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  • Forest
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    • Aug 2001
    • 9135

    #1

    The age old debate. Which is King? Traffic or Content

    I have always said traffic is king. The current situation supports that.
  • CaptainHowdy
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Dec 2004
    • 94735

    #2
    You've just summoned Paul Markham . . .

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    • Biggie Smalls Web Writing
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      • Aug 2011
      • 3993

      #3
      Here we go again

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      • blackmonsters
        Making PHP work
        • Nov 2002
        • 20970

        #4
        Traffic.

        Because everybody stole the content.

        Kings don't get their asses stolen.

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        • ravo
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          • Jun 2001
          • 5461

          #5
          Traffic.

          But, you knew I would say that...
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          • Vendzilla
            Biker Gnome
            • Mar 2004
            • 23200

            #6
            Money above all else
            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
            think about that

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            • plsureking
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              • Aug 2003
              • 4904

              #7
              Originally posted by CaptainHowdy
              You've just summoned Paul Markham . . .
              more like this:




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              • Forest
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                • Aug 2001
                • 9135

                #8
                Originally posted by ravo
                Traffic.

                But, you knew I would say that...
                It was our conversations that had me thinking to the old days of Real Players on both sides of the debate.

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                • Forest
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2001
                  • 9135

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Vendzilla
                  Money above all else
                  So which makes most money?

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                  • Grapesoda
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 46238

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Forest
                    I have always said traffic is king. The current situation supports that.

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                    • fuzebox
                      making it rain
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 22352

                      #11
                      inb4 "traffic is king, content is queen"

                      I can make all the money with old content, saturated content, low quality content, or even a blank page.

                      A select few can create content so good it will generate its own traffic. For most people that isn't practical, especially on an internet marketing forum.

                      Yes, we know "you need content to have a site" and "you need visitors to make money from your content", this debate is not about that ridiculous argument of whether or not a product should exist.

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                      • EddyTheDog
                        Just Doing My Own Thing
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 25433

                        #12
                        Traffic - With enough traffic you can sell anything - You could have exclusive video of the Queen pegging Trump but if nobody see's it you wont make a cent...

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                        • Rochard
                          Jägermeister Test Pilot
                          • Dec 2001
                          • 75733

                          #13
                          Which is king? Traffic or content? Neither.

                          Email is king.

                          You can have the best content in the world, but without traffic no one would ever see it and no one would be able to buy it. With traffic, great, you send someone to a website once and hope they convert.

                          However, with email.... you can send them link after link after link, creating traffic on the way. You narrow it down and give them exactly what they want.

                          I had an hour long conferece call with a domintrix today.. She's got it all figured it out....

                          A customer signs up to her "main list" and automatically they get an email with six photos which are links. This starts to narrow down exactly what the customer is into. Customer clicks on the first link, a man licking her boot, and boom - he gets added to a sub list called "boot licking". Every week this potential customer will get an email from the main list, and then a few days later an email from the sub list with speclized content the customer is interested in. They will keep getting email every week until they do become a customer, and when they do... They get moved to a new list called "paid customers". This weekly email sends them to other related sites.... They stay on this list for a year and then a trigger moves them back to the main list, and the process starts all over again with new content.

                          Once everything is set up, all she does is create a new email once a week. Pepole stay on the list until they become a customer, and then she tries to sell them on something else - all automatically.
                          Herschel Savage
                          Brooklyn, NY

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                          • lock
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                            • Jul 2003
                            • 5065

                            #14
                            Content brings traffic.
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                            • Klen
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 32235

                              #15
                              As i said before, depending on which role you have.

                              If you are webmaster, you can redirect traffic to ad network and make clean cash without worrying about content.

                              If you are media buyer, then content is highly important - when i get new offers, first thing what i do i checking quality of their landing pages, so if no good, i dont test it as i know it wont work.

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                              • BlueBookJosh
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Mar 2020
                                • 250

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Klen
                                As i said before, depending on which role you have.

                                If you are webmaster, you can redirect traffic to ad network and make clean cash without worrying about content.

                                If you are media buyer, then content is highly important - when i get new offers, first thing what i do i checking quality of their landing pages, so if no good, i dont test it as i know it wont work.
                                True that, because: traffic -> good content -> additional traffic

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                                • Mr Pheer
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 22083

                                  #17
                                  Only one person in here has answered correctly.

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                                  • freecartoonporn
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                                    • Jan 2012
                                    • 7683

                                    #18
                                    off-course traffic is king,
                                    but traffic is not stupid, it looks for fresh/quality content.
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                                    • Paul Markham
                                      Too old to care
                                      • Jun 2001
                                      • 52942

                                      #19
                                      It depends on what you're business is.

                                      Ask why is pornhub getting so much traffic and the answer is they have the best content the surfer wants and keeps coming back for more.

                                      Ask an affiliate who has a poor site and needs to keep getting fresh visitors and he will say traffic.

                                      All the arguments in the world boil down to who can keep returning traffic, convert it and keep it.

                                      For instance, do visitors keep coming to GFY because of the content or because of finding for new every time?



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                                      • celandina
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jun 2006
                                        • 11723

                                        #20
                                        ^^^^^^^^

                                        Originally posted by CaptainHowdy
                                        You've just summoned Paul Markham . . .

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                                        • Rochard
                                          Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                          • Dec 2001
                                          • 75733

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                                          Only one person in here has answered correctly.
                                          Someone gets it.

                                          I fully believe in what I do. A single email address is a constant stream of traffic. You can hammer that email address every day until they unsubscribe.... Constant traffic.
                                          Herschel Savage
                                          Brooklyn, NY

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                                          • Mr Pheer
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Dec 2002
                                            • 22083

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Rochard
                                            Someone gets it.

                                            I fully believe in what I do. A single email address is a constant stream of traffic. You can hammer that email address every day until they unsubscribe.... Constant traffic.
                                            You're not the one I was referring to.

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                                            • Klen
                                              • Aug 2006
                                              • 32235

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                                              You're not the one I was referring to.
                                              So who is the lucky "winner"

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                                              • EddyTheDog
                                                Just Doing My Own Thing
                                                • Jan 2011
                                                • 25433

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Klen
                                                So who is the lucky "winner"
                                                Me, for putting the image of the Queen pegging Trump in your minds...

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                                                • Paul Markham
                                                  Too old to care
                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                  • 52942

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Rochard
                                                  Someone gets it.

                                                  I fully believe in what I do. A single email address is a constant stream of traffic. You can hammer that email address every day until they unsubscribe.... Constant traffic.
                                                  And what are you selling, blank pages?

                                                  For you personally do you go for any old site to promote or the ones with the very best content on offer? Do conversion ratios mean nothing or a lot to you?

                                                  This debate comes down to some very key factors.

                                                  Do you select the sites you promote?

                                                  Do you watch closely for trends and favourites in what people buy?

                                                  Do you keep a constant check on how sites you promote perform?

                                                  Do you want fresh content or a site to get more traffic to help you promote?

                                                  Do you want to get paid?

                                                  Can you drive traffic to any site you choose?

                                                  Now answer what makes one site better than others and easier for you to promote.

                                                  What's the answer?



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                                                  • Grapesoda
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                    • 46238

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Klen
                                                    So who is the lucky "winner"

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                                                    • AnimeFevers
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                                                      • Apr 2009
                                                      • 3566

                                                      #27
                                                      No content = no traffic...
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                                                      • Forest
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                        • 9135

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Rochard
                                                        Which is king? Traffic or content? Neither.

                                                        Email is king.

                                                        You can have the best content in the world, but without traffic no one would ever see it and no one would be able to buy it. With traffic, great, you send someone to a website once and hope they convert.

                                                        However, with email.... you can send them link after link after link, creating traffic on the way. You narrow it down and give them exactly what they want.

                                                        I had an hour long conferece call with a domintrix today.. She's got it all figured it out....

                                                        A customer signs up to her "main list" and automatically they get an email with six photos which are links. This starts to narrow down exactly what the customer is into. Customer clicks on the first link, a man licking her boot, and boom - he gets added to a sub list called "boot licking". Every week this potential customer will get an email from the main list, and then a few days later an email from the sub list with speclized content the customer is interested in. They will keep getting email every week until they do become a customer, and when they do... They get moved to a new list called "paid customers". This weekly email sends them to other related sites.... They stay on this list for a year and then a trigger moves them back to the main list, and the process starts all over again with new content.

                                                        Once everything is set up, all she does is create a new email once a week. Pepole stay on the list until they become a customer, and then she tries to sell them on something else - all automatically.
                                                        Email is traffic

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                                                        • Forest
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                          • 9135

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by AnimeFevers
                                                          No content = no traffic...
                                                          There will always be content

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                                                          • Paul Markham
                                                            Too old to care
                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                            • 52942

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Forest
                                                            There will always be content
                                                            There will always be traffic. Until men stop jerking off to porn they are stuck with sourcing it. The question is what one matters the most to you?

                                                            So do you send your traffic to any site because everything converts, pay, retain the best or do you send it to the sites that convert, pay, retain the best?

                                                            Affiliates have traffic that's a given as it's their job. When they stop carefully selecting where to send it their traffic becomes the best.

                                                            If they use the argument that they can get any old content to promote a site they're exaggerating, lying or foolish. Because the best content attracts the best affiliates, traffic and send it to the sites with the best tours/content because it converts and pays the best.



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                                                            • The Porn Nerd
                                                              Living The Dream
                                                              • Jun 2009
                                                              • 19787

                                                              #31
                                                              Traffic is peanut butter.
                                                              Content is jelly.

                                                              You may prefer one over the other but you need both to make a sandwich.

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                                                              • Paul Markham
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                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                • 52942

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                Traffic is peanut butter.
                                                                Content is jelly.

                                                                You may prefer one over the other but you need both to make a sandwich.

                                                                </thread>

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                                                                • RyuLion
                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                  • 32369

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                  Traffic is peanut butter.
                                                                  Content is jelly.

                                                                  You may prefer one over the other but you need both to make a sandwich.

                                                                  </thread>

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                                                                  Yes Sir, it is always up to the end user as always!!

                                                                  It is not up to us but to what "THEY" want" AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME" it changes, just look at your Stats!

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                                                                  • Mr Pheer
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                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                    • 22083

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Klen
                                                                    So who is the lucky "winner"
                                                                    Fuzebox answered correctly.

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                                                                    • Paul Markham
                                                                      Too old to care
                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                      • 52942

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by RyuLion
                                                                      Yes Sir, it is always up to the end user as always!!

                                                                      It is not up to us but to what "THEY" want" AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME" it changes, just look at your Stats!
                                                                      If you're promoting, marketing, creating etc and relying on stats to tell you about what sells. You really do need as much traffic as possible. Because you don't understand your product or buyers.



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                                                                      • The Porn Nerd
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                                                                        • Jun 2009
                                                                        • 19787

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                                                                        Fuzebox answered correctly.
                                                                        He is correct in that you do not 'need' content to generate traffic (tho I say words and links constitute "content" of a sort). You can earn coin scraping the bottom of the barrel, or you can make dough by filling the barrel, or you can make money building barrels.

                                                                        The possibilities for online revenue are virtually endless. So the only real "King" here is one's own cleverness, motivation and skills.
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                                                                        • Paul Markham
                                                                          Too old to care
                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                          • 52942

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                          inb4 "traffic is king, content is queen"

                                                                          I can make all the money with old content, saturated content, low quality content, or even a blank page.

                                                                          A select few can create content so good it will generate its own traffic. For most people that isn't practical, especially on an internet marketing forum.

                                                                          Yes, we know "you need content to have a site" and "you need visitors to make money from your content", this debate is not about that ridiculous argument of whether or not a product should exist.
                                                                          For the individual, you're spot on. However, in 2020 the possibility of making much money in adult with bad, poor content or traffic is low.

                                                                          Today we need great content and traffic to cover the costs of running a business and paying for our time.



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                                                                          • Mr Pheer
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                            • 22083

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                            So the only real "King" here is one's own cleverness, motivation and skills.

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                                                                            • fuzebox
                                                                              making it rain
                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                              • 22352

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Mr Pheer

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                                                                              • Major (Tom)
                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                • Nov 2003
                                                                                • 32492

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Forest
                                                                                I have always said traffic is king. The current situation supports that.

                                                                                I’m going to say content

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                                                                                • george MH
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                                                                                  • Dec 2019
                                                                                  • 599

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  TRAFFIC


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                                                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                                                    Too old to care
                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                    • 52942

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                    Which is king? Traffic or content? Neither.

                                                                                    Email is king.

                                                                                    You can have the best content in the world, but without traffic no one would ever see it and no one would be able to buy it. With traffic, great, you send someone to a website once and hope they convert.

                                                                                    However, with email.... you can send them link after link after link, creating traffic on the way. You narrow it down and give them exactly what they want.

                                                                                    I had an hour long conferece call with a domintrix today.. She's got it all figured it out....

                                                                                    A customer signs up to her "main list" and automatically they get an email with six photos which are links. This starts to narrow down exactly what the customer is into. Customer clicks on the first link, a man licking her boot, and boom - he gets added to a sub list called "boot licking". Every week this potential customer will get an email from the main list, and then a few days later an email from the sub list with speclized content the customer is interested in. They will keep getting email every week until they do become a customer, and when they do... They get moved to a new list called "paid customers". This weekly email sends them to other related sites.... They stay on this list for a year and then a trigger moves them back to the main list, and the process starts all over again with new content.

                                                                                    Once everything is set up, all she does is create a new email once a week. Pepole stay on the list until they become a customer, and then she tries to sell them on something else - all automatically.
                                                                                    So she sent them content to get the sale even text in an email is content and yet you still insist traffic is king!!!!



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                                                                                    • Paul Markham
                                                                                      Too old to care
                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                      • 52942

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                                      inb4 "traffic is king, content is queen"

                                                                                      I can make all the money with old content, saturated content, low quality content, or even a blank page.

                                                                                      A select few can create content so good it will generate its own traffic. For most people that isn't practical, especially on an internet marketing forum.

                                                                                      Yes, we know "you need content to have a site" and "you need visitors to make money from your content", this debate is not about that ridiculous argument of whether or not a product should exist.
                                                                                      So can you show me the sites with the old, saturated content, low-quality content, or even a blank page that outperform your sites with new, exclusive content, high-quality content and pages filled with keywords that don't make money?

                                                                                      The reasons you state for traffic being king only applies to people who can't afford or don't know better.



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                                                                                      • Paul Markham
                                                                                        Too old to care
                                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                                        • 52942

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Forest
                                                                                        So which makes most money?
                                                                                        Good or better content, followed by traffic via marketing skills.

                                                                                        The internet is flooded with content of all sorts, adult even more so. Traffic always exists, content always exists so the question is which one gets first place and which one gets a close second?

                                                                                        Who here has bad traffic that would buy or sign up for free if the content is good enough?

                                                                                        Who here has good traffic that would buy or sign up for free if the content is good enough?

                                                                                        Who here has bad traffic that would buy or sign up for free if the content is rubbish?

                                                                                        The top sites are looking for bookmakers or return visits.

                                                                                        Look around at the top paysites in all categories, are they top because they are where everyone else is going or because they meet the needs of billions?



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