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  • Grapesoda
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jul 2003
    • 46238

    #1

    camera vrs phone

    https://www.androidauthority.com/sam...-dslr-1092953/

    I keep telling you guys just use a phone to produce content
  • cezar78
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2018
    • 333

    #2
    Samsung takes incredible photos
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    • ilnjscb
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      • Jun 2009
      • 8973

      #3
      iphone 11 max nice but DSLR still better

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      • celandina
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jun 2006
        • 11723

        #4
        Originally posted by Grapesoda
        https://www.androidauthority.com/sam...-dslr-1092953/

        I keep telling you guys just use a phone to produce content
        Yes, the pictures are nice BUT ALL are either exteriors or daytime in in rooms with big windows. I would like to see a comparison at night or lit interior. Yes, you can somewhat zoom but since there are no lenses to speak of, you are just shooting everything wide or with distorted close ups...

        Also the extra "gack" you need can run into thousands... BUT hey what do I know, I still shoot on an old RED..

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        • Grapesoda
          So Fucking Banned
          • Jul 2003
          • 46238

          #5
          Originally posted by ilnjscb
          iphone 11 max nice but DSLR still better
          that's because you use an iphone. iphone is no comparison to a samsung camera

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          • Grapesoda
            So Fucking Banned
            • Jul 2003
            • 46238

            #6
            Originally posted by celandina
            Yes, the pictures are nice BUT ALL are either exteriors or daytime in in rooms with big windows. I would like to see a comparison at night or lit interior. Yes, you can somewhat zoom but since there are no lenses to speak of, you are just shooting everything wide or with distorted close ups...

            Also the extra "gack" you need can run into thousands... BUT hey what do I know, I still shoot on an old RED..




            shot in the almost dark, a bit OFF because I didn't use a stand

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            • NatalieK
              Natalie K
              • Apr 2010
              • 20118

              #7
              Originally posted by ilnjscb
              iphone 11 max nice but DSLR still better

              nothing on the new Samsung s20 ultra, with 100x zoom and over 100 mb 8k images
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              • candyflip
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                • Jul 2002
                • 43069

                #8
                Not a fan of super small sensor video, myself.

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                • Grapesoda
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 46238

                  #9
                  Originally posted by candyflip
                  Not a fan of super small sensor video, myself.
                  me either however once you realize the customer is usually viewing on a phone... it's not a big deal

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                  • celandina
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 11723

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Grapesoda




                    shot in the almost dark, a bit OFF because I didn't use a stand
                    OK good, now take the same night picture with a standard "lens" and then zoom in 50 % and 80 % and you may have me convinced at least for the exteriors

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                    • Lexi BongaCash
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                      • Jan 2019
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                      #11
                      At least phone is always with you. For example, if you something amazing on the street, you may not have your camera with you. But phone...


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                      • ilnjscb
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 8973

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Grapesoda
                        that's because you use an iphone. iphone is no comparison to a samsung camera
                        Originally posted by NatalieK
                        nothing on the new Samsung s20 ultra, with 100x zoom and over 100 mb 8k images
                        Really? I stuck with iPhone out of habit, but the new Samsung is better than DSLR? I read some analysis that said that iPhone was comparable, but I'm sure there are pros on here that know for sure.

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                        • Grapesoda
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 46238

                          #13
                          Originally posted by celandina
                          OK good, now take the same night picture with a standard "lens" and then zoom in 50 % and 80 % and you may have me convinced at least for the exteriors
                          these are full wide uncropped shots, no zoom

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                          • Grapesoda
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 46238

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ilnjscb
                            Really? I stuck with iPhone out of habit, but the new Samsung is better than DSLR? I read some analysis that said that iPhone was comparable, but I'm sure there are pros on here that know for sure.
                            for years I've shot against iphones with my samsung phone because many many models have iphones. iphones produce shit images comparatively. my daughter has a new iphone, she is SO IMPRESSED with the camera because now the images are similar to a samsung, not the newest samsung, just a samsung.

                            you'll never get DSLR performance out of 'cell phone' lenses however most people can't get DSLR performance out a DSLR and most people can't see the difference between a DSLR and a phone. and if the images are done correctly in post, shooting the proper subject I can't either. most certainly for facebook/twitter pics.

                            so for 95% of people a phone shoots as good as a DSLR.

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                            • celandina
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 11723

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Grapesoda
                              these are full wide uncropped shots, no zoom
                              No zoom ( or different lenses) produces a "rank amateur" content. Good for skateboarding gags and exterior family shots. Not for real productions.

                              We usually use 30 to 150 mm zoom lens, plus a fix set of primes

                              But thanks for the info.

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                              • Grapesoda
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 46238

                                #16
                                Originally posted by celandina
                                No zoom ( or different lenses) produces a "rank amateur" content. Good for skateboarding gags and exterior family shots. Not for real productions.

                                We usually use 30 to 150 mm zoom lens, plus a fix set of primes

                                But thanks for the info.
                                I had a 2 17-35 2.8, 3 24-70 2.8, 70-200 2.8, 105 2.8, 35 1.4, 58 2.8, 60 macro 2.8 and a 200 2.0. I was a professional photographer for 30 years. I lit film and TV for almost 20 years, local 728, international 600 and DGA for a few years. all studio except maybe 3-5 location shots. game shows, talk shows, sitcoms and infomercials. I worked in maybe 6-7 films in that time. (running man, father of the bride, jack frost, alien 3 or 4, the one with Winona Ryder and I lit live news for about 4-5 years at a number 2 market... i.e news in LA. didn't really care for TV or film to be honest about it... don't really care for the people

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                                • celandina
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jun 2006
                                  • 11723

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                  I had a 2 17-35 2.8, 3 24-70 2.8, 70-200 2.8, 105 2.8, 35 1.4, 58 2.8, 60 macro 2.8 and a 200 2.0. I was a professional photographer for 30 years. I lit film and TV for almost 20 years, local 728, international 600 and DGA for a few years. all studio except maybe 3-5 location shots. game shows, talk shows, sitcoms and infomercials. I worked in maybe 6-7 films in that time. (running man, father of the bride, jack frost, alien 3 or 4, the one with Winona Ryder and I lit live news for about 4-5 years at a number 2 market... i.e news in LA. didn't really care for TV or film to be honest about it... don't really care for the people
                                  I also have mainstream production history, not with big studios as you, but as an independent. Maybe you could have gaffed some of my movies So, we have some understanding in common

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                                  • ilnjscb
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jun 2009
                                    • 8973

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                    for years I've shot against iphones with my samsung phone because many many models have iphones. iphones produce shit images comparatively. my daughter has a new iphone, she is SO IMPRESSED with the camera because now the images are similar to a samsung, not the newest samsung, just a samsung.

                                    you'll never get DSLR performance out of 'cell phone' lenses however most people can't get DSLR performance out a DSLR and most people can't see the difference between a DSLR and a phone. and if the images are done correctly in post, shooting the proper subject I can't either. most certainly for facebook/twitter pics.

                                    so for 95% of people a phone shoots as good as a DSLR.
                                    Appreciated. I understand the DSLR fairly well, obviously not at your level. As some have stated here, the lenses and accessories available are what can make the difference. I note that ALL the Getty (many of whom just got let go) guys still have DSLR and many have the latest models, so there must be at least $10k worth of value there.

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                                    • Grapesoda
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 46238

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by celandina
                                      I also have mainstream production history, not with big studios as you, but as an independent. Maybe you could have gaffed some of my movies So, we have some understanding in common
                                      yes we do...

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                                      • Grapesoda
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Jul 2003
                                        • 46238

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by ilnjscb
                                        Appreciated. I understand the DSLR fairly well, obviously not at your level. As some have stated here, the lenses and accessories available are what can make the difference. I note that ALL the Getty (many of whom just got let go) guys still have DSLR and many have the latest models, so there must be at least $10k worth of value there.
                                        I hope to get another DSLR, the Nikon D6 with some nice glass, long and short primes and maybe 1 zoom... my fav to shoot is the 'face'. have 'art' stuff in mind and I might shoot some weird 'david lynch' vids with long glass

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                                        • ilnjscb
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jun 2009
                                          • 8973

                                          #21
                                          D6 $6500 for the body, and another fat stack for the team

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