Put Up or Shut The FUCK UP

[Choker]

If you sell traffic I will buy 5k to 200k a day from you on a permament basis. The only catch is that your traffics performance on my site will be public information. http://www.chickenscripts.com/leaders/index.shtml

So for all the traffic brokers it's time to put up or shut up. People are sick and tired of getting ripped off by wanna be traffic brokers. So am I. I buy on average $1500 worth of traffic every single freakin day and waste a ton on brokers who claim thier stuff is hot but it turns out to be total shit. I made this test page so I can keep track of how each brokers traffic does for me so I can make informed decisions on who I should purchase from. But I think it is a good idea to let everyone see it. The traffic brokers selling me traffic now on this page you have the balls to put your money where your mouth is and I respect you for this. If you are scared to be on this list, well, you figure it out.

http://www.chickenscripts.com/leaders/index.shtml

[TheMob]

I wonder how many inquiries you'll be getting..

[psyko514]

Originally posted by TheMob?
I wonder how many inquiries you'll be getting..

Nice sig

BTW, you still looking for design work?

[Choker]

Originally posted by TheMob?
I wonder how many inquiries you'll be getting..

Honestly , I think the brokers that are on the list http://www.chickenscripts.com/leaders/index.shtml now are the only ones that will ever be on it. All the brokers already know about this list. Most are scared shitless to sell me traffic because they know their stuff is shit and so over priced it is pathetic. I am completely unbiased on this. This page reveals the truth and most traffic brokers are afraid of that.

[fnet]

Originally posted by Choker


Honestly , I think the brokers that are on the list http://www.chickenscripts.com/leaders/index.shtml now are the only ones that will ever be on it. All the brokers already know about this list. Most are scared shitless to sell me traffic because they know their stuff is shit and so over priced it is pathetic. I am completely unbiased on this. This page reveals the truth and most traffic brokers are afraid of that.

Now break down how their traffic does against each of the top programs.

If you don't have time to write that, you could also hire someone to... hint hint.

[Adult Site Traffic]

Hey Choker,

Could you plz hit he up a sec on ICQ? I have someone asking about a delivery I could never pull off, especially right now.

Maybe you could, I dunno.

Thx,

Adult Site Traffic 121760557

[Choker]

Originally posted by fnet


Now break down how their traffic does against each of the top programs.

If you don't have time to write that, you could also hire someone to... hint hint.

By top programs I take it you are referring to paysites? This program compares their traffic to each other on how it does on a tgp/cj. Which is what most traffic brokers sell most of their traffic to. But of course a traffic broker will pipe in here that most of his buyers are paysites, not tgps. LOL

[NastyJack]

Good work, it's sure to save us a shit load of money in the future.

[TheMob]

Originally posted by psyko514


Nice sig

BTW, you still looking for design work?

Thanks!

Yep, I'm still looking for design work.. I just sent you an ICQ.. did you get it?

[Hammer]

Hey Choker. Awesome service you're providing. I'm sick of buying shit traffic. I have a question if you don't mind. I've bought traffic from ExitCoin and others and when I check my SexTracker stats I get pretty close to the number of hits they show on their end. I bought some traffic from Adult Site Traffic and my counter doesn't even come close to what they show they're sending. Does that make sense to you. I mean if someone isn't on my site long enough for my java counter to show the hit what good is the traffic?

[fnet]

Originally posted by Choker

By top programs I take it you are referring to paysites? This program compares their traffic to each other on how it does on a tgp/cj. Which is what most traffic brokers sell most of their traffic to. But of course a traffic broker will pipe in here that most of his buyers are paysites, not tgps. LOL

Yeah, I know that level of detail is a little outside of your business- it's just that that's one of the most asked questions on gfy- one of the big reasons all these webmaster sites exist.

Nevermind... it's much better just to write something and show people the value of it than sit around wanking over it on gfy.

[goBigtime]

I was planning on trying Spotbrokers in the future...

Any chance they'll be participating?

[goBigtime]

Choker - I assume this all goes through your standard fraud/proxy/bot checking routines right?

[FlyingIguana]

i sell my gallery pages that i submit. you can buy those ads if you want. cheaper than most traffic brokers out there.

[SpaceAce]

Nice idea, but you need some sort of cumulative stats. One broker might do great for a day or two and then shitty for a day or two and vice-versa. It would be very useful to have something like "Performance over past 60 days" on the list.

SpaceAce

[Rich]

A site judging traffic brokers made by a traffic broker, hmm. Unbiased?

[nuclei]

Rich, actually the idea choker has going is rather good. He doesnt have himself listed in those stats at all. he just has what everyone elses traffic is doing for him. Thats about as unbiased as you can ask for really.

Hammered, the scripts that adult site traffic uses were tested with about 50k hits and by grep'ing the servers access logs for the test domain used, the script was dead on with the numbers by the time we were done with it.

[gruffy]

Originally posted by Rich
A site judging traffic brokers made by a traffic broker, hmm. Unbiased?

send a theif to catch a theif.

[RoTT]

Nice one Choker perfect for checking traffic

[Keev]

good shit choker!!!

I am gonna need to buy traffic on a daily basis shortly...
SOmeone has to stop these thiefs

[Adult Site Traffic]

Originally posted by nuclei
Rich, actually the idea choker has going is rather good. He doesnt have himself listed in those stats at all. he just has what everyone elses traffic is doing for him. Thats about as unbiased as you can ask for really.

Hammered, the scripts that adult site traffic uses were tested with about 50k hits and by grep'ing the servers access logs for the test domain used, the script was dead on with the numbers by the time we were done with it.

Thanks for shedding some light on this Nuc. Sometimes, it gets rather frustrating trying to explain to the 1/20 people the difference between a half page of Java code, compared to the simplicity and accuracy of a CGI counter.

Besides, he came to me, and I gave him an extra 10/k US traffic, on top of a 10/k order, because I was too busy at the time, something I don't normally do. I did it just to make him happy.. help him out a bit.

Choker does have a good thing going. I had meant to ask you if there's a way that perlcoders and phplabs could build me some sort of testing station like this for traffic wholesalers I'm considering bringing on board. This would also allow me to sample any traffic at any given point in time.

If anyone can build a custom setup, it's you guys. I oughta know that ;)

Adult Site Traffic 121760557

[Choker]

Originally posted by The Hammer
Hey Choker. Awesome service you're providing. I'm sick of buying shit traffic. I have a question if you don't mind. I've bought traffic from ExitCoin and others and when I check my SexTracker stats I get pretty close to the number of hits they show on their end. I bought some traffic from Adult Site Traffic and my counter doesn't even come close to what they show they're sending. Does that make sense to you. I mean if someone isn't on my site long enough for my java counter to show the hit what good is the traffic?

Hmm, third party java counters are crap for counting console traffic. The best thing is to make a simple php counting script that the broker sends your traffic to. Have this php count the hit and then redirect it to your site. This is very accurate and what I use to count several types of traffic I buy or sell.

[nuclei]

Originally posted by Choker


Hmm, third party java counters are crap for counting console traffic. The best thing is to make a simple php counting script that the broker sends your traffic to. Have this php count the hit and then redirect it to your site. This is very accurate and what I use to count several types of traffic I buy or sell.

Exactly.

Hammer, if you like we can make you a solid counter that does what choker suggested.
Hell, Ill tell ya what, we help out at the Coders Underground board over at Xbiz, we will make a small, fast MySQL based counter and just post the code there free. Give us over the weekend, as we are slammed with work.

[lil2rich4u2]

gonna be a loooonnngggg night on GFY!

[TrashTalk]

interesting.......

[Groove]

This is a useful resource, many thanks

Will you be adding Chicken Traffic to the list?

[nuclei]

Anyone know anyone who has a server on this IP?

64.94.102.150

Just curious as this IP is hitting KC's servers right now with a very lame ass SYN Flood. KC is already on phone with Internap who owns that ip, but just curious if someone here might know anything.

[Choker]

Originally posted by goBigtime
I was planning on trying Spotbrokers in the future...

Any chance they'll be participating?

Anyone is welcome to participate. I am paying the price the broker asks for on his/her site. And I pay for 100k in advance. Several guys have offered to send the traffic to me for free and I refused. Please do not offer me this, it is appreciated but it's not going to happen. I will pay the same price you charge everyone else. So the only reason any traffic broker would not participate in this, would be if they have something to hide. That's the bottom line and any reason any traffic broker gives for not selling me traffic, is nothing more than a smokescreen.

Choker - I assume this all goes through your standard fraud/proxy/bot checking routines right?

Yes and some new routines we have in beta. I beta all the TTT stuff, we are using some new experimental code one of my Russian friends wrote for me. I wanted code to defeat the new bots, so I went to a guy who knows how to defeat them. If I suspect someone of cheating I will not blast his name over the boards. I will talk to him first and see what is what. Despite my big mouth I don't spend a lot of energy or time chasing cheaters down. I just hit ignore user on icq.

[Extreme John]

Choker,

Simply put your the fucking man bro. Anyone who's known you for a while (which I have) knows you certainly know your shit, and your one of the most honest hard working (well probably slacking now), guys out there.

Just another great idea that helps everyone in the end.

[Backov]

Looks like a good idea. Congrats.

I should point out for completeness that we don't sell the traffic to participate in this test.

And wouldn't anyway. ;>

But anyway, good idea man. Kudos to you.

[Quotealex]

Originally posted by Choker
Anyone is welcome to participate. I am paying the price the broker asks for on his/her site. And I pay for 100k in advance. Several guys have offered to send the traffic to me for free and I refused. Please do not offer me this, it is appreciated but it's not going to happen. I will pay the same price you charge everyone else. So the only reason any traffic broker would not participate in this, would be if they have something to hide. That's the bottom line and any reason any traffic broker gives for not selling me traffic, is nothing more than a smokescreen.

I may be wrong but aren't sending those traffic to CJ sites (call it TGP with no galleries if you want)? if so, maybe that is the reason some traffic brokers don't want to participate. I'm sure you wouldn't sell your traffic to CJ sites (call it TGP with no content if you want)! I'm a traffic broker, but I do think some have valid reasons not to participate...

[Choker]

Originally posted by Alex from Montreal


I may be wrong but aren't sending those traffic to CJ sites (call it TGP with no galleries if you want)? if so, maybe that is the reason some traffic brokers don't want to participate. I'm sure you wouldn't sell your traffic to CJ sites (call it TGP with no content if you want)! I'm a traffic broker, but I do think some have valid reasons not to participate...

If it were a tgp with galleries, then it would accumulate bookmarkers, thus the results would not be accurate. Only idiots would bookmark these sites they send traffic to. Each site is made when the broker is paid and ready to start sending traffic, so what traffic hits the site is his and his only. Each broker has a exact mirror site of his own that he sends traffic too. I probably have the strictest rules of any traffic broker, and I would sell traffic to a site like this. The site does not piss the surfer off, just irritates him a little. I can't imagine any console traffic broker refusing to sell to this site.

[goBigtime]

Originally posted by Backov
Looks like a good idea. Congrats.

I should point out for completeness that we don't sell the traffic to participate in this test.

And wouldn't anyway. ;>

But anyway, good idea man. Kudos to you.

Backov you run SpotBrokers right?

How could it you feel that it's a 'good idea' but yet you wont participate?

I was planning on testing you guys out pretty soon here

And I have to agree with you - I think it is a good idea. It's nice of Choker to actually share these stats with people. Most people who track this sort of information would keep the more productive traffic sources to themselves

[Kick Ass Chat]

Quote
"Anyone is welcome to participate. I am paying the price the broker asks for on his/her site. And I pay for 100k in advance. Several guys have offered to send the traffic to me for free and I refused. Please do not offer me this, it is appreciated but it's not going to happen. I will pay the same price you charge everyone else. So the only reason any traffic broker would not participate in this, would be if they have something to hide. That's the bottom line and any reason any traffic broker gives for not selling me traffic, is nothing more than a smokescreen."


There are MANY other reasons that traffic brokers wouldn't participate in this. Like for example, they think your a joke?? or they make more sending it to their normal buyers, and theres no bennefit to change their existing deals?? Or they don't bring their business to public boards like you like to??....Or who want's to trust their reputation to you on the quality of their deals??
I could go on and on with reasons not to deal with you on this.........YOU may like the Idea, but that doesn't mean everyone does...

The Real players, don't spew shit from their mouths on public boards

[Choker]

You know girlsfreepics every post I ever see of yours you are talking smack to someone, yet nobody knows who you really are. You are just a shithead. Nothing else comes to mind when I read your posts. You are just a shithead. People like you who think they know everything about everything really sicken me.

Lets look at your reply:

1. Like for example, they think your a joke.
If I am a joke or not what the fuck does it matter? I am paying any traffic broker for 100k hits in advance. Business is business, dumbass

2. or they make more sending it to their normal buyers
Didn't I already say I will pay what they charge their normal buyers? again, you are a dumbass

3. Or they don't bring their business to public boards like you like to
Post here asking to buy traffic and watch how many "traffic bokers" post their icq or site url. once again, you are a dumbass

4. I could go on and on with reasons not to deal with you on this
I could go on and on about how you are a punk ass smart ass that thinks he knows everything about everything. I look forward to meeting your punk ass at Internext. I want to see if you can talk the smack to everyones face like you do behind your keyboard here. Punk.

[Adult Site Traffic]

Originally posted by Choker
I can't imagine any console traffic broker refusing to sell to this site.

I can.

I can name (but I won't) 1 or 2 very large wholesalers, who, if their traffic stats (from my experience) were brought public, it would cost them a great deal of lost revenue. Both wholesale as well as retail.

That's why only a few of the many will do it

JMO though.

AST

[Kick Ass Chat]

Originally posted by Choker
You know girlsfreepics every post I ever see of yours you are talking smack to someone, yet nobody knows who you really are. You are just a shithead. Nothing else comes to mind when I read your posts. You are just a shithead. People like you who think they know everything about everything really sicken me.

Lets look at your reply:

1. Like for example, they think your a joke.
If I am a joke or not what the fuck does it matter? I am paying any traffic broker for 100k hits in advance. Business is business, dumbass

2. or they make more sending it to their normal buyers
Didn't I already say I will pay what they charge their normal buyers? again, you are a dumbass

3. Or they don't bring their business to public boards like you like to
Post here asking to buy traffic and watch how many "traffic bokers" post their icq or site url. once again, you are a dumbass

4. I could go on and on with reasons not to deal with you on this
I could go on and on about how you are a punk ass smart ass that thinks he knows everything about everything. I look forward to meeting your punk ass at Internext. I want to see if you can talk the smack to everyones face like you do behind your keyboard here. Punk.

All I did was reply to you completely ignorant comment that
"That's the bottom line and any reason any traffic broker gives for not selling me traffic, is nothing more than a smokescreen"


Your the shit starter (posting comments like that !!!),
and Punk.....
Also I have gone to every Internext show for 3 years now, I think it is you that doesnt attend. But if you think for 1 second (based on you above threat) that I get physical and fight about message board comments you are very mistaken. I also do not talk "smack" to anyone, I give my opinions like everyone else does, and if you don't like it or cant take it, I couldn't really care.

[Kick Ass Chat]

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic


I can.

I can name (but I won't) 1 or 2 very large wholesalers, who, if their traffic stats (from my experience) were brought public, it would cost them a great deal of lost revenue. Both wholesale as well as retail.

That's why only a few of the many will do it

JMO though.

AST

Well said, That is my point also..... Their are MANY big players that would Never make their businesses public....

[Choker]

Originally posted by GirlsFreePics


Well said, That is my point also..... Their are MANY big players that would Never make their businesses public....

Ummm Sherlock, I think his point is that many guys will not do this because their traffic is shit and they don't want everyone to know. But you know it all don't you?

I never said anything about getting physical, I will be in Hollywood in August, and yes you do talk smack about everything and everyone, you think you know it all. Like I said, you are nothing more than a punk. Your "opinions" are always negative and you always put other people down and talk about shit you know nothing about but think you do. Punk

[Adult Site Traffic]

Originally posted by GirlsFreePics


Well said, That is my point also..... Their are MANY big players that would Never make their businesses public....

You don't have a point

My point is.. I just bought a nice little block to test, from a large wholesaler. I tested it on a friend's TGP. My friend told me to stop, and I couldn't even give him the balance for free.

Yea, they have a valid reason, LOL

AST

[Theo]

I like it, good job.

[Kick Ass Chat]

Originally posted by Choker


Ummm Sherlock, I think his point is that many guys will not do this because their traffic is shit and they don't want everyone to know. But you know it all don't you?

I never said anything about getting physical, I will be in Hollywood in August, and yes you do talk smack about everything and everyone, you think you know it all. Like I said, you are nothing more than a punk. Your "opinions" are always negative and you always put other people down and talk about shit you know nothing about but think you do. Punk

I never said people won't participate because their traffic was good or bad in quality. I just said they don't make their business public.... Nothing more, and nothing less.

Why do you always feel the need to use names like "Punk" ??? can't you ever be professional without resorting to name calling??? You also have NO clue nor will you ever know about what I do and the businesses I run.

[Backov]

Originally posted by goBigtime



Backov you run SpotBrokers right?

How could it you feel that it's a 'good idea' but yet you wont participate?

I was planning on testing you guys out pretty soon here

Please do so. I said it in the part you quoted, and I'll say it again - we don't sell this traffic. Therefore we can't participate. If we sold exit traffic, or forced blind or however this is being delivered, we could participate. As it is, we can't.

Neither of our programs are a match for this.

[psyko514]

Originally posted by GirlsFreePics
Why do you always feel the need to use names like "Punk" ??? can't you ever be professional without resorting to name calling???

Hey asswipe. The first thing you did in this thread was call him a joke and say that he spews shit from his mouth. Very professional

[MetaMan]

Originally posted by TheMob?


Thanks!

Yep, I'm still looking for design work.. I just sent you an ICQ.. did you get it?

calgary rules,
the rest of canada smells like old ppl, indian, or french.

[psyko514]

Originally posted by MetaMan


calgary rules,
the rest of canada smells like old ppl, indian, or french.

it's a script, genius.

[Kick Ass Chat]

Originally posted by psyko514


Hey asswipe. The first thing you did in this thread was call him a joke and say that he spews shit from his mouth. Very professional

Read again I said that 1 of the reasons that some people may not want to send him traffic is that They may think he is a joke. I never said that was my opinion!!!! Then I also said "The Real players, don't spew shit from their mouths on public boards"

That was nothing about choker, that simply states that "The Real players, don't spew shit from their mouths on public boards"


So I suggest you learn reading comprehension before you say people said things that they did not say, You "asswipe"

[psyko514]

Originally posted by GirlsFreePics


Read again I said that 1 of the reasons that some people may not want to send him traffic is that They may think he is a joke. I never said that was my opinion!!!! Then I also said "The Real players, don't spew shit from their mouths on public boards"

That was nothing about choker, that simply states that "The Real players, don't spew shit from their mouths on public boards"


So I suggest you learn reading comprehension before you say people said things that they did not say, You "asswipe"

I'm sorry, asswipe. You implied he was a joke and spewed shit from his mouth.

[Kick Ass Chat]

Originally posted by psyko514


I'm sorry, asswipe. You implied he was a joke and spewed shit from his mouth.

Once again, NO I did Not !!!!!.....I said
"The Real players, don't spew shit from their mouths on public boards"....... And
"THEY" may think he is a joke

None of those statements imply that is my opinion at all....

[Groove]

Originally posted by GirlsFreePics


Once again, NO I did Not !!!!!.....I said
"The Real players, don't spew shit from their mouths on public boards"....... And
"THEY" may think he is a joke

None of those statements imply that is my opinion at all....