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  • Forest
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    • Aug 2001
    • 9135
    #1

    If you could Expat Anywhere in the world as an American where would it be?

    May be time to leave. Always considered another country.

    Family of 4 wife and kids speak Spanish.

    I’m thinking Panama, Costa Rica, Belize and Italy ( if Italy ever recovers)

    Anyone have any thoughts?
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    • King Mark
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      • Aug 2016
      • 27033
      #2
      I would never leave America unless I had to. Everything I love is here. I could stay here and feel like I left the country.

      But if I had to, I'm going to southwest Canada. Victoria preferably.

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        • escorpio
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          • Oct 2002
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            • Forest
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              • Aug 2001
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              #4
              Originally posted by King Mark
              I would never leave America unless I had to. Everything I love is here. I could stay here and feel like I left the country.

              But if I had to, I'm going to southwest Canada. Victoria preferably.
              Trust me it’s not a decision I take lightly. I’m an American thru and thru and not sure how i would fair in a new culture without my creature comforts of home.

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                • fuzebox
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                  • Oct 2003
                  • 22351
                  #5
                  Costa Rica hasn't been a good expat destination for 10 years

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                    • NALEM
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                      #6
                      The questions I would ask of you, what are you looking to accomplish out of a move to another country. Define what qualities in life and or business are most important to you and your family. How is your health? Do you have a solid flow of income coming in regularly? Will you need a new source of income when you move? Will it be earned online or via a brick and mortar type business. How important is it for you to retain your current citizenship? Is traveling Visa free important to you?
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                        • RandyRandy
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                          • Jul 2012
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                          #7
                          I've lived and work on 4 different continents.

                          For you, with speaking Spanish, your choices are:

                          1. Colombia - Love Bogota, love Medellin. And there's way more than that. Depends if you like the city, what weather you like - so many choices.
                          2. Panama would be the other end of the spectrum. They use the dollar, huge US influence. Easy enough to get citizenship thru investment. Population 4 million - very manageable.
                          3. In between those two choices is Ecuador. They use the dollar but don't like Americans. I really like Guayaquil!

                          I wouldn't recommend Costa Rica...

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                            • Klen
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 32235
                              #8
                              Why there is no Spain in your choice list ?

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                                • CaptainHowdy
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                                  • Dec 2004
                                  • 94727
                                  #9
                                  Wait until the pandemia pans out . . .

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                                    • Grapesoda
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                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 46238
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Forest
                                      May be time to leave. Always considered another country.

                                      Family of 4 wife and kids speak Spanish.

                                      I’m thinking Panama, Costa Rica, Belize and Italy ( if Italy ever recovers)

                                      Anyone have any thoughts?
                                      plenty of states with lower cost of living

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                                        • ilnjscb
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                                          • Jun 2009
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                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by fuzebox
                                          Costa Rica hasn't been a good expat destination for 10 years
                                          Costa Rica is has been, but it has some good stuff

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                                            • MaDalton
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                                              • Feb 2004
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                                              #12
                                              Being an expat myself one thing I can highly recommend is: Go to whatever place something like 3 months first and try to live a normal daily life there.

                                              Too many people who decide after a 2 week vacation with beach, drinks and eating out every day "this is a place where I want to stay forever"

                                              and then they move and then reality hits them
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                                                • digitalfantasies
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                                                  #13
                                                  Too little information to give any advice, what is it your looking for, investing, relaxing, partying, reduction in living cost, retiring, in need of job? what climate, so many more choices than listed here.

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                                                    • klinton
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                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                      • 8766
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Forest
                                                      May be time to leave. Always considered another country.

                                                      Family of 4 wife and kids speak Spanish.

                                                      I’m thinking Panama, Costa Rica, Belize and Italy ( if Italy ever recovers)

                                                      Anyone have any thoughts?
                                                      I know many places on 4 continents.... Depends on your needs,setup and money.

                                                      Italy is nice for holiday.

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                                                        • fuzebox
                                                          making it rain
                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                          • 22351
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                          Being an expat myself one thing I can highly recommend is: Go to whatever place something like 3 months first and try to live a normal daily life there.

                                                          Too many people who decide after a 2 week vacation with beach, drinks and eating out every day "this is a place where I want to stay forever"

                                                          and then they move and then reality hits them
                                                          Excellent advice

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                                                            • Brit in Cambodia
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                                                              • Nov 2019
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                                                              #16
                                                              If you're doing it to flee the pandemic then don't there is real fear brewing about this virus and thanks to china this is being directed at westerners.

                                                              if you're in a backwards part of the world and someone gets sick you will be blamed.

                                                              leave this a year or 2 let things cools off

                                                              its a fucking recession if you're not one of the plebs you should be working all hours of the day and banking hard.

                                                              recessions always bring extreme wealth creation oppertunities.

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                                                                • Forest
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                  plenty of states with lower cost of living
                                                                  Not about cost of living honestly. I live in a very nice area of Vegas.

                                                                  It’s more about the direction this country is heading and where my family can live our best lives.

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                                                                    • Forest
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                      Being an expat myself one thing I can highly recommend is: Go to whatever place something like 3 months first and try to live a normal daily life there.

                                                                      Too many people who decide after a 2 week vacation with beach, drinks and eating out every day "this is a place where I want to stay forever"

                                                                      and then they move and then reality hits them
                                                                      Yeah that’s the plan for sure. I’ll rent houses in a few different spots for 3-6 months so I really see what it’s like

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                                                                        • Forest
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Brit in Cambodia
                                                                          If you're doing it to flee the pandemic then don't there is real fear brewing about this virus and thanks to china this is being directed at westerners.

                                                                          if you're in a backwards part of the world and someone gets sick you will be blamed.

                                                                          leave this a year or 2 let things cools off

                                                                          its a fucking recession if you're not one of the plebs you should be working all hours of the day and banking hard.

                                                                          recessions always bring extreme wealth creation oppertunities.
                                                                          Nahh the pandemic is everywhere. There is no escaping that. I moved most all my investments to cash today so when this market crashes more I’m safe

                                                                          The USA has been going down hill for the last few years. The clusterfuck that is currently going on here just has me weighing my options. Next 12-18 months I may be able to pick up some deals in real estate .

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                                                                            • Klen
                                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                                              • 32235
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                              Being an expat myself one thing I can highly recommend is: Go to whatever place something like 3 months first and try to live a normal daily life there.

                                                                              Too many people who decide after a 2 week vacation with beach, drinks and eating out every day "this is a place where I want to stay forever"

                                                                              and then they move and then reality hits them

                                                                              Well, i decided moving to Prague when i been there for first time, and that was year 2009. And i was there only for 5 days lol

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                                                                                • Brian mike
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                                                                                  • Oct 2014
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by King Mark
                                                                                  But if I had to, I'm going to southwest Canada. Victoria preferably.
                                                                                  Vancouver is better IMHO. The problem i have with Victoria is your stuck on the island no mather what 9pm till 7am NO ferries https://www.bcferries.com/m/schedule...h03161701.html ! Also the cost of the ferries is another expensive story lol.

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                                                                                    • shimmy2
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                                                                                        • Brit in Cambodia
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Forest
                                                                                          Nahh the pandemic is everywhere. There is no escaping that. I moved most all my investments to cash today so when this market crashes more I’m safe

                                                                                          The USA has been going down hill for the last few years. The clusterfuck that is currently going on here just has me weighing my options. Next 12-18 months I may be able to pick up some deals in real estate .
                                                                                          Because of the loony left? or because of the media tosh about Trump?

                                                                                          The left have no chance of getting into power look what happened to bernie if was beaten by a guy who will get diagnosed with dementia in the coming year. Trump is a loudmouth and a bit brash but he's no danger to the US.

                                                                                          The world will change after this, but you and your family are safer in the US then you are in South America.

                                                                                          As someone whos lived in more third-world countries than I can count on one hand I can tell you you will miss 'that things just work' in the west.
                                                                                          I'm back in England now (pandemic and business reasons). The holiday period will wear off after a month or two in any country.

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                                                                                            • Grapesoda
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                                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                                              • 46238
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                              Being an expat myself one thing I can highly recommend is: Go to whatever place something like 3 months first and try to live a normal daily life there.

                                                                                              Too many people who decide after a 2 week vacation with beach, drinks and eating out every day "this is a place where I want to stay forever"

                                                                                              and then they move and then reality hits them
                                                                                              serious question: why do you prefer czech over the father land?

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                                                                                                • Grapesoda
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                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                  • 46238
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Forest
                                                                                                  Not about cost of living honestly. I live in a very nice area of Vegas.

                                                                                                  It’s more about the direction this country is heading and where my family can live our best lives.
                                                                                                  rural areas of the states be best

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                                                                                                    • Hinc
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      I have been an expat in 4 different countries ... and id certainly recommend Spain - very friendly and welcoming, nice weather, rich cultural life and beautiful babes everywhere

                                                                                                      Secondarily Cyprus is an excellent place...English is spoken fluently by all, taxes are extremely low, its hoooot and the beaches are great ....
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                                                                                                        • digitalfantasies
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Brit in Cambodia
                                                                                                          As someone whos lived in more third-world countries than I can count on one hand I can tell you you will miss 'that things just work' in the west.
                                                                                                          I'm back in England now (pandemic and business reasons). The holiday period will wear off after a month or two in any country.
                                                                                                          Nah how things "just work" in the west is the reason I left. And I know many feel the same.
                                                                                                          Also you're a lot safer in many places in south America comared to many places in the US and vice versa.
                                                                                                          My holiday period hasn't worn of after 10 years.

                                                                                                          But it's a more difficult decision to make when you have a family and kids I guess

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                                                                                                            • EddyTheDog
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                                                                                                              • Jan 2011
                                                                                                              • 25433
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Australia and New Zealand are real options if you are financially sound - I'm sort of an Ex-Pat in New Zealand - I couldn't rate it any higher...

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                                                                                                                • mce
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                                                                                                                    • ilnjscb
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by mce
                                                                                                                      Somewhere where the taxes are low and people are FREE
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                                                                                                                          The Alps, far away from people..

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                                                                                                                            • The Porn Nerd
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                                                                                                                              • Jun 2009
                                                                                                                              • 19784
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Klen
                                                                                                                              Why there is no Spain in your choice list ?
                                                                                                                              Because, like Italy, Spain is a shithole.

                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Klen
                                                                                                                              Well, i decided moving to Prague when i been there for first time, and that was year 2009. And i was there only for 5 days lol
                                                                                                                              Haha I almost did the same thing but it was in 2010.

                                                                                                                              Prague would be my #2.
                                                                                                                              Amsterdam is #1.
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Canada would be the only choice I would make based on my limited visits to other countries.

                                                                                                                                  I like the European countries I've been to; but it doesn't "seem" realistic for me to live there.
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                                                                                                                                    • digitalfantasies
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Amsterdam? really, it's worse than the worst touristic places in spain and they are baaad and I felt safer in Venezuela Caracas. TO each his own I guess

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                                                                                                                                        • Naughty
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          From what I have heard, Belize is pretty good.
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                                                                                                                                            • GAMEFINEST
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Forest: How is Vegas? You recommend staying there long term if you werent thinking about moving? ?
                                                                                                                                              Compound interest.

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                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
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                                                                                                                                                    • sarettah
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                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 14293
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Forest
                                                                                                                                                      May be time to leave. Always considered another country.

                                                                                                                                                      Family of 4 wife and kids speak Spanish.

                                                                                                                                                      I’m thinking Panama, Costa Rica, Belize and Italy ( if Italy ever recovers)

                                                                                                                                                      Anyone have any thoughts?
                                                                                                                                                      Dude, you know where to go. Technically not out of the country but almost. I think it is your favorite place, I know it is one of my top 2.

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                                                                                                                                                        • fuzebox
                                                                                                                                                          making it rain
                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 22351
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by GAMEFINEST
                                                                                                                                                          Forest: How is Vegas? You recommend staying there long term if you werent thinking about moving? ?
                                                                                                                                                          One of my favorite US cities to live in

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                                                                                                                                                            • lock
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                                                                                                                                                                • Yanks_Todd
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by RandyRandy
                                                                                                                                                                  I've lived and work on 4 different continents.

                                                                                                                                                                  For you, with speaking Spanish, your choices are:

                                                                                                                                                                  1. Colombia - Love Bogota, love Medellin. And there's way more than that. Depends if you like the city, what weather you like - so many choices.
                                                                                                                                                                  2. Panama would be the other end of the spectrum. They use the dollar, huge US influence. Easy enough to get citizenship thru investment. Population 4 million - very manageable.
                                                                                                                                                                  3. In between those two choices is Ecuador. They use the dollar but don't like Americans. I really like Guayaquil!

                                                                                                                                                                  I wouldn't recommend Costa Rica...
                                                                                                                                                                  and errr...Spain
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                                                                                                                                                                    • _Richard_
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by King Mark
                                                                                                                                                                      I would never leave America unless I had to. Everything I love is here. I could stay here and feel like I left the country.

                                                                                                                                                                      But if I had to, I'm going to southwest Canada. Victoria preferably.
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                                                                                                                                                                        • RandyRandy
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Yanks_Todd
                                                                                                                                                                          and errr...Spain

                                                                                                                                                                          Spain is great. Of course Barcelona is fantastic but I love Zaragoza. Not sure how easy it is for a family to legally emigrate to Spain/EU...

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                                                                                                                                                                            • BaldBastard
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Every country is going to be a different place after this pandemic some will be affected much more than others.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Klen
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by RandyRandy
                                                                                                                                                                                  Spain is great. Of course Barcelona is fantastic but I love Zaragoza. Not sure how easy it is for a family to legally emigrate to Spain/EU...
                                                                                                                                                                                  It's very easy if you use company which is specialized for visa things.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • INever
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Forest
                                                                                                                                                                                      Trust me it’s not a decision I take lightly. I’m an American thru and thru and not sure how i would fair in a new culture without my creature comforts of home.
                                                                                                                                                                                      Starbucks? Internet? Bagels? Hoagies?

                                                                                                                                                                                      Most creature comforts are all over the world these days.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • pornguy
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                                                                                                                              Being an expat myself one thing I can highly recommend is: Go to whatever place something like 3 months first and try to live a normal daily life there.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Too many people who decide after a 2 week vacation with beach, drinks and eating out every day "this is a place where I want to stay forever"

                                                                                                                                                                                              and then they move and then reality hits them
                                                                                                                                                                                              this is the best advice.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Seen this a million times myself. I live about 80% of the year in Cancun Mexico. We have a house here.

                                                                                                                                                                                              If you can not earn money online or have a good retirement dont leave.

                                                                                                                                                                                              with the amazing exchange right now for Cancun, to be my neighbor renting is about 1500 to 2500 dollars on average. We live in an upscale area and everything is within walking distance. We are 1.4 KM to the water as the crow flies. 20 to 25 min driving.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Schools are not cheap if you need them.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Cars are basically the same price. Public transportation is here but it sucks and a taxi gets expensive. ( You can import your car )
                                                                                                                                                                                              Gas is almost 2 times the price.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Grapesoda
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 46238
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by CyberSEO




                                                                                                                                                                                                  how are the cost? the rent in a nice safe area? food cost? I'm gonna stay in the US, just curious

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • The Porn Nerd
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Right about now it would be the North Pole away from everyone.
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