad.

This is hilarious. I guess our new gallery designer is really motivated hahahaha.

Sorry Pat, I didnt know about this one.

I dont have the pass to the server on this box. I will make sure that thing gets removed first thing in the morning.

But you know our motto , dont innovate imitate hahahaha.

Pat
Mark's Bookmarks

seems that we can laugh already ;-)

Pat, you were the one I was looking for! I guess you are afraid to give me your phonenumber 'cause I 'might return the favor' huh? haha... kidding of course.

Too bad you couldn't make it on Thuesday of the Amsterdam show BTW. The Invite still goes though...

This starts to get a private post on a public board... weird, but I guess it cleared up the problem that wasn't there yet... still puzzled though Pat... what is this?

Whats that old saying.. its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission? Yeah, thats it.

Eh? It is one thing to use elements of someone elses site on your own. It is another thing to copy nearly 100% of such a successful site as the Hun. Like it has been said, it seems like its not meant to be a ripoff since there is no link from Mark's main page but it is still very strange.

Fair enough TGP galleries and the like can only vary so much but if this had been meant as a REAL website, to rip off someone with as much history and legal backing as the Hun would just be plain stupid.

There is such a thing as being too cynical. ( No offense Fletch!)

Edit: Sorry, wasn't quick enough to get this in before the revelation. Glad to see its a mixup.

Hey Pat... I start to wonder... the Spammer I apparently pissed off the other day... it wasn't you, was it? ;-)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Yeh, really get over it Patrick. You made enough $$$ from this industry so don't start crying over what is obviously a joke. You started by HOTLISTING INTO EVERYONE's members sections in the early days. The newbs don't know how you started, but the old timers haven't forgotten.

I think we just got confirmation from the MB's that it wasn't a joke... Please... you guys always come in here pretending there's some big mistery not every knows about but you do... well, I have news for you: it's not a big mistery and it's been 'explained' and appologized for too many times already on this board for me to repeat it. Besides, I NEVER hotlinked... get your facts straight and stop these jealous attempts please, they're getting kind of childish now...

The amount of money I made with this doesn't have a fucking thing to do with this. READ a discussion before you start an attempt to make yourself look good at the expense of someone else. An attempt that miserably failed BTW...

Wow that looks good....heheh

Hey it's all hosted galleries....If you need more let me know.

LOL
Um, the real page is mark.html, not galleries.html :1orglaugh

mildly amusing. Hun stop crying and start img src'ing him immediately.

:glugglug

Well after reading this threat I officially warn you Patrick.

I have 11 Month to think of something clever.

April 1st 2004 will be "prank the hun" day :)

On the spamming , I would have done that differntly .
I would have mailed out your home phone number hahaha

Have a good Weekend

Pat

KRL : Acutally The Hun started doing that initially, I just ripped off the idea from him :)

No shit. Cmon, you are a fucking Viking, stop being a bitch and go berserker on him.

and after you're done with him, fry his guts over a bonfire.

<a href=http://www.amonamarth.com/sounds/Bastards%20of%20a%20lying%20breed.mp3>Bastards Of A Lying Breed</a>

check your email for the latest metal tune.

Ahh, well if that isn't a parody what is?

Not trying to bust your balls, but you go around busting a lot of other peoples balls and act like a saint.

And don't say you didn't link into members areas for your links when you first started because you had links into my damn sites and other friend's sites from the early days before everyone started to protect their back end members sections effectively. God do I have to dig up the YNOT archives or what? You weren't the popular guy with webmasters that you are now Sir Hun. And again, not looking to bust balls just calling a spade a spade.

I agree IMG SRC is the only way! thats how you deal with anyone else that fucks with you

Folks keep saying that it's not linked from anywhere so what's the big deal - but for TheHun to have gotten a note from a *surfer* from this, there has to be a link leading to it somewhere.

Hope you guys get it straightened out - although it does give you an idea of what TheHun would look like if it were dressed up for St Patrick's Day :glugglug
(Boy that would be fitting!)

You know whats great about your misdirected, clueless fucking opinion? The fact that there's easily a million people that don't agree with you and that prove everyday they don't give a flying shit about the page design. Dumb fuck.

I was thinkin' the same.. what better way to market/ad a new site than to have a big controversy over it being ripped. But perhaps not..

The Hun has spoken:
Thou shall not use that sponsor
Thou shall not use that host
Thou shall not use that deodorant
If I had such an ugly page, I would feel honored that someone copied it...
It's incredible how many ass kissers come on this board when The Hun spoketh....

adolf?

I've had my homepage automatically set to that URL a number of times...

Me too man. I've gotten it from clicking links off this board too. SOme posted gallery cheaters and they used a redirect and that auto home page crap.

<img src=http://www.fanstop.net/smileys/viking.gif>

So was this ever cleared up?

I saw someone from book-mark.net did respond, but no one ever stated what the page was doing there in the first place.

as in only 1 surfer? hmm don't you think that's odd?
I wonder who he was and how this only one "mystery" surfer knew where to find this page? hmm

Ancient maxim:

"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."

The hun has made me a shitload of money. I will kiss his ass and continue to kiss his ass as long as he keeps on listing my galleries. :glugglug

DH

As long as your ass kissing is known.

Why do people always start talking about court when someone expresses displeasure at being copied? I'm personally sick as hell of people being a wee bit over-inspired by my stuff and not wanting to give credit where it is due, but I'm not about to sue everyone (okay, some people, but not everyone) who ever ripped off some part of something I put out. I'd be peeved about this thing if I were The Hun, but I wouldn't waste a lot of time that could be spent on something productive making a legal battle out of it. If I were a car industry person, I might have an opinion on Honda or Mercedes, based on discussions at tradeshows or whatever, even if there was no court case.

The guy is so lacking in talent and business acumin he does that. I think it will do more harm than good.

Hun, don't worry about feeder fish, they are too small to do any damage.

Oh my God, I can't believe someone is willing to volutarily make this much of an ass of himself on a public board... If you don't like my fucking rules, don't fucking submit. Or in plain English: if you don't like my rules, don't submit. How hard is that?

I don't tell people they shouldn't use certain sponsors, I don't tell people they shouldn't use a certain host, I ONLY tell people that if you DO you that certain host or sponser that I (read: me, the owner of MY site) am not going to link to it.

Really, some people definately make it a hobby to make 'emselves look very good by trying to bring someone down. KRL is an example of that, this guy is trying the same thing. Nice try guys... doesn't work though. Stop these posts please. It doesn't add a single thing to the discussion.

Anyway, I know Pat from the early early days when we worked on the first ever picturepost and stuff like that. He lived in Luxembourg at the time, which was not too far a ride from where I live. Lost his info when he moved to the US though, didn't have too much contact with him after that (hell, he got hooked up with Mark's Bookmark, so obviously we couldn't be friends anymore ;-)

It's cleared up know though, problem gone. Thanks Pat!

... where is that little fag funkmaster, with his three dots before each sentence and two exclamation marks after !!

www.GoGuides.org copied www.google.com

boo hoo !!

man some of you guys really are dumb. a design is a design, it doesn't matter if it sucks. besides, thehun makes a lot of cash with it. probably more than you.. so fuck off.

also the guys that think they know how patrick was before.. fuck you. nobody is fukin perfect, I'm sure you did something bad too in adult biz, it's just that nobody knows it.

:321GFY

LOL this is what TheHun used to look like back in 1998
http://web.archive.org/web/199902181...ww.thehun.com/

Thats just minimal html. How can you call it a copy ? Every page in 1995 looked exactly like it.

Feel free to steal my super-converting enter link

<a href="http://www.1995.com/">ENTER</a>

If a design is stolen it is theft. No matter what design it is or how bad anyone might find it. The suprising part is that people think it's The Huns design that makes the site successful. The simple solution is that The Hun has been around forever has tons of Bookmark traffic. I think the simple design lets the site load fast and keeps the bandwidth down but it is possible to do a low bandwidth design without stealing.

Dude, I patented that a week ago. I'll see you in court.

But in all seriousness...today someone I did some galleries for was accused of "stealing" the design on those galleries...um, they were basic tables with no graphic headers or anything...just tables, for cryin' out loud...no-brainer, pump-out-fifty-an-hour with an h1 tag for the title...I would really love to face my accuser...anyway.

The page in question on this thread was clearly a copy. The Hun's layout may not be particularly groundbreaking or innovative, but it's easily recognizable.

It could be a joke, but...

I copied your design some time ago (when I started my first TGP and had 30 hits per day from google). I only copied the gallery layout (descriptions + links, no colours, no banners, just a lots of galleries + descriptions dump). This way I got very nice google ranking in less that 2 months run. After that changed to my current stupid useless layout, but still get some nice google and yahoo traffic.

I think he is doing the same, with the only difference that he copied the entire design instead a part of it.

His main page has lots of links. There is a limit where SE bots start "thinking" the page is just a spam dump, so I think he is just trying to boost his google traffic.

Even that, he could be more creative with the text. Coplete copoies are OK, but surfers go confused and some time after that they become angry because of site mismatch.

Most simple html generator programs created layouts like that way back..
TITLE ( usually big Times New Roman font )
HR tag
sub title or intro
HR tag
Another paragraph
List of links
Email

Man this takes me back.. remember Hot Dog ? Hot Dog Pro ? Those were hot.
http://www.sausage.com/

Remember HotMetal ?

It's .net, not .com